smhhh ..dumass rappers don’t know how to defend hiphop wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horror movies….porn..theres more white porn stars than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snapping can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fuckin every day on tv..every movie has a fully naked white womean…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
rappers don know how to defend hiphop wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horro movies….porn..theres more white porn statrs than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snapping can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fuckin every day on tv..every movie has a fully naked white woman…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
jl shut the fuck up u stupid bitch. this is actually one of the few responsible niggas in rap. i hate rap bunch coon ass niggas. our culture is fucked up. someody gotta say something. if one ignorant little nigga can get somethin out of wat dude is sayin, so be it. god dammit man !!!!!!!!
whoever just backed David Banner based on that clip must be retarded because the problem here clearly is that David Banner is on so low of an intellectual level that he does not even understand what it is that these people are saying which is why when he goes before Congress he really just makes a fool out of himself and every other rap artist-if u are uneducated and lack eloquence you have no place in speaking on intellectual issues or representing anybody-the last person I would want representing me is David Banner He sounds like a fuckin idiot and gets 0 respect
rappers dont know how to defend hiphop i wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horror movies….porn..theres more white porn statrs than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is it the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snappiung can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fucking every day on tv..every movie has a naked white women…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
itallion stallion u a bitch too. at least he trying god dammit. what jordan doing?? what tiger doin?? he usin his exposure, or presence to try to get something across. he wanna help?? who cares if he cant speak “intellectually” like u want u bitch ass . a lotta people that have problems cant speak like u, cant talk like u, cant understand u, cant have shit like u. sorry the hood aint perfect motha fucka. low intellectual level??? who da fuck are u?? black people are killing each otha. kids relate to rappers, ball playas. not stuffy booshi ass big word motha fuckas like in that clip. was this response to stupid for you??? i know its not in the best format!!! sorry…..
DB took a L but he is not stupid. He just didnt get a chance to elaborate on his point or formulate a rebuttal for the rude bitch who just talked over him and the host. And hes far from stupid. Hes actually one of the few rappers who completed college and was also president of his class I heard. Google him before you hate. All in all he was wrong in regards to the bigger picture so you all are right on that.
He should have pointed out how rappers are doing the same thing BET does in regards to putting out music with the words bitches and hoes in it just like BET puts on Rap City, 106 and only plays the songs that has the same fuckin verbiage they have the nerve to ridicule. Now shows like the Boot which has a somewhat comedic approach but still depicts black men and women in a negative light are headlined on the same network. Or he could have pointed out how BET is running this special and making examples out of I love NY and Flavor of Love but their parent company Viacom owns MTV and VH1 which show those very shows. Shout out to DB, i would like to see the entire show but from what I saw he took a L.
rappes dont know how to defend hiphop i wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horror movies….porn..theres more white porn statrs than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is it the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snappiung can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fucking every day on tv..every movie has a naked white women…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
Pointing out that I love NY and Flavor of Love would have actually been the perfect example to highlight his theory on black people hate on each other first. BET has the nerve to put this special on but what have they done in regards to talking about these issues to their parent company (viacom) Im willing to bet whatever that they did nothing. They rather point at actual artist in hip hop and individual projects instead of pointing in a mirror or other major networks, and record labels.
Its like trying to fight the little nigga in the gang of cats that are trying to jump you or rob you instead of the biggest dude. Well where I grew up we are taught to knock the biggest nigga out first and the little niggas know they gonna catch a L or they might just bounce. So until BET shows me some results instead of this same lame game then fuck em.
And I respect #6 comment. Cant co-sign it all my dude but I feel you. Everyone aint articulate in the hood but the ones that are need to translate the msg that we all know and put in terms that people like #5 can understand.
I dont mind the things that david banner is saying because he’s speaking for the society of today without the use of a large vocabulary. The people who were basically saying he’s wrong are more or less people who listen to radio hip-hop or no hip-hop at all in order to come to the conclusion of him not knowing what he’s talking about.
I believe nowadays rappers have more control over children, the media, and society as a whole but refuse to lose money over the ideas of being positive. I dont think David Banner alone was the best choice seeing he has no one else to really communicate with. Adding another music artist more or less r&b would or could even things out seeing that these are dominant black genres of music. With these stereotypes and images, people are failing to realize that channels like BET are white owned but ran by a sprinkle of black people. They do not have complete control of what’s being played and only after Bob Johnson stepped down has it changed it whole image. Why is it that the show is called “Hip-Hop VS. America” still? Why is that BET has watered-down ideas from MTV for shows just now with an all black cast? Why is it that we as Black are quick to judge one another when we have a higher education and not doing anything else about it? Words can make a change but if you are only out to save yourself and not help others the way other races do, then you are only adding to the problem that you complain about.
Overall i think the show is a waste of money because all of those people speaking are important in their own field and may serve a purpose, but their only emphasizing the stereotypes they are trying to abolish really. David Banner seems to be the pawn their using only to grab a the attention of a younger audience because to them his opinion hardly matters.
i dont think david banner is on a low intellectual level
he had a whole nother agenda here, he has an ax to grind and a chip on his shoulder being a rapper. i hate that the rapper gotta be the angry black loud talking nigga.
if u had it on mute he looks like the uneducated one, and also the guilty one.
david banner doesnt speak for me, these niggas have a choice what they wanna put in they music, just like the bitches have a choice to shake they ass. those are the people who are responsible for the love loss
hiphop is the most influential music in the world, and kids are so impressionable. i would love to see all kinds of women all the time, dark, light, good girls, hoes, slim, thick, short, tall.
but instead niggas lack creativity
if ya videos and music mirror your life, then all those women should be in them. fake rappers
the number one media purveyor of black stereotypes and the dumbing down of black youth is giving us a history lesson on where all the bullshit came from and excuses as to why we’re still worshiping it. Excuse me if I don’t turn to BET for credible black history.
Props to them for giving these intelligent brothas and sistahs a platform…but what we really need to talk about is WHY IS IT THAT HIP HOP HAS COME TO REPRESENT THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN MAINSTREAM AMERICA? We have somehow managed to put our underbelly in the spotlight and this program is more of the same
I havent seen so many niggas with sense and perspective post on this site in a minute lol. BET need to get some of us on a show like that. Pull some strings RTNY
I think people are looking to blame hip hop for all or most of African Americans problems in society. If you really look at hip hop as a true art form it is beautiful. You can’t tell a painter to not use a certain color or a piano player to not use a certain key. I fell like you differently can’t tell a hip hop artist to censor everything they say. The art of hip hop wouldn’t exist if that was to happen. The media just need to balance what they perceive is bad hip hop and with good hip hop. A lot of these rapper really be saying some stuff that be mind blowing if you really catch what they sayin like Lupe, Bun B, killer mike, ice cube, nas, kanye, scarface, outkast, x-clan, dead prez, style p. The point im trying to make for you slow motherfuckers is that hiphop is still a fairly new aspect of music and already is the most listen to genre of music all over the world. Think about how powerful that for one sec. To censor rapper will take away they power to express what really going on in the world. Everything aint black and white people 4 real add some color to the issue ya dig
honestly u can talk all u want but at the end of the day do u like hip hop or u don’t nobody is forcing u 2 make that choice …
and if u don’t like hip hop don’t listen 2 it and if your somebody who likes hip hop but has problem with the lyrics about violence , women , sex , pimping , drug dealing , cars , money , jewellery , and etc. listen artist like common , mos def , Talib Kweli
people like al sharpton just wanna control people they wanna tell u what u should like or u shouldn’t … fyi we have freedom speech in this country so whats the point of censoring hip hop …
honestly there worser issues than rap music
i think this al sharpton guy does anything 2 give himself attention …
80% of Black people are so stupid. David banner was right about 1 thing. Black people jus hate themselves. Jus like we sold our people into slavery for prorfit, we continue to sell ourselves out. N*ggas knw exactly wat they do when they only rap about negativity,truth is nobody cares cus its all about the $$$. Black people need to be more responsible an stop putting the blame on everybody else.
* now lets see wat show gets more re-run spins on bet?? 100% sure this show will play about 2 this week vs.a dumb video wit the same sterotypical sh*t, will play about 7 times a day this week. Thanks Bob Johnson ex:(f*ck’n sellouts)
Individuals Do make a decision about what they do. They are responsible their actions. The Bible speaks about this, when we are judged by Him, we aren’t going to stand with our brother, sister, boss, coworks, relatives, teachers, grandmother/father, friends, mother/father, politicians, artist who influenced you, black people, white people, etc. We all have a conscience: we know right from wrong! You don’t have to teach a child to be selfish or lie, steal, lust, etc.
Yes there are things out there to tempt us to curse, degrade, fight, lie, steal, cheat, lust, etc, but we make the ultimate decision.
@ Recognize a Playa, truth, Pounce, TRONE, JCharades
I think David Banner is faaaar from ignorant and what he is saying has validity in the world around us.
But what I don’t agree with him doing like the many people on this board are doing is ‘pointing’ out this and ‘pointing’ out that….
when what people(including David Banner) need to do is keep is honest and admit to themselves/others and say yes there is negativity perpetuated about Black women and Black women and I am apart of it because it sells or because it is a ‘cool’ thing to do.
I mean look at the people on this board and how they respond to each other and women. The only time a woman seems to get any ‘positive’ response (I put positive in quotes b/c it’s usually responses filled with bitch and derogatory sexual advances) is when she is half-naked or naked. Then she is ‘wifey’ material.
In any other instance woman deemed useless and people are more interested in arguing about G-Unit and Lil Wayne. Admit it you do it and many of you are starting to believe the hype. And you do it because it is acceptable….whether it is right or wrong
We don’t own record companies to say what’s put on the radio or what America likes, but our greed and our lust for money, and power pushes us do things that are degrading and keep us in this downward spiral.
We are not pimps, ho, gangstas, drug dealers, and criminals.
We are black men and woment with extraordinary abiliites to so great things like be CEO, Doctors, lawyers, etc… but we as a people must stop taking the easy way out like glorifying the negativity in the “hood”
2 words Killer Mike…….THAT NIGGA WOULDA KILLED THAT PANEL. Check out his interview on mass appeal. Google “that’s Life” By Killer Mike!!!!! Cube…Mike and Dead Prez r the only spokes people Hip Hop Needs.
P.S. why Banner always Start with that coonery smile a
then go all Holy’er than Thou with Black Man Anger Tell that Country Negro to Chill!!! We Dont Believe U…..u need more people.
yea i dont like david banner acting like tha typical angry black man. and then he gonna blame bet for making him look foolish. na homie u did that yourself. instead of goin off on your own agenda why dont u debate the issue at hand and stop yelling like a child.
hiphop is always being looked down upon by those who dont understand it, becuz all they see is a big black man stomping and yelling and acting like he either needs a bottle or some handcuffs
niggas wanna ball till they fall, so if i can ball out by selling out my young women, not the video hoes, but the young girls who think thats all they have in this world to offer then so be it
This issue of hip hop’s violence, misogyny, & stereotypical & distorted portrayals just seems so redundant to me. I feel like yea BET can hold a panel & discuss the issue but will anything change?
With the freedom to entertain & freedom of expression comes responsibility. & these entertainers(rappers, singers, actors, models) need to at least be conscious & self-aware of how they’re advertising themselves & portraying themselves through their art. When you are in the public eye like that, you have an insurmountable amount of power to influence & convince the masses…
Kids learn by observation; they are like sponges & they absorb everything around them & their environment, that’s how they learn. It’s up to the parents to really inform their kids & teach their kids what is ‘just for entertainment’ & what’s not; what’s real & what’s not.
At the end of the day everyone is accountable for his or her own actions. & in life each & everyone of us are faced with choices & personal decisions; We can’t keep scape goating & can’t keep putting the blame on hip hop & the media for the problems going on within the Black community at large, as influential as the media may be. Not saying there aren’t some things that need to change as far as media is concerned because it is responsible for some of the negative steretypes & one-sided portrayals of African Americans. But, you have to make a personal choice & say I’m not gonna fulfill that stereotype…
Pounce is a very itelligent individual with a lot of perspective. This is refreshing, because what i’m used to seeing on this site are some of the most ignoran brainwashed coon bandits of our century trying to make valid points about bullshit. They defend the game in his niggery, 50 in his niggery one against the other neither with any richous cause. DB is an intelligent individual and hes educated unlike 50 or game. and he is stepping up because you know what ignorance is bliss. DB knows better and he feels guilty for the bullshit that he has out out in his time. He needs to rehearse like the great debaters and go hard next time he is invited to a panel. Due to his archetype he wasn’t getting the respect that he wanted on that panel. The “Professinal” black folks weren’t giving him a chance.
@ nik
when what people(including David Banner) need to do is keep is honest and admit to themselves/others and say yes there is negativity perpetuated about Black women and Black women and I am apart of it because it sells or because it is a ‘cool’ thing to do.
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i bet u if david banner admitted to such things he would be criticized by those other panels saying you should stop makin that type of music. i bet u those panels wouldn’t wanna hear anything that came out this guy mouth. they would only stress the fact that banner and other rappers should stop doing that.
i wasn’t making excuses but what i saying is that if you don’t like music that got bitches and hoes said in it don’t listen 2 it nobody is being force 2 listen to it.
so what if u think that hip hop make women look bad there is playboy, movies , and etc. that make women look worser, those women in those videos chose to do that and those women aren’t degrading black women they are degrading themsleves.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:08 am
Get’em Banner!!!
June 26th, 2008 at 12:12 am
that’s serious real talk right there by Banner
June 26th, 2008 at 12:20 am
smhhh ..dumass rappers don’t know how to defend hiphop wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horror movies….porn..theres more white porn stars than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snapping can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fuckin every day on tv..every movie has a fully naked white womean…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
June 26th, 2008 at 12:24 am
rappers don know how to defend hiphop wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horro movies….porn..theres more white porn statrs than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snapping can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fuckin every day on tv..every movie has a fully naked white woman…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
June 26th, 2008 at 12:25 am
Banner made a complete ass out of himself.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:29 am
jl shut the fuck up u stupid bitch. this is actually one of the few responsible niggas in rap. i hate rap bunch coon ass niggas. our culture is fucked up. someody gotta say something. if one ignorant little nigga can get somethin out of wat dude is sayin, so be it. god dammit man !!!!!!!!
June 26th, 2008 at 12:38 am
whoever just backed David Banner based on that clip must be retarded because the problem here clearly is that David Banner is on so low of an intellectual level that he does not even understand what it is that these people are saying which is why when he goes before Congress he really just makes a fool out of himself and every other rap artist-if u are uneducated and lack eloquence you have no place in speaking on intellectual issues or representing anybody-the last person I would want representing me is David Banner He sounds like a fuckin idiot and gets 0 respect
June 26th, 2008 at 12:42 am
rappers dont know how to defend hiphop i wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horror movies….porn..theres more white porn statrs than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is it the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snappiung can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fucking every day on tv..every movie has a naked white women…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
June 26th, 2008 at 12:48 am
itallion stallion u a bitch too. at least he trying god dammit. what jordan doing?? what tiger doin?? he usin his exposure, or presence to try to get something across. he wanna help?? who cares if he cant speak “intellectually” like u want u bitch ass . a lotta people that have problems cant speak like u, cant talk like u, cant understand u, cant have shit like u. sorry the hood aint perfect motha fucka. low intellectual level??? who da fuck are u?? black people are killing each otha. kids relate to rappers, ball playas. not stuffy booshi ass big word motha fuckas like in that clip. was this response to stupid for you??? i know its not in the best format!!! sorry…..
June 26th, 2008 at 12:59 am
DB took a L but he is not stupid. He just didnt get a chance to elaborate on his point or formulate a rebuttal for the rude bitch who just talked over him and the host. And hes far from stupid. Hes actually one of the few rappers who completed college and was also president of his class I heard. Google him before you hate. All in all he was wrong in regards to the bigger picture so you all are right on that.
He should have pointed out how rappers are doing the same thing BET does in regards to putting out music with the words bitches and hoes in it just like BET puts on Rap City, 106 and only plays the songs that has the same fuckin verbiage they have the nerve to ridicule. Now shows like the Boot which has a somewhat comedic approach but still depicts black men and women in a negative light are headlined on the same network. Or he could have pointed out how BET is running this special and making examples out of I love NY and Flavor of Love but their parent company Viacom owns MTV and VH1 which show those very shows. Shout out to DB, i would like to see the entire show but from what I saw he took a L.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:03 am
rappes dont know how to defend hiphop i wish pac was still alive to school these niggers..
ppl have said this before ..theres so much worse than hiphop…eg rock and roll, horror movies….porn..theres more white porn statrs than theres rappers,
ppl always say hiphops bad but dnt quiet point out what wrong..whats the matter..is it the lirics? ..cuz theres no curse words allowed on tv..so whats wrong..is it the dancing.?.i dont c how harmful snappiung can be..is it the half naked women?.,…i c fully naked white women fucking every day on tv..every movie has a naked white women…hip hop only has half naked black women…so whats the fuckin problem.. leave hip hop alone its just music
June 26th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Pointing out that I love NY and Flavor of Love would have actually been the perfect example to highlight his theory on black people hate on each other first. BET has the nerve to put this special on but what have they done in regards to talking about these issues to their parent company (viacom) Im willing to bet whatever that they did nothing. They rather point at actual artist in hip hop and individual projects instead of pointing in a mirror or other major networks, and record labels.
Its like trying to fight the little nigga in the gang of cats that are trying to jump you or rob you instead of the biggest dude. Well where I grew up we are taught to knock the biggest nigga out first and the little niggas know they gonna catch a L or they might just bounce. So until BET shows me some results instead of this same lame game then fuck em.
And I respect #6 comment. Cant co-sign it all my dude but I feel you. Everyone aint articulate in the hood but the ones that are need to translate the msg that we all know and put in terms that people like #5 can understand.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:18 am
My bad meant to say translate so people like #7 can understand not 5 but shit 5 need an interpreter to lol
June 26th, 2008 at 1:28 am
I dont mind the things that david banner is saying because he’s speaking for the society of today without the use of a large vocabulary. The people who were basically saying he’s wrong are more or less people who listen to radio hip-hop or no hip-hop at all in order to come to the conclusion of him not knowing what he’s talking about.
I believe nowadays rappers have more control over children, the media, and society as a whole but refuse to lose money over the ideas of being positive. I dont think David Banner alone was the best choice seeing he has no one else to really communicate with. Adding another music artist more or less r&b would or could even things out seeing that these are dominant black genres of music. With these stereotypes and images, people are failing to realize that channels like BET are white owned but ran by a sprinkle of black people. They do not have complete control of what’s being played and only after Bob Johnson stepped down has it changed it whole image. Why is it that the show is called “Hip-Hop VS. America” still? Why is that BET has watered-down ideas from MTV for shows just now with an all black cast? Why is it that we as Black are quick to judge one another when we have a higher education and not doing anything else about it? Words can make a change but if you are only out to save yourself and not help others the way other races do, then you are only adding to the problem that you complain about.
Overall i think the show is a waste of money because all of those people speaking are important in their own field and may serve a purpose, but their only emphasizing the stereotypes they are trying to abolish really. David Banner seems to be the pawn their using only to grab a the attention of a younger audience because to them his opinion hardly matters.
June 26th, 2008 at 1:33 am
i dont think david banner is on a low intellectual level
he had a whole nother agenda here, he has an ax to grind and a chip on his shoulder being a rapper. i hate that the rapper gotta be the angry black loud talking nigga.
if u had it on mute he looks like the uneducated one, and also the guilty one.
david banner doesnt speak for me, these niggas have a choice what they wanna put in they music, just like the bitches have a choice to shake they ass. those are the people who are responsible for the love loss
hiphop is the most influential music in the world, and kids are so impressionable. i would love to see all kinds of women all the time, dark, light, good girls, hoes, slim, thick, short, tall.
but instead niggas lack creativity
if ya videos and music mirror your life, then all those women should be in them. fake rappers
June 26th, 2008 at 2:15 am
HEY EVERYONE, LOOK!
the number one media purveyor of black stereotypes and the dumbing down of black youth is giving us a history lesson on where all the bullshit came from and excuses as to why we’re still worshiping it. Excuse me if I don’t turn to BET for credible black history.
Props to them for giving these intelligent brothas and sistahs a platform…but what we really need to talk about is WHY IS IT THAT HIP HOP HAS COME TO REPRESENT THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN MAINSTREAM AMERICA? We have somehow managed to put our underbelly in the spotlight and this program is more of the same
June 26th, 2008 at 2:40 am
I havent seen so many niggas with sense and perspective post on this site in a minute lol. BET need to get some of us on a show like that. Pull some strings RTNY
June 26th, 2008 at 3:15 am
I think people are looking to blame hip hop for all or most of African Americans problems in society. If you really look at hip hop as a true art form it is beautiful. You can’t tell a painter to not use a certain color or a piano player to not use a certain key. I fell like you differently can’t tell a hip hop artist to censor everything they say. The art of hip hop wouldn’t exist if that was to happen. The media just need to balance what they perceive is bad hip hop and with good hip hop. A lot of these rapper really be saying some stuff that be mind blowing if you really catch what they sayin like Lupe, Bun B, killer mike, ice cube, nas, kanye, scarface, outkast, x-clan, dead prez, style p. The point im trying to make for you slow motherfuckers is that hiphop is still a fairly new aspect of music and already is the most listen to genre of music all over the world. Think about how powerful that for one sec. To censor rapper will take away they power to express what really going on in the world. Everything aint black and white people 4 real add some color to the issue ya dig
June 26th, 2008 at 7:12 am
honestly u can talk all u want but at the end of the day do u like hip hop or u don’t nobody is forcing u 2 make that choice …
and if u don’t like hip hop don’t listen 2 it and if your somebody who likes hip hop but has problem with the lyrics about violence , women , sex , pimping , drug dealing , cars , money , jewellery , and etc. listen artist like common , mos def , Talib Kweli
people like al sharpton just wanna control people they wanna tell u what u should like or u shouldn’t … fyi we have freedom speech in this country so whats the point of censoring hip hop …
honestly there worser issues than rap music
i think this al sharpton guy does anything 2 give himself attention …
al sharpton is wanna be martin luther king
June 26th, 2008 at 7:21 am
80% of Black people are so stupid. David banner was right about 1 thing. Black people jus hate themselves. Jus like we sold our people into slavery for prorfit, we continue to sell ourselves out. N*ggas knw exactly wat they do when they only rap about negativity,truth is nobody cares cus its all about the $$$. Black people need to be more responsible an stop putting the blame on everybody else.
* now lets see wat show gets more re-run spins on bet?? 100% sure this show will play about 2 this week vs.a dumb video wit the same sterotypical sh*t, will play about 7 times a day this week. Thanks Bob Johnson ex:(f*ck’n sellouts)
June 26th, 2008 at 7:41 am
Individuals Do make a decision about what they do. They are responsible their actions. The Bible speaks about this, when we are judged by Him, we aren’t going to stand with our brother, sister, boss, coworks, relatives, teachers, grandmother/father, friends, mother/father, politicians, artist who influenced you, black people, white people, etc. We all have a conscience: we know right from wrong! You don’t have to teach a child to be selfish or lie, steal, lust, etc.
Yes there are things out there to tempt us to curse, degrade, fight, lie, steal, cheat, lust, etc, but we make the ultimate decision.
June 26th, 2008 at 9:00 am
@ Recognize a Playa, truth, Pounce, TRONE, JCharades
I think David Banner is faaaar from ignorant and what he is saying has validity in the world around us.
But what I don’t agree with him doing like the many people on this board are doing is ‘pointing’ out this and ‘pointing’ out that….
when what people(including David Banner) need to do is keep is honest and admit to themselves/others and say yes there is negativity perpetuated about Black women and Black women and I am apart of it because it sells or because it is a ‘cool’ thing to do.
I mean look at the people on this board and how they respond to each other and women. The only time a woman seems to get any ‘positive’ response (I put positive in quotes b/c it’s usually responses filled with bitch and derogatory sexual advances) is when she is half-naked or naked. Then she is ‘wifey’ material.
In any other instance woman deemed useless and people are more interested in arguing about G-Unit and Lil Wayne. Admit it you do it and many of you are starting to believe the hype. And you do it because it is acceptable….whether it is right or wrong
June 26th, 2008 at 9:13 am
Yeah we don’t have plans to fly crack over.
We don’t own record companies to say what’s put on the radio or what America likes, but our greed and our lust for money, and power pushes us do things that are degrading and keep us in this downward spiral.
We are not pimps, ho, gangstas, drug dealers, and criminals.
We are black men and woment with extraordinary abiliites to so great things like be CEO, Doctors, lawyers, etc… but we as a people must stop taking the easy way out like glorifying the negativity in the “hood”
June 26th, 2008 at 9:17 am
I meant to say…. “Black women and Black men”
June 26th, 2008 at 9:52 am
2 words Killer Mike…….THAT NIGGA WOULDA KILLED THAT PANEL. Check out his interview on mass appeal. Google “that’s Life” By Killer Mike!!!!! Cube…Mike and Dead Prez r the only spokes people Hip Hop Needs.
P.S. why Banner always Start with that coonery smile a
then go all Holy’er than Thou with Black Man Anger Tell that Country Negro to Chill!!! We Dont Believe U…..u need more people.
June 26th, 2008 at 10:56 am
yea i dont like david banner acting like tha typical angry black man. and then he gonna blame bet for making him look foolish. na homie u did that yourself. instead of goin off on your own agenda why dont u debate the issue at hand and stop yelling like a child.
hiphop is always being looked down upon by those who dont understand it, becuz all they see is a big black man stomping and yelling and acting like he either needs a bottle or some handcuffs
niggas wanna ball till they fall, so if i can ball out by selling out my young women, not the video hoes, but the young girls who think thats all they have in this world to offer then so be it
June 26th, 2008 at 11:03 am
This issue of hip hop’s violence, misogyny, & stereotypical & distorted portrayals just seems so redundant to me. I feel like yea BET can hold a panel & discuss the issue but will anything change?
With the freedom to entertain & freedom of expression comes responsibility. & these entertainers(rappers, singers, actors, models) need to at least be conscious & self-aware of how they’re advertising themselves & portraying themselves through their art. When you are in the public eye like that, you have an insurmountable amount of power to influence & convince the masses…
Kids learn by observation; they are like sponges & they absorb everything around them & their environment, that’s how they learn. It’s up to the parents to really inform their kids & teach their kids what is ‘just for entertainment’ & what’s not; what’s real & what’s not.
At the end of the day everyone is accountable for his or her own actions. & in life each & everyone of us are faced with choices & personal decisions; We can’t keep scape goating & can’t keep putting the blame on hip hop & the media for the problems going on within the Black community at large, as influential as the media may be. Not saying there aren’t some things that need to change as far as media is concerned because it is responsible for some of the negative steretypes & one-sided portrayals of African Americans. But, you have to make a personal choice & say I’m not gonna fulfill that stereotype…
June 26th, 2008 at 11:06 am
Pounce is a very itelligent individual with a lot of perspective. This is refreshing, because what i’m used to seeing on this site are some of the most ignoran brainwashed coon bandits of our century trying to make valid points about bullshit. They defend the game in his niggery, 50 in his niggery one against the other neither with any richous cause. DB is an intelligent individual and hes educated unlike 50 or game. and he is stepping up because you know what ignorance is bliss. DB knows better and he feels guilty for the bullshit that he has out out in his time. He needs to rehearse like the great debaters and go hard next time he is invited to a panel. Due to his archetype he wasn’t getting the respect that he wanted on that panel. The “Professinal” black folks weren’t giving him a chance.
June 26th, 2008 at 11:07 am
@ nik
when what people(including David Banner) need to do is keep is honest and admit to themselves/others and say yes there is negativity perpetuated about Black women and Black women and I am apart of it because it sells or because it is a ‘cool’ thing to do.
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i bet u if david banner admitted to such things he would be criticized by those other panels saying you should stop makin that type of music. i bet u those panels wouldn’t wanna hear anything that came out this guy mouth. they would only stress the fact that banner and other rappers should stop doing that.
i wasn’t making excuses but what i saying is that if you don’t like music that got bitches and hoes said in it don’t listen 2 it nobody is being force 2 listen to it.
so what if u think that hip hop make women look bad there is playboy, movies , and etc. that make women look worser, those women in those videos chose to do that and those women aren’t degrading black women they are degrading themsleves.