June 15th, 2009
The Lakers Win The NBA Title, Kobe Bryant Wins One Withot Shaq
The Lakers got a well deserved title, there is no talk of refs cheating. The Lakers just outplayed the Magic and made the clutch plays while the Magic choked. Can the Lakers repeat with Garnet back next year? I’m waiting for Shaq to try and come back to the Lakers.
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June 15th, 2009 at 10:35 am
kobe is the best
we finally did it
a dynasty in the building
wonder wat the haters gotta say now
let me guess “lebron is still the best player, MVp blah blah, & “he did it it gasol odom fisher and ariza”
June 15th, 2009 at 10:40 am
they still suk n overrated..when KG is back its wrap..believe tht…but congrats to tht wanna be like mike but he aint rapist snitch..and congrats to all the punkass Lkrs stans from wherever da hell ya’ll from..holla!
June 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Quick Question…
Why did Kobe Jump up and down exactly how Jordan won his championships.
Dude is a great player… but just stop swaga Jackin Jordan.. Please…
Dude might as well rock Jordans… nobody buying his kicks
IJS (i’m just saying)
June 15th, 2009 at 11:10 am
@#2 Why the HATE? Niggaz were killing me with that BS “lebron this lebron that” Kobe should’ve won that the reg season MVP as well. But its OK ! We got the hardware that we really wanted. The LAKERS are going to the FINALS next season. This team is built to win about 3 or 4 more championships. Cavs are trying to get SHAQ…FAIL ! lol. They need to get carlos boozer from the JAZZ and a good shooting guard. 2009 NBA CHAMPIONS LA LAKERS ! Shout out to all the HATERS(celtics fans, denver nuggets “bandwagon playoffs fans”, cavs fans) Grand opening Grand closing
June 15th, 2009 at 11:24 am
@3 I thought I was the only one that noticed that..hahahaha…
Jim Jones is to Jay-Z as:_______________________
a) Kobe is to Michael Jordan
b) Kobe is to Magic Johnson
c) Kobe is to Wilt Chamberlain
d) Kobe is to Isaiah Thomas
The answer is A.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:34 am
dawg so wat if kobe jump up and down
hes happy get over it
and hes not the only one that does that
June 15th, 2009 at 11:38 am
congrats to Kobe and Lakers – hard work pays off. Kobe can win without Shaq.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:40 am
@#6…no one has an issue that he jumped up and down, the issue is he jumped like Mike did in all his championships…stop being delusional and in denial…seriously dude.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:41 am
White women stay indoors – Happy rapist on the loose
June 15th, 2009 at 11:42 am
My goodness, can people let Kobe and the Lakers celebrate, for real damn, Lebron will get his title soon, but right now the Lakers deserve this, because they worked hard for it, regardless if you like them or not.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:48 am
@ 2 and 3, yall are lame, some of yall talk your emotions and not with logic. Kobe jump up like Jordan – r u serious? i dont think there is a style to celebrate. Teams that are overrated dont win and not worth of the hype and the Lakers are.
June 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
@#9 LMAO
and this final series wuz fukin whack azz fuck!!!!!!!
the finals shoulda been bulls and celtics lol dat wuz a good fukin series right dere!!!!
and as much as i dislike kobe and tha bitch azz lakers i gotta give it 2 em they did their thing
June 15th, 2009 at 11:51 am
Kobe wanna be like Jordan lololol
June 15th, 2009 at 12:09 pm
The Fianls were boring…Orlando was outplayed and out hustled in every game. Still it good for Kobe to win that 4th ring, no more talk of he cant win without Shaq, The Lakers have the caliber to repeat as long as they resign Trevor and Lamar and a shooter to come of the bench that is more reliable.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Its the NBA MEDIA HYPE MACHINE that got everybody saying that KOBE is the next MJ. David Stern got a great product…Bastard.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
took like 8 years fuck kobe…………I DONT WANNA HEAR SHIT FROM THESE NY LAKERS FANS WHEN KNICKS START BUBBLIN
June 15th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
FUCK THE LAKERS,WE’LL GET THEM NEXT TIME
June 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
If Kobe opts out of his contract and make $135M/5 yrs if he re-sign with the LAKERS. But if he opts out and $90M/ 3yrs and that extra money can re-sign trevor and lamar. So basically kobe can take a paycut.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
damn alot of hate on the Lakers..I think Kobe worked hard and accomplished what he wanted..which was to get that monkey off his back – that he couldn’t win w.o shaq…now he can say he did it.period. But no way he’s there with Mike. 2 best players are MJ and MJ (Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson)…I will have those 2 players on my team any day…any day.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Theses dudes on here HATING on the LAKERS…Hope yall dudes get well that HATE FLU is nasty i C lol.
June 15th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Congrats to the Lakers & Kobe, Da&n how much are people looking into him jumpin up and down like jordan? WTF!!!! what is he supposed to do, curl in a ball & roll around on the ground, be forreal man.
Kobe got the best game in the NBA right now, Jordan is Jordan (that’s set in stone) Kobe will never be Jordan, cause he has to be Kobe. get over it.
i would pick him over Lebron, like i said, lebron got talent, but he really just muscles his way to basket. he can be mvp all he wants, I’ll take a ring over that anyday.
I don’t have an NBA team but i was all for Boston last year cause I’m a fan of KG, but i know the Lakers/Cavs/&magic were hoping up & down & spazing the f&ck out when they knew KG was done for the season. Cause still think Boston woulda beat the Lakers in 6 or 7 this year. I like the lakers, don’t get me wrong, but Kg would have made lamar odom curl up in the fetal position like he did last year.
& I would luv to see Shaq sign with the Lakers for at 2 years after next season & end his career their. The Cavs would need a Power Forward to get out of East in the coming seasons, & a taller 2-guard.
Shaq would start over Bynum no doubt, bynum has some potential but it’s shaq. Imagine that.
Kobe,Shaq, Gasol,Ariza,& thier point guard in 2 years. with Odem & bynum coming off the bench, assuming they resign Odom & Ariza.
Shaq will be at that point where prob don’t care how much his contract is & that it is Kobe’s team now, like he did with D-wade in Miami. I would definitly watch those games.
MAYBE’S IT’S ME, BUT THE FINALS WERE NOT AS GOOD AS THEY WERE LAST YEAR. NAH, THEY WEREN’T. THEY SHOULDA EVEN DO A SI “CHAMPIONSHIP RUN FOR THIS YEAR” LOL.
CONGRATS TO THE LAKERS THO.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Lakers the are the favorites to come out the WEST again. Boston is getting old Bulls had them on the ropes in the first round. Since the playoffs are over that was the BEST SERIES Bulls vs Celtics in the 2009 playoffs. It had everything a series should have.
June 15th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Guys – check this Lakers Children’s book out about the 2009 Championship team. I’ve already ordered three for my kid and nephews.
Some 5th grader made it with his dad.
http://www.createspace.com/3387344
Go Lakers!!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
“Hands Down Man Down”
June 15th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
haahah yall some fucking haterz..!! kobes the best..wtf a happen to queen james?? lol o…he didn’t have a good team lol…smh.. excuses excueses..
koooooooooooooooooooooooooobeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! dont ever compare lebron to kobe again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! kb24 finals mvp
June 15th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
even tho it was fun watching tha magic lose, and gettin shitted on by the lakers and hearing them say “we still believe” …lol, when they knew they didn’t have a chance of winning at all …this series was boring …the best game and most exciting out this series was game four …that’s when i seen two teams competing and going at each other.. ..big shot after big shot .. until the last second on the clock ….oh and you can add game 2 also , but other than those 2 games ..this series wasn’t even better than the nuggets / lakers series ….but anyways .. congrads to kobe and the lakers!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Yall are stupid in calling Kobe a rapist. He was set up to get from him and it worked. Support his black ass instead of talking shit! 85% of NBA players cheat or have kids from different women going way back in the days you fuckin morons. Lakers are the best ever, 32 trips to the big show.
June 15th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
@Backlash how can you say they didn’t have a chance at all? the season ended 4-1 with 2 games being overtime losses that means 1 point in 2 games separated it from being 2-3 right now. Magic took down the Cleveland Lebrons and only lost due to some streaky shooting and some Nelson…
check out my crying about the loss at http://www.yovia.com/blogs/timlara
June 15th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Watch next year Nike gonna try to hype up KOBE vs LEBRON again. CAVS got the celtics and magic in there way. Lakers dont have anybody even threating them in the west. Who denver? lmao.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
Kobe’s wife is bad as hell…………TheLakers are going to win it again no doubt. I’m not a Laker’s fan by any means but the western conference can’t f*** with the Laker’s, let’s be real. The Spurs???? Nuggets??? Blazers??? This is a joke. The Cavs aren’t winning it because they couldn’t beat Orlando and were supposed to get swept 4-0 but LeBron hit a lucky game winning shot and Garnett will be healthy next season after missing like 35 games including the playoffs.
June 15th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Ac Holla Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 10:43 am
Quick Question…
Why did Kobe Jump up and down exactly how Jordan won his championships.
Dude is a great player… but just stop swaga Jackin Jordan.. Please…
Dude might as well rock Jordans… nobody buying his kicks
IJS (i’m just saying)
You sound extremely stupid, How the hell do you jump like someone? Also kobe’s sneakers are very popular believe it or not hater…..A black man hating on another black man, go figure
June 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
He won it with out shaq but he had help! Niggaz be actin like this nigga carries his team his self! He will always need a good amount of help to win a championship! The only year he carried his team was the year they was the 8th seed! So that shows you what happenes when hes carryin the team! He won it lebron didn’t that don’t mean he better! The last time I checked the way you jude if a player is better then another is by what they do induvidualy to help the team! Put lebron on the lakers & everything lebron did individualy this year to make the cavs better would have lead the lakers to a easy sweep through every team in the west! Niggaz don’t know Basketball! A bunch of tv watchin & video game playin fans! And kobe jock riuders is just lookin for another jordan story through this nigga! Lebron ain’t even my favorite player & I can tell he does alot more on the court!
June 15th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Pippen and Jordan= 6 Rings
Jordan by himself= No rings
Pippen by himself= No rings
Shaq and Kobe= 3 Rings
Shaq and Wade= 1 Ring
Wade by himself= No rings
Shaq without great perimeter players= No rings
Kobe and Gasol = 1 Ring
Kobe by himself= No rings
You hatin ass niggas get the point!!!
June 15th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
…. shaqs retiring soon
June 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Hahaha i thought it. Shaq and Kobe need…Big Shot Rob actually think about all them big shot he took to save the lakers from getting beat in the playoffs. Robert Horry people !
June 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Rexx Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 3:59 pm
Put lebron on the lakers & everything lebron did individualy this year to make the cavs better would have lead the lakers to a easy sweep through every team in the west! Niggaz don’t know Basketball! A bunch of tv watchin & video game playin fans!
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R u high homie come on. When Lebron took them to the finals there team wasnt that good( mind u the east is very weak). Then this year you start the season off with Mo, Delonte, Joe smith, Wally, Big Ben plus u stll have Z, gibson, varejao and pavlovic. Without those trades the cavs would have been super duper booty, that’s why they were hyped up so much and they still couldnt win. Kobe went to the finals lost and came back with the same team and won. So nigga stop hating. Let’s face it Kobe is a leader, Bron is not.
June 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
He could of did plenty of other things besides jump up & down like jordan! Nobody but jordan ever did dat same exact jump! Now what about all the other people who won championships? What did they do? Not what jordan did! This is just the icing on the cake it’s official…he really wants 2 be mike! Not like him! He on mike nuts more then Mikes boxers! Smh & I like kobe!
June 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
lol @ marty mcfly
Lebron was young! His team was shyt & he carried them this year! Plus the only nice niggaz on the squad besides bron was all below 6′5! Kobe had help from almost every player that came on the floor! Gasol,Odom,Ariza,fisher,vujachic,Bynum, & that other point guard! Lebron is a better team player! Kobe is a better leader! But his team don’t even need him on the floor to play good! Lebron not on the floor they start choking & losing the lead! Kobe came back & won with a team that was more use to gasol! Gasol adds a extra 20 points! And now that he trust to give da ball to odom he playin better to! So nigga stop sack riding! U sack riding a nigga dats sack riding another nigga!
June 15th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Shaq won his first with out kobe! Kobe a snitch! He rape white women! He got 2 pieced by Chris childs! He got choked out by regie miller on the scores table! yea im goin in, it got nothin 2 do with nothin but so what!! Lmao Kobe nice but stop wit them like mike stories! Stop gargalin his sack!
June 15th, 2009 at 5:14 pm
can anyone see the headlines 5 years from now “Can Lebron win it without Shaq?” lmao here we go again
June 15th, 2009 at 5:28 pm
# Rexx Says:
June 15th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
lol @ marty mcfly
Lebron was young! His team was shyt & he carried them this year! Plus the only nice niggaz on the squad besides bron was all below 6?5! Kobe had help from almost every player that came on the floor! Gasol,Odom,Ariza,fisher,vujachic,Bynum, & that other point guard! Lebron is a better team player! Kobe is a better leader! But his team don’t even need him on the floor to play good! Lebron not on the floor they start choking & losing the lead! Kobe came back & won with a team that was more use to gasol! Gasol adds a extra 20 points! And now that he trust to give da ball to odom he playin better to! So nigga stop sack riding! U sack riding a nigga dats sack riding another nigga!
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Lebron was YOUNG????? That nigga been in the league for six years, if that’s your excuse then i dont feel sorry for that nigga he should have went to college if that’s the case. How was his team shit when they had the best record, the MVP and the coach of the year!!!!????? That’s the Cavs fault for not getting the proper players, they knew Orlando and Boston were going to be a problem so why not prepare, cuz they thought LEbron was jesus himself. Gasol adds a extra 20 points so what has mo williams been doing all season????? It’s not about giving Odom the ball, that nigga has never played to his full potential since he been in the NBA, the nigga is hot and cold. So with all that said i can tell u really dont watch ball.
June 15th, 2009 at 6:43 pm
ALL THE HATERS…….BE QUIET!!!! Kobe is the best player in the NBA right now. Top 5 all time ever!! All the Lebron fans like my man REXX with the fantasy Lebron championships and the hate in your words for THE MAMBA aka THE CLOSER…..SLOW DOWN. Kobe works harder than any player in the league. He wanted it more than any player and now he’s SITTING ON TOP looking down at you haters!!
Shaq…how does Kobe’s ass taste?? Like gold baby!
June 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
lebron fans are tight lol. everybody kno he aint fukin wit kobe get over it.
June 15th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
r yall serious saying he swagga jak jordan
do u really think he was thinking about that at that moment
hes just happy
kobe deserve it man
ps kobe wife is bad
June 15th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
Rexx needs to take LeBron’s penis out of his mouth and stop making excuses for the cavs choking in the clutch………LeBron isn’t getting a championship anytime soon and i also like king James. Kobe is taking home championship number 5 next season
June 15th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
Also did anyone hear about old ass Shaq going to Cleveland??? This trade is a joke. If it was Amare Stoudemire than i can say Cleveland is going to get it poppin next year, but Shaq??? Get real, this fool only has about 1-2 years at max left in him. It’s a wrap for Shaq o’neal
June 15th, 2009 at 10:14 pm
Keywords in this post
”Haters, Lebron, Jordan, Superman Hip Hop Fan”
Get the fuck over yourselves Laker fans, great team but the worst fans in sports period, saying the same shit over and over again
June 16th, 2009 at 12:05 am
All the haters need to sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up. Kobe and the Lakers did their thing point blank period. The Magic was out of their element and choked. Plain and simple. They got a ROOKIE guarding Kobe fucking Bryant and then have that same rookie in a position to be making game winning shoots??…..Get the fuck outta here. Then they have the supposed leader of the team clanking game-ending free throws like he shooting 30lb bricks. This was one of the lamest finals probably since the Cavs got swept that one year. It was the Lakers title to win and that’s exactly what they did. I see that franchise having another 3-peat. Mark my words.
June 16th, 2009 at 12:06 am
@#47 Clipz stop hating relax lil nigga
June 16th, 2009 at 2:49 am
2 (Marty Mcfly)
lebron as in for 6 years & accomplished more then kobe did at his age & he will continue! Plus lebron can carry a team with little help by his self further then kobe can! Lebron make average players look better then they are! Kobe just tell encourage great players to play harder with out! Mo adds about 20 to but who else puts in work every night with lebron! Everybody else gets scrap points! Lets not forget all they big men is Weak! All they other good players is small & play bigger niggaz!! Kobe has other player beside gasol who put in work every night! Odom, Ariza, & Fisher! Thats a starting 5 of players who can give you more than 15 each! I watch ball & play ball! I play you for ya computer nigga!
2 (JerseyCityStandUp)
Jersey city shut up I don’t even think lebron the best so stop suckin me off! Nigga u all on mine & kobe! You a selfish dick rider! Pick 1! I like both kobe & lebron but to me Wade betta then Both these niggas! He won his Championship wit a bunch of old & washed up players who retired da next year & the rest was all role players That didn’t even average 10! Cavs did choke lebron didn’t! What happen when kobe choked & then gave up in the finals last year! Lebron or wade never did dat!
June 16th, 2009 at 4:04 am
Rexx Says:
June 16th, 2009 at 2:49 am
Plus lebron can carry a team with little help by his self further then kobe can! Lebron make average players look better then they are! Kobe just tell encourage great players to play harder with out!
Kobe has other player beside gasol who put in work every night! Odom, Ariza, & Fisher!
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So if lebron has a better team than last year and can carry a team with little help, how come they aint win??????? So if lebron make average players look better, how come they aint beat orlando?????? Lebron had other players too, how do u think they had the best record this year because of lebron??????NO……because they got people that could play around him, just like kobe. U take LA and put them in the east they will be first, u take clevland to the west they wont be top 4. Face it the west has way more comp, the east is really weak. Take away Boston, Orlando and the cavs from the east and u got a conference with cupcake teams. I like lebron but all the numbers and shit mean nothing without the hardware. U cant sit here and say u didnt think cavs were going to win it all this year with all the hype around them. They would have beat Orlando if bron went to the hole more instead of shooting all those jump shots…..IMO before u start hating.
June 16th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
smh @ rexx naming all of Le’Brons early accomplishments………..Did Le’Bron win a championship yet??? NO!!!! You can break every nba record known to man but if you don’t bring home the championship it’s pointless. You play in the NBA to win the grand prize and that’s to bring the trophy back home and get your team in the rafters that says “champions”…Kobe has 4 championship rings and Le’Bron has you guessed it “ZERO!!!”. Don’t go with that “Le’Bron has accomplished more than Kobe bulls*** because kobe wins championships and Le’Bron doesn’t, and it’s simple. Stop making excuses bringing up stats.
June 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
im not talking about championships if you pay attention! Im talking about who better as a INDIVIDUAL! All you kobe fans only have 1 argument when it come 2 him championships! It’s the same championships that he won due to a GREAT amount of help! He had shaq when he was the most dominate player alive & a bunch of other players who helped including fisher who helped this year! Every championship dats won is won due to a Great team effort! Stop using that as a cop out for why kobe is the best! Last time I checked it takes the whole team & a Coach to win a championship! Kobe damn sure never did it by his self or came klouse to it by his self! Lebron has gotten close with what lil help he has! If he had a team that put in the effort like kobe had & has He would of won it! So at the end of the Day it takes a team not a player to win a championship!! So stop using dat cop out to call him the best! I compare the two individuals talents & all the things they do to make their team better & lebron does more! Lets see what kind of stupid cop out or excuse you have now!
June 16th, 2009 at 5:21 pm
if you are braking more individual records then other players by playing your game! That makes your game more complete! that makes you a better all around player! If your putting up more numbers in all categories than another individual & you play smart in the process you are a better player! Jordan out shined every body & won championships & put in the work with out slacking all the time! Kobe doesn’t out shine everybody, he wins championships, he puts in work on offense slacks on defense some times! Plus lebron came in a team player & kobe had to learn it more recently when shaq left! And he still wasn’t happy with his team up until last year! He cried every year when it wasn’t working & he was puttin up nothin but points chucking after shaq left! And still I think wade is better then both of them he has the best parts of both of their games!
June 16th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
marty mcfly
They would of won if lebron went to the whole more! Only if the whole orlando team wasn’t waiting for him! He was doing all the work all game! He is human he does get tired! Never seen kobe put up numbers all across the board on a team that wasn’t helping him much! He would of Cried about it! Plus he can’t do it! Only occasionaly somebody else would score & that was most likely mo will or d west! The east is weak! There was only three teams in the east that could play in the west! You act like they never see the west coast at all! They do play the west during the regular season! The people who play around kobe are bigger & can create their own shots with out kobe! The people around lebron need lebron to draw the attention to get their points! Thats why he makes them better by making plays for the whole team besides mo will! The lakers players never need kobe to set them up! Gasol,odom,Ariza & fisher all could score with out help or being set up! all iso players that can give you more than 15 and 20! Who else can handle they own beside mo & maybe delonte on the cavs? So Before you suck on kobe ball sack analyize the game a little better & pay attention to how the players play & how the team plays with & with out them!
June 16th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
rexx
All i’m really trying to say is that when lebron was doing good everybody and there moms was like the cavs are the truth, there going to take the championship, blah, blah, blah. They were the best team in the nba, swept two teams but as soon as they dont beat orlando, Lebron aint have no help and niggas just start making mad excuses, all there games were close except for 2 games and even then they didnt get blown out. If it was kobe niggas would have hated and said kobe choked, not this that and the thrid. When the cavs were in the regular season and rounds 1-2 niggas werent saying the team is too small or they dont have the pieces.
June 16th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
yea everybody was making excuses! But the truth is they never were really that good to begin with it all worked through lebron! He made them all look good all year! If kobe would have done what lebron did all year & what he did against the magic & still lost I would of never said kobe choked! It was the rest of the team that choked! Lebron made them all look like sumthin! So what the magic did was lock every body else up! by letting lebron go to work! The magic played man defense alot! Cause they knew the only one who would get buckets on them consistantly was lebron! So everybody else was on smash! Only mo & west would score on they own & that was barley! But my whole argument is lebron is a more complete player then kobe! Saying kobe is better is like saying half of sumthing is better then a whole! Usualy more is better! Complete is the best! Who want’s a smaller portion of something when they could have more?
June 16th, 2009 at 8:48 pm
Rexx
I feel what your saying. I think lebron is a hell of a player same with kobe. There both different. Kobe is more intense, better leader and higher skill set. Lebron makes those around him better, he’s explosive, plays both ends of the floor. Your right they did need gibson, wally, smith and others to step up no doubt. I agree his all around game is better then kobe, but i think kobe is better offensively. And i only say that because he doesnt need to be flashy to be effective. But hands down D Wade should have been MVP, how he came back from that injury and balled his heart out on a sub par team. Olympics he was beast and this season more of the same.
June 16th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
Now we seein eye to eye! Kobe is better then lebron offensively cause he has a way better shot! But lebron has a lil more of everything else! They really did rob wade He had nothin to work with & he did everything for them! I didn’t wanna make it seem like I was just hating on kobe because I think he is 1 of the top Three players in the league! nobody is better then him,wade & lebron! They stand out! But alot of people fall into kobe hype more because he modeled his game after jordan! People always jude an individual by what their team is doing! But the team is a whole! You judge the person by what they do for their team & how they make them better!