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		<title>By: Whaaat?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Whaaat?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thats why this world will continue with racism. I honestly see people who are willing to not partake in racism as a sign of maturity and something people who like to hate, are lacking. People who aren&#039;t willing to take steps forward and only want to bask in the hardships of the past, despite the steps forward we&#039;ve taken, will be part of the reason for racism always existing.

#27Likeabite: your generalizations are too broad. Ive seen plenty of white women and men abused by police who are white as well. Why must everything be a racial issue? And maybe the man who punched the black woman in the face WAS racist but does that generalize the whole population? Not really, because it doesnt generalize me..

Isiah: I read your post, several times. What I take from it is that you&#039;re saying that white people who voted for Obama because he was the most qualified person for the job, and NOT simply because he was black, makes them racist. And if so, that&#039;s a completely asinine statement to make. Not asking for props for voting for Obama on my end by the way, I simply did what I felt was right.

You said I deduce people who voted for Obama soley because he was black, and that would be correct. That&#039;s not a good reason to vote someone into office. Although it&#039;s completely acceptable to be proud of voting for him because he is a black man, (why can&#039;t I call him white by the way? His mother was a white woman, so it shouldn&#039;t be a black/white issue with him.) your sole reason for voting for this man should not be according to the color of his skin.

You also mentioned you think I believe black people voted for Obama because he is black as well and not because he was the qualified candidate. This is true. I am generalizing the people who have actually TOLD me this was the reason they voted for him. Not because of what I hear through the grapevine.

As a white individual, I believe every black person should feel they have the same opportunity for advancement and equality in this country/world as anyone. I, myself am not racist, but I find it hard when I hear comments like some of the ones I&#039;ve heard. But then I think &quot;If I hate them, that only makes me as good as they are and that&#039;s taking a step backward&quot;. And that&#039;s what what keeps me the way I am. To all of the people who think we are all just racist crackers: Do you want people like me to remain colorblind, or is hate what you prefer?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thats why this world will continue with racism. I honestly see people who are willing to not partake in racism as a sign of maturity and something people who like to hate, are lacking. People who aren&#8217;t willing to take steps forward and only want to bask in the hardships of the past, despite the steps forward we&#8217;ve taken, will be part of the reason for racism always existing.</p>
<p>#27Likeabite: your generalizations are too broad. Ive seen plenty of white women and men abused by police who are white as well. Why must everything be a racial issue? And maybe the man who punched the black woman in the face WAS racist but does that generalize the whole population? Not really, because it doesnt generalize me..</p>
<p>Isiah: I read your post, several times. What I take from it is that you&#8217;re saying that white people who voted for Obama because he was the most qualified person for the job, and NOT simply because he was black, makes them racist. And if so, that&#8217;s a completely asinine statement to make. Not asking for props for voting for Obama on my end by the way, I simply did what I felt was right.</p>
<p>You said I deduce people who voted for Obama soley because he was black, and that would be correct. That&#8217;s not a good reason to vote someone into office. Although it&#8217;s completely acceptable to be proud of voting for him because he is a black man, (why can&#8217;t I call him white by the way? His mother was a white woman, so it shouldn&#8217;t be a black/white issue with him.) your sole reason for voting for this man should not be according to the color of his skin.</p>
<p>You also mentioned you think I believe black people voted for Obama because he is black as well and not because he was the qualified candidate. This is true. I am generalizing the people who have actually TOLD me this was the reason they voted for him. Not because of what I hear through the grapevine.</p>
<p>As a white individual, I believe every black person should feel they have the same opportunity for advancement and equality in this country/world as anyone. I, myself am not racist, but I find it hard when I hear comments like some of the ones I&#8217;ve heard. But then I think &#8220;If I hate them, that only makes me as good as they are and that&#8217;s taking a step backward&#8221;. And that&#8217;s what what keeps me the way I am. To all of the people who think we are all just racist crackers: Do you want people like me to remain colorblind, or is hate what you prefer?</p>
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		<title>By: County Of Kings</title>
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		<dc:creator>County Of Kings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like to have and frame that photo and put it on my bathroom wall so i can look at it every morning b4 i head off to work. thats thug motivation for dat ass</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like to have and frame that photo and put it on my bathroom wall so i can look at it every morning b4 i head off to work. thats thug motivation for dat ass</p>
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		<title>By: 2cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>2cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fck you if you don&#039;t get it... Sh!ts real and accurate and if you can&#039;t understand you&#039;re either here to trick folks or you&#039;re jus a f&#039;n prick!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fck you if you don&#8217;t get it&#8230; Sh!ts real and accurate and if you can&#8217;t understand you&#8217;re either here to trick folks or you&#8217;re jus a f&#8217;n prick!</p>
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		<title>By: Superman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Superman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 01:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think this cartoons missing a frame... the part where the oppressed black mail, who after all those years of hard work is able to just jump right up on to the top. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think this cartoons missing a frame&#8230; the part where the oppressed black mail, who after all those years of hard work is able to just jump right up on to the top. <img src='http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jones009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jones009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@29 

There not &quot;supposed&quot; to though, if they&#039;re racist like this illustration suggests.

They&#039;re not &quot;supposed&quot; to, if they don&#039;t want to give the  black man a lift up onto the ledge, like the illustration suggests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@29 </p>
<p>There not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to though, if they&#8217;re racist like this illustration suggests.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not &#8220;supposed&#8221; to, if they don&#8217;t want to give the  black man a lift up onto the ledge, like the illustration suggests.</p>
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		<title>By: Jones009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jones009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 00:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@28

If that was the case Isiah, why was there loads of hype about him being the first black president? Your examples can&#039;t be applied in the real world. I wish it could because then racism wouldn&#039;t exist.
 

&quot;whites voting for the qualified candidate, who happens to be black, is dumb because that’s what you’re suppose to do.&quot;

Your post proves by point.

If whites are &quot;supposed&quot; to vote for a qualified candidate, regardless of race, then they are therefore not racist and whether they intentionally mean to give a black man a hand up or not, the fact still remains they are. Which disproves the illustration.

If Obama was just another qualified candiate, then none of us or any rappers would give a shit, because its just another politician.

But Obama ain&#039;t just politician, he&#039;s the FIRST BLACK QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.   

In the perfect world, race wouldn&#039;t matter. But we all know it does.

I said about 70% of African-Americans voted for Obama because he was black. 

Why?

Because it&#039;s a huge step forward for all black people worldwide. It&#039;s a historical moment. 


I hope ya get my point. The fact white people voted for him, shows they don&#039;t care about race. Props or no props.</description>
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<p>If that was the case Isiah, why was there loads of hype about him being the first black president? Your examples can&#8217;t be applied in the real world. I wish it could because then racism wouldn&#8217;t exist.</p>
<p>&#8220;whites voting for the qualified candidate, who happens to be black, is dumb because that’s what you’re suppose to do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Your post proves by point.</p>
<p>If whites are &#8220;supposed&#8221; to vote for a qualified candidate, regardless of race, then they are therefore not racist and whether they intentionally mean to give a black man a hand up or not, the fact still remains they are. Which disproves the illustration.</p>
<p>If Obama was just another qualified candiate, then none of us or any rappers would give a shit, because its just another politician.</p>
<p>But Obama ain&#8217;t just politician, he&#8217;s the FIRST BLACK QUALIFIED CANDIDATE.   </p>
<p>In the perfect world, race wouldn&#8217;t matter. But we all know it does.</p>
<p>I said about 70% of African-Americans voted for Obama because he was black. </p>
<p>Why?</p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s a huge step forward for all black people worldwide. It&#8217;s a historical moment. </p>
<p>I hope ya get my point. The fact white people voted for him, shows they don&#8217;t care about race. Props or no props.</p>
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		<title>By: Isiah Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isiah Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>error: I meant to say given whites props voting for the qualified candidate, who happens to be black, is dumb because that’s what you’re suppose to do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>error: I meant to say given whites props voting for the qualified candidate, who happens to be black, is dumb because that’s what you’re suppose to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Isiah Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isiah Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@25
My point is that too much credit is given for things you are suppose to do.
Like Chris Rock said, a man requesting props for not going to jail is dumb, because that&#039;s what you&#039;re suppose to do.

A father asking for props because he takes care of his kids is dumb because that&#039;s what you&#039;re suppose to do.

whites voting for the qualified candidate, who happens to be black, is dumb because that&#039;s what you&#039;re suppose to do.

Like I said earlier, my man Flavor Flav would not be president, though he&#039;s black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@25<br />
My point is that too much credit is given for things you are suppose to do.<br />
Like Chris Rock said, a man requesting props for not going to jail is dumb, because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re suppose to do.</p>
<p>A father asking for props because he takes care of his kids is dumb because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re suppose to do.</p>
<p>whites voting for the qualified candidate, who happens to be black, is dumb because that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re suppose to do.</p>
<p>Like I said earlier, my man Flavor Flav would not be president, though he&#8217;s black.</p>
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		<title>By: Likeabite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Likeabite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 10 You&#039;re ignorant if that&#039;s your viewpoint on race relations in America...for one, whites fighting for civil rights and what not have never been said to be false...however the fact they were the ones that took our rights aways should not be ignored either and that is the main issue this illustration is presenting. 

@22 you&#039;re even more ignorant because you fail to see that not all blacks who wanted that McDonald&#039;s job could get it...you fail to see that most of the people who got that McDonald&#039;s job were also at a disadvantage because that money was instanteneously spent on helping out their family. The white person more than likely got a better job than at a McDonald&#039;s...and even if they worked at McDonald&#039;s they were able to use their money for their own needs and not on the family because more likely than not the his family was well off more than the black McDonald&#039;s worker&#039;s...thanks to this same illustration so yes this illustration is relevant. Even if the black person had a job better than McDonald&#039;s, in the corporate world he&#039;d still be at a disadvantage because most corporations are not colorblind.

Civil rights have gon a long way, as evidenced by our current president...at the same time you still have incidents and videos of black people being shot while handcuffed, black girls being punched in the face while handcuffed and whatnot...how many of these incidents do you see taking place with white people? Like none so yes this illustration is necessary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 10 You&#8217;re ignorant if that&#8217;s your viewpoint on race relations in America&#8230;for one, whites fighting for civil rights and what not have never been said to be false&#8230;however the fact they were the ones that took our rights aways should not be ignored either and that is the main issue this illustration is presenting. </p>
<p>@22 you&#8217;re even more ignorant because you fail to see that not all blacks who wanted that McDonald&#8217;s job could get it&#8230;you fail to see that most of the people who got that McDonald&#8217;s job were also at a disadvantage because that money was instanteneously spent on helping out their family. The white person more than likely got a better job than at a McDonald&#8217;s&#8230;and even if they worked at McDonald&#8217;s they were able to use their money for their own needs and not on the family because more likely than not the his family was well off more than the black McDonald&#8217;s worker&#8217;s&#8230;thanks to this same illustration so yes this illustration is relevant. Even if the black person had a job better than McDonald&#8217;s, in the corporate world he&#8217;d still be at a disadvantage because most corporations are not colorblind.</p>
<p>Civil rights have gon a long way, as evidenced by our current president&#8230;at the same time you still have incidents and videos of black people being shot while handcuffed, black girls being punched in the face while handcuffed and whatnot&#8230;how many of these incidents do you see taking place with white people? Like none so yes this illustration is necessary.</p>
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		<title>By: Isiah Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isiah Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 23:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@#24
&quot;By the way Isiah, I’m white and I voted for Obama because I think he can do some good for the country, so the notion that white people did not vote for Obama could not be farther from the truth. &quot;

Please re-read my post, I said that whites voted for Obama.


&quot;On the other hand, so many black people who had never even voted in their life made it out to the voting poles to vote for him this year without even knowing what he stood for, but simply because he is black (halfway anyway). I see that as racist. Racism comes from both ends, and will only end when you allow it to&quot;

This statement provides a hint to the problem between whites and black relation... it&#039;s called perspective. 

So you voted for Obama because you thought he was the qualified candidate. But for some reason, you deduce that there are black people who voted for him just because he&#039;s black, ok. I think we could agree that there are some whites who voted against him because he was black. fine.

No one knows the exact amount of black voters who voted for him because he was black and no one knows the exact amount of whites who voted against him because he was black. 

But you and the media make reference to the notion that blacks voted for him because he was black and not because he was the qualified candidate. I guess the notion of a person inspiring others to vote for him do not apply to the majority of blacks.

Remember, Hillary Clinton had the majority of Blacks votes in the beginning of the primaries.

And when asked about that, he said that, Obama said that he has not given them any reason to support him, and he&#039;ll work on that. This is not verbatum statement from Obama, but you get his point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@#24<br />
&#8220;By the way Isiah, I’m white and I voted for Obama because I think he can do some good for the country, so the notion that white people did not vote for Obama could not be farther from the truth. &#8221;</p>
<p>Please re-read my post, I said that whites voted for Obama.</p>
<p>&#8220;On the other hand, so many black people who had never even voted in their life made it out to the voting poles to vote for him this year without even knowing what he stood for, but simply because he is black (halfway anyway). I see that as racist. Racism comes from both ends, and will only end when you allow it to&#8221;</p>
<p>This statement provides a hint to the problem between whites and black relation&#8230; it&#8217;s called perspective. </p>
<p>So you voted for Obama because you thought he was the qualified candidate. But for some reason, you deduce that there are black people who voted for him just because he&#8217;s black, ok. I think we could agree that there are some whites who voted against him because he was black. fine.</p>
<p>No one knows the exact amount of black voters who voted for him because he was black and no one knows the exact amount of whites who voted against him because he was black. </p>
<p>But you and the media make reference to the notion that blacks voted for him because he was black and not because he was the qualified candidate. I guess the notion of a person inspiring others to vote for him do not apply to the majority of blacks.</p>
<p>Remember, Hillary Clinton had the majority of Blacks votes in the beginning of the primaries.</p>
<p>And when asked about that, he said that, Obama said that he has not given them any reason to support him, and he&#8217;ll work on that. This is not verbatum statement from Obama, but you get his point.</p>
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