July 2nd, 2009
Complexion Obsession Preview
This is a Joy Daily Exclusive:
The entertainment industry has always been Obsessed with fare skin. Light skinned women have always been casted in lead roles and are put on a pedestal. Dark skin women are overlooked and usually casted as the stereotypical, over sexed, boodie shakers. Is it just business or is it much deeper?
Complexion Obsession finds out why in this controversial look at Hip Hop industry’s top Video Vixens including Melyssa Ford, Bria Myles, Vanessa Veasley, Suelyn, and Dollicia Bryant. White Rapper Paul Wall also gives his take on why the industry is obsessed with light complexions.
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July 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pm
why another repost on this topic REAL TALK NY?
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pm
It is true, fair skin females get more attention than darker complexioned females. I am a “fair skin” black man and I love them all. From the light complexion to the dark skin complexion, I love every shade of black women. You are all my sisters !! It’s a part of the willie lynch complex and I do not participate in that bs. Stay strong sisters !!
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 am
its a known fact that light skin women are more liked; why even make a “report” about it.
“The entertainment industry has always been Obsessed with fare skin” GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE !!! what entertainment industry? black people in america ( black women that is) simply wanna look lighter because they don’t think being dark is beautiful, THATS A KNOWN FACT. i’s a matter of brainwashing that I really dont know stems from what. and yea BET reinforces that garbage. just look at all their music videos. Look at the BET AWARDS. the whole front row looked light skin, thats becuz black people have been completely MIND RAPED into believeing that they’re inferior, it goes beyond this “industry” bullshit. even tho in black america, your history has always had some sort of light skin to it becuz of the whole slavemater having sex with black women…..
whats sad is that I’m from west africa, where niggaz are dark as fuck. I left there in ‘97. Lived there for 10 years and I think I saw 1 white person over there my whole life. there’s not a single light skin person walking in my hood. anyway long story short, I go back there last summer and all the women looking bleached like michael jackson. putting all sort of skin products on themselves. what the fuck has the world come to? being a black person, looking at that is a slap in the face to me becuz it tells me that our skin colour is wack
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:04 am
Sad that the topic has to be discussed all the time..
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 am
LOL @ having Joy Daily to do this thing, who is LIGHT SKINNED!!!!!
and I checked the video just to see Suelyn and Dollicia!! Hot girls!!
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:31 am
yeah, i am a brown skinned guy. i just like the brown skin women, like the meylessa ford, amber rose, halle berry, stacy dash (ohhh stacy dash). that’s just my specific type tho. I love the dark skin complextion too, bria myles is pretty, a lil too much booty, but still pretty, VANESSA VEASLY. I like the light skin like suelyn & dolicia bryan too.I love all women. i’m into all women, cause they are all beautiful.
U KNOW WHAT THO, I LIKE A BEAUTIFUL WOMAN, I LIKE A PRETTY FACE, I DON’T CARE WHAT SHADE OR COLOR A WOMAN, DARK, LIGHT, WHATEVER, IF SHE’S PRETTY, SHE IS PRETTY, IF NOT , THEN SHE’S NOT.
I WOULD JUST AS EASILY TALK TO A DARK SKIN WOMAN WHO IS BEAUTIFUL BEFORE I TALK TO A BROWN SKIN WOMAN WHO IS EQUALLY THE SAME, IT ALL DEPENDS ON PERSONALITY. CAUSE EVEN THO I LIKE BROWN SKIN, I WOULD PICK THE DARK SKIN WOMEN OVER HER EASILY IF SHE’S MAD COOL.
I DON’T WHAT’S UP WITH THE VIDEO & INDUSTRY STANDARDS STUFF. IT’S LIKE THEY SAY “GO GET WOMAN FROM BRAZIL” I THINK THAT’S WHAT DRAKE DID FOR HIS VIDEO.
i would like to see more dark skinned woman of color tho, it’s getting tuff, WITH EVERY MAGAZINE APPARENTLY GOING OUT OF BUSINESS THO. JEEZ
A SEXY WOMEN IS A SEXY WOMEN, NO MATTER WHAT COLOR SHE IS.
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:10 am
wtf is up with black ppl always trynna ignore the elephant in the room. when its brought up they dont want to talk about it prolly b/c they dont wanna fix it. black ppl are some of the most closed minded ignorant ppl (not more ignorant than whites) they have no problem letting other ppl make their decisions (a lot dont vote and have no desire to). its kinda funny that black comedians make millions off of making fun of black ppl and black ppl just laugh about it. the community needs to fix itself lol but they wont cuz a well….its funny
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:30 am
It is strange, dark skin girls come a dime a dozen. You can line up 25 pretty girls in a line and I bet about 2 of them are dark. Unfortunately, that is the way it seems to be. It is more common to see a pretty light chick..they are everywhere. Then they start looking average..because they are everywhere. That is why so many are chosen if you talk about in the industry, it is the norm
July 3rd, 2009 at 2:32 am
And that is all you see.. That is why it is good to venture to other places..Idk..Africa, Brazil, Jamaica, etc.
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:18 am
great opening to a real topic……
July 3rd, 2009 at 9:43 am
im dark skined but like all diffrent colers of black women light or brown or dark as long as thay look good!!!!!!but i think all african american woman in modeling needs to be treated the same.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:53 am
I think DRAKE is getting all this Hype becuase he is LIGHT SKIN… Fuck that light skin nigga
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
ONLY A HOUSE NEGRO WHO SUFFERS FROM THE ILLUSION OF INCLUSION WILL PICK A LIGHT SKINNED WOMAN OVER A DARK SKINNED WOMAN.IT’S AN ABSOLUTE SHAME TO WITNESS HOW A SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE BLACK MALE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN INTELLECTUALLY FOOLED(BY THE WHITE MAN,WHO ELSE)INTO BELIEVING A WOMAN OF A LIGHTER SKIN COMPLEXION REPRESENTS GREATER SUCCESS IN THE MODERN AMERICAN SOCIETY.
WHEN REALIZATION DAWNS UPON THESE BLACK MEN-THAT IS,WHEN THEY REALIZE THEY WILL NEVER BE CONSIDERED A PART OF AMERICA BY THE WHITE MAN REGARDLESS OF HOW MANY LIGHT SKINNED WOMEN THEY DATE/HOW MUCH FAME OR MONEY THEY ACQUIRE-IT WILL ALL BE TOO LATE.FOR THEN,THEY WILL NOT ONLY HAVE LOST THE EMBRACE OF THE TRUE BLACK COMMUNITY,BUT THEY WILL HAVE SUFFERED IRREVERSIBLE PSYCHOLOGICAL AND EMOTIONAL DAMAGE THAT COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN AVOIDED IF THEY HAD SIMPLY READ A BOOK OR TWO BEFORE EMBARKING ON THEIR ‘QUEST FOR LIGHT’.
ALWAYS REMEMBER: THE WHITE MANS GREATEST FEAR IS A SMART BLACK MAN AND OR WOMAN.YOU AS A BLACK PERSON NEED TO OPEN YOUR EYES AND REALIZE THIS FACT;IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRUCIAL THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO SNIFF OUT THIS FEAR AND RECOGNIZE ALL INSTANCES WHEREIN THE BLACK PERSON IS BEING INTELLECTUALLY SUBJECTED TO ACCEPT A WHITE MANS VIEWS,OPINIONS,ETC.
GO TO YOUTUBE AND WATCH THE “ALWAYS STRAPPED” VIDEO,Q-U-E-S-T-I-O-N WHAT IS BEING PRESENTED TO YOU VISUALLY AND MUSICALLY AND YOU’LL QUICKLY REALIZE THE ALARMING RELATION BETWEEN THAT VIDEO,THIS NEWS POST,AND THIS COMMENT.
AND NOW,I QUESTION WHETHER OR NOT THIS COMMENT WILL MAKE IT THROUGH MODERATION.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
Drake is very talented, but being light will help him in the white market. As for females its def. marketing, they want a girl that can touch all markets.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:29 am
fuck DRAKE go back to yo light skined ass purto rico country!!!!and fuck yo gay music.
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:36 am
#NAPOLEON
WTF are you talking about? Melyssa Ford Halle berry and Amber Rose are all mixed race “lightskinned” women and since when did Vanessa Veasley become darkskinned? lol
July 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
fuck DRAKE go back to yo light skined ass purto rico country!!!!and fuck yo gay music
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Drake is Canadian you fucking idiot and hes half black half white. Get your fact straight before talking shit.
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 pm
rick ross
July 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
It’s sad that this problem has been talked about for a long time yet still persists. We can use the “Best I Ever Had” video as Exhibit A: all the women on his team were light skinned and u couldn’t even tell if they were black or not (of course i know a lot of them weren’t).
But why do directors feel the need to have SO MANY non-black women or make the black women not even look black? They can’t say its to broaden the audience cuz other races been feastin off our culture long before women of other races were in our videos.
http://screwheadsonly.blogspot.com
July 3rd, 2009 at 1:45 pm
besides rick ross
i agreed with #4, personality is the key but that doesnt come into play with these videos and dudes like rick ross with insecurities
July 3rd, 2009 at 8:30 pm
I really hope this piece, the full version, will address how we can improve this problem for the future–not just probe even further an already established idea. The music industry is a microcosm of life–the problems that exists in America are present in the music business, as well. Don’t tell me what the status quo is and why it is what it is: tell me what the plan is to change it.
And, wow, Suelyn is naive if she really thinks that way.
July 3rd, 2009 at 10:50 pm
“i’s a matter of brainwashing that I really dont know stems from what. ”
THE ‘HUMBLE’ BEGINNINGS OF SUCH BRAINWASHING DATES BACK TO WHEN BLACK PEOPLE WERE ENSLAVED BY WHITE PEOPLE.BEING DARK SKINNED BACK THEN MEANT THAT YOU AS A HUMAN BEING WERE INFERIOR TO ALL THOSE AROUND YOU,THIS LAW WAS ESTABLISHED BY(YOU GUESSED IT)THE WHITE MAN OF COURSE.
SO,HOW DOES THIS ^ RELATE TO THE BRAINWASHING?YOU SEE,THE WHITE MAN WAS AND STILL IS A VERY SEXUALLY DRIVEN CREATURE.WHEN THE BLACK MAN COULD DO NOTHING BUT WORK TIRELESSLY FOR THE WHITE MAN IN SHACKLES AND CHAINS,THE WHITE MAN WAS BUSY RAPING AND FORCING HIMSELF ONTO THE BLACK WOMAN.THE BLACK WOMAN WOULD THEN GET PREGNANT AND GIVE BIRTH TO A LIGHT SKINNED BABY.
HERE’S WHERE IT COMES TOGETHER;WHEN(AND IF)THE MULATTO(HALF WHITE-HALF BLACK) WOULD GROW INTO A LIGHT SKINNED WOMAN,SHE WOULD NOT SUFFER THE EXACT SAME FATE THAT THE DARK SKINNED BLACK WOMAN WOULD-BECAUSE SHE WAS CONSIDERED TO BE A SPECIAL KIND OF BLACK.DON’T GET IT TWISTED,SHE WAS STILL A SLAVE LIKE THE REST OF BLACK WOMEN;BUT BECAUSE SHE WAS HALF W-H-I-T-E,SHE WOULD GET PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT BY THE WHITE MAN(BACK THEN PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT WERE THINGS LIKE GETTING WHIPPED 20 TIMES INSTEAD OF 30 TIMES,BEING A HOUSE SLAVE INSTEAD OF A FIELD SLAVE,BEING REWARDED A DRINK OF WATER AFTER 12 HOURS OF WORK INSTEAD OF 15 HOURS OF WORK UNDER THE BLAZING ORANGE SUN,ETC).
YOU SEE,THIS PREFERENTIAL TREATMENT WAS D-E-S-I-R-E-A-B-L-E BY DARK SKINNED WOMEN.THE WHITE MAN QUICKLY REALIZED THIS,AND MADE IT AN EFFORT TO CAPITALIZE ON THIS DESIRE,THE REST IS HISTORY.
July 4th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
noelle wtf! “It is more common to see a pretty light chick..they are everywhere”..where do you live..brown skin black women are everywhere as well, and just as beautiful.open your eyes
July 5th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
She should’ve interviewed the directors and rappers who put the girls in the video. The hoes dont put themselves in the video.
July 6th, 2009 at 1:07 am
The house slaves were treated nicer because they were the master’s children, not because they had light skin.
August 8th, 2009 at 8:49 pm
Since mention was made of the topic of the ‘house’
and the ‘field’ slave — I just wanted to note that
this false concept that so many people have
– that the lighter-complexioned chattel slaves
“had it easier” or “thought they were better”
than the darker-complexioned slaves -– and
/ or largely “relaxed in the big house” while
the darker-complexioned slaves “suffered
in the fields” — is very much (just like the
infamous ‘Willie Lynch Letter’ Hoax) all VERY
MUCH AN URBAN MYTH (and, is one which,
in nearly every way that’s possible, completely
defies the true historical recorded account).
The historical record shows that
those enslaved people who were of a
lighter-complexion (i.e. mulatto-lineage)
and that were found on the continental
United States during the antebellum
(chattel-slavery) era were actually treated
MUCH WORSE than were those enslaved
people who were of a darker-complexion.
In fact, the record shows that most of the White
people (especially the White women) tended
to look upon the lighter-complexioned slaves
as being mere ‘mongrels of miscegenation’
(resulting largely from the rapes caused by the
plantation ‘Overseers’); in their disgust at the
sight of these slaves — insisted that they
be “banished to the fields”; and also then
purposefully reserved most of the ‘big house’
positions (ex. mammy, cook, driver, etc.) for
the darker-complexioned slaves — who most of
the White people had perceived as being “more loyal,
more docile, less competitive, etc.”, and, even more
important, they were also of a skin tone which
could never cause them to be seen as being
any part-’white’ (and even worse, perceived as
“possibly” also being “a member of the family”
–as it were– of a given plantation ‘Owner’).
And this maltreatment was generally even much
more so the case if the lighter-complexioned
enslaved person was even remotely ’suspected’
(by, say, a wife, sister or daughter — who ran “the big
house”, while a ‘male’ family member ran “the plantation”)
of possibly being the offspring of a given plantation
‘Owner’ (or his son, or father, or brother, or any other
male found in the plantation ‘Owners’ White family).
In addition, the few lighter-complexioned enslaved
people that were actually permitted to do any work
in the “big house” were (as a punishment for having
the lowly status of “mongrel” and in order to make sure
that they did not become “too uppity”) kept under a
much more severe work supervision (by both the
White women who ran the plantation household and
also by the darker-complexioned enslaved people
who had been placed over the lighter-complexioned
enslaved people and given various “rewards” in an
exchange for the promise to ‘keep an eye on’ them)
than were most of the (more trusted and seemingly
endeared) darker-complexioned enslaved people.
Books by Deborah Gray White; Paula Giddings; bell
hooks; J. California Cooper; William Wells Brown;
etc. expose the truth about the urban-myth and
show that the lighter-complexioned enslaved
people received NO special treatment and were,
instead (due to being seen as mere “mongrels of
miscegenation”) usually treated much worse than
were most darker-complexioned enslaved people.
The hatred, fear and mistrust that many of the antebellum
and post-antebellum era White southerners felt toward the
people who were both of a light-complexion (mulatto-lineage)
and were also chattel-slaves, is very strongly presented
in the ‘D.W. Griffith’ racist film ‘Birth of a Nation’– where
pretty much all the trouble, tragedy and dangers found
experienced by White southern families in the film is
falsely presented as being caused by “uppity” Mulattoes
who ‘needed to be taught “their place” among White people’.
(i.e. they “needed” to be beaten, raped, lynched, etc. by the
“proud” White people who had been reared to make it clear
that they felt “no connection” to any non-White person).
Related Links:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1602
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/3331
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1399
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1570
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1573
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1402
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1400
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1747
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed/message/1691
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ag4UceOKYaro21HdnN8w.mgjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071103085813AAolWV5
(see ‘best answer’)
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AtORF66bLNbNEjhIPDWC_6MjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20071031122504AArGj8B
(see ‘best answer’)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWIRLinc/message/17634
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SWIRLinc/message/17622
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Generation-Mixed
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MGM-Mixed
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FGM-Mixed
SOURCE:
http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070161&postcount;=13
http://boards.mulatto.org/post/show_single_post?pid=34070414&postcount;=14
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