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		<title>Read Between The Lines: &#8220;Jesus Can&#8217;t Save You, Life Starts When The Church Ends&#8221;- Jay-Z</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 22:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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good girls gone bad, the city&#8217;s filled with them,
Mommy took a bus trip and now she got her bust out,
everybody ride her, just like a bus route,
Hail Mary to the city your a Virgin,
and Jesus can’t save you life starts when the church ends,
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<blockquote><p>good girls gone bad, the city&#8217;s filled with them,<br />
Mommy took a bus trip and now she got her bust out,<br />
everybody ride her, just like a bus route,<br />
Hail Mary to the city your a Virgin,<br />
and Jesus can’t save you life starts when the church ends,<br />
-Jay-Z</p></blockquote>
<p>I don&#8217;t see it as a diss to Jesus at all. If you read the lines before that line, it seems as he is saying you can&#8217;t be a whore all week and go to Church on Sunday to save you. You can&#8217;t just be innocent in Church and be sinning all week after that. How do you interpret Jay-Z&#8217;s line that has caused a lot of controversy? </p>
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		<title>Change Has Come, Now History is Ours: Jay-Z, Obama, and the Hip-Hop Community&#8217;s Next Movement</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Michael Partis</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Editorial By Michael Partis
What is Hov talking about on his new track &#8220;History&#8221; ?  Is it about more than &#8220;History&#8221; and &#8220;Victory?&#8221;
There is always the tendency to feel as if we are thinking too much; that we are taking it too far.  It becomes a feeling we have when looking at all forms of art: [...]]]></description>
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<p>What is Hov talking about on his new track &#8220;History&#8221; ?  Is it about more than &#8220;History&#8221; and &#8220;Victory?&#8221;</p>
<p>There is always the tendency to feel as if we are thinking too much; that we are taking it too far.  It becomes a feeling we have when looking at all forms of art: music, paintings, poetry, dance, etc.</p>
<p>But the great artist is the one that legitimates our search for something more.  They make you see further, think longer, listen closer&#8212;they make you believe there is meaning to their work; beyond the surface; beyond the first encounter; beyond the first layer.</p>
<p><a href="http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/artists/jay-z/jay-z-history-cdq/" target=" ">Jay-Z &#8211; History</a><br />
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<p>This ability is what makes Jay-Z one of the greatest rappers in Hip-Hop history: because his music makes us listen beyond the obvious.</p>
<p><strong>&#8220;Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?&#8221; Jay-Z-&#8221;Renegade&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>In his new song entitled &#8220;History&#8221; Hov chronicles the search for &#8220;Victory.&#8221;  The &#8220;Victory&#8221; though is spoken of in a context that, if captured, would become &#8220;History.&#8221;  There is a historical element to the win he seeks.</p>
<p>The lyrics are filled with personification and symbolism.  &#8220;Defeat,&#8221; &#8220;Death,&#8221; and &#8220;Success&#8221; are people that you encounter on the journey to meet  &#8220;Victory&#8221; and  &#8220;History.&#8221;  When listened to closely it feels as if every adjective, every noun, every word could be understood in more than one way; that it could mean more than how we normally use it.  Every usage of &#8220;agony&#8221; or &#8220;dreams&#8221; seems like&#8230; feels like&#8230; it could mean more than what it appears to be.</p>
<p>So what <em>does</em> it mean?  That is our job as listeners, to form an understanding of the message.</p>
<p>Given the recent events, and the timing of the leak, the song seems to be a strong metaphor for the election of Barack Obama and the journey that the Black community has traveled to reach this achievement.</p>
<p>We can easily see how the &#8220;Victory&#8221; being sought is equal to Obama&#8217;s winning the 2008 Election.  And that with this &#8220;Victory&#8221; accomplished history is made: the first Black person to become President of the United States of America.</p>
<p>By no means was this journey easy.  &#8220;Defeat&#8221; and &#8220;Success&#8221; certainly exemplify the bitter, and the sweet, of the African-American experience.</p>
<p>The defeats have been trying, hurtful, and protracted: whether they be the failed Presidential campaigns of Black politicians like Shirley Chisholm or Jesse Jackson; the assassinations of Malcolm X, Dr. Martin Luther King, or other Black leaders; or the longer legislative battles to eliminate racist laws, end race-based discrimination, and obtain civil rights.  It is an inescapable pain that accompanies Black life in America.</p>
<p><span class="bodyMaal"><span style="black;"> &#8220;<em>her name is Defeat<br />
She give me agony, so much agony<br />
She bring me so much pain so much misery<br />
Like missing ya last shot, and falling to ya knees<br />
As the crowd screams, for the other team</em>&#8220;</span></span></p>
<p>The successes have been fulfilling, joyful, and tantalizing: the largest Black middle-class in American history; breakthroughs in fields, careers, and positions that barred Blacks for so long; more Blacks with access to higher education.</p>
<p>The beauty of Jay&#8217;s message is that yes success is certainly better than defeat, and definitely a gain in the struggle.  But success lacks longevity.  It is not a victory, but only a gain.  And while gains are historic in nature, victory is the end goal&#8212;victory is that which cannot be taken away, and so it lives in history forever:</p>
<p><span class="bodyMaal"><span style="black;">&#8220;<em>Ain&#8217;t in it for the fame, that dies within weeks<br />
Ain&#8217;t in it for the money, cant take it when you leave<br />
I wanna be remembered, long after you breathe<br />
Long after I&#8217;m gone, long after i breathe<br />
I leave all i am, in the hands of History<br />
That&#8217;s my last will, testimony</em>&#8220;</span></span></p>
<p><strong>But is Obama&#8217;s win<span style="black;"> &#8220;Victory?&#8221;</span></strong></p>
<p>Jay speaks of &#8220;Victory&#8221; as if it is in a relationship with &#8220;History;&#8221; they work together, to create something new:  &#8220;<em><span class="bodyMaal"><span style="black;">Now Victory is mine, tastes so sweet/ She&#8217;s my trophy wife, coming with me/ We&#8217;ll have a baby, who stutters repeatedly/ We&#8217;ll name him History, he&#8217;ll repeat after me/ He&#8217;s my legacy, son of my hard work/ Future of my past, he&#8217;ll explain who I be&#8230;</span></span></em><span class="bodyMaal"><span style="black;"><em>This is much more than a song, its a baby shower</em>&#8220;</span></span></p>
<p>In using the metaphor of marriage and birth, we can understand that victory creates history but also create something new&#8212;something that continues through time.  The birth of something new allows for the potential for remembrance, for legacy, but most importantly&#8230;to <em>continue</em>.</p>
<p>The 1st Black President of the United States is a tremendous victory of historic proportions that fulfills something many thought could never happen.  It is victory because it can <strong>never</strong> be taken away.  But it is not &#8220;Victory,&#8221;  because the final victory has yet to be won.</p>
<p>There is still an economic inequality pervasively present along racial lines.  There is still a criminal justice system that disproportionately incarcerates Blacks, Latinos, and people of color at exceedingly higher rates.  Where&#8217;s fuller life for the victims of Hurricane Katrina?  How can we help the under-told story of  those heavily hit by Hurricane Ike?  How can we fix the outrageous number of failing schools in Detroit, Atlanta, and cities across the U.S.?  How the hell we will deal with the growing magnitude of the ever-growing current economic crisis?</p>
<p>We can look across the African Diaspora and see problems as well: in Puerto Rico, The Congo, Sudan, South African, Haiti&#8212;as a nation with a large immigrant population, and a huge global influence (as problematic as that is), these are things we can not take lightly.  They absolutely affect us.</p>
<p>Liberation; equality; justice; that is the &#8220;Victory&#8221; we must seek.</p>
<p>The remarkable power of Barack Obama&#8217;s election to the highest office in the world, is that it fills us with the strength, belief, and joy that <strong>change</strong> <em>is possible</em>.  Despite all the problems named above,  Obama&#8217;s victory symbolized that we <strong>can</strong> do better.  It drives you to say, &#8220;<strong>Yes We Can</strong>.&#8221;</p>
<p>Obama has often spoken about and built his campaign around this generation of hope, belief, and possibility.   He&#8217;s calls us the &#8220;Joshua Generation:&#8221;</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://www.barackobama.com/2007/03/04/selma_voting_rights_march_comm.php" target="_blank">&#8220;Moses told the <span class="nfakPe">Joshua</span> <span class="nfakPe">generation</span>; don&#8217;t forget where you came from. I worry sometimes, that the <span class="nfakPe">Joshua </span><span class="nfakPe">generation</span> in its <em>success</em> forgets where it came from. Thinks it doesn&#8217;t have to make as many sacrifices. Thinks that the very height of ambition is to make as much money as you can, to drive the biggest car and have the biggest house and wear a Rolex watch and get your own private jet, get some of that Oprah money. And I think that&#8217;s a good thing. There&#8217;s nothing wrong with making money, but if you know your <em>history</em>, then you know that there is a certain poverty of ambition involved in simply striving just for money. Materialism alone will not fulfill the possibilities of your existence. You have to fill that with something else. You have to fill it with the golden rule. You&#8217;ve got to fill it with thinking about others. And if we know our <em>history</em>, then we will understand that that is the highest mark of service&#8230;&#8221;</a></strong></p>
<p>Jay-Z&#8217;s greatest is that he could convey the ideas of one of the greatest politicians in history using Hip-Hop&#8217;s voice.  He poetically, skillfully, and thoughtfully has depicted the same message in a way that only Hip-Hop could; through Hip-Hop music.  It is indicative of the power within this Hip-Hop community to seize this moment and turn it into<em> our</em> moment of history.</p>
<p>And just as Barack has fulfilled, and as Jay-Z has expressed, the Hip-Hop community and people from all over the world have been sharing what this moment means to them; to our history; and to our future.  <a href="www.colorofchange.org" target="_blank">ColorOfChange.org</a> has been gathering these stories since Election Night.  The most poignant, and the strongest, came from Bronx rapper <a href="http://cattyworld.ning.com/" target="_blank">CATALYST</a>:</p>
<p><a href="http://stories.colorofchange.org/?zip=10459" target="_blank">&#8220;Martin&#8217;s Dream is now Reality, Malcolm&#8217;s By any means Came through Democracy, Rosa&#8217;s Bravery showed a Young African American that he could also Sit where ever he wanted to including the White House. Medgar Evers, Harriett Tubman, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Gandhi, Steven Biko, Frederick Douglas, and the Countless others that fought for Equality, Justice, Freedom, and Human Rights can rest easy knowing that what they all fought for was worth every sacrifice because in the end the reward was a divine Victory.&#8221;</a></p>
<p>What a political figure like Barack Obama expressed in speech; what a world-renowned artist like Jay-Z expressed in music; was just as articulately, just as knowledgeably, and just as eloquently shared by a little-known rapper from the Bronx.</p>
<p>That is our power.  That is why we must seize this moment.</p>
<p><a href="www.michaelpartis.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Michael Partis</a></p>
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		<title>Read Between The Lines: Swagga Like Puff Throwing Jabs @ Jay-Z</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Sep 2008 17:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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I noticed some interesting lines in Diddy&#8217;s, &#8220;Swagga Like Puff,&#8221; that can be interpreted as a jab. Hip Hop is full of egos and subliminal lines, so are these lines just coincidental or a light jab to Jay-Z?
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<p>I noticed some interesting lines in Diddy&#8217;s, &#8220;<a href="http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/09/topic/artists/diddy/diddy-blog-20-version-2-no-one-on-da-corner-got-swagga-like-puff/">Swagga Like Puff</a>,&#8221; that can be interpreted as a jab. Hip Hop is full of egos and subliminal lines, so are these lines just coincidental or a light jab to Jay-Z?</p>
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		<title>Read Between The Lines: Lil Wayne &#8211; I Feel Like Dying</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 19:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am sittin on the clouds
I got smoke coming from my seats
I can play basketball with the moon
I got the whole world at my feet
Playin’ touch football on Marijuana Street
Or in a marijuana field, you are so beneath my cleats
Get high, so high that I feel like lying
Down in a cigar, roll me up &#038; [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am sittin on the clouds<br />
I got smoke coming from my seats<br />
I can play basketball with the moon<br />
I got the whole world at my feet<br />
Playin’ touch football on Marijuana Street<br />
Or in a marijuana field, you are so beneath my cleats<br />
Get high, so high that I feel like lying<br />
Down in a cigar, roll me up &#038; smoke me cuz</p>
<p>Swimming laps around a bottle of Louie The 13th<br />
Jumping off of a mountain into a sea of Codine<br />
I’m at the top of the top but still I climb<br />
[ Dying lyrics found on http://www.completealbumlyrics.com ]<br />
And if I shall ever fall the ground will then turn to wine<br />
Pop, Pop, I feel like flying, then I feel like frying, then<br />
(I feel like dying)</p>
<p>I can mingle with the stars &#038; throw a party on Mars<br />
I am a prisoner locked up behind Xanax bars<br />
I have just boarded a plane without a pilot<br />
And violets are blue, roses are red<br />
Daisies are yellow, the flowers are dead<br />
Wish I can give you this feeling<br />
I feel like buying<br />
And if my dealer don’t have no more, then<br />
(I feel like dying)<br />
<a href="http://www.completealbumlyrics.com/lyric/131452/Lil+Wayne+-+Dying.html">Source</a>
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<p>Is this abstract rap, or a piece of crap? Some people say the lyrics are mad deep and they listen to it when they are high. Others have said Lil Wayne is just bugging out on this track. What thoughts do you have on this track?</p>
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		<title>Read Between The Lines: I Respect the Shooter- Jay-Z</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m from the era where niggaz don&#8217;t snitch You from the era where snitchin&#8217; is the shit I&#8217;m afraid of the future (why?) Y&#8217;all respect the one who got shot, I respect the shooter

I don&#8217;t know, ever since I heard this line it rubbed me the wrong way.&#160;I made a little comment about in the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I&#8217;m from the era where niggaz don&#8217;t snitch <br />You from the era where snitchin&#8217; is the shit <br />I&#8217;m afraid of the future (why?) <br /><strong>Y&#8217;all respect the one who got shot, <br />I respect the shooter</strong></p>
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<p>I don&#8217;t know, ever since I heard this line it rubbed me the wrong way.&nbsp;I made a little comment about in the VA post but decided to edit it out. I&#8217;m not stupid, I know what Jay-Z is saying but I don&#8217;t like the message. If it was meant to diss 50/Camron or not, I can&#8217;t cosign saying you respect the shooters. To me shooters shouldn&#8217;t be respected. Why respect someone that takes deadly force on someone usually unarmed. There is no honor in settling a dispute with gun play. Jay-Z needs to realize a lot of kids out there listen to his words, and will take things out of context. What opinions do you guys have?</p>
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<p>Also this is a new thing I will be doing, if you guys got lyrics that stand out to you, email them to me and I might post it up.</p>
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