Comments on: Change Has Come, Now History is Ours: Jay-Z, Obama, and the Hip-Hop Community’s Next Movement http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/ Latest Music Videos from Rap & R&B, Along with latest Clothes, Sneakers, Movies etc. Thu, 26 Nov 2009 18:16:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/ hourly 1 By: 2cents http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-403343 2cents Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:41:16 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-403343 lol... nigga's gonna be mad when they find out the was lovin polyester when there was cotton all around them...lol! Co-singin vigorous and G'zas (beware of false profits!) lol… nigga’s gonna be mad when they find out the was lovin polyester when there was cotton all around them…lol!

Co-singin vigorous and G’zas (beware of false profits!)

]]> By: Blaze http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-402362 Blaze Mon, 17 Nov 2008 00:49:33 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-402362 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this nigga and vigorous must be die hard Wayne and G-Unit fans. Go do the birdwalk and leave the real hip hop to the grown up pimpin ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this nigga and vigorous must be die hard Wayne and G-Unit fans. Go do the birdwalk and leave the real hip hop to the grown up pimpin

]]> By: G'zas http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-402263 G'zas Sun, 16 Nov 2008 04:49:29 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-402263 vigorous said the truth thats why dick riding faggots lke his stans get mad, this camel has and always will be a follower and biter extrodinaire. nothing he has done is ceative and he sounds madd corny trying to sound political it dont fit him. he already type cast himself as an ugly nigga that talks about flossing and his friends lives hustling.he's corny and alot of you people are so brainwashed to this biters bullcrap u can't accept it. thanks to u ass wipes he just uses u as a tax writeoff for his benefit.he can;t even step in his old neighborhood cause he such a fraud. vigorous keep spreading THE TRUTH. vigorous said the truth thats why dick riding faggots lke his stans get mad, this camel has and always will be a follower and biter extrodinaire. nothing he has done is ceative and he sounds madd corny trying to sound political it dont fit him. he already type cast himself as an ugly nigga that talks about flossing and his friends lives hustling.he’s corny and alot of you people are so brainwashed to this biters bullcrap u can’t accept it. thanks to u ass wipes he just uses u as a tax writeoff for his benefit.he can;t even step in his old neighborhood cause he such a fraud. vigorous keep spreading THE TRUTH.

]]> By: Easy-E http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-402199 Easy-E Sat, 15 Nov 2008 14:20:10 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-402199 That was great bruh That was great bruh

]]> By: Zu http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-401889 Zu Fri, 14 Nov 2008 06:02:03 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-401889 Fuk dat jigga is everything he's ever been, but a 100 times better now! No one can change what they have done so they only can make things better and J has done the impossible and did it twice. And everyone deserves a chance 2 make a difference. He damn sure deserves the credit he deserves and some! But 4 the most part he gone be all he can be like anyone else! And right now he's still the best rapper alive yet! Big ups to Jay-Z keep doing yo thang, dont let the public criticize you. 4real keep pissing them off!!!! Fuk dat jigga is everything he’s ever been, but a 100 times better now! No one can change what they have done so they only can make things better and J has done the impossible and did it twice. And everyone deserves a chance 2 make a difference. He damn sure deserves the credit he deserves and some! But 4 the most part he gone be all he can be like anyone else! And right now he’s still the best rapper alive yet!

Big ups to Jay-Z keep doing yo thang, dont let the public criticize you. 4real keep pissing them off!!!!

]]> By: Kid icarus http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-401882 Kid icarus Fri, 14 Nov 2008 05:15:30 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-401882 I created avideo for the song the way i seen it. Realtalkny you can post it so people can see. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jxuvlCNk00 I created avideo for the song the way i seen it. Realtalkny you can post it so people can see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jxuvlCNk00

]]> By: A Dub http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-401869 A Dub Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:34:25 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-401869 I remember when you weren't even a Jay fan like that, now you re writing essays on him. Lol. Good shit. Dude from post # 2 said it best, though Jay is still the best he has definitely compromised his rawness and dumbed his sh!t down for mass appeal. I mean the man said it himself: If skills sold I'd probably be, lyrically Talib Kweli. But they don't, and as a result we don't get as many clever double entendres, we don't see as many perplexing metaphors, and we don't see the type of personification we saw on Momma Loves Me often. Well I'm the ghetto's answer to Trump/ I'm cancer to the Hamptons/ 20 Million a whop, ransacking mansions/ Increase the noise pollution soon as I land in/ Don't even trust uppity white folk keep the cannon tucked/ N!ggas try to lean on jay-shots gon stand u up/ Glocks gon pop-y'all not understanding much/ I hustle for the duckets but now I hustle for the rush like fuck it baby, I just love it/ Chicks now, say they like the way I thug it/ Since my album drop, my stock rose when up like I went public Ladies I love yall, but I love my freedom more/ I love my n!ggas, love to see them ball/ I love Beans and Bleek/ Them n!ggas like my peter and paul My disciples/ And that's right, we comin for the title... I remember when you weren’t even a Jay fan like that, now you
re writing essays on him. Lol. Good shit. Dude from post # 2 said it best, though Jay is still the best he has definitely compromised his rawness and dumbed his sh!t down for mass appeal. I mean the man said it himself: If skills sold I’d probably be, lyrically Talib Kweli.
But they don’t, and as a result we don’t get as many clever double entendres, we don’t see as many perplexing metaphors, and we don’t see the type of personification we saw on Momma Loves Me often.

Well I’m the ghetto’s answer to Trump/
I’m cancer to the Hamptons/
20 Million a whop, ransacking mansions/
Increase the noise pollution soon as I land in/
Don’t even trust uppity white folk keep the cannon tucked/
N!ggas try to lean on jay-shots gon stand u up/
Glocks gon pop-y’all not understanding much/
I hustle for the duckets but now I hustle for the rush like fuck it baby,
I just love it/
Chicks now, say they like the way I thug it/
Since my album drop, my stock rose when up like I went public
Ladies I love yall, but I love my freedom more/
I love my n!ggas, love to see them ball/
I love Beans and Bleek/
Them n!ggas like my peter and paul
My disciples/
And that’s right, we comin for the title…

]]> By: SMH http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-401866 SMH Fri, 14 Nov 2008 04:31:29 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-401866 i think someone with a god-complex is feeling a little threatened. bow down to the obamatron. thou shall know that money dont make you god, jesus was a poor man. pray to jesus kids, he actually loves you i think someone with a god-complex is feeling a little threatened. bow down to the obamatron.
thou shall know that money dont make you god, jesus was a poor man. pray to jesus kids, he actually loves you

]]> By: County Of Kings http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-2/#comment-401856 County Of Kings Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:38:15 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-401856 ya'll do understand that "history" isnt about obama or politics at all right? he made the song a while ago and he said that he had one song on b3 that will be soooo undeniable the public will have no choice but to feel it. but since the obama win he felt he needed to release this song for the people, for the hiphop community. he called it a "gift". and i'm glad he released it at this historic time becuz it means that much more. even without the election this song was hands down the most powerful song of the year ya’ll do understand that “history” isnt about obama or politics at all right? he made the song a while ago and he said that he had one song on b3 that will be soooo undeniable the public will have no choice but to feel it. but since the obama win he felt he needed to release this song for the people, for the hiphop community. he called it a “gift”. and i’m glad he released it at this historic time becuz it means that much more. even without the election this song was hands down the most powerful song of the year

]]> By: OldSoulNewEra http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/11/topic/topic/read-btw-the-lines/change-has-come-now-history-is-ours-jay-z-obama-and-the-hip-hop-communitys-next-movement/comment-page-1/#comment-401839 OldSoulNewEra Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:51:00 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=13435#comment-401839 Yes, I feel that Obama's presidency is historical and the crowning victory in the journey to Blackness in the White House. But when will we Black people score a victory when we can overcome our hypocrisies? I mean with the overwhelming 70% who voted Proposition 8, excessive homophobia (down low, saying "no homo" when it doesn't justify anything); the N word, gangsta life, pessimism on success (hating), "swagger-jacking and not giving proper credit to those who influence us....(that one is mostly for the rappers and entertainers) etc...... We still have a long way to go that Obama can't make for us. We as a people have to change it. We can't preach "change, victory, and history" when we still restrict ourselves in grassroot instances and not acknowledging problems and issues in our communities. There are fears in our communities, which result is ignorant comments like Trick Trick and those who agree with him. I'm not saying what to think, but at least consider the other "small-scale" things that we all encounter (or wish not to) on a daily basis. Don't expect Obama to simply make Black people invincible, we have to eradicate our own barriers as well. Educate yourselves people! Jay-Z, Nas and Tupac are not and never were enough. They make good music, but that's it. Much of it is very hypocritical imo. And I can't bow down to people who think they know of my situation and try to relate to me so I'll buy the record and then live the exact opposite life. Now Obama is someone else for every rapper to compare himself to, especially Jay-Z. And no rapper, or human being for that matter, is above anyone, PERIOD. Jay-Z, Young Jeezy, Common, Nas, and other presidential songs are nice and great, and if they motivate you, then that's all good. But for me, they're just a little too hollow. Yes, I feel that Obama’s presidency is historical and the crowning victory in the journey to Blackness in the White House.

But when will we Black people score a victory when we can overcome our hypocrisies?

I mean with the overwhelming 70% who voted Proposition 8, excessive homophobia (down low, saying “no homo” when it doesn’t justify anything); the N word, gangsta life, pessimism on success (hating), “swagger-jacking and not giving proper credit to those who influence us….(that one is mostly for the rappers and entertainers) etc……

We still have a long way to go that Obama can’t make for us. We as a people have to change it. We can’t preach “change, victory, and history” when we still restrict ourselves in grassroot instances and not acknowledging problems and issues in our communities. There are fears in our communities, which result is ignorant comments like Trick Trick and those who agree with him. I’m not saying what to think, but at least consider the other “small-scale” things that we all encounter (or wish not to) on a daily basis. Don’t expect Obama to simply make Black people invincible, we have to eradicate our own barriers as well.

Educate yourselves people! Jay-Z, Nas and Tupac are not and never were enough. They make good music, but that’s it. Much of it is very hypocritical imo. And I can’t bow down to people who think they know of my situation and try to relate to me so I’ll buy the record and then live the exact opposite life. Now Obama is someone else for every rapper to compare himself to, especially Jay-Z. And no rapper, or human being for that matter, is above anyone, PERIOD. Jay-Z, Young Jeezy, Common, Nas, and other presidential songs are nice and great, and if they motivate you, then that’s all good. But for me, they’re just a little too hollow.

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