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weezy heayweight champ of tha world. kanye lost in the title match. em and jay could be on the heavyweight ballot but arent for lack of material recently
50 and ross middleweights
kudi and ace hood lightweight
asher and b.o.b is featherweight
I’d give it to Lil’ wayne, then Kanye then Em…I’d put Em first but his new material just started coming out and they hot but there has to be a waitin period before that accessment can be made. Jay comes after them but rite now it’s Weezy…just go listen to Ignorant Shit wit Drake and you’ll know what I’m talking about.
How the hell can anyone say Kanye is a middleweight, that shit don’t make any sense at all? Whether you like him or not the dude is everywhere and is an international star nowadays. So if we’re going to talk about weightclasses then he’s definitely a heavyweight….just like 50 Jay and Em.
I co-sign Kanye. I would put him b4 T.I. Lil Wayne cuz Ye is a musician he branched further than just rap w/o even tryin. IMO Lil Wayne is up there ONLY if U accumulate his achievements. (singles,sellin a milli,grammys, being able to make a rock album) U have 2 give him his due. BUT as a HIPHOP HEAD him as a lyricist/MC/his flow as da success came he has DIGRESSED (or maybe dumbed it waaaay down…idk). He went from makin singles like Fire Man/Hustler Music to Lollipop?? Real Niggas see it. So if JD talkin bout Heavyweights in terms of success Wayne up There No Doubt. BUT if we Talkin bout a TRUE HIPHOP HEAVYWEIGHT…No
Kanye is the undisputed champ. Now that he off that autotune shit it ain’t safe for no other rapper in the game. If you listen to his latest verses its not even a question.
Yo no disrepect, but I hate it when people say shit like #9 says…dont’ get me wrong, I am all about lyrical content, but niggas like Dead Prez and the Clipse are irrelevant in this conversation. If you understand the business of Music…you will realize that BUSINESS wise…these dudes dont have what it takes…they can probably outrap some of your favorite rappers, but they will NEVER be considered some of the G.O.A.T. in hip hop. No one is looking to Dead Prez and saying, “oh i gotta get on their level”….they’re probably saying “who the hell are they”.
Lets try to keep it in the context of the conversation. As far as heavyweights…Top five
Kanye
Jay
Lil Wayne
Nas
Eminem
1.) Kanye got the whole fucking world wearing tight shit and still considered fly…plus whether u wanna except it or not…he’s lyrical and he’s outselling everyone
2.)Jay is in a league of his own…no explaination needed
3.) Lil wayne is still having the entire music industry on his nuts (pause) and wanting him on a record…Dolly Parton wants to do a record with this nigga..lol
4.) Nas is in the top 3 greatest lyricists of all time…now that Obama is in office…everyone seems to want Nas on a record, when just a few years ago…everyone hated him when he dropped HHID
5.) Eminem can eat 95% of the industry and you know he’s gonna do big numbers when he drops..not a milli in the first week…but close…I’d say in the range of 750k – 900k
Interesting cocept. But I think weightclasses should be comparable to skill level period. Not business unless you work in the business and you’re getting paid. Why should those numbers matter to you? Anyway, some names apear twice, because of the fickle nature of said artist’s performances:
HW:Jay, Eminem, Immortal Technique, Lupe, NAS, Royce, Crooked I,
LHW: KRS(kinda fell off due to age ) Ludacris, Dead Prez, TErmanology, Jadakiss
MW:TI, Kanye, Kid Cudi, BOB, Lil Wayne, 50 cent,Drake, Rick Ross(based on most recent album), Asher Roth, Wale
LW:Nelly, Fabolus, Asher Roth
Featherweight: Souljaboy, Gucci Mane, OJ da Juiceman, Plies, Jeezy, Shawty Lo, Dj Khaled
Wayne,Kanye,Jay, and 50 but he’s slippin. JD right now there is no rapping going on its straight singing bottom line. If those to legends was still here these niggas wouldnt make it past go.
I dont understand how its possbile to get pissed off at someone who write comments on blogs…but dammit it happened to me! Yo I just went on the long ass rant about how not to use irrelevant MC’s in this conversation, then stupid ass #21 goes and does it anyway!!
Again, no disrepect to the artists…but no one is looking at a fucking IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE, CROOKED I, ROYCE DA 5′9″, TERMANOLODY (seriously…what the fuck), even the GREAT KRS-ONE…nobody is checking for these dudes…get with it ppl! Call me a hater or whatever you want…but you know this shit is true…how many of yall are rushing to the store (or even consider downloading) an Immortal Technique album??? But at the same time…how many of yall are already predicting what numbers Jay is gonna do when he drops BP3??
See Jay Gets Busy that’s how people start shit smh lmao. Look bruh, I don’t give a fuck about the next rapper’s numbers. I wanna keep up with who got the talent and who doesn’t. Jay-z is relevant because of his legend, as is Eminem, but one could argue they have fallen off heavily from their hey days.
HANDS DOWN……Underated and Highly rated AT THE VERY SAME TIME!!!!!
He is a Lightheavy Weight waiting to step up a weight class.
He is a Lightheavy Weight for TWO MAINS REASONS ALONE….
(1) BEING HES SKILL ON THE M.I.C
(2) HES BODY OF WORK (PAUSE..lol)….two Dope albums:
a. Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor (Classic…PERIOD)
b. Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool (Near Classic)
(Sorry about the caps lock typing……)
NOW I CAN TYPE ALL THIS ON HERE KNOWNING FULLY WELL THAT JD AND THE REST OF DEM HEADZ WONT READ THIS OR EVEN IF THEY DO THEY WONT COMMENT ON IT….MAINLY BECAUSE JD DOESN’T SEEM TO RESPECT:
(1) GOOD LYRICAL HONESTY….
(2) DOPE LYRICAL RHYMES…AND
(3) DOPE LYRICAL CONCEPT RECORDS
IF YOU (JD….) DID THEN….AN ARTIST LIKE LUPE FIASCO WOULD BE THE ONE OF THE FIRST NAMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WHEN TALKING ABOUT GOOD HIP HOP MUSIC.
CASE IN POINT:
(1) FROM Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor:
a. He Say She Say
b. The Cool
c. Hurt Me Soul
d. Kick Push
e. American Terrorist
f. The Emperor’s Soundtrack
g. Daydreamin [feat. Jill Scott]
h. Pressure [feat. Jay-Z]
(Just to name a few)
(2) FROM Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool:
a. The Coolest
b. Superstar [feat. Matthew Santos]
c. Put You On Game
d. Streets On Fire
e. Intruder Alert [feat. Sarah Green]
f. Dumb It Down [feat. Gemstones & Graham Burris]
g. Little Weapon [feat. Bishop G & Nikki Jean]
h. The Die [feat. Gemstones]
ohhhhhh and (in my best DJ Clue voice) “Do Remember…”:
Hov, Jay-Z, Jigga, Sean Carter……….Executive Produced Lupe’s Debut….Ahh who cares….JD Doesnt!!!!!!!!
ohhhhhh and (in my best DJ Clue voice) “Do Remember…”:
Hes 1/3 of CRS a group whos other members incluse Kanye West & Pharrell Williams.
ohhhhhh and (in my best DJ Clue voice) “Do Remember…”:
In an interview with ‘Blender’ magazine Hov said the following:
“…..I love Lupe. He’s a genius writer. In his approach to making music and the depth of his lyrics, the guy is incredibly smart. I’m sure he goes over people’s heads, but I love him for that.”
(Sorry about the caps lock typing……again)
I WILL GO OUT ON THE LIM AND SAY THAT JD & THE REST OF DEM PROBABLY HATE LUPE, NOT ONLY THAT THEY WILL WITHOUT A DOUBT TAKE THE PISS OUT OF HIM……SHAME REALLY BUT WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM AND AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO PROBABLY HAS NEVER BEEN TO THE MOTHERLAND HA! (OFF TOPIC SHOT…)
Lupe Fiasso is the Truth……FUCK THE SALES…WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT THE MUSIC.
LETS BE HONEST Lupe would SHIT on Q Da Kid……..
I DARE YOU…JD NOT TO COMMENT ON MY POST…I DARE YOU. HA!
(No…serious/e-Gangster shots lool)
Signing Out…..BLK LDN.
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April 28th, 2009 at 7:17 pm
I THINK KANYE WEST IS THE HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION BUT WHEN JAY-Z DROPS BLUEPRINT 3 ITS OVER WITH THE QUESTION WHO IS THE HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMP!
April 28th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
fuck jay z and the blue print 3
em is taking back his spot
April 28th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
weezy heayweight champ of tha world. kanye lost in the title match. em and jay could be on the heavyweight ballot but arent for lack of material recently
50 and ross middleweights
kudi and ace hood lightweight
asher and b.o.b is featherweight
April 28th, 2009 at 7:33 pm
@2, NOT WITH THAT CRAP!
April 28th, 2009 at 7:34 pm
lil wayne
kanye west
T.I
remember people this is based on hype, skill and relevancy in the past 6 months
and ofcourse Jay and Em when the album drop
-Aruba
April 28th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
kanye west is the heavy weight champ of the world. LOL.. eminem (w/ that recent garbage) will get hatton’ed.
jay-z – ali / tyson.
lil wayne – a little mayweather`ish.
fabolous – fucking zab “harlem shake” juda.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:52 pm
ll cool j – evander holyfield. hahahahahahahaha..
April 28th, 2009 at 7:55 pm
I’d give it to Lil’ wayne, then Kanye then Em…I’d put Em first but his new material just started coming out and they hot but there has to be a waitin period before that accessment can be made. Jay comes after them but rite now it’s Weezy…just go listen to Ignorant Shit wit Drake and you’ll know what I’m talking about.
April 28th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Its not based on hype
just skill and talent
So Kanye, Nas, JayZ, Kiss, Lupe, T.I., The Clipse Dead Prez and Common are heavyweights
Kanye got the belt at the moment
Check the verses
Plz dont name SB, ross, bow wow wayne gucci or plies they cant compete on a LYRICAL level
April 28th, 2009 at 8:05 pm
HEAVYWEIGHTS-50 CENT,EMINEM,JAY-Z.
MIDDLEWEIGHTS-KANYE WEST,LIL WAYNE,T.I,
LIGHTWEIGHTS-YOUNG JEEZY,THE GAME,BOW WOW.
NOBODY COMES CLOSE TO THE ABOVE HEAVYWEIGHTS IN TERMS OF REVENUE AND POPULARITY I-N-T-E-R-N-A-T-I-O-N-A-L-L-Y.NO ONE.
I FULLY EXPECT NEGROES THAT HAVEN’T STEPPED FOOT OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES TO DICK RIDE LOCAL ACTS THAT WILL NEVER GENERATE $2,000,000+ A SHOW.
April 28th, 2009 at 8:28 pm
Kanye got the title he mudered lil wayne on graduation he murdered lil wayne on lolipop remix soo kanye is better than wayne in my opinion
April 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
How the hell can anyone say Kanye is a middleweight, that shit don’t make any sense at all? Whether you like him or not the dude is everywhere and is an international star nowadays. So if we’re going to talk about weightclasses then he’s definitely a heavyweight….just like 50 Jay and Em.
April 28th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
I co-sign Kanye. I would put him b4 T.I. Lil Wayne cuz Ye is a musician he branched further than just rap w/o even tryin. IMO Lil Wayne is up there ONLY if U accumulate his achievements. (singles,sellin a milli,grammys, being able to make a rock album) U have 2 give him his due. BUT as a HIPHOP HEAD him as a lyricist/MC/his flow as da success came he has DIGRESSED (or maybe dumbed it waaaay down…idk). He went from makin singles like Fire Man/Hustler Music to Lollipop?? Real Niggas see it. So if JD talkin bout Heavyweights in terms of success Wayne up There No Doubt. BUT if we Talkin bout a TRUE HIPHOP HEAVYWEIGHT…No
April 28th, 2009 at 10:11 pm
did Piggy Ross just put 50 cent in a bracket with Jay-Z and Eminem?
April 28th, 2009 at 10:38 pm
DID A DUMB BITCH JUST QUESTION THE CAPS LOCK MONSTER™?
April 28th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Kanye is the undisputed champ. Now that he off that autotune shit it ain’t safe for no other rapper in the game. If you listen to his latest verses its not even a question.
April 28th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
HEAVYWEIGHTS
1. Jay-Z
2. Kanye West
3. Eminem
4. Nas
5. 50 Cent
LIGHT-HEAVYWEIGHTS
1. Fabolous
2. Jadakiss
3. Lil Wayne
4. Joe Budden
5. The Game
Who Would Wanna Go Into A Lyrical Battle With Anybody In These Weight Classes
NOBODY!. POINT BLANK PERIOD
April 28th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
MIDDLEWEIGHTS
1. Lupe
2. Drake
3. Cassidy
4. Red Cafe
5. Lloyd Banks
April 28th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
Yo no disrepect, but I hate it when people say shit like #9 says…dont’ get me wrong, I am all about lyrical content, but niggas like Dead Prez and the Clipse are irrelevant in this conversation. If you understand the business of Music…you will realize that BUSINESS wise…these dudes dont have what it takes…they can probably outrap some of your favorite rappers, but they will NEVER be considered some of the G.O.A.T. in hip hop. No one is looking to Dead Prez and saying, “oh i gotta get on their level”….they’re probably saying “who the hell are they”.
Lets try to keep it in the context of the conversation. As far as heavyweights…Top five
Kanye
Jay
Lil Wayne
Nas
Eminem
1.) Kanye got the whole fucking world wearing tight shit and still considered fly…plus whether u wanna except it or not…he’s lyrical and he’s outselling everyone
2.)Jay is in a league of his own…no explaination needed
3.) Lil wayne is still having the entire music industry on his nuts (pause) and wanting him on a record…Dolly Parton wants to do a record with this nigga..lol
4.) Nas is in the top 3 greatest lyricists of all time…now that Obama is in office…everyone seems to want Nas on a record, when just a few years ago…everyone hated him when he dropped HHID
5.) Eminem can eat 95% of the industry and you know he’s gonna do big numbers when he drops..not a milli in the first week…but close…I’d say in the range of 750k – 900k
Hate it or love it…this shit is Gospel!
April 29th, 2009 at 1:48 am
Interesting cocept. But I think weightclasses should be comparable to skill level period. Not business unless you work in the business and you’re getting paid. Why should those numbers matter to you? Anyway, some names apear twice, because of the fickle nature of said artist’s performances:
HW:Jay, Eminem, Immortal Technique, Lupe, NAS, Royce, Crooked I,
LHW: KRS(kinda fell off due to age
) Ludacris, Dead Prez, TErmanology, Jadakiss
MW:TI, Kanye, Kid Cudi, BOB, Lil Wayne, 50 cent,Drake, Rick Ross(based on most recent album), Asher Roth, Wale
LW:Nelly, Fabolus, Asher Roth
Featherweight: Souljaboy, Gucci Mane, OJ da Juiceman, Plies, Jeezy, Shawty Lo, Dj Khaled
April 29th, 2009 at 2:11 am
DRAKE IZ THE # 1 CONTENDER FOR THE HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMPION!
IF NOT THEN HE IZ THE FUCKIN HEAVY WEIGHT CHAMP!
April 29th, 2009 at 2:41 am
Wayne,Kanye,Jay, and 50 but he’s slippin. JD right now there is no rapping going on its straight singing bottom line. If those to legends was still here these niggas wouldnt make it past go.
April 29th, 2009 at 7:03 am
about drake fuck outta here wit that shit
April 29th, 2009 at 2:49 pm
I dont understand how its possbile to get pissed off at someone who write comments on blogs…but dammit it happened to me! Yo I just went on the long ass rant about how not to use irrelevant MC’s in this conversation, then stupid ass #21 goes and does it anyway!!
Again, no disrepect to the artists…but no one is looking at a fucking IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE, CROOKED I, ROYCE DA 5′9″, TERMANOLODY (seriously…what the fuck), even the GREAT KRS-ONE…nobody is checking for these dudes…get with it ppl! Call me a hater or whatever you want…but you know this shit is true…how many of yall are rushing to the store (or even consider downloading) an Immortal Technique album??? But at the same time…how many of yall are already predicting what numbers Jay is gonna do when he drops BP3??
kick rocks WTF
April 29th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
See Jay Gets Busy that’s how people start shit smh lmao. Look bruh, I don’t give a fuck about the next rapper’s numbers. I wanna keep up with who got the talent and who doesn’t. Jay-z is relevant because of his legend, as is Eminem, but one could argue they have fallen off heavily from their hey days.
May 1st, 2009 at 2:36 am
Why Is Soulja Boy Even Being Named???? Why??.. If People Put His Wack Ass In A Category Then Hip Hop Is Really Dead!!
May 5th, 2009 at 7:54 am
Lupe Fiasco
HANDS DOWN……Underated and Highly rated AT THE VERY SAME TIME!!!!!
He is a Lightheavy Weight waiting to step up a weight class.
He is a Lightheavy Weight for TWO MAINS REASONS ALONE….
(1) BEING HES SKILL ON THE M.I.C
(2) HES BODY OF WORK (PAUSE..lol)….two Dope albums:
a. Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor (Classic…PERIOD)
b. Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool (Near Classic)
(Sorry about the caps lock typing……)
NOW I CAN TYPE ALL THIS ON HERE KNOWNING FULLY WELL THAT JD AND THE REST OF DEM HEADZ WONT READ THIS OR EVEN IF THEY DO THEY WONT COMMENT ON IT….MAINLY BECAUSE JD DOESN’T SEEM TO RESPECT:
(1) GOOD LYRICAL HONESTY….
(2) DOPE LYRICAL RHYMES…AND
(3) DOPE LYRICAL CONCEPT RECORDS
IF YOU (JD….) DID THEN….AN ARTIST LIKE LUPE FIASCO WOULD BE THE ONE OF THE FIRST NAMES OUT OF YOUR MOUTH WHEN TALKING ABOUT GOOD HIP HOP MUSIC.
CASE IN POINT:
(1) FROM Lupe Fiasco’s Food & Liquor:
a. He Say She Say
b. The Cool
c. Hurt Me Soul
d. Kick Push
e. American Terrorist
f. The Emperor’s Soundtrack
g. Daydreamin [feat. Jill Scott]
h. Pressure [feat. Jay-Z]
(Just to name a few)
(2) FROM Lupe Fiasco’s The Cool:
a. The Coolest
b. Superstar [feat. Matthew Santos]
c. Put You On Game
d. Streets On Fire
e. Intruder Alert [feat. Sarah Green]
f. Dumb It Down [feat. Gemstones & Graham Burris]
g. Little Weapon [feat. Bishop G & Nikki Jean]
h. The Die [feat. Gemstones]
ohhhhhh and (in my best DJ Clue voice) “Do Remember…”:
Hov, Jay-Z, Jigga, Sean Carter……….Executive Produced Lupe’s Debut….Ahh who cares….JD Doesnt!!!!!!!!
ohhhhhh and (in my best DJ Clue voice) “Do Remember…”:
Hes 1/3 of CRS a group whos other members incluse Kanye West & Pharrell Williams.
ohhhhhh and (in my best DJ Clue voice) “Do Remember…”:
In an interview with ‘Blender’ magazine Hov said the following:
“…..I love Lupe. He’s a genius writer. In his approach to making music and the depth of his lyrics, the guy is incredibly smart. I’m sure he goes over people’s heads, but I love him for that.”
(Sorry about the caps lock typing……again)
I WILL GO OUT ON THE LIM AND SAY THAT JD & THE REST OF DEM PROBABLY HATE LUPE, NOT ONLY THAT THEY WILL WITHOUT A DOUBT TAKE THE PISS OUT OF HIM……SHAME REALLY BUT WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM AND AFRICAN AMERICAN WHO PROBABLY HAS NEVER BEEN TO THE MOTHERLAND HA! (OFF TOPIC SHOT…)
Lupe Fiasso is the Truth……FUCK THE SALES…WHAT THE FUCK ABOUT THE MUSIC.
LETS BE HONEST Lupe would SHIT on Q Da Kid……..
I DARE YOU…JD NOT TO COMMENT ON MY POST…I DARE YOU. HA!
(No…serious/e-Gangster shots lool)
Signing Out…..BLK LDN.