Top 5: Things That Need To Be Retired From Hip Hop
5. The Milli Beat - Since Lil Wayne’s ,”A Milli,” leaked there have been about a milli rappers freestyling to it. Not only rappers, but even R&B singers have been inspired to spit a freestyle(Ne-Yo,Chris Brown,R.City). With Lil Wayne doing a remix, it is time to retire the beat.
Check below for the remaining 4 things that need to be retired from Hip Hop. If you feel I’m missing something or disagree, leave a comment.
Photo by Nigel D.
4. Auto-Tune Effect - T-Pain obviously didn’t create the auto-tune effect but he made it extremely popular with hit after hit. He became highly sought after for hooks for every rapper out. But some weren’t willing to pay 85k and others decided to use the effect themselves. T-Pain may be mad about people swagger jacking but he cant complain since he didn’t invent the effect. The list of rappers now using the technique continues to grow from Snoop Dogg, Kanye West, 50 Cent, Lil Kim, LL Cool J, random youtuber, Yung Berg, and Lil Wayne. It has become to common and often annoying, with some people forcing it. It is time to give this effect a loooong break.
3. Shouting Out Name Brands - Rappers are known for showing off and bragging about what expensive items they have in their closet. Soulja Boy got started talking about, “Bathing Apes,” & now has moved on to a, “Gucci bandanna.” Blood Raw prefers a, “Louie Bag,” The Pack rocks, “Vans,” & Beyonce named a whole heap of brands to Upgrade You. I’m not hating on people being able to buy the finer things in life, it just makes little sense to promote brands that won’t even claim you. The Pack had problems with making a video for, “Vans,” due to the brand not cosigning them. After years of boasting about popping bottles of Cristal, Jay-Z ended up boycotting them after they made racist remarks. So if your promoting a brand in a song make sure its yours or your at least being compensated for it. The worse thing to do is promote a brand that doesn’t even want you owning their merchandise.
2. The Term, “Real Hip Hop” - It seems, “Real Hip Hop,” is in the eyes of the beholder. If a person doesn’t like a particular style of rap they may feel the need to say it is not, “Real Hip Hop.” Real is defined as, “reflecting the essential or genuine character of something.” When it comes to Hip Hop it comes down to rapping over a beat, that simple. Doesn’t matter if the lyrics or beat are horrible it is still Hip Hop. Instead of saying it is not, “Real Hip Hop,” it would be appropriate to say it is not ,”Quality Hip Hop.”
1. CDs - In the new digital age every album is available for download at least a week before the physical CD drops. Most people don’t even use CD players anymore, to the point people would look down on you for having one on the train lol. MP3 players are superior to CDs in terms of capacity and portability, there is no competition. As a result CD sales are on a sharp drop, Warner Music Group has created plans to improve sales but I doubt they will work. Unless a CD has bonus footage on it you are basically just paying for the cd booklet. When I do purchase a CD I just rip it to my computer and on to my mp3 player. It is time to give up on CDs and keep everything digital(unless you got DVD footage along with it).
Notable Mentions:
Remixes with the same people over and over.
Rappers throwing jabs in hopes of popularity.
Radio stations playing favorites and trying to force people to like songs.
Hip Hop fans too concerned with sales instead of quality.
Article by Nigel D.
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June 25th, 2008 at 9:44 am
agree… some of this shit done in hip hop gets annoying after a while
June 25th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Agree with 5,4,2,1 tha cd is DEAD!
June 25th, 2008 at 10:15 am
The whole top 5 was on point.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:26 am
Good read
June 25th, 2008 at 10:43 am
GOOD LOOK REAL TALKNY…NOW IF YOU GUYS COULD ONLY GET WAYNE AND 50 CENT’S KIELBASA OUTTA YA ESOPHAGUS…UGHHHH
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June 25th, 2008 at 10:44 am
AND THIS BANGLADESH GUY LOOKS LIKE HE POPS OXY, AND PERCS..LMAO
June 25th, 2008 at 11:06 am
I agree with everything except for the CD’s…I like buying em and collecting them. Even though I do just put in itunes n throw it on my ipod…it just feels better 2 go out and actually buy the album instead of it just downloading. Its nice 2 have n look at. I’m not a fan of downloading albums and you can call me old fashion is ya want….But I will continue to buy my CD’s/albums until they stop making em completly. And if they do that….then ima be upset. Lol
June 25th, 2008 at 11:07 am
a milli a milli a milli lmao
((represent new orleans like a fleur de lis))
June 25th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Didn’t Clipse start the whole bathing ape thing?
June 25th, 2008 at 11:16 am
yo i ont give a fuck, ima keep buyin Cds, 10 years later im gonna be like them dudes that still want records
June 25th, 2008 at 11:19 am
[i]a couple thoughts… on two of your Top 5.[/i]
[b]1. CDs - [/b]
I think this has a long way togo. I was just talking to someone about this, on the way to work. We are basically no where near having tha right kind of technology to eliminate the CD. I think all that we have done is become dependent on Mp3 players to get us music, which doesnt make a whole lot of sense considering it depreciates/wear/tear and things of that sort. The only way the Cd will become eliminated is if Manufacturers, particularly car makers start building their cars with Hard drives already in them. That’s way more sensible than a device that you carry around/drop/damage. Right now, there are only about 1-3 car make/models that actually have that and although you can run to Circuit City/Best buy/Audio Express/Any other Chop shop electronic installation store and spend $800-$2,000 to have this, it doesn’t make economical sense.
[b]4. Auto-Tune Effect - [/b]
Couldnt agree with you more there… I think i saw the worst performance Ever of KanYe who is my favorite artist… tha Nigga straight tore tha show down here in Phoenix….that BET Performance last night was absolutely pathetic courtesy of AutoTune/Vocoder bullshit.
[b]5. The Milli Beat -[/b]
What makes it sooo bad.. about this song.. is that there is no Video. So he’s got all this pub off this song with No Video to show for it…His album should tank very soon. probably wont hit double platinum status.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:22 am
i agree with radio station force that wack ass game single on niggaz no 1 wanna hear that nigga juss play the hook cuz keisha gets love
June 25th, 2008 at 11:57 am
3 MORE YOU FORGOT:
-BEEFING
-TIGHT JEANS
-ILLITERACY
June 25th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
all 5 were ture
as far as the auto tune..people need to stop usin it
except for tpain who was the reason it was popular
and some times lil wayne lol
June 25th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Everyone and their mom thinking they can rap ? kill off Myspace ha for real though if you can’t rap or aint making an improvment on Hip Hop don’t pick the mic up. We really could of done without D4L, Soulja Boy, Mims, Hurricane Chris and many other I mean Chicken Noodle Soup, Laffy Taffy ? Are you taking the piss ? Beats being more important than lyrics that needs to stop .
June 25th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
I like the post, Nigel. I disagree about one part, though.
The term “Real Hip Hop” refers to a lot more than rapping over a beat. Hip Hop is what encompasses rap, along with dance, graffiti, and deejaying.
“Real hip hop” is hip hop that advances this art form that we all love. Most importantly, it has respect for hip-hop as an art form. It isn’t ‘real hip hop’ when a rap song is exploited so the artist/record label can make fast profits (ringtones, iTunes singles, etc).
“What they call hot, I would call so lame
They don’t care about the art, and they show no shame” - Styles P
June 25th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
I thought number one was going to be Soulja Boy. Oh well.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
#10 - DONT keep buying Cds. It’s not only a huge waste of your money, but it tells the music industry that their business model is working.
Buying a physical CD is like buying a Tape. Seriously.
http://www.hiptics.com
June 25th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
I add :
- Cheap audio ingineering
- Thin snares that sounds like anorexic drumboxes
- Useless videoclips (99.99% of them)
June 25th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
na u buggin, i will still buy CD’s, i have built a collection and i like to read producers, engineers, what studios songs are mixed at, who’s getting the publishing for which joints, who’s ghostwriting.
it seems easier to open the cd than to find shit online, and thats how u seperate the “quality hiphop” from the “wack hiphop”
i buy “quality hiphop” but i download everything else
fake rap beef should be higher, and tpain can keep using his voice thing, damn never every joint he touches is a banger, especially for the summertime in the whip
June 25th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
His define of what real hiphop is is his own opinion but other people may have there own opinion. And what if there wasn’t a define of hiphop dude just waisting his time giving his opinion. There a difference between hiphop and rap and the difference is hiphop is real and rap is fake. Plus this dude said that “It doesn’t matter if the lyric or beat are horrible it still hiphop”. So what he telling me is that i can jump on any beat and both beat and lyric can be horrible and it could still be hiphop BULLSHIT.
If that the case then that mean that i could rap about fuckin hoe’s buying cars and close and it could still be hiphop which those lyric are horrible. And then that shit would be fucked up being that it would send the wrong message to fans then fans are gonna think that even tho it’s horrible that it still hiphop. Then there gonna start thinkin that song that talks about fuckin hoe’s and buying cars and close is hiphop which is brainwashing. And if that carry on then that gonna fuck up and confuse the people to think what is hiphop and what is rap. I think this dude need to get the fuck outta here with most ofhis fact cuz to me there ain’t know such thing as real hiphop. Maybe quality hiphop which he’s right and which is the only thing but not real hiphop. In my opinion if a song is base on entertainment the fans by rapping about fake shit and shit that does not has anything to do with there life is not hiphop it rap. And whether if it has something to do with there life but it not seriously then i still wouldn’t consider it hiphop but rap. Hiphop is something real that go’s on in a person life whether it the struggle death education genocide prositution or others and they rap about it. Crankin dat soulja boy snappin fingers and 2 steppin is not hiphop and it not something serious that go’s on in a person life.
So is he trying to say that those songs are consider hiphop my answer would be hell no. It’s entertainment and there basically entertaining you with what there doing and rapping about. And i can’t even call it rap because that something that hiphop artist and rap artists do they rap about things. So instead of calling them rappers or calling there song rap music ill just call them entertainers who make entertaining music.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
What I dont understand is why Downloads cost as much as regular CD’s. They dont have to produce the CD, package the product, waste ink on making the booklet, or ship the product.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:02 pm
number 5 and 2 I agree with it and number 1 I’m undecided on CD’s because that’s apart of selling in volumes. If the digital downloads can cut the middle man out than I agree with getting rid of CD’s. As for number 4, T-Pain didn’t start that shit fuck that. That’s that Roger and Zapp shit. more bounce to the ounce shit. and for the youngins that California Love shit. still keep number 4 just don’t play it out but it could be brought back again. that’s west coast music right there. you can’t fade that away. you fadin the west coast away then. As for number 3, I think that’s always gonna be hot when you spit the new fashions out. you on that next shit with the swagger and all that. When Biggie brought up that moschino,versace, that shit was hot. People ain’t know about that swagger cause that’s apart of that grown man on right there. New York is always gonna be ill with that. They is more privileged than the rest of the states cause they is the number 1 market. they get it first too. you gotta keep number 3, that’s that new fashion right there. definite keepers number 3 and 4. with number 3, it gotta be hot though and don’t spit it after it’s not new anymore. that’s seven days right there.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:25 pm
In regards to #1—Yeah, I still cop the CD and keep the freeware if it’s worth supporting. The fact remains that MP3’s aren’t as personal as an actual physical CD booklet with pictures you can keep forever—or something for the artist to SIGN when you meet them. What they gonna sign your iPod? A cheap flyer that you’re gonna lose? MP3’s are a neccessity for the convenience of your collection, especially while you’re on the go, but if you out there buying “rented” MP3’s from the likes of iTunes and such, you’s a fuckin’ fool. Hard drives and computers fail, but you can always rip that CD anytime you want (that’s if you care about the music and you ain’t no lazy listener). Buy MP3’s is like a mu’fucka selling you air. You better cop something physical!!! But props to the “Notable Mentions.” Those are the “real” things that need to be deaded.
Aiight Nigel. Good read. TSS out this bitch.
*goes back next door*
June 25th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
whats wrong wit this nigga……seems to be fucked up on something
June 25th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I actually like the fact that many rappers rap over the same hot beat. it’s fun to hear different versions. I guess it’s cause I’m so used to reggae where it’s standard to jump over a hot beat and make their own version. That’s a reggae thing.
June 25th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
I agree with Basel…The Millie beat has become a riddim but it’s still overkill…i don’t even think i know a dancehall or reggae riddim that has had 29 artists on them…and most of these dudes are just doing it so people will listen cause of the beat, not because they want to. The top 5 seems accurate though
June 25th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
Good point, Brookland (#22).
I think because of the convenience. Click and you have it. That’s probably how they justify it, but it’s still some bullshit.
http://www.hiptics.com
June 25th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
who tha fuck is readin them long ass comments?
anyone?
((represent new orleans like a fleur de lis))
June 25th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
1 more thing yall forgot rtny: t-pain and that horrible top hat!!!
June 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
^^ lmao i know u talkin about White Milk that cracker ass faggot stays writing essays on simple topics…no one gives a fucck about what some illiterate white boy has to say about hip hop
June 25th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
^^^^just like yo mama white ass when i had her legs up in the back seat of my car.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Agree with 5,4,3 real hip hop means whats good in the same way you say “Real classical music or real rock” and the c.d i hope never goes there nothing like unwrappin that c.d and puttin it in the stero or your whip and crusin.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
i still buy cds. i dont like downloading. the reason is because i like having the organial copy the actual thing. and evrybody on the t-pain thing needs to stop. he made it popular and everyone wants to to steal it. thats another thing killing hip-hop is swagger jacking.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:14 pm
#30 yng i like t-pains top hat
June 25th, 2008 at 5:28 pm
it sounds like some of ya’ll are saying real hiphop cant be wack, real hiphop has to be good music, and wack music shouldnt be in the hiphop category.
different strokes for different folks,
i thought tribe called quest was real hiphop, and good music
i thought jungle brothers was real hiphop, but wack music
i agree wit rtny, as long as u got the beat, lyrics, flow, culture. its hiphop, maybe wack as shit, but still hiphop
June 25th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Look at BET, you can’t tell me you see all real hip-hop on there. That’s bullshit. Real Hip-Hop has to do with putting effort into creating some real to yourself and real to music. I don’t see that in a lot of music nowadays. Kanye West/Ludacris/T.I./Lupe Fiasco/Lil Wayne are the types of artists that ‘can’ make real music. Not Soulja Boy/Baby and your favorite hip-popster.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
i agree.. cds really arent used as much as it used 2
June 25th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
we need to ban white boys from publicly enjoyin or performing hiphop..u white boys can just buy the fuckin albums ..play it with ur friends in ur room but please and i repeat please do not attempt to bump that shit in ur car ..its disturbing to stop at a light n c a fuckin recknose blastin a style p, saigon or pac track like he relates to it or somthin.. call me racist if u wnt i dont giv a fuck …that shit neds to stop.. white boys are no longer allowed to publicly enjoy hiphop…as for the white girls …yall can buy albums and dance to lolipop while u suckin my dick..thats it im out
June 25th, 2008 at 11:42 pm
the arguement of if a certain style of music is hip hop not is really simple..i think realalkny broke it down rite..if its rap an theres a beat u can call it hip hop..up to u to decide if its good hiphop or not… its like gay ppl .we might not respect them as men but theyre still men simply cuz a dick makes them that ..same with hip hop if it has rap,a beat and snapping/tpainvoice/soljaboy dance in it …is still hiphop but the gay form of it
June 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
we need to ban white boys from publicly enjoyin or performing hiphop..u white boys can just buy the fuckin albums ..play it with ur friends in ur room but please and i repeat please do not attempt to bump that shit in ur car ..its disturbing to stop at a light n c a fuckin recknose blastin a style p, saigon or pac track like he relates to it or somthin.. call me racist if u wnt i dont giv a fuck …that shit needs to stop.. white boys are no longer allowed to publicly enjoy hiphop…as for the white girls …yall can buy albums and dance to lolipop while u suckin my dick..thats it im out
June 25th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
overuse of the term “hater”
it seems no one is allowed to have an opinion nowadays, without being called a hater.
“if i dont like, i dont like it, that don’t mean that im hating” - COMMON, The Sixth Sense.