Comments on: Skillz Speaking on Changing of the Guard in Hip Hop(Diddy) http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/ Latest Music Videos from Rap & R&B, Along with latest Clothes, Sneakers, Movies etc. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:32:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/ hourly 1 By: Corey http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373369 Corey Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:21:36 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373369 Interesting convo, but I disagree with Skillz. First of all you comparing Puff, Jay, and JD with Russ, Lyor and Kevin Lyles which is not fair. Those guys are artists or producers FIRST, execs second. Russ aint never tried to make a record. Second, to say Puff wouldn't give BIG a shot today doesn't make a lot of sense. Puff's goal is to MAKE MONEY. He made a bunch of money off of BIG. He would probably make a lot more today. #7 said Bleek should be bigger than what he is. R U SERIOUS?!?!? Bleek is only as big as he is because of his association with Jay. Bleek is a slightly better than average MC. I don't know what about him makes you think he should be better. He's lucky to go gold everytime like he does. Now with a Jay-Z, of course his first priority is putting himself out there. But don't you think if an artist came across his desk that had the ACTUAL POTENTIAL to be huge he would jump on it? I question the unsigned talent level thats out there...too many dudes rappin the same shit. Money, cars sellin drugs, blah, blah, blah. The game is in a rut from the bottom to the top. Interesting convo, but I disagree with Skillz. First of all you comparing Puff, Jay, and JD with Russ, Lyor and Kevin Lyles which is not fair. Those guys are artists or producers FIRST, execs second. Russ aint never tried to make a record. Second, to say Puff wouldn’t give BIG a shot today doesn’t make a lot of sense. Puff’s goal is to MAKE MONEY. He made a bunch of money off of BIG. He would probably make a lot more today.

#7 said Bleek should be bigger than what he is. R U SERIOUS?!?!? Bleek is only as big as he is because of his association with Jay. Bleek is a slightly better than average MC. I don’t know what about him makes you think he should be better. He’s lucky to go gold everytime like he does.

Now with a Jay-Z, of course his first priority is putting himself out there. But don’t you think if an artist came across his desk that had the ACTUAL POTENTIAL to be huge he would jump on it? I question the unsigned talent level thats out there…too many dudes rappin the same shit. Money, cars sellin drugs, blah, blah, blah. The game is in a rut from the bottom to the top.

]]> By: County Of Kings http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373346 County Of Kings Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:33:21 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373346 #14 u talkin bout puff not wanting joc to be hiphops first billionaire then why did diddy put him on in the first place. i dont understand your logic, he gave joc a chance, he gave jody breeze, gorilla zoe, young jeezy, all them niggas came out on badboy first. and if anybody under him gets close to making a billion, he gets half or more due to his shady contracts, so tell me again why puff is stop niggas from gettin on. puff is an executive who's focused on makin money off new acts. jayz is an artist whos more in tuned with the rapper side of things and not really an executive at heart. puff puts niggas on all day, they get hot singles, then fizzle out, and he moves on to the next one #14 u talkin bout puff not wanting joc to be hiphops first billionaire
then why did diddy put him on in the first place. i dont understand your logic, he gave joc a chance, he gave jody breeze, gorilla zoe, young jeezy, all them niggas came out on badboy first.
and if anybody under him gets close to making a billion, he gets half or more due to his shady contracts, so tell me again why puff is stop niggas from gettin on. puff is an executive who’s focused on makin money off new acts. jayz is an artist whos more in tuned with the rapper side of things and not really an executive at heart. puff puts niggas on all day, they get hot singles, then fizzle out, and he moves on to the next one

]]> By: Bluecreme http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373339 Bluecreme Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:54:34 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373339 Three niggaz, sitting around whining, instead of getting there grind on. If you want to be like diddy and jay, go fuck the right multimillionaire. I know its sounds messed up, but yaw know these niggaz sleeping thier way to the top, with old rich ass white men. Skillz, go find out who you got fuck, get yours. Three niggaz, sitting around whining, instead of getting there grind on. If you want to be like diddy and jay, go fuck the right multimillionaire. I know its sounds messed up, but yaw know these niggaz sleeping thier way to the top, with old rich ass white men. Skillz, go find out who you got fuck, get yours.

]]> By: BK BRAWLER http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373287 BK BRAWLER Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:20:45 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373287 I don't know what some of yall talkin about... This nigga Skills just dropped the realist shit that ever been on this site period! Im from ny and I been sayin this same shit for years! He could hav also talked about the radio stations and the same tired dj's playin the same people over and over that most of them came up with... They all in this shit together gettin paid fuckin us over. Don't get me wrong I'm a hustler's hustler... So ain't knockin them but as a fan of hip-hop and a huster I think DMX said it best STOP BEING GREEDY LET'S KEEP IT REAL PARTNER GIVE TO THE NEEDY! You can forget about Jay helpin anyone. He's a artist/hustler first and he's not gonna create comp for himself... plus he's a selfish dude and he still has a chip from him not gettin a record deal from a major label when he was tryin to get on! I don’t know what some of yall talkin about… This nigga Skills just dropped the realist shit that ever been on this site period! Im from ny and I been sayin this same shit for years! He could hav also talked about the radio stations and the same tired dj’s playin the same people over and over that most of them came up with… They all in this shit together gettin paid fuckin us over. Don’t get me wrong I’m a hustler’s hustler… So ain’t knockin them but as a fan of hip-hop and a huster I think DMX said it best STOP BEING GREEDY LET’S KEEP IT REAL PARTNER GIVE TO THE NEEDY! You can forget about Jay helpin anyone. He’s a artist/hustler first and he’s not gonna create comp for himself… plus he’s a selfish dude and he still has a chip from him not gettin a record deal from a major label when he was tryin to get on!

]]> By: Brooklyn stand up http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373279 Brooklyn stand up Tue, 19 Aug 2008 22:04:25 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373279 Co-Sign 4 skillz realest talk i've heard all year. Skillz can't put no one on cause he is not an executive. Well all he can do is hand a couple of demos around, but the real reason a rapper/exect. wont put no one on is because of the possible chance that the new nigga could do better, its sad but u can't blame em. its not even really their responsibly if thats the case unless they just focus on being executives. I'm sure puff would hate it if yung joc became the first rap billionaire and puff is still at a half billie, then puff won't have that fire, or it won't be as hot Co-Sign 4
skillz realest talk i’ve heard all year. Skillz can’t put no one on cause he is not an executive. Well all he can do is hand a couple of demos around, but the real reason a rapper/exect. wont put no one on is because of the possible chance that the new nigga could do better, its sad but u can’t blame em. its not even really their responsibly if thats the case unless they just focus on being executives. I’m sure puff would hate it if yung joc became the first rap billionaire and puff is still at a half billie, then puff won’t have that fire, or it won’t be as hot

]]> By: County Of Kings http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373273 County Of Kings Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:51:43 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373273 get the fuck outta here, so what is he sayin that the new nice niggas are being blackballed by niggas like jay and puff he sound stupid, i got respect for him but i wish i was there to join that discussion. if puff seen big today, he would sign him again, puff can make a dollar out of 15cents. why would he pass on big today makes no sense. jayz and puff try to put out new artist, especially puff and they either pop or flop what else do u want him to do when jay and puff came out, old heads were still making music every other month, jay and puff went harder and THEY FANS SUPPORTED THEM. niggas suppose to retire so we can be forced to listen to sum new niggas. and puff dont even make music like that so who is he stoppin from being famous??? " so i stretched the game out, x'ed your name out, put jigga on top, and drop albums non-stop for ya" being mad at jay, puff, j.dupri, only a few are supposed to last 4ever, everyone else gets a few years and ya done get the fuck outta here, so what is he sayin that the new nice niggas are being blackballed by niggas like jay and puff
he sound stupid, i got respect for him but i wish i was there to join that discussion. if puff seen big today, he would sign him again, puff can make a dollar out of 15cents. why would he pass on big today makes no sense. jayz and puff try to put out new artist, especially puff and they either pop or flop what else do u want him to do
when jay and puff came out, old heads were still making music every other month, jay and puff went harder and THEY FANS SUPPORTED THEM. niggas suppose to retire so we can be forced to listen to sum new niggas. and puff dont even make music like that so who is he stoppin from being famous???

” so i stretched the game out, x’ed your name out, put jigga on top, and drop albums non-stop for ya”

being mad at jay, puff, j.dupri, only a few are supposed to last 4ever, everyone else gets a few years and ya done

]]> By: Smoke sum'n Bitch!!! http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373260 Smoke sum'n Bitch!!! Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:32:24 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373260 Beans Coulda Held the Roc But He Killed Himself Shyne Coulda Held Bad Boi But He Killed Himself Jah Coulda Balanced his carrerr by releasing some street stuff but 50 Killed Him as he was killing Himself Read the 48 laws if Power Young rappers!!! Power is taken NOT given. Beans Coulda Held the Roc But He Killed Himself

Shyne Coulda Held Bad Boi But He Killed Himself

Jah Coulda Balanced his carrerr by releasing some street stuff but 50 Killed Him as he was killing Himself

Read the 48 laws if Power Young rappers!!! Power is taken NOT given.

]]> By: Chiz the Great http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373248 Chiz the Great Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:19:49 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373248 Put yourself on!!! Jay made his own name. Andre Harrell FIRED Puff when the nigga was an A&R...he started from the ground up! Irv WAS a DJ...he put his self on!!! Everybody wants a shot...when u get it, make the most of it because that mite be the only one u get!!! Put yourself on!!! Jay made his own name. Andre Harrell FIRED Puff when the nigga was an A&R…he started from the ground up! Irv WAS a DJ…he put his self on!!! Everybody wants a shot…when u get it, make the most of it because that mite be the only one u get!!!

]]> By: crooklands finest http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373211 crooklands finest Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:39:17 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373211 he sound bitter all the what ifs bullshit..jayz an diddy put theyselves on..noone stepped aside an was like its your go everyone is grown and their fate is they own business all this gossiping like women..no wonder no new rappers coming out they waiting for handouts he sound bitter

all the what ifs bullshit..jayz an diddy put theyselves on..noone stepped aside an was like its your go

everyone is grown and their fate is they own business

all this gossiping like women..no wonder no new rappers coming out they waiting for handouts

]]> By: Ed http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/08/topic/topic/videos/skillz-speaking-on-changing-of-the-guard-in-hip-hop/comment-page-1/#comment-373209 Ed Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:38:54 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/?p=7528#comment-373209 Listen, Diddy and Jay are part of the system now (the matrix)they are settled. They can taste and eat the steak even though it is not real anymore. They aint hungry anymore, they got millions and millions of $, so much that it even has becomed a joke now and so far removed from what Hip Hop was to begin with. I used to respect Puff Daddy, but I lost it to P Diddy and I dont even know who Diddy is. It is not up to them to break new artist, its up to us. Thats is why I for instance like them new cats "The Cool Kids". and "The Knux" etc. Just my humble opinion. Peace. Listen, Diddy and Jay are part of the system now (the matrix)they are settled. They can taste and eat the steak even though it is not real anymore. They aint hungry anymore, they got millions and millions of $, so much that it even has becomed a joke now and so far removed from what Hip Hop was to begin with.

I used to respect Puff Daddy, but I lost it to P Diddy and I dont even know who Diddy is.
It is not up to them to break new artist, its up to us.
Thats is why I for instance like them new cats “The Cool Kids”. and “The Knux” etc.

Just my humble opinion.

Peace.

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