Stop The Madness: Eminem Voted As The Best Rapper Alive Over Jay-Z
VIBE has today announced Eminem as the winner of the Best Rapper Alive competition. The Detroit native beat out New York’s rap king Jay-Z in the Final Round with 69 percent of the votes, crowning him as the people’s choice for the true king of hip hop. The results of the contest are detailed in VIBE’s November 2008 issue hitting newsstands October 21st.
“It’s obviously an honor to have won the fans’ support by being voted the Best Rapper Alive,” says Eminem in response to his victory. “I don’t think that there is any one rapper that is simply the best though. Everyone who was in consideration and many others are the best at certain things, and at what they do. But since Vibe’s offering the distinction, hell yeah I’ll accept!”
More than 920,000 votes were cast since the contest began on July 21, 2008.
Em hasn’t even dropped an album since 2004 and he is put over Jay-Z?
October 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
This isn’t madness. But I agree with you RTNY.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
Let the racial comments begin ….
October 7th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
JAY-Z > EMINEM
I WANT TO SEE LUPE FIASCO BATTLE EMINEM
LUPE WOULD SLAUGHTERED HIM
October 7th, 2008 at 1:41 pm
Aww no lil wayne? lmao. I agree eminem is a BEAST with the lyrics.
TOP 10 MC’s in HIPHOP
1.Jay-Z
2.Eminem
3.Kanye
4.Common
5.Mos Def
6.Luda
7.Nas
8.Talib Kweli
9.Ice Cube
10.Bun B
Sorry wayne you WACK !
October 7th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
honorable mentions: Beanie sigel, freeway, lloyd banks
LIL WAYNE IS WACK PEOPLE yall supporting a openly gay rapper.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Vibe mag is right…i mean just listen to “Renegade” of Blueprint album, Em murked Jigga
October 7th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
This wasnt for “Best Rapper Right Now” it was for BEST RAPPER ALIVE! Im glad Eminem won. Jay-z bites too much
October 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
gtfoh @2
If u think the reason y people disagree with the vibe vote is coz emimem is white..
This is a SIGN of what will happen in the election if black people get complacent and just think that obama is on for the white house… Thats how i see the vibe vote.. Tru hiphop people where complacent that jayz would win so never botherd lol
THIS IS THE WAKE UP CALL lol
October 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Eminem is by far the best rapper of all time…people say Jay Z is the best of all time and all i have to say is Eminem killed Jay Z on his own track “Renegade” J would agree that eminem is better no one wants to go after EM…that would be career ending to any rapper…Jay Z loves to jack other peoples lines anyways
October 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
HAHAH A WHITE MAN IS THE FACE OF HIP HOP LOL ELVISSSSSS
October 7th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
well has jay dropped a good album since the black album? american gangster was good but c’mon that’s different from a studio album. plus head to head, have you guys forgot about renegade? does it even matter what vibe’s best rapper alive is anyways? nobody can agree on one, it just depends on your opinion. not a magazines.
my top 5>>>>your top 5
October 7th, 2008 at 1:52 pm
He beat Jay-Z in the Final Round with 69 percent. Just gotta to show you VIBE has a lot of white readers who are bias towards the Elvis of hiphop.
October 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
Oh my effin gawd! First the recession now this!! lol but naw…Vibe it is what it is but their wrong Jay-Z is the best rapper alive! im sorry Em is dope but not better than Hov..you gotta look at what it came down to…it was JAY-Z vs Eminem..you know how many ppl hate on Jay!!…so they all voted for Em, thats how he won!! Plus Jay missing a whole bunch of votes from the south, the hurricane came thru at the end of August I forgot all about that shit and I was voting the whole competetion! So you missing Louisiana, and Texas…ive never seen or heard of Em down south!!…so due to national diaster and the vast amount of haters…Jay-Z lost but we know the real deal! Hov is GOAT!!
October 7th, 2008 at 1:56 pm
how does a verse make u the best rapper alive.. Put jays albums up against emimems,
And the winner is… BaRoc boyz, jigga..
But i rate emimem for gettin political with that mosh track
October 7th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
Ha ha ha ha…..HATE IT OR LOVE IT……d best part is gonna be when Em drops d Album n you’ll all 4get about jigga T.I. Kanye Jeezy …Its the return of the True Rapper..n Fif will love dis..they’ll share publiity together…GGGGG-UNIT!
October 7th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
RTNY stay on JayZ dick shit is disgusting……..that old camel ass nigga is washed up!!!!!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
eminem or jay-z do not even make top 100 rappers.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
Hold the f*ckin presses! This shit is blasephemous! Em over Hov? How dare they insult hip hop like that! I’m at a loss for words with this one! Vibe and their suburban readers can eat a d*ck! They lost my respect and support!
HOV>Every other rapper
October 7th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
i aint gone lie.. i voted for Eminem cos i thought he was the better rapper cos he put more energy and raw emotion in his music and doesnt bite, he original with his lyrics, Jay-z is the best mainstream black rapper alive (even though he bites) but the real winner is nas but he didnt take advantage of the opportunitys that were out there for him, its like hes still underground yea hes fallen off abit but he the true face of hip hop, in my opinion.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
How can you really say that Em is the best of all time though..even if I didnt think Jay was I wouldnt say Em…just based off the fact that he has never said nutin in his raps that cats use as like slogans in life!!… PAC, Big,Jay,Scarface,Common,Lupe list goes on…everybody can think of their lyrics and say “I had a moment like that” or ‘thats real shit” or whateva! i aint gon front i can think of one Em song that you could use “I AM” erything else im not sure about I have a few of his cds but i didnt get into his lyrics like that… but Vibe does have alot of white readers
October 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
first fuck u nigel …madness really stop the madness the same line u use to describe 11 yr olds stealing their moms whips or parents locking their kids n dungeons n all the other fucked up shyt u got on this site u use to describe em over jay???????????fuck out here how quickly people forget wen eminems CAREER was over hovs now that em chilled everyone forgets how ruthless he can be on the mic…….RENEGADE ANY1 wen it comes to pure mic skill eminem is simply over hov ems lyrics r bananas sometimes u cant even believe the shyt he said while i wont come at hov cuz i respect his CAREER (NOT MIC SKILLS BUT ALL THE MONEY HES MAD,THE IMAGE,THE TRENDS,THE MILLION DOLLAR BUSINESS)I GOT SAY THERES ONLY SO MANY TIMES I WANNA HEAR HOW HE PUSHES THE LEX WHILE FUKIN WIT A BAD LIGHT SKINNES HONEY N DRINKING CRYSTAL.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:04 pm
umm of all the guys to complain about eminem, are you seriously trying to say eminem is just like some bum. i mean cmon i heard some 1 mention albums, sure jay got more but which put more good albums consistantly. em ha like 1 bad album(latest 1) i dont care, just about any other rapper you put before jay b4 em is a problem, but emm, come on, you telling me he aint put in work?
ps im not even white, an i am a jayze fan, but come on. i dont honestly think jay would b elike “get the fick outta here” he’ be like ill give him this one.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
i agree, eminem always spits crazy, his delivery subject matter, no1 is matchin em on that.. now if u put em against “reasonable doubt” jayz i might say different, but as a whole, em takes it..
October 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
em>jay
October 7th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
its about damn time……he deserves the credit….Jay’s ego will tell himself he’s better…But to be just Eminem is the Clear better one…Tehy people dont lie…Its what we like not wht the rappers themselves like. they music for us we are the ultimate judge…
October 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
The FANS voted. Eminem is a HUGE star. He’s the one with the most mainstream fans so of course he would win if the FANS vote.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:08 pm
Nigel, how is this madness? Madness would be if Lil Wayne won. Ok, so by your logic, Eminem can’t win because he hasn’t dropped since 2004? Well, neither has Rakim or Big Daddy Kane, etc. so should their talent not count too cuz their from a different era?
And anyways, Eminem is a far better MC then Jay-Z. You could post Jay-Z’s best verse and I can give u one 10x better then that by Em. Jay’s only better then Eminem when it comes to content. “Stop the Madness”, lol fuck outta here..
October 7th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
well seeing that jay hasnt dropped a decent album since 2004 (black album) i guess em is the better rapper
October 7th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
nigga talkin bout the stop the madness?! u usually be on point when headline some shit dat topic. it aint too hard to believe eminem beat jay-z. shit he sold twice as much as jay throughout his carerr with half the albums output jay has had so he obviously got a big fanbase and let’s not 4get eminem aint sucka mc either. dat wigga is dope.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:11 pm
even if u think hov is over em(which some do n its their right 2 )u cant have em 2 far behind u gotta respect it.hes 1 of the few rappers that doesnt live up to the stereotype IM SO FUCKING SICK OF HEARING ABOUT THE 120 WAYS U SHOT SOME1,OHH N OTHER THING JUST CUZ U SOLD SOME 8BALLS DOESNT MAKE U DRUG DEALER OR ACCOUNT FOR U RYMING ABOUT 100X THE AMOUNT OF DOPE U ACTUALLY MOVED(HMHM EVERY RAPPER EVER)THATS WAT MAKES EM SO SICK HES GOES OUTSIGHT THE NORM TELL NE OF YA FAVORITE RAPPERS TO MAKE AN ALBUM WIT NO GUNPLAY,NO DRUGTALK,N NO FLOSSING ….HAHAHAHA ULL GET LIKE 2-3 TRACKS FROM ALOTTA ARTISTS THATS IT EMS GOT TOPICS THOUGH N THATS WAT MAKES THE NIGGA ONCE IN A LIFETIME TYPE OF DUDE
October 7th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
CO SIGN 24 U SAID IT PERFECT
October 7th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
It’s subjective. I prefer Jay over Em but I ain’t mad if you disagree with me cause Em is a sick MC aswell. Jay is number 1 in my book no doubt about that.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:15 pm
It’s wack ass Vibe. They are not hip hop.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
jay>>em when the last time u heard a eminem album wer u didn’t have to skip 5 tracks
October 7th, 2008 at 2:16 pm
that is an insult to hiphop, em is nice i cant deny that, but he is not the best by a long shot. everybody here keep mentioning renegade like that song defines they whole careers. it was em’s song, em’s beat so em shouldve came harder and he did. jayz music touches the roots of where hiphop resides, the hood. em music relates to white ppl goin thru trailer trash hardships. he came in the came dissin britney spears and nsync, made videos of burrying his moms. how many classic hiphop joints does he have in his catalog. i know a few em songs but none will be considered classics like hard knock life, brooklyns finest, come and get me, takeover. he only beefs with white pop artist, never engaged in a rap beef (unless u count jarule) and he hasnt been relevant in hiphop in the last 4yrs. jayz is too accomplished as an mc and it amazes me how he still has to prove himself. i hope he read this article and re-does the blueprint 3 just for ya’ll doubters
u know 50 bout to make a statement any minute now, shits bout to get ugly.
whats next mccain is more suited for president than obama?
October 7th, 2008 at 2:17 pm
stop what madness?
eminem is better then wack-z
October 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
Stop the Madness?..r u kiddin me?…u fukin wak ass blogger like what makes you think eminem doesnt deserve..oh czu you hear that Camel everyday on the radio?..ur fukin so wak with ur posts liek on some real shit hopp off…czu its obvious whoeever works for realtalkny is ignorant as fuk..you just post shit without even analyzin it first…
October 7th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
is it a honor to out class jay-z on a track does that get you best rapper alive title
jay-z
nas
they are the best rappers alive
October 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
thats not even madness to me..he bodied jay on renegade and just cuz he hasnt put out anything lately doesnt mean he falls off..jayz been putting out music but no1 wants to hear it anymore..how u gonna sit there n say im 30 im not puttin big chains on anymore or rims on cars but wanna go back to spittin bout the crack u sold shit doesnt make sense..eminem is a better mc than jay point blank period…
October 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Most of the ppl up here are white? right so let me say
FUCK U, let me say FUCK U thats felt good$. one track yes Em got J on renegade just 1 track ppl let’s be real, Em is nice but half the shit he say 60% of it i can’t roc w/ it
ex:Just lose it, Without me, Superman, Ass like that,Deed evil, Brain Damage, Puke, My fault, Cumon Everybody, Yellow Brick Road. just 2 name some and i do listen too Em but BEST RAPPER ALIVE TITLE HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO
i can name at less 8 ppl better than him sorry! just the facts.
p.s 2COOL4U IS JUST LIKE U?
October 7th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Damn, you a STAN. I thought this was was gon be on some racial shit, but naw its just you crying over your keyboard because Vibe don’t think Jay-Z’s the best. You probably sent death threat emails to OASIS to I bet. lol
October 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
stop the madness? nigga this aint a rule now, this aint no law.just an article. u still allowed to like jay-z more than em.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
FUCK Gay Z!
He Swagger jacked Jaz O, then Camp-lo, then Nas; Biggie, then all of State P mostly Beans..,
He swagger Jacked Dame’s hustle in respect to expanding a business’ franchise - ie endorsement hustles.., and when he was big enough that sponsors didnt want to deal through his fam, he ditched his fam to become a corporate poster boy..,
He’s a fake “business-man” plus like 50 said, he’s media freinds (like RTNY,) keep over-inflating his worth, while his TI friends keep giving him fake accolades even at the bullshit-ass United Nations even.
Plus he tried to suck Kanye’s swagger, and suppress the Dips too.., basically he’s a twisted dude. I mean he agreed to a deal to make sure he and his ‘wife’ sat court-side at Knicks games for a certain number of games per season, in exchange for cash… Not forgeting all the negative poison he helped pump into the minds of inner-city youth with all the carnal materialism his earlier, (and more popular,) albums promoted…
October 7th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
Best rappers alive when you get into the best of anything its certain things that you have to look at. I’m from FLINT, MI (MIDWEST) Things are diff over here, and Hip-hop comes from NY yes but when your making music you have to understand what music is. Music is what moves YOU yes YOU from Rock to Pop To Hip-Hop to House Music; it simply is what you the person likes. From what I see Jay-z has millions of fans and so does EM,, you can call it race you can call it what ever you want but nothing can take away from the fact that Em is one of the few rappers that has went DIAMOND (10x) and that’s just talking sells right. So lets get deep, Jay talks about hood shit and what he went through to now of a ballin out club coppin business man that’s coo, EM talked about his life and wife and momma an so forth so what does that mean. It means what I said b4 Music is what moves YOU so if you don’t’ like it then don’t listen to it, However em made Lose Yourself that was a very inspiring song an im not saying Jay doesn’t have any its just that song related to so many because its saying you only have one shot so when you do something just go hard and lose yourself and anything can be done thats powerful. Another thing is beyond lyric’s Em was put on by Dr. Dre who then Em puts on 50 another 10x selling artist I don’t recall Jayz putting on anyone selling anything like that and I do recall Jay-z himself saying aint no body moving units but Em Pimp Juice (NELLY) and US. So he said it himself Far as what you do with money Jay-z can be seen with that from owning the Nets, clubs, clothes, putting his face on all types of shit means a lot of money for Jay-z but nothing for us. Honestly the reason why these ppl have the money that they have on this level is because of fans and I feel a lot of artist let fans down by the wack music that they put out and the misleading of direction of the influence that they forget that they have. On the Blueprint many will argue the reason why EM killed renegade is because it was his beat and he knew how to flow to it but man if you can spit you can spit and im not talking shit away from Em nor Jay-z. Em just puts words together so well that’s your like damn and Jay-z will say some shit that you will be like damn as well its all about what you like at the end of the day because its only MUSIC witch is what MOVES YOU Beyond that I feel Emienm is one of the best people spitting alive right now yes, Because he can at anytime just smash a whole track you never know what type of style is gonna be used or what he’s gonna say or what he’s gonna talk about its just like then when you hear it your like damn he did it again ripped it or you’ll say nahh he came wack. But that’s all by choice Peace
October 7th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
see this wat happens when blacks dnt vote lmao…eminem is a better lyricist than jay 2 me but jay relates 2 people more and he is consistently great em is not when he is great he is really great he has a few real songs lik when im gone and stan but then again he makes retarded shit basically most of the encore cd but u cnt say who is the best alive really
October 7th, 2008 at 2:26 pm
point blank Jayz is a better songmaker. Eminem is a better rapper. if anyone doesnt agree wit dat u need to jump off of these niggas dicks foreal
October 7th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Nigel this isnt madness Eminem is nicer than Jay Period.Jay done fell off since the Black Album lyrically, American Gangster was a good album but lyrically it wasnt the Blueprint/Takeover Flow.But the Best Rapper ALIVE is Rakim he isnt rapping anymore BUT HE IS ALIVE
October 7th, 2008 at 2:30 pm
sometimes u gotta be real and admit the truth sometimes, jayz is my favorite rapper, but is he a better artist then Eminem? not foreal, jays highest album sail was 5 million. Eminems highest was 16 million counting worldwide. u gotta go by sales becuz it show how many people are listening to u rite?
October 7th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
FUCKIN GROUPIES, ALL OF YOU. NAS MURKED GAY Z. GAY Z DONT RESPOND TO COMMENTS, UNLESS THE RAPPERS ARE DEAD OR LOCKED UP. BEST RAPPER MY ASS!YOU DONT GET THE BEST RAPPER TITLE BY HIDING.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
#41.. if u wanna go by sales, then that means 50 would be better then Jay, but that’s preposterous right? Sales have no say when it comes to talent.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
32 kill yaself no matter wat color u are we all the same im mexican dont mean shyt i go thru the same shyt as a white person in a trailer park or a black dude in the hood ne1 can relate to their moms bein a bitch their girl bein a slut u fuked up wit no money all u do is smoke n go to work how many people can honestly relate to poppin bottle of crystal wit beyonce or whippin a maybach or cuttin a brick (which i dont think hov ever did maybe an onion bout not a bricknewayssss)n battles r u fukin retarted eminem is a battle rapper hell eat ne1 in rap up on the mic the only person i c givin him compo is jada hov aint nasty nasty on the mic like homey said give me ur best jay line n ill give u an eminem line 10x better then it.so many lines popiin in my head n fuck u n ur lil hint of racism wats mccain got to do wit it like i tell white people if ur racist its ok just dont hide it if u want to say eminem aint over hov cuz hes white say it dont addd in a lil ..o wats next mccains a better president smh
October 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
Man some of yall holding on to renegade to much…one effin song bruh, Em is dope ill give yall that but…i just dont see it no matter how many words he rhymes that arent suppose to rhyme…is he better than Jay-Z…and i think its bullshit that vibe said Em was number 1,…they should say Eminem was voted #1*asterisk…(many fans of Jay-Z dont have a computer let alone internet access, and our white readers make of 40% of our auidence)…then it would be no need for discussion!!….and besides who in the hell frequents…vibe.com…only way i found out is cuz of Niketalk
October 7th, 2008 at 2:35 pm
FUCK SALES IM A REGULAR FAN NOT HIS ACCOUNTANT!SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, IF YOU LIKE A RAPPER BUT HE DONT SELL….YOU DONT LIKE HIM ANY MORE!!!THIS RAP GAME IS OVER. BUM FANS WITH REGULAR 9-5′S HOLDING MF’S TO HIGH STANDARDS!!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
FUCK SALES IM A REGULAR FAN NOT HIS ACCOUNTANT!SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT, IF YOU LIKE A RAPPER BUT HE DONT SELL….YOU DONT LIKE HIM ANY MORE!!!THIS RAP GAME IS OVER. BUM FANS WITH REGULAR 9-5′S HOLDING MF’S TO HIGH STANDARDS!!BUNCH OF GROUPIES.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
reasonable doubt >>>>>marshal mathers
blue print>>>>>>> The eminem show
the black album >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> encore
and all the people talking about album sales that must make 50 better than jay
jay has done everthing to be called the best rapper alive may be the goat what has eminem done we all no he a good lyricst and crazy but come on he anit made a good album since marshal mathers
it crazy that u lot saying eminem better when jay drops a next song u all calling him the goat u niggers are CRAZY
October 7th, 2008 at 2:38 pm
im back eminem is a great story teller example that song “stan”. Im a BIG JAY-Z fan since 1998. Eminem is the SHIT. Yall cant even a rapper right now even comes close to eminem lyrically dont give me that “wayne bullshit”.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
i feel u #43, but dats my point on how people can judge whos betta out of any rapper. dont git me wrong i think jays more marketable seeing how he has like 10 albums and Em only got 4 i think. i like jay but Em got him lyrically. and bak to sales, i mean cum on being an artist is like being a major soda company. whoeva sales the most soda is the best soda company wit the most costumers. when ur an artist wit as many fans as EM, 50, Kanye. u gotta look at the facts. but whos better lyrically is always a different story
October 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
if eminem best rapper alive why cant lil wayne be and i hate wayne
October 7th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
lol lil does 45 know that 70 percent of the people that buy jayzs records r.wait for it ………….lol…….WHITE WHITE WHITE………LOL ITS TRUE IF U DONT BELIEVE ME LOOK IT UP
October 7th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
#32 County of Kings) i agree w/ everything u jus said i forgot Em made the beat for that song.
p.s GAYCENT IS ON HIS WAY W/ A COMMENT ANYTIME NOW.
P.S 2COOL4U IS NOT LIKE U?
October 7th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
I DONT EVEN CARE.THEY BOTH LEGENDS IN MY BOOK
SO IT DONT EVEN MATTER WHO WON.I FUCKS WITH BOTH
THEY BOTH PUT OUT CLASSICS IMO..AND NIGEL UR A DUMB
AZZ NIGGA..STOP THE MADNESS???
October 7th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
#44, I think you should do what your name says and Smarten Up
MANY OF JAYZ’S FANS DONT HAVE COMPUTERS?!?!?!?!?! ARE U FUCKING SERIOUS?! BLACK PEOPLE DONT HAVE COMPUTERS????!?! I HOPE YOUR BLACK CUZ SAYIN SOME DUMB SHIT LIKE THAT WILL GET U MERKED… smh… that’s the definition of reaching right there.. Most people prefer Jay over Em because Jay makes that “hood” music. There’s thousands of rappers that rap about the same shit Jay does. Now name me some rappers who talk about the shit Em talks about? How many rappers can do what Em does? Say what he says? Eminem is completely original. Jay’s been biting niggas lyrics (including Em) for the longest.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
Nigel, what is wrong with you?
Stop the madness!?
Eminem is a better MC than jay-z, nothing special with that.
Maybe jay-z have done better albums and is black, but still Eminem is a better rapper!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
#44 fuck you taking about
“many fans of Jay-Z dont have a computer let alone internet access” LOL!!!!!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Wow. Are you guys even getting whats being said here. It says “Best rapper ALIVE”, so that automatically disqualifies Biggie and Pac. Secondly, it doesnt count who’s dropped the most recent album or what not(RTNY? seriously, u should know this). It’s based purely on the skills on the mic’, so judge on that.
Sorry to disappoint you jay stans, but I’d pick Em over jay though. Jay is nice but he’s not on Em’s lvl.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Wow. Are you guys even getting whats being said here? It says “Best rapper ALIVE”, so that automatically disqualifies Biggie and Pac. Secondly, it doesnt count who’s dropped the most recent album or what not(RTNY? seriously, u should know this). It’s based purely on the skills on the mic’, so judge on that.
Sorry to disappoint you jay stans, but I’d pick Em over jay though. Jay is nice but he’s not on Em’s lvl.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
EM is cool, but JAY is the best rapper alive right now! Where was this contest/survey held? in Detroit or something? Bias survey IMO.
October 7th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Race is an issue whether you like to admit that or not. Whites can relate better to Em and majority of people who buy hiphop albums are white folks and I bet you majority of the the people who voted were white too so really no surprise that EM won with 69%
October 7th, 2008 at 2:47 pm
WAT U THOUGH EMINEM WAS THE ONLY RAPPER THAT HAS A MAJORITY OF WHITE FANS NOOOOOO THATS HIPH OHPS DIRTY LIL SECRET WHITE FANS BUY ALMOST 70 PERCENT OF THE MUSIC YUP THATS RIGHT N NOT BUBBLGUM ACTS ETHER THAT MEANS JEEZY,TI,ALL UR FAVORITES LIL WAYNE THE MOST NIGGERISH OF ALL HIP HOP MUSIC ROFF AT THE IGNORANCE OF MANY 70 PERCENT OF HOVS CDS R BOUGHT BY WHITEY SO I GUESS THEY DO GOT COMPUTERS CUZ NO BLACK PERSON HAVE COMPUTERS RIGHT OR MINORITYS FOR THAT MATTER MATTA FACT WATS A COMPUTER 45 IF WHITEY MAKES UP FOR 40 PERCENT …THEN WTF IS THE OTHER 60 PERCENT(60 BEING THE BIGGER NUMBER.)BLACK STUPID YES BLACK N I MKSOOO GLAD ITS VIBE THAT VOTED EM CUZ THATS THE BLACKEST MAGAZINE U GOT N U STILL CHALLENGE IT LOL WAT DOES IT GOTTA B FEDS MAGAZINE N THEN YALL ACCEPT IT SMH
October 7th, 2008 at 2:48 pm
jay-z
nas
they better than eminem end of
October 7th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
NAs should be over both of them!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Eminem has been able to maintain his actual consistency for a long time now.
Jay-Z is great too, no doubt about it. But if you look at the actual soundscan you’ll see that the general public doesn’t consider him the best artist. Em has sold over 16 million records off of one album. Internationally Eminem is a monster and can’t be touched. I myself have been able to create a space where I’m dominant in the world market. I think Eminem deserves the title as best rapper alive. Check the actual sales.
Before I Self Destruct coming December!
http://www.thisis50.com
October 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
NAS THE SAME GUY THAT HAD 2 CLASSIC ALBUMS 2 GOOD ONES N LIKE 15 TRASH ONES THAT NAS
October 7th, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Ummmm, Em hasnt put out any new material in like 4 YEARS! People change and shit changes. HOV has been consistent for 11 consecutive years, 10 albums later, tied up there with ELVIS. How many albums has Em put out…like 3? lol. How can you even compare the two. It’s ludicrous! Why? Cuz Em took some time off and gave people time to miss him? When Em has some consistency, about 7 more LP’s, and years of relevance within the game under his belt then MAYBE there would be something to compare, but right now there is NO COMPARISON! I mean damn!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Eminem has been able to maintain his actual consistency for a long time now.
Jay-Z is great too, no doubt about it. But if you look at the actual soundscan you’ll see that the general public doesn’t consider him the best artist. Em has sold over 16 million records off of one album. Internationally Eminem is a monster and can’t be touched. I myself have been able to create a space where I’m dominant in the world market. I think Eminem deserves the title as best rapper alive. Check the actual sales.
Before I Self Destruct coming December!
October 7th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
920,000 people have spoken
October 7th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
fuck jay-z and eminem! NAS is better than both of them! NAs, Jay, then Em!
Nas tells the shit that dumb niggas listening to Jay-z need to hear! Jay-z fans too busy on the corner or acting like they on a corner!
October 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Yes simply because 70% of those voters prolly never listened to jay or dont automaticly feel him the way they do em… simple… and em sells WAY more then jay on a daily basis lol so there you go nothing amazing
October 7th, 2008 at 3:01 pm
Em seems like the type of talented rapper that would burn out. Which is why he took such a hiatus. He can never go years straight with consistency. When he was last on the scene, he had that fire due to his f*cked up past. All of his LPs were based on how f*cked up his life was, with either Hailey, his Moms and his chick. So, we’ll see what his driving force is with this upcoming LP…But dont be disappointed if he’s not quite the same…And if he does come with the fire, he’s had 4 YEARS to compile all of this material…
But regardless of anything, no one has proven themselves quite like HOV. He’s a force to be with reckoned with and hands down the best rapper we got in this industry with Nas close behind. F*ck Vibe! Their not hip hop anyways! And, 920,000 votes when there are 200 million US citizens aint shit! lol.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
DAMn I Wasnt GoNna RespoNd BecausE this is NoNesEnsE That thEy WouLd ChOosE Em Over JiGga!!…Em is # 2 JiGga is # 1…point blank over 10 albums and Still relevant to hiphop point blank his debut album was in 96 and its 08 12 years and still running shyyt!!…His Lines are quotable wheneva whereeva howeva u can quote a jay-Z verse!!….His Business mind brought him outside the rap world and hes taking advantage of That!!..and his Lyrics is way above average wit his double entaundras…i was listen to american gangsters last night and i was picking up gems thats i didnt even know was there!!..Thats the different wit Hov his music is timeless becuz no matter what u can always go back in his collection and find sumthing new that u didnt get from the first second or third time listening!!…Eminem indeed rip renegade but everybody seems to be basing it on that!!…Blueprint 3 or king Mathers either way both will be classic material but i gotta gives it 2 jigga check out his credentials
October 7th, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I love Em, but he can’t beat Jay-z. Line for line, Jay can rap over anything, you never Em on a hot R&B cut, you never heard Em destory another big name rapper in a song, you never heard Em on a hot club joint, you never Em with a pop singer(I know people will hate on that one).I could go on and on about what Jay-z has done and Em hasn’t. Em is extremly smart with his career he knows his limits abilites. Jay-Z has no limits. The answer will come on the next album. We’ll see what happens with his (Eminem) return
October 7th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
he came in the game dissin britney spears and nsync, thats how he got on, he talks suicide and killin his mother. white ppl in middle america eat that shit up. he was a dope mc, but not better than hov. other than “lose yourself” and “stan” em doesnt have hiphop classics under his belt
jayz has a long list of classics, whether or not he’s fallen off now, his catalog is timeless,
em was too contreversial and gimmicky for me to take seriously, he came from dre, who used contreversy to sell, then he birthed 50 to the world, who uses contreversy to sell. that disqualifies you, using contreversy so ppl recognize ur talent is wack and not hiphop
p.s. back in 88, they voted vanilla ice the best rapper too.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
who gives a shit when he dropped an album? his albums shit all over jay’s albums. his lyircal content and ability to switch between two types of rappers and do shit differently that no one else can do distinguishes him from other rappers and puts him on another level. he could be serious, he could be stupid, he can do whatever he wants and that’s what makes him the best. it’s not about white or black, it’s about overall “rapping”. you can’t tell me jay-z doesn’t have songs about the typical money, cash, cars, hoes because he does.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
mighty whitey baby!
he cleaned up all the mess that vanilla ice and marky mark made.
eminem murdered jay-z on his own shit remember?people thought that way before nas said it in ether.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Eminem is not even the top 5 you have not put out a record in almost five years and its not like ur last album was classic either it was probably ur worst album homie that some real bullshit
October 7th, 2008 at 3:12 pm
@ 52 and 54…its called sarcasm!…but if i was serious i really dont think it is to far fetched, you do know the poverty rate of our people right?!?!…52 you a dumb nigga bruh, you over there spazin at the computer screen, you sound white fool…talkin bout Jay make hood music!…em is orginial cuz he is a cold as white rapper…Jay is the best cuz all the other rappers say the so called same thing…but dont touch Hov when it come to putting those words togther!!…One question…”Did you even have any doubt after DOUBT,it was over?!?!?”…dawg and even tho i was jokin wit the computer line, if yall really feel everybody has a computer yall some dickheads!!…i guess erybody got an ipod to huh or rims?
October 7th, 2008 at 3:14 pm
I agree 100% with these results. Eminem will lyrically assassinate anyone in the rap game!!
October 7th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
This isnt madness. I think people missed the fact that Vibe is doing this and Eminem has a past with Vibe that isnt positive. They are trying to get back on his good side for some reason.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Has Em every roc a Glastonbury concert’ NO but i think he would do fabolous there? Y White! mybe.
Jay-z came out in 1996 drop about 10 albums major battles “Nas”, Em came out in 1999 or 2000 and drop 4 albums no major battle “no Ja rule” don’t count.
#42 Halo albums sales(any black rapper have a concert 80% of the ppl is white right. Black ppl are 16% i think in this country the rest is white or others.
p.s if i was white i support Em too “kill my mother, kill kim, hey Hailie i luv u daddy, taking shots a gay pop stars
he is the greatest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SHITTTTT
P.S 2COOL4U IS JUST LIKE U
October 7th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
what eminem only has 1 good album lol rest eminem albums is same as kingdom come
October 7th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
@ 52 and 54…its called sarcasm!…but if i was serious i really dont think it is to far fetched, you do know the poverty rate of our people right?!?!…52 you a dumb nigga bruh, you over there spazin at the computer screen, you sound white fool…talkin bout Jay make “hood” music…its great music!…em is orginial cuz he is a cold azz white rapper…Jay is the best cuz all the other rappers say the so called same thing…but dont touch Hov when it come to putting those words togther!!…One question…”Did you even have any doubt after DOUBT,it was over?!?!?”…dawg and even tho i was jokin wit the computer line, if yall really feel everybody has a computer yall some @!ckheads!!…i guess erybody got an ipod to huh?
October 7th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
U guys need to realize that this is what the people that voted not Vibes pick, if u guys dont agree then u shouldve voted!!@
October 7th, 2008 at 3:23 pm
God these list are so stupid and u guys are stupid for arguing for either jay z or Em, who gives a fuck?? as long as u like the artist then hats all the should matter. everybody is different and everybody has got opinions
October 7th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
jay-z all day
October 7th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
yea u right i could give a fuck if my girl or my homie likes jayz as long as i do
October 7th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Got 2 ask but Reasonable Doubt and Illmatic is CLASSIC CLASSIC, do Eminem have a CLASSIC album that can stand with these two.
p.s my guess is HELL NO!! 2COOL4U IS JUST LIKE U? HIPHOP BITCH.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
its all a moote point because Nas is betta than both of them
October 7th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
i agree with them em is number 1 but Jay is 2nd. Can’t nobody take Jay’s props from him
October 7th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
Em is great, but we all have to realize that he gets even more props b/c he’s a novelty due to his skin color. Its both a disservice to Em and the rest of rap. Em deserves respect for his dedication to the art and his skills, while other rappers may be just as skilled Em gets a headstart b/c he’s more acceptable to the mainstream
- http://WWW.MRSWAGGER.COM
October 7th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
REASONABLE DOUBT TRACK #6 D’EVILS
Hav to skool some of u ni**as, hold up wait i mean white folk…
No1 can tell me jayz wordplay on that track isnt sick, em cant touch that…
October 7th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
I jus luv how everytime a jay-z and eminem discussion comes up, ppl always talk about 1 record, renegade. and jus because eminem impressed ppl on renegade he better than jay-z. em’s verses were hard, but yall should compare other records and verses. Em’s a beast but i wouldnt put him over jay.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
lol i didnt even cast my vote, so that list is voided.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
Funny how many people don’t even read the article. It’s not VIBE’s pick. It’s the fans who voted
October 7th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
I agree that Eminem is better than jay z. first off marshall mathers lp and eminem show is as good as any jay z album, em is a better rapper when it comes to beef, case in point jay z losing to nas, hes more versatile he can rap about anything.em has put out less albums and has made a bigger impact, jay has had good albums but few classics, blueprint and reasonable doubt. its all a matter of opinion whos the best i don’t think its jay but many people would argue i would say nas, eminem 2 pac or biggie.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:52 pm
I fuck wit Eminem hard but there is no way in any hip-hop list that jay-z, nas, and outkast (even tho they a group) not above him
they all been in the game longer, got more classics on they belts, and since Eminem aint drop albums they still been puttin in work 4real.
(Outkast on remixes, Kingdom Come, AG, Untitled, Hip Hop is Dead)
October 7th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
Jay>>>Wayne>>>>Em.
Thats all. White boys are running wild on the interent voting for Em, thats how he won.
October 7th, 2008 at 3:53 pm
man that just go to show u what hip hop has come to its officially dead i mean dont get me wrong i like em and i think his a good rapper but comon not better then jay z but fuck it its whatever hip hop is done ya niggas better go listen to rock or reggaeton lol
October 7th, 2008 at 3:56 pm
where’s the madness with that, jayz-z’s a skilled rapper no doubt but he doesnt have that element of just blowing u away and captivating u when u listen to his music.
it goes like this, in terms of originality, flow and charisma, which is all ppl look 4 in a rapper
1. tupac
2. biggie
3. eminem..ppl just 4get 4 a second that he’s white..listen his first 2 albums
the first 2 rappers are dead so who think is the best alive, seriously think about it?
October 7th, 2008 at 3:57 pm
o yeah this ting was set up so that jayz would get far, his competition was people like diddy, kanye foxy brown don’t belive me check it out. whereas nas had people like em, joe budden, jadakiss in his bracket. even though vibe set it up for jay to win the people spoke, he is not the best rapper alive, end of. nas or em is the greatest alive today
October 7th, 2008 at 3:59 pm
white kids voted for him!LOL the real best raper is shaty LO
October 7th, 2008 at 4:00 pm
@ 83 cosign…i use that track erytime, it gets no better than HOV…
“my hand around her collar, feeding her cheese, she said the taste of dollars was shitty, so I feed her fiftys, about his whereabouts i was convinced, so i kept feeding her money till her shit started to make sense/cents”…thats Jay 1st album…
“Your now in the game where only time can tell, survive the droughts i wish you well(hol up) survive the droughts I wish you well, how sick am i…i wish you health, i wish you wheels, i wish you wealth..i wish you insight so you can see for urself”…thats Jay last album…
He is still the illest…
October 7th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
and thats just some lines, thats not saying hov is the best cuz of those…please dont bombard the post with Eminem lines talking bout how he will kill a dude chop em in pieces type shit where he aint saying nutin relevant but just makin words rhyme…if thats the kinda a rap yall like…then no wonder lil wayne calls himself the best rapper alive!
October 7th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
Nigel…you’re stupid.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:04 pm
TOP 10 GREATEST RAPPERS ALIVE
Gucci Mane
Flo-Rida
Soulja Boy
Swiss Beats
Shawty Lo
Trick Daddy
Baby/Birdman
Nelly
Hurricane Chris
Chingy
DID I LEAVE ANYBODY OFF DIS LIST?
October 7th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
#97 kill your self nigga str8 up real talk u bumb ass nigga
October 7th, 2008 at 4:16 pm
Let’s be real, what’s the matter on all of that???, this ain’t gonna change anything in our lives, all we gotta do is congratulate Em, i like Em as much as Hov, as much as many other rappers, let’s enjoy the music, anyway this title of Best Rapper Alive sounds strange, it’s like death sentence, i don’t know, it just doesn’t sound good.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
it was VOTING. so vibe readers decided it.
i didn’t vote. others who don’t pay attention to vibe don’t vote.
that’s what fucking annoys me. when the power gives the people a chance to have their voice heard, bitches like RTNY start saying its madness.
wtf
October 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm
when krs one calling jay-z greatest lyricist of all time u no he the goat
http://link.brightcove.com/services/link/bcpid607767144/bctid1252300798
October 7th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Personally, I’m shocked at the audacity behind the title
here. Granted, this is a blog (not a hip-hop editorial), and
there is never such a thing as an ‘invalid’ opionion.. but I
certainly don’t feel that Eminems vote over Jay-Z as best rapper warrants a “Stop The Madness” post by any stretch of the imagination.
IMHO, BOTH emcees clearly are both competent enough, and have
been established long enough in the game to deserve equal (albeit subjective) measures of acclaim.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
#97 probably some 13 yr old nigga thinkin soulja boy the truth. em in sick with the flow. hov a business mogul and entrepreneur, but em is the sickest alive
October 7th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
fuck the dumb iliterate negro who posted this “stop the madness” shit. what, eminem cant be the best because he’s white?
they should’ve never given you niggas computers.
eminem forever!
oh yeah and mccain for president!!
October 7th, 2008 at 4:50 pm
Lol@This Post Turning People Against Jay-z ..And Lmao!!!@Realtalk For Putting Madness ..This Isn’t Madness .It’s Just Peoples Opinion…But To Me Em Is More Lyrical Than Jay Just Like Nas ..But Being Better Overall, I Don’t Know .Thats a Tough One Both Are Dope.But.Imma Have To Go With Jay On This One.
the commander and chief just flew
by, didn’t stop though he had a couple seats just rude, jet blue he is not
jet blew by the spot
what if he ran out of jet fuel and
just dropped
that’d been something to watch-jay minority Report .From Kingdom Come
That Album Is So Underrated .That Was Jay Showing His Lyrical And Side .But People Didn’t Like It Because He Wasn’t Talkin Drugs And Street Shid Like On All His Other Records ..The Lyrics On That Whole Album Was On Point.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Go listen to Renegade you faggots.
October 7th, 2008 at 4:55 pm
And Political**********
October 7th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
I really like Em. he defo one of the best to ever blessed a mic but
career for career line for line Jay is undisputed
@ # 6 Leon “920 000 have spoken”
We all know the hood doesn’t vote on this kind of contest otherwise Jay would be far ahead.
October 7th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
Motherfuckers -
say that I’m foolish I only talk about jewels (bling bling)
Do you fools listen to music or do you just skim through it?
See I’m influenced by the ghetto you ruined
That same dude you gave nothin, I made somethin doin
what I do through and through and
I give you the news - with a twist it’s just his ghetto point-of-view
The renegade; you been afraid
I penetrate pop culture, bring ‘em a lot closer to the block where they
pop toasters, and they live with they moms
Got dropped roasters, from botched robberies niggaz crotched over
Mommy’s knocked up cause she wasn’t watched over
Knocked down by some clown when child support knocked
No he’s not around - now how that sound to ya, jot it down
I bring it through the ghetto without ridin ’round
hidin down duckin strays from frustrated youths stuck in they ways
Just read a magazine that fucked up my day
How you rate music that thugs with nothin relate to it?
I help them see they way through it - not you
Can’t step in my pants, can’t walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth; you lose your tie and your shirt
[Eminem]
Since I’m in a position to talk to these kids and they listen
I ain’t no politician but I’ll kick it with ‘em a minute
Cause see they call me a menace; and if the shoe fits I’ll wear it
But if it don’t, then y’all’ll swallow the truth grin and bear it
Now who’s these king of these rude ludicrous lucrative lyrics
Who could inherit the title, put the youth in hysterics
usin his music to steer it sharin his views in his marriage
But there’s a huge interference - they’re sayin you shouldn’t hear it
Maybe it’s hatred I spew, maybe it’s food for the spirit
Maybe it’s beautiful music I made for you to just cherish
But I’m debated disputed hated and viewed in America
as a motherfuckin drug addict - like you didn’t experiment?
Now now, that’s when you start to stare at who’s in the mirror
and see yourself as a kid again, and you get embarrased
And I got nothin to do but make you look stupid as parents
You fuckin do-gooders - too bad you couldn’t do good at marriage!
(Ha ha!) And do you have any clue what I had to do to get here I don’t
think you do so stay tuned and keep your ears glued to the stereo
Cause here we go - he’s {*Jigga joint Jigga-chk-Jigga*}
And I’m the sinister, Mr. Kiss-My-Ass it’s just the
[Chorus: Eminem + Jay-Z]
[Em] RENEGADE! Never been afraid to say
what’s on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I’m a RENEGADE! Never been afraid to talk
about anything (ANYTHING) anything (ANYTHING), RENEGADE!
[Jay] Never been afraid to say
what’s on my mind at, any given time of day
Cause I’m a {RENEGADE} Never been afraid to holler
about anything {anything?} Anything {ANYTHING!}
[Jay-Z]
I had to hustle, my back to the wall, ashy knuckles
Pockets filled with a lot of lint, not a cent
Gotta vent, lot of innocent of lives lost on the project bench
Whatchu hollerin? Gotta pay rent, bring dollars in
By the bodega, iron under my coat, feelin braver
Doo-rag wrappin my waves up, pockets full of hope
Do not step to me - I’m awkward, I box leftier often
My pops left me an orphan, my momma wasn’t home
Could not stress to me I wasn’t grown; ’specially on nights
I brought somethin home to quiet the stomach rumblings
My demeanor - thirty years my senior
My childhood didn’t mean much, only raisin green up
Raisin my fingers to critics; raisin my head to the sky
Big I did it - multi before I die (nigga)
No lie, just know I chose my own fate
I drove by the fork in the road and went straight
[Eminem]
See I’m a poet to some, a regular modern day Shakespeare
Jesus Christ the King of these Latter Day Saints here
To shatter the picture in which of that as they paint me
as a monger of hate and Satan a scatter-brained atheist
But that ain’t the case, see it’s a matter of taste
We as a people decide if Shady’s as bad as they say he is
Or is he the latter - a gateway to escape?
Media scapegoat, who they can be mad at today
See it’s easy as cake, simple as whistlin Dixie
while I’m wavin the pistol at sixty Christians against me
Go to war with the Mormons, take a bath with the Catholics
in holy water - no wonder they try to hold me under longer
I’m a motherfuckin spiteful, DELIGHTFUL eyeful
The new Ice Cube - motherfuckers HATE to like you
What did I do? (huh?) I’m just a kid from the gutter
makin this butter off these bloodsuckers, cause I’m a muh’fuckin
whats your defination of bodied? murked? are u kidding me?
hovi hov is the coldest, just gettin better with time im like opus
October 7th, 2008 at 5:16 pm
Stop crying you Jay-Z stans all that needs to be said is Renegade, you going on like Eminem is some average rapper with the headline stop the madness ? WTF ? only rappers better than Eminem is 2 Pac and Nas and possily Rakim but Eminem is definitley top 5 dead or fucking alive show the man some fucking respect.
Kingdom Come - Garbage
American Gangster - Average
Blue Print 3 ? Lets wait and see ……
October 7th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
How you rate music that thugs with nothin relate to it?
I help them see they way through it - not you
Can’t step in my pants, can’t walk in my shoes
Bet everything you worth; you lose your tie and your shirt
October 7th, 2008 at 5:20 pm
go watch the reasonable doubt documentary, even hov is amazed at his own wordplay
October 7th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
“Stop The Madness”…..WTF IS THESE PPL TALKING ABOUT? “MADNESS”??
ON SOME REAL TALK EMINEM IS THE BETTER LYRICIST NO QUESTION ABOUT IT. SHIT CAN’T EVEN BE AN ARGUMENT ON THAT. BUT HIP-HOP IS A MORE OF ‘WHAT HAVE YOU DONE LATELY’ AND JAY-Z HAS BEEN MORE CONSISTANT. KINGDOME COME AND AMERICAN GANGSTER HAVE DROPPED SINCE EM’S LAST PROJECT. SO I WOULD HAVE TO GO WITH JAY-Z AS THE MORE CONSISTANT RAPPER. BUT VIBE’S POLL WAS ABOUT WHO IS BETTER. AND EMINEM IS BETTER THAN JAY-Z REAL TALK. AND JAY-Z IS MY FAVORITE RAPPER BUT THAT’S WORD EMINEM IS BETTER…
MARSHAL MATHERS LP
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REASONABLE DOUBT IMO
October 7th, 2008 at 5:30 pm
how many of yall who commented actually bump your eminem cd in ur ride maybe the first 2 he drop but after dat all he did was make me laugh wit those silly songs he still a nice ass rapper n he is better then most the ppl in hip hop but is it me or did he run outta shit to talk about listen to his last 2 disc. he still the man but jay z nor eminem is better then Nas and any hip hop legend will tell you dat.
October 7th, 2008 at 5:41 pm
the commander and chief just flew
by, didn’t stop though he had a couple seats just rude, jet blue he is not
jet blew by the spot
what if he ran out of jet fuel and
just dropped
…lyrics like that is what ppl consider to be lyrical and i could never figure why?and most of jay’s rhymes are of that nature..it sounds smart cuz it hard to get at first so u gotta rewind..but after u hear it again u put it all together and he’s not sayin much, most of what he says is actually dum
to me lyrical is this 4 example
who could tell she’d get pregnant at an early age? (what?!)
She didn’t listen, had sex, watch her belly raise (hey)
Got violated by someone she dated, if this is fate
I’d hate to see the seeds she created, and so we waited
Though it takes time to build a body and a mind
She reclines nine months then finally it’s time
What do we find? Little growing boy of mine
With a tortured soul, addicted to a life of crime
Had no time for the growing stage
He learned his values on the streets at an early age
Watch for police, don’t come home (why?)
Cuz Mama’s acting crazy at the hospital
About to have another baby, like a rose from the concrete
Growing within, blessed with twins
How the hell can Mama raise three men?
So we began, closest family, such insanity
A happy home from one act of inhumanity - tupac
now that’s lyrical..if u wanna talk about complex rhymes that’s it, cuz there’s a deeper meaning to it, it’s morethan just what u hear…
i swear niggaz is stupid, ppl claim jay-z’s rhymes are complex but is it really ?
anyways jay-z’s ok but not even close to being the best ever and definitely not the best alive…em wins that 4 sure
October 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
This is all opinion based first of all… In my opinion Jay z is the best rapper ever but i definetly understand someone taking Em over Jay… What I dont understand is why people keep bringing up renegade like its the only song Jay z ever recorded??? Yes Em’s verse was better but that by no means AUTOMATICALLY makes him better than Jay. Thats the only justification i keep seeing that he is better, “Just listen to renegade and you will see why em is better!!” If thats the only justification yall got then thats wack as hell. I got plenty of why Jay is the best, here’s just a few….
1. He’s consistent, he drops hit after hit since resonable doubt. (and no im not saying all his albums are is good as RD)
2. You can clearly see his growth, both as an emcee and as a man…
3. His flow and delivery are 2nd to none, he can rap slow, fast, and he fits on damn near any song, from a Nas track (Black President) to Raphael Saadiq (Oh Girl rmx) to Amy Whinehouse (Rehab)
And its plenty more reasons so eminem fans please put somethin else other than renegade….
October 7th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
EM HAS NOT DROPPED SINCE 04. PLUS WHEN I TURN ON THE RADIO I HEAR MORE JAY-Z MUSIC THAN ANY ARTIST PERIOD….I DONT EVEN REMEMBER WHEN THEY EVEN PLAYED EM ON HOT 97. OH YEAH I FORGOT OLD SCHOOL AT NOON WITH MISTA CEE.
October 7th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
yh 4real how much of you bump ur eminem cd lol
and that guy who said kingdom come garbage american ganster avrage
Kingdom Come - Garbage
American Gangster - Average
american ganster>>>>>>Encore
kingdom come was wak but i fink it was better than eminem show what songs on that album was good??????????????????? on a real eminem used to be my fav rapper then he droped dumb songs for the messed up children
some 1 need to count how much a eminem fan said renegade because that only fin he got over jay lol
October 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
4get the roc,beyonce,the money, and all that other shit
mc versus mc em is better…..that being said jay has had a much better career much better albums etc
October 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
PLUS WHO IN MY HOOD THRU OUT BROOKLYN LISTEN TO EM. BESIDES THE CAUCASIONS??????????????????
EM HAS MORE TO PROVE THEN EVER BEFORE. WILL FANS ACCEPT HIS GIMMICK RAPS NOWADAYS….ALL DUDE THOSE IS HIBERNATE…. HE HAS NO REAL CONTACT WITH THE STREETS ANYMORE BESIDES 50 AND D-12.
I REALLY DONT EVEN WANT TO HEAR HIM TALK ABOUT HIS MOMS OR BABYMOTHER ANYMORE…. DUDE IS REALLY STRANGE…. HE BASHES HIS BABE MOMS THRU-OUT RECORDS THEN LEAVES HER SHE HAS ANOTHER KID FROM ANOTHER DUDE THEN EM GOES BACK TO HER AND MARRYS HER…..
MAN…..
October 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
Impossible…Em’s classics are…Marshall Mathers LP, anddddddddddd…go head, I’ll wait….
October 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
jay can rap on nearly every beat he more diverse than eminem
October 7th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
PLUS MTV IS NO LONGER THEIR WITH TRL AND MUSIC VIDEOS. THEY CATAPULTED HIS CAREER…..
October 7th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
October 7th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
ok if someone mentions renegade one more time. ok maybe eminem did do better on a track that he originally made/produced and had prepared way before jay even knew he was making a fucking album. smh eminem on paper is a great rapper but he doesnt have the years to back him not to take anything away from him but jay is 11 albums in he started in 96. you can say jay-z is a biter all you want but listen to “brooklyns finest” and tell me he didnt get off just as much as BIG. in ‘08 hes still outshining people on their tracks. eminem is a great lyricist but to be a great hip hop artist it takes much more. a mean flow, swag, charisma, and jay has everyone of those plus wordplay. its kind of sad that half of you dont understand hip hop. em is a close second, my word is gospel!
October 7th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
^^^lol it’s not a matter of how many alnums or what not, this is just based on rapping ability and skill. just picture a freestyle between em and jay. picture it in ur head, im sure in ur thoughts it’s not looking too good for jay is it? excatly my point…skin colour aside,eminem is a beast he’ll rip apart any living rapper.
cosign #112 truth
October 7th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Renegade, people…..Renegade
October 7th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
THE LIST AS FOLLOWS:
1)JAY-Z
2)NAS
3)ANDRE 300
4)EM
5)WEEZY
October 7th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
THESE RAPPERS NAME ON MY LIST HAVE STAYED RELEVANT IN THESE NEW TIMES NEITHER HAVE FALLEN OFF. ONLY EM HAS BEEN IN A HIATUS……
October 7th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
THIS IS EM SWAG. A RED OR WHITE JUMPSUIT WITH A RED OR WHITE CAP ON…..THATS SWAGGA…….PLZZZZZ……
October 7th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
i like jay z, but for a guy who said he retired, and came back months later is kinda lame.
DONT SAY im retiring and come back and drop 3 more albums!!! FUCK (3rd not yet released, i kno)
His last two were shit, YA thats right, on not cuz im a hater or w.e but becuase they werent at the potential he is able to produce at.
im glad Em won, but A LOT of blacks disagree ( im not racist, shut up) and yes it is cuz hes white, and if a black person wud say, nothing is wrong with that. But if it was a white saying that about black, well then hes a fuking racist.
I Hate That
Good Job Em
October 7th, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Realtalk is truly an idiot for putting MADNESS in the title. What’s so mad about it?
With that said, I think Hov is better. He has way less bad songs than Eminem. Em tends to make some 4’s and 5’s from time to time. Hov constantly is on a level 7-10.
October 7th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
No Hook
Success
Say Hello
Roc Boys
Pray
American Dreamin’
I Know
Fallin’
AG wack? please make these deaf muthafuckas stop posting
October 7th, 2008 at 6:22 pm
i like jay z, but for a guy who said he retired, and came back months later is kinda lame.
DONT SAY im retiring and come back and drop 3 more albums!!! FUCK (3rd not yet released, i kno)
His last two were shit, YA thats right, on not cuz im a hater or w.e but becuase they werent at the potential he is able to produce at.
im glad Em won, but A LOT of blacks disagree ( im not racist, shut up) and yes it is cuz hes white, and if a black person wud say, nothing is wrong with that. But if it was a white saying that about black, well then hes a fuking racist.
I Hate That
Good Job Em
eminem said he retired as well and he coming back ain’t that kinda lame??
October 7th, 2008 at 6:32 pm
Everyone, please look at comment number 97. Dude is a joker! Sarcasm at it’s best! Lol!
October 7th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
IT’S LIKE THIS I KNOW EM IS VERY LYRICAL, BUT I DON’T OWN NOT ONE EM ALBUM BECAUSE I DON’T RELATE TO HIS TYPE OF MUSIC SO OF COURSE IMMA HAVE TO GO WITH HOV,FOR INSTANCE I BELIEVE TALIB KWALI IS A BETTER MC THEN HOV,BUT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO WHAT U CAN RELATE 2 A LOT OF ARTIST SPIT THAT FLOSSIN,DRUG SELLING,CHAMPAGNE POPPIN BUT WHO PUT TOGETHER BETTER THEN HOV NONE OF THEM,IT’S LIKE A BUNCH OF U IDIOTS ARE SAYING HOV HAVE TO PROVE HIMSELF OVER AGAIN FOR WHAT? HOW BOUT U GO OUT N COPPED REASONABLE DOUBT AND LISTEN TO WHAT THIS MAN WAS SPITTIN IN 96…LIKE THEY SAY U HAVE TO DUMB IT DOWN TO GET RICH …BOTTOM LINE FUCK A VOTE…REASONABLE DOUBT= HIP HOP BIBLE
October 7th, 2008 at 6:38 pm
American Gangster is the best rap album since its release hands down…i dont care what no 1 says…and when he performs those songs live the shit is even more crazier!!…Hov the best rapper ever period!! @130 your wildin…its not cuz em is white, its cuz his content…Hov is the best all around
October 7th, 2008 at 6:39 pm
I’m black and i voted for Em. I haven’t bought a Jay-z album since the black album. I can’t relate to him anymore. I don’t care how much money u got or the type of suits u wearing/And I happen to wear suits for work.
October 7th, 2008 at 6:41 pm
LOL@HOW FIFTY HAVE U NUCCAZ THINKIN ALBUM SALES MEANS U NICE
October 7th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Em is better then Jay. Even though Jay has amazing lyricskills, he just does’nt make it as good as Em does it. It’s something special with Em. He brings some magic in 2 it
October 7th, 2008 at 6:51 pm
#145@ANIHILATOR. GET WAYNE OFF THAT LIST. WAYNE CANT EVEN COME CLOSE TO NAS OR JAY-Z OR EM. WAYNE IS HOT CRAP.
October 7th, 2008 at 6:55 pm
so now em is whoodini…smdh ffs slap yourself real hard then try posting again
October 7th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
im a big em fan i dont like no jay z song not sayin he wack or w.e but i dont like his music his sh1t doesnt catch my ear. Em yea he hasnt dropped an album in 4 years but so wat that has nothing to do wit his skills his lyrics are crazy and cant be touched. For a comment i read earlier yea he hasnt made a song wit a popsinger but that got nothin to do wit skills that dont matter and for a hot club joint its cause he hasnt made a dance lol or he doesnt repeat his shit
and no im not white and i like em im pr and bunch of my black and spanish friends like em over jay so its not cause he white got nothin to do wit it and if ya dont like the decision ya shouldve voted ya selves
October 7th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Eminem never ended careers, little white boys and girls who buy the music ended careers. If a rapper has a beef with eminem then those white kids stop buying their music. That’s why nobody battles him. Rappers are not scared of him but they are scared of little white kids.
Eminim is a good rapper but he cant fuck with canibus,beanie sigel,jadakiss,hova,nas,andre 3000,ghostface,reakwon..
This is an insult to Hiphop!
October 7th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
and for #161 lmfao are you kiddin me canibus he smashed him that nigga wasnt going nowhere
October 7th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Em got skillz ! Eminem got all the awards and trophies and albums sell. He STILL the MOST SLEPT ON ARTIST lol. I wasnt even a EM fan when he first came out it was around EMINEM SHOW & ENCORE i started bumpin his music. Sorry Jay i gotta go with marshall.
October 7th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
HOW YALL GONNA DISS JAY-Z LIKE THAT
AINT NOBODY TALKING ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP I COULDN’T GIVE A FUCK WHO JAY-Z IS WITH I DON’T CARE ABOUT HIS MONEY OR HOW MANY ALBUMS HE SALES HE CAN GO DOUBLE WOOD WHEN BLUEPRINT 3 COMES OUT WHAT EVER I SAY IS STRICKLY ABOUT MUSIC
JAY IS WAY MORE versatile HE CAN RHYME ABOUT ANYTHING
EM IS ONE OF THE BEST LYRICIST EVER BUT HE WASTE HIS LYRICS MAKING DUMB ASS SONGS HALF HIS SINGLES AND SONGS ARE KIDDIE AS HELL I LOVE HIM FOR IT ,IT’S COOL AND ALL BUT THAT SHIT IS WHAT HURTS HIM WHEN COMPARING HIM TO OTHER RAPPERS JAY DON’T HAVE STRAIGHT UP DUMB ASS SONG IN HIS CATALOG
YEA EM IS A GREAT RAPPER BUT AGAIN HE WASTE HIS SKILLS MAKING DUMB ASS SONGS YOU CAN’T GO ALBUM FOR ALBUM SONG FOR SONG WITH EM AND JAY BECAUSE AGAIN HALF OF EMS SONGS ARE SOME THE STUPIDEST SHIT YOU’LL EVER EVER HEAR! ..YOU SAYING THAT JAY FELL OFF SINCE THE BLACK ALBUM OK.COOL BUT NIETHER OF THOSE ALBUMS HAD NO DUMB ASS SONGS ON THERE IT DIDN’T SOUND LIKE HE JUST RECORDED ANYTHING JAY WAS TALKING SOME REAL SHIT ON THERE EM LAST TWO ALBUMS AGAINST JAYS ALBUM JA HAD LOST ONES ,MINORITY REPORT,BEACH CHAIR,THE PRELUDE,FALLEN,AMERICAN DREAMING,NO HOOK THAT’S NOT FAIR TO AUTOMATICALLY EXCUSE JAY LIKE HE’S SOME GARBAGE RAPPER YALL DON’T SHOW NO RESPECT FOR JAY-Z YALL GONE SEE WHEN THE NIGGA IS DEAD AND GONE YALL GONE FIND OUT THE MOTHER FUCKING HARD WAY ….
October 7th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
HOW YALL GONNA DISS JAY-Z LIKE THAT
AINT NOBODY TALKING ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP I COULDN’T GIVE A FUCK WHO JAY-Z IS WITH I DON’T CARE ABOUT HIS MONEY OR HOW MANY ALBUMS HE SALES HE CAN GO DOUBLE WOOD WHEN BLUEPRINT 3 COMES OUT WHAT EVER I SAY IS STRICKLY ABOUT MUSIC
JAY IS WAY MORE versatile HE CAN RHYME ABOUT ANYTHING
EM IS ONE OF THE BEST LYRICIST EVER BUT HE WASTE HIS LYRICS MAKING DUMB ASS SONGS HALF HIS SINGLES AND SONGS ARE KIDDIE AS HELL I LOVE HIM FOR IT ,IT’S COOL AND ALL BUT THAT SHIT IS WHAT HURTS HIM WHEN COMPARING HIM TO OTHER RAPPERS JAY DON’T HAVE STRAIGHT UP DUMB ASS SONG IN HIS CATALOG
YEA EM IS A GREAT RAPPER BUT AGAIN HE WASTE HIS SKILLS MAKING DUMB ASS SONGS YOU CAN’T GO ALBUM FO