Red Cafe, Joe Budden & Fabolous hit up Angie Martinez’ BBQ this weekend. How would you rank these three in terms of rap skills?
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1. Joe Budden
2. Fabolous
3. Red Cafe
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slow news day? we all know red cafe isnt on they level…n joe budden & fab is a toss up…2 different styles
a Sunday night..why not?
1.joe
2.fab
3.red cafe garbage
I aint mad at ya…love the site my favorite hip hop site by the way
thanks sir. Anything you would like to see more/less of on the site?
1.joey
2.fabo
3.just another rapper
I remember a couple years ago u had an interview with producer Boi1da which was really inspring…more interviews like that would be great
HELL NO
1. Fab
2. who cares
3. who cares
Fab is underrated
Lyrics alone, Joey wins but I can dig all three.
Off topic though I’m loving that slaughterhouse tape.
1) Joe Budden a Poet
2) Fabolous a MC
3) Red Cafe a Rapper
if it was fab 4 years ago it would be a toss up but given that its not …… and red cafe doen’t even count .
1.joey
2.fab
joe
fab
cafe
1. Joey
2. Fab
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9001. Red Cafe
real talk joe is all internet hype, fab shits on him so easily is funny , red cafe is way over hyped and will most likely never but out a decent album if a album at all
1.joe
99.fab
100.ME
BiggieSons
Joe
Red Cafe
Mario
sorry meant Fabolous, Fabolous is hot garbage and makes more R&B than Drake fake ass nigga make a decent album Fabolous you R&B queen
and lol at this even being up for debate check out every song fabolous & Joe has done Joe has smoked him on every single one
cmon why you all hatin on cafe?he makes good music
and fab can´t be ranked worst than joe…realtalk
well this is interesting. Joe is a more lyrical rapper than the two but Fab is more experienced ( lyrical wise) than the two. Red Cafe is like the new rappers who talk about pussy, guns and ass but he can organise his verse and kill you. The problem with fab and red cafe is that they don’t have good voices ( no homo) and sometimes their lyrics are not that effective. I f you are a real rap fan, you know fab doe not compare with these two.
In terms of mc’s
1.Fab
2. Joe
3. Red
In terms fo lyrical ability
1.joe
2.Fab
3.red cafe
1. Joe
I won’t even write the names of the other two clowns.
yall niggas is some lames for real brah.
Since when is Fabolous garbage ? yall hate on anything mainstream.
Most of the hate is for Red Cafe, and he’s nowhere near “mainstream”. Fab is just bad…he’s a punchline rapper who makes RnB songs. He’s like Cassidy.
fab
red cafe
joe bitch ass
I remember an interview u did with producer Boi1da a couple years ago that was really inspiring…more interviews like that would be good
1. Fab (one of the best out!)
2. Joe (one of the most underrated)
3. Red Cafe (one of the most slept on)
#1 Joe….undisputed.
Fab would be #1 if it was for a Ranking at the Circus cuz he’s a BangWagon type of dude. His flow now sounds like everyone from ATL. haha
1. Joe Budden
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2. Fabolous
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3. Red Cafe
joe albums are crap and a sad attempt at selling out . he gets too much hype online,but gets the sale he deserves @ retail
1. Loso
2. Budden
3. Red Cafe
Ya’ll buggin fab wins hands down…Joey aint been hot since “Pump It Up”, fab will rap circles around these cats and Red Cafe need to get a job working at one…outside that I’m Ill joint we dont even like him.
bnutt I think you said it best! Joe is Very lyrical, he makes better lyrics than songs. Loso punchlines are ill and his songs are good, it’s like he’s mastered the art of combining both skills, right now he’s NYC number 1! Cafe mad slept on, he’s a good artist.
@bylaw99 uuze-ah-hater
hahahahahahahahahah you guys reallly want to put joe budden first and than fabolous lmfao
soul tape murdered all of joe buddens his albums man!! ppff still cant belie that fake ass joe budden riderzzz when was his last hit???? fabolous is still in game for how long???? lol
Soul Tape lol what was the last great album this clown made ? how come everytime Joe and Fab get on a track Fabolous is destroyed ? Fabolous is Ryan Leslie at this point minus making beats lol nigga from N.Y but wants to sound like his Atlanta punk ass bitch
^^^ so what if he using down south sounds ?
Jadakiss does the same shit, is he wack too ???
1.Joe Buddens wins easily,but Fab is nice. Joe Buddens is actually one of the few rappers who is not scared to be himself. Only rapper with nothing to hide, him & G-Dep.
they all boys but cafe and budden no where in the same league as LOSO. loso is the most underrated MC since hip hop started. Budden been startin beefs with any and everybody to get popular since 04 and he can’t even carry himself so he needs slaughterhouse. fab kills it every mixtape since loso’s way
1. FAB
2.Loso
3. Fabolous
4. Lambo Loso
5. Funeral Fab
6. The rest of the competition.
6b. Lil Chuckie
7.Drake
8. Lil Wayne
9. Nicki Minaj
10. Joe Budden
negative…fab is boring
joe budden, fab, and then the other dude…fab is boring tho and uses the same flow as loon, and mase…he hasnt been interesting musically since the early 2000′s…
yall crazy fab is waaaaaaay better than joe lyrical wise,and flow.jow budden just has more depth or deeper content in his music compared to fab(as in joe just bitch about his life and why he cant sell in his music which makes seem like he got”depth”.red cafe slept on i got all his mixtape anybody calling him wack dont even listen to his music to comment.anyway
1.fab
2.joe.
3.red
1. Fabolous
2. Joe Budden
-Red Cafe’ cant be compared to these two. No classic albums & only 1 (ok) single.
-Joe Budden’s 1st album is a classic. period. which makes up for not many classic singles… (see: lauryn hill). also lyrically top 20.
-Fabolous has a classic in Loso’s Way & several classic singles. also lyrically top 20.
1. Fabolous
2. Joe Budden
3. Red Cafe
Fab is a killer and the longevity just makes him a standout, on the otherside Budden is a vicious rapper who can wipe off any rappers career with a sweet 16. Red Cafe is still developing and he is holding his own. Please support my column http://www.hypemagazine.co.za/columns/weekly-hip-hop-review-with-d-e-s-%e2%80%93-21082012/
right to left
1. Fab
2.Joe
3. cafe
1.Fab,2.Joe budden—————————————————————————————30.red cafe
Red Cafe betta than 2 Chains I’ll say that
1. Loso (Underrated, Versatile, MC, The Best) for years Loso held us down with hits and he walked in this game wearing no cruthces no diddy, no dupri, no dr. dre, no cash money from Baby and no RoCs from Jay but He still HERE (RELAVENT) …….
2. Red Cafe (Talented, His bars can be better tho, Potential)
3. Joe Budden ——>>> This nigga ain’t have a hit since pump it up and had to be part of a team to get heard and hold on to his career don’t get me wrong he’s nice but you been in this game going on 10 years …. Remember the Triangle Offense? (Budden, Fab & Cain) then he tried to pair up with Stack Bundles…. As a matter of fact ask himwat happen to his team On Top Music????? and besides he fucks all Fab’s left overs and wifes them bottom line fuck that nigga
In amsterdam we only know 2 songs of joe budden 1 is pump it up second is ft christina millian lol how the hell somebody dare to wrote that joe budden is betta lol and im sorry loso allways kills a beat even if kanye is on it go and listen start it up and tell me in you think budden would have killed it looooooll lmfao
Yall niggas really be sleepin on Red
1.Fab
2.Red
3.Joe
DEF
Joey
FAB
RED
an amsterdam finest….how can u say joe aint the best if u only heard pump it up wich was like 1 of his only commercial songs from like 20 yrs ago and that crap on christina millon….listen to som mood muzik then talk to me fuck boi…#fuckouttahear
We talking about Joe Budden from Pump It Up right.? Yeah 1. Fab 2. Joe 3. Red
@ amsterdam finest, Please don’t represent Amsterdam, Holland, Europe or mankind anymore. You sound stupid and retarded. The fact that you decided to comment on a subject you know nothing about, with the dumbest argument you could’ve came up with really makes me question the value of your existence. I don’t know what cave you’ve been in but we know plenty of Budden songs overhere, and my team in Amsterdam also. Same goes for the Fab catalog and Cafe, And you talk all that crap o THIS SITE, full of music from all 3 of them. Kill yo’self!
For the record:
As mc’s
1.Joe
2.Fab
3.Red
as rappers:
1.Fab
2.Joe
3.Red
1.Fab
2.Joe
3.red cafe
red cafe is the worst rapper alive go get a day job.
@rotterdam roy are u stupid or what??? the only hit of joe budden is pump it up but lets go to the facts look at the views of joe budden his songs on youtube and then take look at loso ! men lie numbers dont!
shout to nigel i love these stories cause you can start a debating war i love topics like these ! you see its more than 50 comments
1)Fab 2)Joe
3)Red Cafe
Joe was asked who was better him or Fab. His answer? Fab. Nuff sed. Fab been the most complete mc (underground mixtapes, mainstream album, sales, etc.) with more than enough lyricism for any type of track (street, girly, or real life). Joe is a close 2nd IMO. His pure wordplay and versatility on ANY beat is as underrated as Fab’s ability to lace any track. And Joey doesn’t destroy Fab on every track they’re on. They BOTH get off. For those who doubt that and those who think Joey’s garbage listen to 6 Minutes of Death. Original version (Wayne/Fab/Cass) and the remix (Jae Millz/Stack Bundles/Joey) where they shoulda subbed Joey in for Wayne all day. And Fab definitely had the better verse on Some Niggas (Paul Cain/Fab/Joey). From what I’ve heard from Red…he’s just not there yet.