Drake went all out for his first annual OVO fest in his hometown of Toronto. One of his special guest was none other than Eminem. Drake went on to call Eminem the greatest of all time before his exit from the stage. More clips form the show on the way.
Bonus: Drake – Im Ready For You (via Mr.X)
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so now drake is dick riding em now he went from writing a song about crying if jay-z died to saying he love lil wayne to saying em is the greatest of all times sit down drake really big headed fucker http://www.twitter.com/indiana85
he might just be the greatest of all time when it is all said and done.
God damn it, I was going to go but Drake’s album was so crap I decided not to. I can’t believe I missed Eminem in Toronto. I’ve been waiting so long but he hasn’t performed here for years.
cosign big L , this nigga drake calls everybody the greatest lol , make up your mind they all can’t be the greatest.
Drake dickrides everyone…Jay, Wayne, Nas, Eminem and Kanye ect.
No, Drake IS a dickriding fanboy don’t get me wrong, but this is the first time he’s called a rapper the GOAT.
Also Em is top 5 definitely but Jay-Z is the greatest. Em had a huge advantage in the media throughout his whole career, not saying it’s his fault.
shady! people gets crazyy aha
he brought out em jayz rick ross fab bun b and kardi
he also brought out em jayz rick ross fab bun b and kardi
Co sign the folks above me. Whomever drake is around @ a certain point in time is automatically the greatest.
yeah Drake needs to sit down somewhere…everyone is the greatest to him…next year it’s going to be Andre 3000, then after that he’s gonna blow everyone’s mind and call Souljah Boy the greatest…sit down nigga…please sit down!!!
the ovo fest was live as hell last night , all type of people were there . but i wish it was at the acc and not outside a Ontario places
Eli Porter G.O.A.T
hmm i wonder how Jay is gon feel about that
Drake just stand for Dick Ride and Kiss Everything. All he ever does is dick ride other people. Calm down man.
drake is the nicest kid in the game. not lyrical nice i mean like a nice guy he’s the nicest guy in the game. he will say nothing bad, he is the anti-50cent. as much as i hate 50 for always hating, i dont like this always loving drake. thats not real nobody is that nice, but i forgot he is an actor so…….
SHIT NIGGA EM IS THE HARDEST RAPPER ALIVE
wheres that youngmoney kid on this post??
Nigga who the fuck cares about Shady ….
ROC
Oh god now i know why Drake doesn’t read blog comments anymore.He just express his opinion for a certain moment and it get taken like this? To be perfectly honest my “Greatest of all time” list changes every now and then depending on my mood. That’s why i never rank them and it stays a random list. But anyways i hope this doesn’t get blown out of proportion like everything else that comes out his mouth.
I think he meant it out of respect and did it to hype the crowd up…not taking nothing away from Em but i wouldn’t take it too serious.
greatest of all time, smh, what about rappers like pac, biggie, nas, big l, big pun, fair enough if it’s his opinion but god damnn
JUST ANTED TO SAY THAT FAR AS OVERALL JAY IN TOP 5 ARGUABLY BUT FAR AS LYRICISM JAYZ IS DEFINTELY NOTIN THE TOP 7 WE ALL KNOW THAT
No no no. He doesn’t even represent the culture. Pac is the G.O.A.T.
But that is his opinion; he’s entitled to it.
another day another dick to hop on. way to go drake
lol @ Drake just stand for Dick Ride And Kiss Everything (c) Pain. haha
EMINEM IS THAT NIGGA…. THE FIRST DICK RIDE I APROVE, NOHOMO
lol what happened to wayne being the greatest of all time as far as i know there could be only 1 great lol
drake is funny but im not hating on him still like his music
Em went in strongly and quietly
Fire
I think Drake is saying that based on what Eminem accomplished coming from Detroit and being a white weird rapper and selling over 80 million albums. He isn’t basing it on “cultural impact”. Eminem really came from nothing to something. Eminem is in the Top 10 of the greatest ever.
Everyone has their own opinion…very true.
Drake is smoking crack. foh.
Eventhough he flips more than Jacki Chan, he’s entitled to his several opinions. I on the other hand don’t think that he is. I feel he gets entirely too much credit bc the color of his skin. If it was a blk mc spitting what em is spitting you’d puzzle his style and wonder what the hell is wrong with him.
Drake stay dickriding niggas!
Greatest of All Time? Idk about all that.
One of the Greatest? Maybe.
Imma keep it 100, I’m tired of this dude Em already, his career is just magnified cuz he’s white, greatest of all time my ass get off dudes dick dude ain’t even a top 10 rapper, i’m sick of ppl callin dude GOAT.
Do you think EM and Ross saw each other back stage…LMAO!!
EM prolly looked at him, like, “Whose the Muuuuunkey now, after spanking u on the billboard charts”…
hahaha
SAMFROMTHEBAY says:
I think Drake is saying that based on what Eminem accomplished coming from Detroit and being a white weird rapper and selling over 80 million albums. He isn’t basing it on “cultural impact”. Eminem really came from nothing to something. Eminem is in the Top 10 of the greatest ever.
Everyone has their own opinion…very true.
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Eminem being white isn’t a disadvantage, it’s the complete opposite. Even eminem admitted that on “White America”. Eminem is hands down one of the all time greats but as far as marketability & exposure he’s had it 1million times easier than hov/PAC/big…etc. Encore was str8 up garbage but it did almost a milli in the first week, rolling stone mag gave it a 3.5 out of 4 & blender gave it a 4 out of 5. Relapse was average & it had the same reception. Recovery is the 1st decent eminem album in almost a decade. Eminem could fart over a dr dre beat & it’ll go platinum & get good reviews. Being white makes it waaaayyyyy easier for him. Jay-z got crucified for kingdom come & eminem is looked at like a genius for records that even he admits were str8 garbage. But even though eminem has had his fair share of terrible records he is still in my top 10 based off of Marshall mathers lp, eminem show & recovery. But I can’t give a guy the top spot if half of his catalogue is ass & he admits that it’s ass. Kanye west worst album is better than Encore/the re-up/relapse.
lets just be real about this drake is a fagot go back to disney shows lmao at retarded ass homos thinking his rhymes are good
DRAKE D0ES DICKRIDE EVERY0NE BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY THE FIRST TIME HE CALLED S0ME0NE “THE GREATEST 0FALL TIME” REALTALK THE LAST TIME HE SAID WAYNE WAS THE GREATEST ALIVE, L0L BUT I JUST THINK HE SAYING THAT BCUZ 0F THE WAY “REC0VERY” BLEW “THANK ME LATER” 0UT….LOL WHY DID EM L00K SO EMOTIONAL/ SERIOUS WHEN DRAKE SAID THAT??
he says he’s the greatest just to big him up, no need to talk politics on this one, chill out lol
Drake is the hottest thing around, bringing eminem and jay-z, come on dude those fans couldn’t dream of more
I hate when ppl em only sells records cuz he’s white. How come Paul wall don’t sell that Much records. How come bubba sparxx don’t sell records. They’re white. It’s becuz they as nice em. If y’all really anything eminem couldn’t even get a deal cuz he was white. Labels didn’t wanna sign a whiteboy cuz of that whole vanilla ice shit. All of jay z albums went platinum. Bigge when diamond. Lil Wayne and 50 sold a million in the first week. Pac sold almost as much albums as em. They’re all black.
…i wouldn’t go as far as calling drake a dickrider but i’m pretty sure he would of said the same thing if it was wayne, JAY-Z, or any legend on stage with him. he seems to big-up everyone when working with them. lol
now, Eminem is nice, but the greatest rapper of all times? i’m not sure about that at all.. (JAY-Z is in my opinion). not taken anything away from the guy but his whole commercial career was kind of built of of being the white rapper who dissed pop-princesses and boy-banders. not to mention gays, his mom, wife, and whoever else.
oh yeah, drake’s album.. sucks ass. and i like the guy, but that album os his.. isn’t very good. i’ve yet to listen to the whole thing straight through.
also, kanye’s better than eminem. bye ahahahaha
he pays homage, somethin no one on realtalkny does lol biggest hater base on the net right here. Shit’s funny
@ Rudboi
“Eminem being white isn’t a disadvantage, it’s the complete opposite. Even eminem admitted that on “White America”. Eminem is hands down one of the all time greats but as far as marketability & exposure he’s had it 1million times easier than hov/PAC/big…etc. Encore was str8 up garbage but it did almost a milli in the first week, rolling stone mag gave it a 3.5 out of 4 & blender gave it a 4 out of 5. Relapse was average & it had the same reception. Recovery is the 1st decent eminem album in almost a decade. Eminem could fart over a dr dre beat & it’ll go platinum & get good reviews. Being white makes it waaaayyyyy easier for him. Jay-z got crucified for kingdom come & eminem is looked at like a genius for records that even he admits were str8 garbage. But even though eminem has had his fair share of terrible records he is still in my top 10 based off of Marshall mathers lp, eminem show & recovery. But I can’t give a guy the top spot if half of his catalogue is ass & he admits that it’s ass. Kanye west worst album is better than Encore/the re-up/relapse. ”
I’m a keep it 100.. That’s some of the realest shit right their. Eminem is over hyped yeah, sure dude got rap skills but let’s keep it 100, dude died out after Eminem show he turned soft, repetitive and old news. Em’s true fan base is White suburban america and western european countries. I’m tired of ppl calling this fucker greatest of all time, his talent has been around for ages for chicano/black artists, except Em’s talent is so COMMON in those communties they don’t get as acknowledged anymore. Eminem’s talent is rare in the WHITE community I agree, but in the over all hip hop community it is nothing special, it’s been around for ages, and there are many more artists out there that deserve much more respect than this guy Em is getting. Mostly Em stans and dick riders are the ones buying his records and making a big deal about him, I’m not kidding u, the dude disses females, get’s props for it, the dude disses gays, get’s props for it, what’s next he disses senior citizens and get’s props for that too? This dude can put out an album all about nothing worse than soulja boys, i gurantee it’ll still sell 800k it’s first week get all the exposure through the media and get a shit load of awards, i’m sick of this fuckin guy slim shady, i give credit where credit is due, but fuck talk about over doing it here, shit.
em sold records at first because he was white AND controversial; he was the release for angry white teens in the suburbs
JAY IS THE G.O.A.T.
every1 is entitled 2 their opinion. im not mad at him for havin an opinion but he changes it based on who’s presents he’s in. there is a different greatest rapper every day with drake. in my opinion hov is the goat but thats just my opinion. the only difference is if u ask me tomorrow I’ll give u the same answer….
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Em’s the GOAT. hate it or love it! coming from a real nigga!
Sick performance. Who would of thought that a white and a jew will arguably be considered the hottest thing in rap right now. No one ever fathom that lol…
To the top of the bloggers who were making their case about Eminem being the greatest of all time and saying that the only reason he sells is because he’s white. Well let me tell you that I completely agree. lol!!…I mean don’t get it twisted…the guy can rap his ass off. But that fact that he’s white help tremendously. How many white rappers are there are successful as Eminem? exactly my point. Eminem was endorsed by Dre and came at the right time and released records that were him…he drew his own lane, the white rappers before him were all trying to outblack the black rappers…and that’s why they failed.
I feel Jay-Z is arguably top 3 to ever do this rap shit. Not only his album success…or his money..just his rhyme patter…like 85% of rappers now all emulate this motherfuckers flow (Wayne, Drake, T.I, Kanye at times..Fat Joe Jeezy at times, Ross, Jim Jones etc) they all emulate jay-z I can tell, you can hear it in their rhymes..the word patterns they use etc…. With Nas and Big and Pac also in the conversation. Like there are still flows and songs that Biggie spit in 1994 that make Drake/Lil Wayne and the whole Young Money crew look like amateurs.
Eminem is def on my top 5 or top 7, not even top 10. He’s top 7..for sure.Marshall Mathers Lp can go toe to toe with your favorite rappers album. period.
lmao@Ross sold 41K copies lastweek. Good luck trying to get Hype Williams to direct yo next video SMH.
Why does every blog analyse and scrutinize whatever Drake says or does? So he called Em the GOAT…thats his opinion, now lets just move on for fuck sake! Everything Drake does is criticized…aint the blogs got nothing better to do? SMH
Em is the GOAT
“I hate when ppl em only sells records cuz he’s white. How come Paul wall don’t sell that Much records. How come bubba sparxx don’t sell records. They’re white.”
Here’s ya answer homie, the rappers u mention represent are white rappers that represent the streets, that always seems to fail because white man rapping about the ghetto isn’t much popular, Em raps for the suburbs that’s why he is liked so much by ppl in Suburban America and western European countries, the rappers u mentioned rap for the streets big diff homie.
“em sold records at first because he was white AND controversial; he was the release for angry white teens in the suburbs”
“I mean don’t get it twisted…the guy can rap his ass off. But that fact that he’s white help tremendously. How many white rappers are there are successful as Eminem? exactly my point. Eminem was endorsed by Dre and came at the right time and released records that were him…he drew his own lane, the white rappers before him were all trying to outblack the black rappers”
Imma keep it 100, i co sign
hell even em would probably co-sign
“See the problem is I speak to suburban kids
who other wise would of never knew these words exist”
By the way I’mma be 100 Drake is straight up dick riding i think everybody know that by now, Jay Z, Andre 3 stacks, and many others, now Em. Quite obvious he is kissing ass here, I find it hard to believe drake realistically bumping a slim shady record c’mon now.
And the only reason Em is working with newer artists is to try and get back in the spotlight, but I think after Eminem show nobody really gives a shit about the guy other than the white kids from the suburbs and western european country ppl.
50 stay real close to that white stay real cloooose always gon be a shady artist fuck dr dre
50 smart that white boy the best ever stay real close after rap is gone eminem always gon be sellin out stadiums gubit openinin act then d12 stay close to that white boooooy
Drake i love your music but Eminem is not the GOAT
Eminem been & wil always be successful because he’s the white people’s only decent rapper and they automatically feel the need to support thier hero. why u think all his albums do crazy numbers outta no were ? or u gon tell me everyone bumpin eminem in the whip nshit lol
The true GOATs are Lil Wayne & Birdman
@youngmoney
Eminem has pure talent, presence, lyricism, and can write about violence, love, politics, sex and still outshine your favorite rapper
He might not be GOAT but your crazy to think he does good numbers bcus of his skin color
Wayne did a milli and hes black
@ RealTalkHawii
Imma keep it 100, Wayne did a milli cuz he had a huge buzz built up about Carter III from all the mixtapes and pushbacks , and guest features he was doing at the time, Wayne was doing a lot for the underground scene prior to him selling a milli on Carter III.
@keepit100 the point RealTalkHawaii is trying to make is that skin colour has nothing to do with sales
@m
“Let’s do the math if I was black I would have sold half
I ain’t have to graduate from Lincoln H.S to Know that”
@Keepit100 i find it ironic that your name is Keepit100 when you say things that do the exact of kkeping it 100!
Show me written proof where it says a white rapper will sell twice as much as a black rapper.
Just to add to my point Life After Death (BIG’s Album) went diamond, as did Speakerboxxx/The Love Below (OutKast).
And last time I checked they were black.
Now please do me a favour and go fuck yourself =)
@m
Imma keep 100 Life After Death went platinum for 2 reason 1.) Big was blowing up to his peak at that time 2.) He died at the time before his album sold. Death + Huge popularity at the time = what do u think homie, also don’t forget Big got a lot of street respect as well. Same with outkast, they been classics for a long time, they never seem to let there fans down, last time I checked both Big Boi n 3Stacks got a lot of true respect in the street and mainstream community. Now let’s look at this dude Eminem, he don’t got no street respect, nobody bumps him or talks about him in the “real” hip hop community, the only ppl bumpin him, and hyping him up are these kids like u from the suburbs and from western european countries, and quite frankly homie, they’re the only ones buyin his album too. Last time I checked Em’s last solid album was Eminem show, after that look what happened dude is repetitive , using the same formula same ingrediants for each album, at least outkast and big switch up their styles on each album? Em?
Not so much, same shit every album, he makes an ass out himself ina video, talks about the same subjects (that which only white suburban kids can relate too), dissing artists that don’t stand a chance against him britney,moby,mariah and many many others) if Em was black he’d be another Masta Ace or another rapper , there are many black artists that have the same versatility and are still good if not better than em, but than why is it Em’s career get’s magnified while the black one’s don’t ? Can u answer that homie? It’s because in the black community Eminem’s talent is common, in the white community Eminem is a hero so they whites gonna do everything they can to support Em cuz that’s all they got.
I’m not sayin he talented but he sure isn’t greatest of all time homie, go read a book. I swear Em dick riders are the funniest ones yet, he can make a shit album, diss senior citizens and do a lot of things, and admit they are fucked up and wrong, and that his shit trash, and u still got stans that are gonna defend the fuck out him, lmao shit is funny that’s keepin it 100 right their homie
@ lill I agree
“em sold records at first because he was white AND controversial; he was the release for angry white teens in the suburbs”
@m …that lyric that @keepit100 just said was an eminem lyric. Cmon son em would not sell nearly as much if he was black. He is not the goat but he is a great.
Imma keep it 100
I like how this dude put it
“That’s what hurts Eminem in every GOAT Hip Hop debate. His catalog just doesn’t measure up to the GREATS. With basically 1 Classic album in “MMLP” (Which people debate it’s Classic Status) it just hard to surpass other rappers who have dropped 2 Classics and many game changing albums. “Recovery” was a step in the right direction subject matter wise but the production was hit or miss. “Relaspe” was over-rated just like “Encore” was and both of those albums were weak 3 Mic or under albums. “SSLP” and “TES” are solid albums both above 4 mics for sure. “8 Mile” Soundtrack was dope and “The Reup” was forgettable. Most of his mainstream singles were some of the worst in Hip Hop History though his 2nd singles are mostly good. Overall it’s a solid catalog but Eminem doesn’t have an ablum seeing some of the pillars in Hip Hop History. ILLmatic, Ready To Die, Reasonable Doubt, Paid in Full and Me against the World illistrates why it’s impossible to me for Eminem to be Top 5. He doesn’t have a single album BETTER, that’s the key word, BETTER than those therefor he cannot be put ahead of those emcees. The books will sqeeze him into the Top 10 cause of his sales and impact which this thread proved are inflated but the fact is he’s Top 15 at best.”
@ at keep it 100. What ashtOn Roth he’s not a street rapper he don’t sell as mush records as em. I don’t see y y’all always trying turn diss into a race thing. I’m gonna let you in on a lilttle secret. Every artist weather black white or purple needs a white adeince to be sucessfull. They the only ones that buys album. The “streets” dont buy shit. Jay z get as much shine as eminem kayne and Wayne does to. Eminem sells cuz he a good artist with a big fanbase. He actually raps bout something instead if all the cars, guns, and women like so many rappers doing today. Ppl expect something from em’s music they know they’re gonna get something from it. You can’t say that bout every rapper
@ Keepit100
Imma keep it 100, the only thing 100 is everything you’re saying is based on assumption and this assumption is based off you’re opinion…. fact.
Opinions are like assholes, everyones got one.
@ keep it 100. Bubba sparxxx a street rapper? Now I kno u don’t kno what ur talking. What ppl u kno from the hood that bumps bubba sparxxx? Lmao
@Jaykid , Imma keep it 100. U are missing the point homie, nobody says Em is not good, but let’s scrape to the surface here homie, what exactly puts Eminem in “Greatest Rapper of all time” category”? What exactly even puts him in a top 5 category? U have to look at the entire picture here, I ain’t hating on dude i give him props, but u have to give credit where credit is due, Em is good, but there is a thin line between ‘good’ and ‘great’ and Em is just not great, we are talking about the entire hip hop community here, not just suburban america, Em get’s props but he doesn’t put out what many many other artists have done in the industry, yet, his career is somehow magnified x1000 have u not noticed? Ok, Em is a good rapper, tell me why? Cuz he is versatile? Cuz he has subjective matter? Explain more please? I can list a bunch of rappers that are much more versatile than Em that don’t get nearly half the shine Em get’s, that also rap about more subjective things. Let’s not forget, Em as an artist lacks a lot of components, he is reptitive , does not think outside the box, dude is running out of ideas, and quite frankly it’s showing. Album after album he gets praised so much love and respect, I actually listen before I judge along with many many other people including critics, yet why is Em’s mediocre performances these days getting so much attention, can u explain that to me? And no it’s not cuz the music is good either, gimme and answer homie I really wanna know why is Em getting so much shine for his mediocracy?
Is it because he is truely that ‘great’? or is it because people are really choosing sides cuz he’s white? Let’s be 100, Em’s true fan base here is Suburban America + Western European countries, he tends to relate to those ppl those most, yet apparently those ppl seem to be boasting the most about him have u not noticed? I do see past skin color, but u cannot deny skin color is still a big thing especailly now a days, if u don’t agree u in hella denial to think it doesn’t exist any more and that everything is all good. Em sticks out like a sore thumb in the hip hop community, and he is basically like the savior to the white folks, as an over all artist, he maybe is top 10, but Greatest of all TIME? Get the fuckk outta here homie not even top 5.
U don’t gotta be rapping about guns and sex to be getting props in the hip hop community, u just have to be able to relate to the hip hop community to get respect, and Em just doesn’t relate to the majority of hip hop community, seriously I cannot remember the last time I heard someone boasting about Eminem other than some white kids from the suburbs, bottom line is fact is, Em’s music is good, but not that special, he gets way too much props for a “somewhat good career” he’s had
@keepit100
Ok “homie,” you say the same fucking shit every post… Talk about someone ruining out of ideas.
Eminem is one of the best… GOAT… no one will ever know.. it changes all the time… Em is right there though.. true I agree him being white helps a little but not 80 mill worth… All ive heard you stay is shit about ems mainstream singles… He doesnt take them serious and even he admits it. Theyre supposed to be funny songs. The rest of his album is what makes him a good artist. His lyrics and word for word rhyming is unmatched due to the fact that he is rhyming about REAL SHIT not guns cars on rims or bitches.
Sure hes had a bad songs on an album everyone has but hes never had a completely “bad album” Jay has had bad shit outkast biggie pac wayne any person in the rap game have made bad songs before end of story.. but to say em isnt even in the top 5 maybe top 10 is disrespectful and any of the rappers you’ve mentioned above would slap your ass for saying so because even they acknowledge him as better… Ever heard “Renegade” Em embarrassed Jay on his on song.
Rappers have their ups and downs, good songs and bad songs, but the ones that stay on top for as long as people like em big jay andre wayne … those are the best. There is no Greatest rapper of all time. There cant be. Just like there cant be a greatest T.V. show of all time a greatest food of all time greatest car of all time etc. EVERYONE has a different opinion and a different style. I can completely bump an Em album all day or all week and then not play it for a long time because im in the mood for something else.
As for his somewhat good career…what you doin with your life? Because he didnt drop an album for 4 years and was still making almost 20 mill… not many rappers can say that.
@granson9109 lol @ your “same thing every post” comment seems like someone couldn’t come up with something better obviously it’s not me.
You say “Eminem is one of the best” truely, ONE of the best, is what you and many other people (white america claim) BUT how are you going to back up that justification? Explain to me how he is so great to even be mentioned in the same sentence as many other artists like Nas, Jay Z, Pac, Big , Rakim? What seperates Em from the pack other than he is white? His rap skills? His subject matter? His first few albums he dropped? If we are going to even compare conclusivly, we must ask ourselves, does Em truely posses rap skills far beyond what hip hop has seen in the past? No. Does Em rap about subject matter far beyond what has already been talked about in hip hop? No. Does Em first few albums match up to other great masterpieces in hip hop that helped mold it to what it is today? That’s debatable.
Now tell me this, what exactly has Eminem done to take his career to the NEXT level each release? Absolutely nothing! He uses the same ingrediants , the same formula each album practically, is that a surprise to you? And my friend, we are not just talking singles here, his subject matter has been beat dead with a bat by now, now you think if any artist was truely that “great” he wouldn’t have to be talking about the same shit each album? Tell me, what truely defines a hip hop artist? Is it there versatility, is it their creativity, is it originality, is it how much you can relate to the people, or is it all of the above? I give em versatility, so what? What about the rest ? I sure as hell don’t relate to him, the only ppl I know do are kids in white kids in Ireland and UK and suburban America. U mean to tell me if I can rhyme complex about the same shit each and every album with a different twist that makes me a great rapper? No, it takes more than that, believe me.
Eminem posses’s talent that is not found everywhere in the white community, his whole persona is not to be black, or to be a thug, and I Respect him for that, because he keeps it real with himself, but let’s take a look at the big picture here, and let’s give credit where credit is due; Infinite – good, sslp – good, mmlp – probably his best, eminem show another pure album, but something happened at eminem show, he started going soft, and if u notice all his releases since than have been to recycle the same ingrediants over and over again and rap literally mediocracy, can u tell me what happened? Since than it seems like the props he’s been getting hasn’t changed one bit, there is absolutely no excuse for that.
I say it once and I say it again, even Eminem himself will tell u, if he was NOT white, if he was chicano, or black, do u seriously believe anybody would give a fuck? I don’t think so, Dre new EXACTLY what he was doing when he recruited EM, Dre new that the game needed to be spiced up w/ something different, he new having a white controversial man with black/chicano man’s rap talent would stir up something new, and worth while in the world of business.
I gurantee u the first thing people noticed when he came out was that he was white, followed by his rap skills not vise versa, him being white has made his career magnified x1000% . And lastly, sure rappers have good and bad songs, but are we saying all rappers are the GOAT here or even top 5? When jay dropped kingdom come, he get’s crucified, shitted on , and hated like crazy, Em drops Relapse, all of a sudden it’s his big come back, he is winning awards, and getting tons of props, u see what I am talking about here? Only half of his career has only been truely good that I give props, the other half? Do we mention that ? The fact of the matter is, Eminem isn’t as consistant as other top 5MCS especially Jay, Em is an inconsistant rapper, who puts his part in guest features, and drops are mediocre half ass album and gets tons of props for it, and it’s not just me that’s saying this either, dude maybe top 10, but let’s realistically look at the whole picture here and not exaggerate this guy for what he is really worth please?.
Em has NEVER done any music on the level of Chuck D, BIG, Jay, Pac, KRS, Nas and a few other people.
that bonus track go hard!
Eminem albums get so much attension cuz he drops one evey three years and he a big name in music. The same reason why kingdom come was jayz’s biggest selling album and he’s the only artist in the history of music to have 12 straight album to debut at number 1. They’re in names not just in hip hop but in music in general. ” nobody in the hip hop commuity relates to eminem” do u even kno what hip hop commuity is? Hip hop is not just in the hood. Hip hop is gobal. That’s why it’s the biggest genre in music. It’s in Europe, afica, India, Germany, scottland, and yes suburban America. They are the ones that buys the albums. Hip hop is bout being real. Telling what you think. Rapping about you know and what expenriences in life. That’s why em is great cuz he takes his life capture in on a song like nobody else does. How many rappers you kno that rap about guns, drugs, cars, women, money, bling, about 80 percent of rappers. Now how many rappers talk about the shit em talks about. Nobody. That’s why he stands out.
When it comes to pure rhyming ability em is hands down one of the best if not the best but what henders him is his mediocre catalogue. Recovery is the 1st decent album he’s dropped in years. To put him above every1 else u would have to disregard all those mediocre albums. And like I said before, kanye’s wackiest album is better than half of em’s catologeu. One of my favorite quotes is from micheal Jordan. He said it’s hard 2 make it 2 the top but it’s way harder 2 stay there. That’s y hov is at the top of my list. Illuminate or not, the nigga made it 2 the top in the mid to late 90′s & he ain’t left since. Em made it 2 the top, took a 10 year break & is finally trying 2 make his way back 2 the top. If ur looking at consistency em is not even in the conversation. The only reason I place em in my top 10 list is because of what he did in 2000-2001 maybe 2002 and his lyrical ability. To put him above jay kanye…etc u would have to sweep 2002-early 2010 under the rug and pretend it never happend. 8mile sound track was dope but em was only on a couple of songs, both of d12 albums weren’t anything special, encore was one of the worst albums I’ve ever hurd, the re-up was wack as fuck & relapse was average at best. Jay-z black album is better than everything I just named put together times 10. Jay-z was retired for a huge portion of the 21st century & still managed 2 b more consistent & relevant. I’m not sayin eminem isn’t one of the best lyrically but the fact that he’s white has just as much impact as his talent. Encore got great reviews from rolling stone & blender & it sold 1.7 million in the first two weeks. Jay-z dropped kingdom come which isn’t his best album but 10 times better tHan encore & we say hov is done. If em was black America would have treated encore like kingdom come. If eminem was black we wouldn’t pretend like his 3 out of 5 mic alums were classic & buy 10million copies of it. How can u say him being white has no impact when eminem him self made a entire song about how being white has helped him out tremendously. R u callin eminem a liar????
@ jaykid
Kingdom come was nowhere near his biggest selling album. Not even close.
It sold over 600,000 in the first week. That’s his biggest first week ever
@Rudboi
Imma keep it 100 , that’s some real talk, I agree.
Yea it was his biggest first week. I thought u meant that that was his biggest selling album overall. Miscommunication. My b
Rakim = wilt chamberlain
Big & Pac r like bird & magic
Hov=MJ
Kanye & Wayne = lebron & Kobe
Eminem = ray Allen
The reason em is ray Allen Is because ray Allan is a beast when he’s on fire but u never know when he’s gunna b on fire. He either makes every shot or misses every shot. His very inconsistent. But when he’s on fire he can’t b stopped
I didn’t say him being didn’t have a impact. In 2002 in he drpped the eminem show. That album was the shit. If u talking about. Kanye worst is better half eminem’s discography. R u counting the slim shady lp, the Marshall mathers lp and the eminem show and relapse. And if ur talking about be constant u can’t put wanye and or kanye in the convo. That 808 and heartbreak was trash and that rebrith shit was trash. Eminem could even get a deal cuz he was white now he selling records cuz he’s white. I love jay z but after reasonable doubt he had to change the way he raps in order to be sucessful. He said it himself. I dumb down for my audience to double my dollars. He still one if the greatest. Em didn’t have to change the way he rapped. Jay z even saud that his second album could been a classic, but he was trying to sell records. White America is the biggest consumers of music and em tapped into them by making music they can relate to.
I meant to recovery instead of relapse my b lol
yoo haha did u hear that mutha fuckin crowdd once em stepped up on stagee sheeeet its ass if he was in his own hometown haha em is for surely one of the greatest of all time hes right next to pac in my books manne
I never said him being white didnt effect his career. I said it didnt effect 80 million records worth. Rudeboi said a lot of what I just said except the Jay shit. And I’m not backing em because hes my favorite rapper either because hes far from it but to say hes done nothing for hip hop and the rap game is just ignorant any.. ANY of the great rappers will tell you hes one of the best your boy jay included. I agree Em is very hit and miss therefore like i also said hes not the GOAT. My whole point which the dude that types a novel every time apparently missed is there is NO GOAT. There cant be. To say Em is MAYBE top ten is just bein a hater because you cant get past the fact that hes white.
I didn’t say him being white didn’t have a impact. In 2002 in he drpped the eminem show. That album was the shit. If u talking about. Kanye worst is better half eminem’s discography. R u counting the slim shady lp, the Marshall mathers lp and the eminem show and relapse. And if ur talking about be constant u can’t put wanye and or kanye in the convo. That 808 and heartbreak was trash and that rebrith shit was trash. Eminem could even get a deal cuz he was white now he selling records cuz he’s white. I love jay z but after reasonable doubt he had to change the way he raps in order to be sucessful. He said it himself. I dumb down for my audience to double my dollars. He still one if the greatest. Em didn’t have to change the way he rapped. Jay z even saud that his second album could been a classic, but he was trying to sell records. White America is the biggest consumers of music and em tapped into them by making music they can relate to.
I didn’t say him being white didn’t have a impact. In 2002 in he drpped the eminem show. That album was the shit. If u talking about. Kanye worst is better half eminem’s discography. R u counting the slim shady lp, the Marshall mathers lp and the eminem show and recovey . And if ur talking about be constant u can’t put wanye and or kanye in the convo. That 808 and heartbreak was trash and that rebrith shit was trash. Eminem could even get a deal cuz he was white now he selling records cuz he’s white. I love jay z but after reasonable doubt he had to change the way he raps in order to be sucessful. He said it himself. I dumb down for my audience to double my dollars. He still one if the greatest. Em didn’t have to change the way he rapped. Jay z even saud that his second album could been a classic, but he was trying to sell records. White America is the biggest consumers of music and em tapped into them by making music they can relate to.
Imma keep it 100 Em hasn’t done shit for hip hop like dude said since early 00′s, but my point being dude get’s mass credit by everyone hopping on the band wagon, mostly the media and white suburban kids. This just in MTV just nominated Eminem for 8 fuckin awards that’s what I’m talking bout here, 8 nominations ?? AND For what?? Than again it is MTV of course.
@ jaykid
The bottom line is that eminem was a non factor in hip hop for almost all of the 2000′s. After 2002 eminem sucked ass. Recovery is the 1st decent thing he has done in a very very very long time. If that’s what u consider consistent, than I’m going 2 have to question your intelligence. & who said em was not as consistent as Wayne? Nobody even mentioned Wayne. Wayne sux 2 me. Sayin em is better than Wayne doesn’t mean very much. Wayne can’t even stay on subject when he raps. & I was not including kanye’s R&B album but even if u do include his R&B album it’s still better than encore, both of D12′s albums, Re-up, & relapse. Even eminem admits 2 releasing his fair share of garbage albums. I agreed with eminem completely when he said that. & lol @ em = ray Allen. That’s a pretty clever comparison. @ the end of the day it’s a matter of taste. If u place value on record sales than em is the goat. I value quality albums, constancy, & skill. In my humble opinion I think jay-z is the goat. In 96 he dropped arguably the greatest rap album ever & he hasn’t slowed down since. If ur talkin consistency & a great body of work than hov = goat but that’s just my opinion. Idk where ur located. If ur like me u live in America which is a “free country” so if u disagree that’s fine. I’m jus sayin that in my humble opinion eminem is far too inconsistent to be at the top of my list. If u think em is the goat I respect ur opinion b/c eminem is a beast & I’m a huge fan of his. He’s one of the best lyrical rappers I’ve ever heard. I jus hope nobody thinks Wayne is the goat. Drake mite
I never Said em was consistent. But neither was jay-z how can he be consistent when he didn’t make music as good as he could’ve to sell records haven’t u notice after reason doubt none of jay z’s albums have been as half of good as that. U cant even count d12 and the re up those wasnt his album. Relapse was for the hardcore eminem fans and even admitted that it wasn’t his best. But he was working the drug outta of him. I stil think jayz is the best, I’m saying em gives him a run for his money. Have u heard renagage?
Drake be saying all kind of dumbass shit because he from Canada and dont understand how deep this rap shit
Niggaz dead over this shit; Biggie, Tupac, Mac Dre, Big L
This is more than music, its culture, economics, etc…
Go back and listen the Chuck’s catalog. You will be ashamed to say Em is better than him. Go back and listen to KRS One’s catalog. You will be ashamed to say Em is better than him. Truthfully you don’t even have to go that far back in those catalogs. New Whirl Odor smashes ANYTHING Em has done. Hip Hop Lives obliterates ANYTHING Em has ever done. Let’s not even talk about their early joints.
its so annoying to read these comments and people still thinking eminem is not the best rapper ever its so weird i totally agree with drake he is the best rapper theres just alot of jelaous people out there just accept it everyone.
You guys are all crazy. Eminem is the GOAT. Jay-Z? Remember when Em already MURDERED him on Renegade? The only person I will ever listen to an argument about being as good as Eminem when it comes to flow and lyrics together is Pac, no one else. Pac was a prophet for black people, too bad none of you took listened to what he had to say.
If eminem just died after the eminem show then he be proclaimed one of the greatest and eveyone would be on his dick. However, ppl just like to hate bc he is white and they havent actually listened to him his entire career. Its just funny wen ppl try to name better rappers bc the list is very short.
Imma keep it 100, I hate when people say Em murdered jay on Renegade, so what ? He won the battle, Jay won the war, he’s the more consistant Emcee, end of discussion
tupac is the greatest but eminem is in the conversation when it comes to the top 10 or top 15!!!!!! I KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RAPPERS AND EMCEES AND EM IS A EMCEE TO THE DEATH BUT HE IS NOT THE GREATEST EMCEE TO ME BUT HE’S IN THE CONVERSATION, I PROMISE IS IN THE TOP 10 OR TOP 15!!!!!!! DO Y’ALL REMEMBER THE TUPAC/BIGGIE ERA? DO Y’ALL REMEMBER THE DEATH ROW DAYS? DO Y’ALL REMEMBER ’96? THINK ABOUT ALL THIS SHIT I’M SAYING.
GOAT= Tupaccccccc Shakurrrrr 4everrr…..and dats Real Talk
OKAY EVERYONE SAYIN DIS AND DAT BOUT EM. LYRICALLY EM IS ONE OF THE BEST IN MY OPINION. TO ME THE ONLY ONLY RAPPERS LYRICALLY THAT ARE BETTER THAN EM ARE RAKIM, TUPAC, BIGGIE, BIG L, BIG PUN, AND NAS BECAUSE TO ME THEY ARE IN A CATEGOREY OF THEIR OWN. BUT OTHER RAPPER CAN YES CAN FUCC WIT EM LYRICAL LIKE ANDRE 3000, IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE, KRS-1, KOOL G RAP, JAYZ, LUPE FIASCO, CASSIDY, BIG DADDY KANE, EARLY KANYE WEST, BENEFIT, DMX, WU TANG CLAN ETC ETC ARE ALL IN THE LIST FOR G.O.A.T. BUT IN TO ME I LIKE LISTEN TO THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL GREAT.MUSIC IS NOT A COMPETITION SO I DON’T RATE PEOPLE I JUST HAVE MUSIC I LIKE LISTENING TO AND NOT LISTENING TO. I DON’T LISTEN TO THE RADIO, OR SOULJA BOY, OR GUCCI MANE, OR WAKA, OR RICK ROSS, OR OTHERS ETC BUT IF SOMEONE SAYS DEY ARE DA GREATEST OF ALL TIME DEN DATS THEIR OPINION AND SHOULD BE RESPECTED
I dnt get it…what more duz em hav to do to prove hes the best…shit he came on da scene sayin evrything that was never sed before and took advantage of the freedom of speech right.he say evrything nikkaz is scared to say.n cmon jay z aint lyrical.tupac was iight cuz he spit the truth but never took chances with his music n str8 up biggie sux.the only rapper that can probably keep up wit em is Big Pun.eminem is definitley G.O.A.T. But pun is steppin on the back of shoes.lol
2 Pac came in the rap game with a gay fade and acted shy and gay as hell, had the same lyrics in about every song, but His music was good. Em is the GOAT as of right now. Drake played on a kids show and was gay too but Lil Wayne found Him by watching that show and Drake caught His eye. His babies Daddy Birdman told Wayne to sign Drake to the Young Money weirdo team and thats where We are right now. Too bad Em didn’t beat up Rick Ross while He was there. Jay Z is great but not better then Em, maybe by $ since He invested His dough but Em is at the top of the list. Biggie and Pac, Big L Big Pun, JMJ etc were great in there days but I guess I just relate to Em because He really didn’t come out gay and He’s stuck with the script.
One guy on here said it best. What more does Em have to do? He set the bar high as a white artist just as well as Big Pun did with his art. Pure masters.
i dont think drake opinion matter….. to anybody!!
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Imma keep 100 Life After Death went platinum for 2 reason 1.) Big was blowing up to his peak at that time 2.) He died at the time before his album sold. Death + Huge popularity at the time = what do u think homie, also don’t forget Big got a lot of street respect as well. Same with outkast, they been classics for a long time, they never seem to let there fans down, last time I checked both Big Boi n 3Stacks got a lot of true respect in the street and mainstream community. Now let’s look at this dude Eminem, he don’t got no street respect, nobody bumps him or talks about him in the “real” hip hop community, the only ppl bumpin him, and hyping him up are these kids like u from the suburbs and from western european countries, and quite frankly homie, they’re the only ones buyin his album too. Last time I checked Em’s last solid album was Eminem show, after that look what happened dude is repetitive , using the same formula same ingrediants for each album, at least outkast and big switch up their styles on each album? Em?
Not so much, same shit every album, he makes an ass out himself ina video, talks about the same subjects (that which only white suburban kids can relate too), dissing artists that don’t stand a chance against him britney,moby,mariah and many many others) if Em was black he’d be another Masta Ace or another rapper , there are many black artists that have the same versatility and are still good if not better than em, but than why is it Em’s career get’s magnified while the black one’s don’t ? Can u answer that homie? It’s because in the black community Eminem’s talent is common, in the white community Eminem is a hero so they whites gonna do everything they can to support Em cuz that’s all they got.
How can u say that Em’s talent is common in the “black community” when there is artist like soulja boy that puts out crap music and still go platinum?! wacka flacka flame is fom the “the black community” and he put out shit music as well, Oj da juiceman, new boyz, T-pain, fat joe, flo-rida, plies, tony yayo, mike jones, birdman (how can u kiss a guy and still act like a gangster?!) the list is long and they are all from “the black community” and put out shit music, right? Yeah, how come they aint never mentioned when people talk about the greatest of all time, and non of them can compare to eminems talent, or am i wrong? No! sure you can discuss if eminem is the greatest of all time, but he’s up there and for some he is the goat accept it!
Wow we got editorials about Eminem in this Bitch!Lyrically he is nice….thats it
I know he’s riding Em shit. HOWEVER…. EMINEM IS THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIME. FUCK WHAT OTHERS SAY.
2pac is the GOAT. Eminem is the Best rapper alive. Even Eminem would say 2pac. That’s why he called himself white pac.
lyricaly is all eminem has??? yo DEEZY u dont know what hip hop is ya punk ass, nobody is as lyrical as em, no1 can spit to the beats he does, no1 touches his flow, NOBODY moves crows like em, no1 sells like eminem, punch lines are off the fuckin hook the metaphors are just crazzy, EMINEM IS HIP HOP wth out em, we would be stukck with fuckin all that bunk ass southern shit that has no talent to it at all raelly, only one i give props to in the sout is fuckin my nigga young buck, but eminem is forsurely the best alive and always willl beee
Drake has officially lost his damn mind…now em is top 10 but how in the hell can you even attempt to say the greatest when you got tupac.,,tupac is the greastest of all time…then you got to throw biggie in there also…by saying eminem over them is not only disrespectful but completely insane…and jay z is top 10 but he straight garbage now… Ge hasn’t made a great album in a long time besides if you want to get technical we should thank nas for jay z rap skills because he straight jacked nas skills and ran away with it….and lil Wayne def doesn’t even go in the same category especially with the nonsense he putting out right now… I have heard drake say this about other rappers to but I think he has lost his mind or something…I mean we all are entitled to our own opinion but that’s like saying Chris brown is the best dancer of all time…like completely not thinking about Michael Jackson…eminem wow… Come on now
Cali bud… I love you analysis…but jay z is like mj cuz PAC and biggie dead…now you no like hell that half of these rappers wouldn’t be that successful if PAC or biggie was here…look how long it took jay z to actually blow up and start making big money…em good lyrically but he be on that psycho shit…and for people who don’t believe that em get so much credit and sell cuz he white losing their damn minds…people like bubba sparkz don’t get that type of credit cuz they ain’t real good and their southern rappers…both bubba and Paul wall are too black acting…em on the other hand is one of them kids that hung with black people and picked up some of the black style but couldn’t get it down…listen to hia music…it got a kick of rock in it…let’s look at the population and record sales… How many white people do we have and how many other race…white people buy albums more than any other race… If em had a grill in his mouth and dressed straight gangsta he but with the same music he wouldn’t be big,,,.he acts black enough to get street credit but white enough to have people on his side period point blank..if you think different something is wrong with you and everything that happens in this country from power to respect has to do with color
Whoever mafe think stupid comment about tupac being on some gay shit is an idiot and need they ass whooped straight up how you gon get on here straight disrespecting the dead… Tupac was so gay tht if he were here now yo punk ass wouldn’t have the balls to let that come out yo cock sucker… So disrespectful man
Drake sounds like shit Live! No rhythm at all He can suck a fatty cause he heas no real skill only the studio can make him sound good! Em is a beast and definitely better rapper than wayne any day of the week! Lil Wayne just comes with one liner after one liner and never says anything that means something! Em is the greatest alive by far. Nobody on his level. Wiz Khalifa is the next to take the game over! Yall on some lame shit if you still on Young money dick!
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