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June 20, 2008

All About the Beat: Why Hip-Hop Can’t Save Black America

“[M]any hold on to the idea that hip-hop is ever on the verge of lifting black America up in a political revolution,” McWhorter announces, one that will “lift poor blacks out of ghettos and create a new day.” His constant assertions about hip-hop’s true nature purport to prove why this cannot happen. It is “about attitude and just that,” “in its very essence, angry,” “all about that upturned middle finger,” “about being oppositional regardless of the outcome,” “all about the ‘I’ doing the rapping” and “about quick thrills and settling scores, rather than reasoning, discovering, and building.”

Full Article: LA Times

The LA Times give a review of a new book speaking down on Hip Hop’s ability to uplift the black community. What are your thoughts on the author’s premise?

18 Comments so far

1.
anons wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 3:20 am

Hip Hop is a reflection of America’s deep inner psyche- racism, materialism, arrogance, and violence. Anything that is money driven can never and will never be revolutionary.

2.
WestCost wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 3:25 am

shut the fk up u fkn moran writer this well pass and only one well care about ur article in the last page is ur mom knowing u just got fired fk boy lolololol

3.
bigyouth007 wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 3:28 am

back then hip hop used to be a step for young black people to show off that they can reason positively, look at it now, it’s kinda like rappers are just celebrating their ignorance.
if a rapper brings positivity and consciousness (e.g. Nas, Tupac) everybody and their momas critisize but whenone is just about killing people, selling drugs, disrespecting women and any sort of pure negative and ignorant shyt (Dwane) everybody and their moms be on their dick.

4.
bigyouth007 wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 3:33 am

are we (black people) suppose to be turned into a “thug nation” as according to 90% of nowadays rappers.
see the global influence of hiphop culture in the whole urban youths of the planet.
would be a wonderfull thing if we had more mc with the sort of Mos Def content than those G unit Dipset shyt.

5.
Pounce wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 3:39 am

I didnt know hip hop was responsible for helping black people. I thought it was a culture that turned into a movement before it became a big business lol. Its music! No other expectations should be placed on hip hop other than entertainment.

6.
2cents wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 4:00 am

Co-sign 1,3,5

Whats good folks!?

7.
Numba wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 4:28 am

Remember Gil Scott Heron’s “The revolution will not be televised”.

8.
Backlash wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 5:08 am

All I Gots To Say Is .Here We Go Again, Here Comes Another Person, Talkin Down About HipHop, Trying to Make a Quick Buck, Find Another Target To Poke At Be Oringinal, This Shid Is Getting Aggervating.

9.
vigorous wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 5:48 am

how the fuck is hip hop going to “uplift” anyone, it’s nothing but fucking music !!! fuck outta here wit that bullshit!!! this article is corny. “uplift” my ass,like dudes dont got more important shit to worry about such as the REAL WORLD; music is jus an escape from the real world, it aint gonna uplift shit,NEVER…whoever wrote that piece is on crack-cocaine mixed with extacy

10.
2cents wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 6:09 am

Somethin to reflect on while I’m out…

Historically our (colored) music has had some sort of meaning (Spirituals, etc) I’m black and I’m proud, A change gon come, The message, etc are fairly recent versions of music with a purpose and the purpose was to make us feel good about being us! When todays music basically makes fun of us (as a total we are not rich, can’t afford to make its rain or burn money, etc) So in general this could be his point but in most folks lack of emotional intelligence they are upset once they hear anything about hip hop and recklessly defend the super idiotic parts of hip hop!

11.
BLANCH DEVOROE wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 7:05 am

true, but what we gonna do bout it????

12.
Hood Man wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 9:02 am

Black music has throughout histrory been more than just music from Blues Gospel jazz and soulmusic. A way too feel good and proud of yourself lyrics about uplifting and trying to figure out solutions to a better situation for black folks as a whole..etc. Both James Brown and Sam Cooke inspired black folks and are big part of the whole black revolution from back in the day when the black man and woman was seen as second-class citizien. Hiphop music is also more than just entertainment. It’s a lifestyle and many especially black folks identify very strongly with hiphop. It has almost become a bible to a large amount of black folks of how to be a “black man” in America. The sad part is that there’s too much negativity and glorify the thug life going to jail and so on if you listen to most of the rappers out there. A lot of people growing this way they adapt this gangsta and loser mentality that to them is a sign of being cool and how to be a “real nigga”. But the truth is they have no future and will not accomplish anything meaningful as times goes by. There are so many exapmes of when “keep in it real goes wrong”. I see it where I live EVERYDAY.

13.
WHITE BREAD TASTE GOOD WITH WHITE MEAT........CHICAGO wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 9:42 am

It funny how alot of ya’ll are getting mad at the article but i don’t think it mddness but confusion. For me im in the middle of agreeing and disagreeing with the article. I mean there a differencce between giving your opinion toward a topic to prove your point. then to give your opinion toward a topic to defend yourself. And if this article is proving a point then i have know problem with it. But if not then yes there is a problem. As far as the blogs ya’ll seem a lil defensive by saying that the article is corny. I mean i don’t think that rappers these day are helping out and supporting hiphop the way they suppose to. And i also don’t think that rappers are getting any smarter but richer and dumber. It obvious that the hoods ain’t getting any better but more ignorant and violent for know reason. And hiphop itself ain’t getting anymore inspirational but is lacking musically. I think it the fans and rappers who has to figure out a way and find out how to resolve the problem in hiphop. I personally think that there should be a sudden change in hiphop. And if not then topic like this is what gonna be shown and i know it hurt most of ya’ll to read topic like this.

14.
Pounce wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 10:36 am

Black people are in a bad position in the eyes of society right now and have been for sometime. Thats no secret. But because of that, anything that we have… we look to for help. Hip hop is the biggest example, then sports in my opinion. I dont know any of race or group of people in general that look to a form of music to help uplift them.

15.
INTERNET GANGSTER wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

man i don’t listen to anything but hip hop but i know to seperate it from real life…most the people i know who listen to hip hop is stupid as fuck….why dont they cooperate with police in finding criminals because a rapper told them to. yall wear wat u wear cus a rapper wears it. you talk the way you do because a rapper talks that way. Hip hop is the only music that actually takes an entire race of people and controls there thoughts and actions and most the songs by people who seel are about murder so maybe yall can stop thinkin that people are hating on hip hop and just realize you need to step back from hip hop and look at yourself

16.
Pounce wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

#15 hip hop does influence people but it doesnt control them. Plenty of white boys get fashon tips from their rock & roll or Emo music. When Marilyn Manson was big, it was plenty of people that went gothic. Plenty of white girls get fashon tips from the hills and other MTV type shit so your wrong about race being controlled by hip hop.

The number one consumer of hip hop music is white people. They also buy a lot of the clothing associated with the culture/music. As hard as it is to be black, its very ironic how many people realize its cool to “dress black”, and do shit that black people do on a regular basis. The races that bite black styles think its cool but dont have to deal with the other side of the coin when your stopped by cops for wearing that fitted or bitches hold their purse when you walk by. White people look at their kids like they are goign through a faze when they listen to hip hop and start dressing “like black people”. Fact is niggas need to stop blaming hip hop for everything.

17.
politix wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 7:28 pm

hip hop could never uplift black america especially when the rappers selling the most records (lil wayne 1.01 mil) 1st week…has a track called Misunderstood in which he proceeds to say “fuck you” to Al Sharpton.

18.
2cents wrote on June 20th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

man, I swear i been hearin an echo… ;0)

Its a beautiful thing though!

And @ Pounce and Politix (as colored people in a supposed closed discussion) We can’t admit hip hop or the main stream form of it is poisonous?

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