lol @ Ice son at the end……

while all of you was like ” good for you soulja boy stand up for yourself!”

i was like.. SMH

Ice T is a vet , hes been in the industry for 80+ years (accoriding to soulja boy) of course he has conects, ice t could black ball that shit stain, maybe not much but still block some funds

ICE T GET EM!!

Hit I agree wit T man he most likely got some serious connects

Ice T is washed up..
Soulja boy is wack

END OF DISCUSSION!

Soulja Boy music is wack, yes but Ice-T was wrong for the way he went at him. If all you wanted to say is Soulja boys music is garbage, then say “Soulja boy’s music is garbage in my opinion”. Don’t insult the kid.

Besides, I’m not entirely sure Soulja Boy’s audience is 50year old men.

LMAO at the end…

All you clowns stickin up for soulja boy are retarded. He’s been in it for a such a short time tryin to go at someone in the game for MUCH longer. HE can’t win.

I can’t stand soulja boys music and I’m no huge Ice fan either but I got nothin but repsect for someone with his influence and contribution to music.

And like Ice said soulja should respect his elders and he’s only 17 and probably hasn’t had a fractoin of the experience that ice had.

Fuck souja boy

isnt soulja boy 16 years old???? smfh @ hip hop

i hate rap music now:{

i don’t like soulja boy but im not goin say he killed hip-hop. technology, internet, and all this other bullshit killed hip-hop. if we didn’t have limewire and internet and shit people would still be buyin albums even soulja boys album. nobody wouldn’t even thinkin bout him if album sells were up

Ok. Let me break this whole shit down right quick.

1. Don’t be fooled. This is great almost-viral advertising for Ice-T and Soulja Boy for two reasons. First, Ice-T is using SB’s popularity to boost his visibility. Second, this “beeflet” will keep sb’s career going longer, because now all of his young fans will rock his shit even harder. This strengthens SB’s brand by making him seem more rebellious and irreverent, and Ice’s by making him more visible (he has enough cred).

2. If this IS real, it’s really stupid. All of it. We all know that SB’s music is a gimmick. We all know Ice is an OG. Great. But, SB’s brand is huge with kids, who can’t appreciate the old school, or anything more complex than candy. Soldier Boy is the spongebob of hip hop, but whoever made spongebob is PAID.

3. Garbage sells. White kids LOVE soldier boy. Why? It’s perfectly packaged blackness. It’s like you get a hood party in your whitebread suburban house everytime you put it on. AND their parents hate it. If they knew what he was saying, they’d hate it more, and the kids would rock it more. As far as a product, SB is genius. His shit is perfectly targeted to the MTV audience. And that’s what is is A PRODUCT. All the motherfuckin record execs LOVE IT. I wouldn’t be surprised if they designed it themselves. Don’t believe me?

WATCH THIS. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/cool/

They research these kids. They go to their houses and STUDY these kids. THEY GO THRU THEIR CLOTHES. They know them better than they know themselves. SB didn’t just pop up on the top 40 by himself. he was PUT there by somebody, just like everyone else on music video tv. Because of that, Ice-T has got to know that SB isn’t the only person in that studio. That’s why this is all either STAGED MARKETING or FOOLISHNESS.

Hip Hop is far from dead. It will be if we depend on Ice T and fuckin Soulja Boy to save it. Neither one of these niggas is makin my Ipod, and neither will any of the freestyles that they make about this new “beef” they have created. This shit is really ridiculous, yet entertaining. I say Soulja Boy and yo son jus scrap and get it over wit lmfao.

Wonder what the other old heads got to say about Ice T going at Soulja Boy? 50 had a lot to say about GZA when he dissed him. I hope cats like Snoop ain’t co-signing this. Soulja Boy keep doing ya’ thing, the more you’re successful the more people hate, bottom line homie.

Ice T lost my respect….

even if his music does suck don’t try to mess up his career!!!

& speaking of loss of respect….

I lost what little respect I had for 50… he scum. puttin buck out like that.

FUCK ICE T

ice-t lost.

it’s like shaq going to a basketball court and tellin all the 10 yr olds they suck and should stop playin

he said its not west coast vs east coast

but then he said “theres gonna be ramifications” bla bla bla…the whole west coast aint feelin you now..

wtf?

lets take a look at it this way

this is like an old man telling a young kid not to party and have fun.

of course the kid is gonna say stfu u old ass. the kid’s still gonna do his thing til he grows out of it.

i bet theres hella rap doods who think soulja boy is whack. but again, he’s 17.

I agree wit
Ice-T

Fuck Ice-T, this nigga 50 act like it
let young niggaz eat damn
and you got ya bitchass son saying tha same shit
waz up with all this eat a dick shit fucking fag

why this nigga go sit his ass down
being a real bitch right now

damn Ice-T stop fucking round with these lil niggaz
worry bout ya own shit you and ya punkass son

Hip hop died when it went up for sale… Limewire and downloading shouldn’t stop the music… all forms of music have been affected by th ecomputer age, there’s no excuse… YOU are probably the reason hip hop seems dead or needs to be brought back to life!

p.s. I’m fukkin wit the previous post by breakdown

he had more input nd say into his 1st album than “established” artist do who been in da game for a min evr1 be takin cheap shots cuz he commercial if nigga sells a milli nd niggas who been in da game have trouble doin 300k dere is clearly an apparent void he is fillin in the market for his style of music

Did he just threatening a 17 year old kid? Shyt times most be hard for ICE T.. Law Order SVU must got canceled LOL hahahahahaha

lol @ Ice son!!!!!! Nigga sound pussy as fuck
Nigga grew his rich ass up in Beverly Hills lol
Ice - T is a clown ass nigga 4 even commin out his mouth bout SB. Nigga been in the game mad long. He should know that bum ass rappers careers dont stand a chance. JUST LEAVE IT ALONE

in the jungle the jungle rules apply! Lil nigga shouldn’t be talkin so much if he can’t take what comes back at him!

It is what it is though can’t say I heard the threat but he may jus be threatening his cash flow which is what everyone worries about! Stacks on deck…

100% with #10
100% with #10
100% with #10
100% with #10

Yo I’m a Kanye fan….but even I don’t agree wit wat he said. Soulja Boy and Nas in one sentence is just fucking disrespectful.

MannNNN siT y0 0ld ass d0wn wit that 0ld ass Ivers0n jersey Ivers0n dnt even wear tht shit n0 more LMA0..im fr0m tha westc0ast and we dnt give a fucc anbut iCe t..and his s0n sound like a bitch “Hey solja boy im 16 im your age”… shut y0 c0rney ass up hahahahaha

People now and days don’t know what hiphop really mean beside the person who created and came up with the name. If people really knew what hiphop really meant then artists like soulja boy wouldn’t be consider as a hiphop artist. It get to a curtin point where all of you fans who make comment and talk that real shit about knowing what hiphop really means don’t know shit. Because all it is is your honest opinion about knowing what hiphop is. And at this point nobody knows what hiphop is everybody has there own opinion to what hiphop means. But non of there opinion are true and non of there opinion doesn’t really matter. At this point in time if the word hiphop is not in the dictionary then it has know definition know matter how right anybody definition is to what hiphop means it would still wrong.

Nobody shouldn’t give there define of what hiphop means cuz if people really knew what hiphop really meant. Then everybody would have the same define of what hiphop really means and they wouldn’t put soulja boy under hiphop. Because all that bullshit that soulja boy rap about including his character is the totel oposite of what hiphop is. And it sucks because fans are actually buying into what soulja boy is doing and calling it hiphop. It like there pokin fun at hiphop knowing good and well all that soulja boy is doing is making look cartoonish and dumb. I mean there nothing new that soulja boy is bringing to hiphop maybe to rap but not hiphop.

Because hiphop take more then that it take more then just crankin day hoe and snapping yo fingers and that what soulja boy is doing. But we has hiphop fans want to see more then entertainment we want to see talent and soulja boy has know talent what so ever. And what make it even worse is that fans are siding with soulja boy. But then they’ll turn around and give there own opinion of what hiphop is. And it be the totel oposite of what soulja boy is not toward hiphop. Then they’ll turn around again and side with soulja boy and say that he’s hiphop.

It like ya’ll are contradicting yourself by saying one thing then turn around and say the totel oposite. I think fans now and day are confused as far as what hiphop really means. All i can say is that hiphop is definetly growing and changing all at the same time. But as far as to judge it by giving my define or to say that it dead would be wrong. As for kanye who’s to say if he’s right or wrong all he’s doing is giving his honest opinion. As for Ice T who’s to say if he’s right or wrong cuz all he’s doing is giving his honest opinion as well. And as for soulja boy well ya’ll can call him whatever ya’ll want but just not hiphop period.

lol… i’m on it…

i usually ignore u white bread but from your last post I’m feelin you’re like a 12 yr old female who needs to stop followin in the ignorance your parents settled for and learn simple grammar!!!

p.s. Damn you really been postin all weekend you keep a laptop or you be on the phone doin this sh!t?

IS KANYE SIPPING SYRUP WITH WEEZY? HIDDEN MEANING? SOULJA BOY? WTF? HE THINKS EVERYTHING HAS A HIDDEN MEANING, YOUUUUUUUUU HAVE A HIDDEN MEANING, GOOD THING IS SO HIDDEN YOU’RE TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT SO HARD YOU KEEP BEING ENTERTAINING, KANYE JUMPING ON THIS KINDA SHIT, FUCKED UP KID

From now on, this taught me somethin, the next time I think somebody’s a wack rapper or mc or whatever, I’m a just say this is wack industry, because they are solely the ones to blame why you got something that is considered wack in hiphop standards. can’t front though, Kanye got a good point. he shined the light on that Nas silent murder shit. fuckin true. the evolution of this music was based on wack and dope and what was excepted later. they used to dis NWA and Ice T for all the negative shit they was spittin but it was too real to not accept. maybe with soulja boy, hey the “superman” is like the humpty dance in the 90’s and they ain’t dis Digital Underground(2 Pac’s old group). I know what the realness on this shit is, fuck singles let’s get back to dope albums. Let soulja boy have the superman song but have track 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12, on some other topics besides dancing all the time. but it’s tough to school that to a 17 year old.This hip hop shit is a tough act to follow. that’s why it’s still hard to this day to try to match Nas and Jay-Z’s careers with knowing on how to make a real hip hop album that sells at the same time.

corny. I’ve been a fan of Ice T for a long time but Soulja Boy still wins this one. Ice is dead wrong talking about how Soulja Boy should have taken the diss and not responded - when in hip hop would any artist let that slide? Not in Ice T’s day back in the 80s that’s for sure. That’s like saying Ice T should have shut the fuck up when LL Cool J dissed him.

lol @ Digital Underground being 2pacs old group… he was a memeber added the group existed 1st but your point is understood and I agree (for the most part)… IMO Its the commercial aspect of the music thats jacked up! There’s a million and 2 dudes tryin to get on their’s gotta be a few hot one’s ( like Joell Ortiz imo) but between hatin to make yourself feel greater and the industry streamlining what styles get to see the light of day its all messed up!

earlier I made an opinion on the hip hop game, but honestly, I THINK THIS SHIT IS A PUBLICITY STUNT BUT WE GOT TO WAIT AND SEE. REASONS WHY I THINK THIS SHIT IS A STUNT IS BECAUSE ONE. ICE T IS AN ACTOR. 2. ICE T IS A PIMP.( A REAL FUCKING PIMP) GETTIN HIS MONEY. 3. I CAN PICTURE ICE T DOING THE SOULJA BOY DANCE LIKE IT’S AN UPDATED PIMP DANCE SIMILIAR TO THE CRIP WALK( I’M NOT JOKING I’M SERIOUS NOT PLAYIN WIT THIS) PLUS THIS LOOK LIKE A YOUNG BROTHER SCHOOLING OLD BROTHER SOME NEW MOVES TYPE SHIT AND LETS MAKE AN ALBUM TOGETHER. ICE T TALKIN ABOUT WATCH THE INTERNET NOW YOU DONE FUCKED UP. FOR REAL THIS IS TOO LEFT FIELD FOR THIS TO HAPPEN. SOULJA BOY AND HURRICANE CHRIS PROBABLY COOL WIT ICE T SON. THIS SHIT IS TOO FAR.

u have 2 agree with ice t on a real

Ice T gets the player hater award for this one, props to dave chapelle…

I see souljah boy moving into tv comedies but im glad soulja boy responded to show he is an intelligent young man despite his silly music… this is a tough one though, ice t made great points 2, but ice t has an agenda.

u forgot to indent your paragraphs whitebread lol long ass fuckin post filled wit bullshit. yo i just got back from out of the country b…why the fuck aint nobody body this nigga whitebread off yet? yall niggas know we dont let homos post for too long on this site

lol @ 12 year old female and postin on your phone

“And at this point nobody knows what hiphop is everybody has there own opinion to what hiphop means. But non of there opinion are true and non of there opinion doesn’t really matter” “Because all that bullshit that soulja boy rap about including his character is the totel oposite of what hiphop is”

^^^???

“It like ya’ll are contradicting yourself by saying one thing then turn around and say the totel oposite. I think fans now and day are confused as far as what hiphop really means”

i told yall to stop readin this muthafucka comments

whitebread = 12 year old white girl typing comments on her cell phone

Ice T has a point. Soulja Boy didn’t even know he didn’t make the song “Fuck The Police”…N.W.A did.

Soulja Boy has a point too. Alot of people would kill to be in his position.

But Ice T is a legend. He can say whatever the fuck he wants. Soulja Boy has the right to reply too.

Big ^ To Ice T mentioning Lupe Fiasco. My nigga don’t get his shine…besides all that. It was funny when his son said “eat a dick…”

if u dont respect his music dont listen 2 it, that just pure hatrid when tell a youngin eat a dick Y u hatin 4????

(i aint even a soldier boy fan, i’m just youngin in business who gets hassled by people 3 times my age and i make more commision than them so i’m doin somthing right)

Kanye is Correct !

Ice T is a hater. How did a 17 year old kill hip hop with one song.

No wounder Kanye taking Soulja Bou side he applies to that wack music and Kanye always has to be in shit that don’t concern him just like The Game. But real talk he is garbage its about time someone said it we have the chicken noodle soup, laffy taffy & Crack dat how piece of garbage. Age shouldn’t matter how old was Nas, Prodigy when they came up ? Ice-T is right what he said but wrong for how he said but Soulja Boy should of took the L for that Ice-T has connections. Ice-T is right with his opinion thats whats wrong with Hip Hop you have to come with a bullshit ass dance and people like that garbage, Ice-T is true nobody cares about lyrics anymore and thats a shame.

Only people who like wack music is sticking up for Soulja Boy.

HOW CAN KANYE BE SAYING SOULJA BOY IS HIP HOP AND KANYE AINT REALLY HIP-HOP F*CK OUTTA HERE!!! KANYE CAN EAT A D*CK 2!!!!

so cuz kanye made sum pop type shit he aint hiphop no more
but ice t can make a rock and roll album 10yrs ago and he is hiphop right. the dude wit the perm and the white wife right? the dude that plays the cop on tv

he (ice t) is looking like a hater right now, he can not like soulja boy without telling the world. what did he expect for soulja boy to agree wit him, or not defend his brand that is making him a star.
if lil wayne could evolve into a decent rapper so can soulja boy, cuz that what wayne used to look like to me.

if u dont like somebody music thats fine, but the problems in hiphop was around wayyyyy b4 soulja boy.
kanye is wilding a lil bit, but i understand his point about fresh and new trends

FIRST OF ALL ICE TEA WITH LEMON NEED TO STOP HIS ASS BEEN SOUR SINCE 83′ ICE TEA WITH LEMON DID NOTHING FOR HIPHOP……THAT’S Y LL COOL J ENDED YOUR SORRY ASS CAREER ,GO FIX BUILD A BEAR UP OOOPS I MEANT CO CO, NOT 4 NOTHING I RATHER MY DAUGHTER DO THE SUPERMAN THAN LISTENING TO CORNY ASS ICE TEA WITH LEMON SING ABOUT FUCK THE POLICE.

3. Garbage sells. White kids LOVE soldier boy

^^^ Nah get ur facts right, Herb ass white college boys and young wiggers liek Soulja Boy but the rest of us white boys like real rap around here in the Eastcoast plus i dont see no white people in them south videos bumin soldier boy all other people , oh yeah i cant speak for white boys in the south they probly listen to that shit wit there jeff foxworthy mustaches 2

Ice-T needs to shut da fuck up. I understand he’s been in game for a long time but seriously people what has he contributed to hip-hop recently???
Da answer is Nothing.
i aint no Soulja boy stan but i dont believe he killed hip-hop. He jus brought something fresh and new to the hip hop scene if u didnt like it, u didnt have to sing it or learn da dance steps. Also for Ice-T to put such a blame on Soulja Boy is jus absolutely stupid and demeaning.
I dnt think hip hop is dead either its jus new and different to what people were used to dts all it is.

Appreciate the old but dont put down da new.

Der aint nuting wrong with change.

Everybodys right..Hip Hop is suppose to be a lifestyle and points from a black perspective that takes on many forms.
Kanye is right and wrong. He know he can sell alot of records but when he came to NY Summer Jam niccas booed him.
No matter who u are 50, Jay Z, Wayne, Kanye its different because people will reject you while others will except u.
People are the enjoy and is usually decided by the masses but in my hood (Brooklyn) we play stuff the world my not except.

I can’t believe ICE-T is serious…..He’s the one that should be taking the high road. Soulja Boy is young and having a good time which he should be…and he made himself rich and can support his family. How is that wrong? Dance songs have been around since the beginning of Hip Hop (i.e. Pee-Wee Herman Dance, The Wop, The Humpty Dance, etc.) so what the fuck is Ice-T gettin all bent out of shape about??????? Ridiculous.

….besides, I couldn’t remember an ICE-T song or video to save my life. Did he have any hits???

cosign 39-40. kanye made most of his samplin other ppl shit. everytime he spits hes corny. wack niggas gonna defend wack niggas. maybe ice shouldnt been 2 hard on em but soulja boy, hurricae chris, young joc and others fuckin this game up. cant believe ice gave props 2 wayne garbage ass and he spits crackhead shit. no substance, no sense fuck kanye!!

mdot u are dumb ass kid that dont know shit sit down and shut up matter of fact eat a dick.

@ 28

Sit yo punk ass down. Soulja boy is hip hop. His dance in 07 isn’t any more cartoonish or dumb then the type of shit they was doing back in the 80’s. His style dressing like a retard, again, is no worst then back in the 80’s. Hip hop didn’t start being fly (clothing wise) until Run-Dmc. As for his lyrics, he rappin about dancin, grades, girls, and getting haters out of his face. He rapping about what he knows just like everybody else. He is hip hop and what he is doing is no different then the first niggas to do this hip hop shit.

Lyrically Soulja boy ain’t no worst then “The hip the hop the hip the hippdy to the hip hip hop you don’t stop a rockin”….

lol at niggas defending songs like

YAH TRICK YAH and song about Bustin nuts on Bitches

lmao tells what type of parents they are

FUCK OUTTA HERE SOULJA BOY, ICE T KNOW WAZUP WESTCOAST!

listen the problem arises when we as fans allow certain words to be misused… for example, anybody can rap/ be a rapper. You put words together that rhyme and bam your golden. Not everyone can be an emcee. KRS-1 reminded us in that CLASSIC joint w/ Nas and them… that emcee-ing uplifts &/or educates the people. (BTW, What NWA and them did was educate the people b/c i ain’t had a clue what the west coast gang scene was like til them dudes came out). Tell us a story through your rhymes (and not how to stick a blanket to some biddy’s back) and there is a place for that kind of skill b/c Too $hort was nasty as hell but still lyrically dominates Soulja Boy.

therefore there is a difference b/t Hip-Hop and Rap. We need to stop calling everything that rhymes Hip-Hop. Rap is an art form but Hip Hop is a culture. IE- Yes Japanese people are Asian but they’re not Chinese… see the difference… No Soulja Boy should not be compared to Nas. He just a marketing ploy. That was good enough for him to move his mama out the hood. will he but good enough to keep her out the hood. step your game up. Every generation has whack acts. time tells if they can stick around. Strip away the music and you can’t recite that ish like it’s poetry.

Glad lil’ dude can eat but since when is it wrong for someone to call someone else whack. now Ice T shouldn’t have told him to eat a d!ck. But is everything considered hating? Y’all need to look up what HATING actually is cuz u got that ish wrong too. Ice T was right.. this new generation of fans w/ money really don’t give a F*ck abt lyrics, skill, and hard work. BRING BACK THE LYRICS please!!!!!!

“How is Soulja Boy going against the whole West Coast when he got dissed first?”

since when have rappers used logic?

2cent’…You could shut yo punk ass up bitch at least im proven a point what your dumbass doing bitch…#49…How about you sit your punk ass down fat by…soulja boy ain’t hiphop and if you think your correct with your post. Then your not hiphop your more like hipcock bitch.

west coast always hating on people…
ice cube and mack 10 hated on common’s type of music…
nwa hated on will smith’s type of hiphop…
deathrow…badboy…

the player hater awards is goanna be at ice t’s house yall, its gonna be a barbeque.

Fuck Kanye pussy.

If you think Soulja boy aint hiphop, then you really dont know what the fuck hiphop is!!!And tell the ex perm wearing fake ass pimp to stay out of Joeski Love videos about Pee Wee Herman dances!!! Do your fuckin research people!!!

If you think Soulja boy aint hiphop, then you really dont know what the fuck hiphop is!!!And tell the ex perm wearing fake ass pimp to stay out of Joeski Love videos about Pee Wee Herman dances!!! Do your fuckin research people!!!Hiphop cant die…mofos just need to smartin up…

all this @ u bullshit is corny,but everybody riding with soulja boy now is an official dick rider!!!!! kanye says something yall ride with him yall some fags SMH

i agree wit kanye
niggaz is 2 old 2 b disin lil kids
no respect 4nigaz like dat

Aint no muthafukin rulebook 4 hiphop
jus listen 2 wuteva u like

Co sign #51 (for real?!)

Callin whack niggas whack is Hip Hop…oh what?..an artist can rap about some anonymous dude being whack, but when they name names it’s hating?…Thats why rap is so soft now, cus niggas is too scared a politically correct to step up and say “that shit is wack”, like Nas did when he went on the radio that one time. that was Hip hop.

And when you think Soulja Boy think D4L. Just some niggas makin mind numbingly dumb music just to make money…and now where are they?..thats where Soulja Boy is headed if he doesnt step his game up.

And yall keep talking about His age and shit. Someone said “it’s like shaq going to a basketball court and tellin all the 10 yr olds they suck and should stop playin”…are you serious?…No its like Shaq going to some new rookie who is just playing terrible and telling him that he shoulda stayed in college(and to eat a dick)…Why do you think they stopped drafting highschool players?..because when you go to the league its a different ballgame, and these players weren’t developing and therefore weak players makes watching the NBA games boring and therefore it fucks up the nBA for everybody cus they lose money…..Soulja boy is in the league now..so all yall talkin bout “he’s 17, let the nigga get better at it”…shut that shit up, cus it prolly wont happen….yall the same niggas that call Bow Wow wack today…and he is wack cus he aint have the chance to develop into anything good, cus he came to the league early…So yea Soulja boy in the league and he got his money, but he’ll have a terrible carreer

no. 49 thats a classic hiphop lines u corny ass nigga u must be one of these wack lil kids defendin soulja boy. fuck kanye

how is hip hop dead when lil wayne sold a millie his first week

crabs in a bucket move ice u had no reason to say tha things u said tha boy doin music for tha yungstersthey dancin n shit instead of shootin n fightin give tha boy his props he created his own buzz if that aint hip hop essence i dont know wat is ice u wrong u a legend in tha game u know better than that n in tha new respponse he shows how silly he sounds if u stop sportin round tha fake white woman n do someone reproductive like open a hip hop school shit would be better- but solja made too much valid points u cant hate smh

Didn’t I tell you nigga the whole West-Coast is going to kill this lil nigga. The first person that will kill this nigga will be The Game, because that nigga Game love to be in some beef. See its like Hip-Hop needs this beef and after Game its goin to be everyone else in the West. Because nigga like Soulja Boy are really killin Hip-Hop and its time to kill these wack niggas so Hip-Hop can be Hip-Hop again…………………………

p.s.
Ice-T son LMAO. ( No Homo ).

-757 KING-

soulja boy had aright to defend himself. ice-t was out of line. like sb said why dont ice-t tell him how he can better his music instead of coming down on him so hard. soulja boy is poular for a reason. the money speaks for itself. black pple always bringing eachother down and dont want to see anybody do better than them. we need o get out of that mentality and work together to lift eachother up. as far as ice-t son in the end, he need to fall back somewhere cuz that shit aint that serious. im tired of young black men beefing over dumb shit. u dont like sb music then get da fuck on, daz it!!!!!!

True there is no rulebook 4 hiphop just listen to whatever you like. But in my opinion it’s still not hiphop it seem like people mix hiphop and rap together and get a lil confused. Back then alot of hiphop artist would have never accepted soulja boy’s music. And they sure would have never put it under hiphop. Its just funny how people minds have changed in the last few years. I mean soulja boy is a rapper not a hiphop artist; talking about crankin that hoe is not hiphop. But of course people may say that im wrong for the simple fact that this is a new generation and yes music is changing and growing. But at the same time we still have to understand where hiphop came from. #55 ruff the great’…”If you think soulja boy ain’t hiphop, then you really don’t know what hiphop is”. And you think by saying that you really know what hiphop is? Like i said no one knows what hiphop is know matter what your thoughts are on hiphop.

bottom line soulja boy went from being poor in the hood 2 buying a mansion and living good niggas should be glad to see a black male come up at least hes not talkin about toating pistols and banging he just amade a song for teens his age to dance to he stayed in his age bracket and wasnt tryna b hella grown ice-t need 2 fall back what example he setting for his kids walking around with a plastic ass wife thats always damn near naked talking about being an o.g niggas need 2 b a stand up man and raise they kids right so they wont have to go through all this hood gangsta shit how u gonna come at a lilttle 17 year old like that just cuz he all washed up

Kanye wild out for sayin SB was as lyrycal as Nas. Ice T just need tochill. Sit back and play wit ur coco puffs nigga. U in da hall of fame no need for u to get up jus relax. And SB jus doin u cuz u got ur buzz. I would like to see wat Nas says about Kanyes comment. Kanye was cool but now he goin down on the list. Nigga need to get smacked. How u compare illmatic to idk wtf that album is called. any way stay up real talk. 1

Im 18 yrs old and I perfectly understand wat da fuck Ice-T IZ saying and its true….
Wat da fuck kanye knows dat nigga grew up in da suberbs…
Now there aint nuthen wrong wit dat,but this shit came from da streets of sedwick ave in da bx and being dat I was born here I know da fuckin history…The solja dude iz a corn made 4 little kidz and unfortunately a lot of people my age or older still act like children lmao…MC Hammer got his money and we seen how dat turned out,not saying hiz music was’nt good 2 young kids da nigga looked like a fuckin ginni wich was appealing 2 children and white fans dat didnt kno nuthen about hip hop…….Wat im tryin 2 say iz this crap iz juz a fad like MC Hammer….

real talk I hate that soulja boy sh**. but if he getting his $ hey, If my son was getting like that I would be happy 4 him. Maybe this sh** aint hip hop Maybe it should be in another genre real HAPPY RAP or some sh**!!!!

SB is doing his thing and niggas put him down for no reason. Hiphop is not dead and even if Hiphop was dead it wouldn’t be SB’s fault. That’s one ignorant comment thinking SB killed hiphop. SB is part of hiphop. SB’s music doesn’t have to be exactly what you like but it’s still hiphop. I’m not a fan of SB but I’m not gonna put him down and say it isn’t hiphop only because I’m not into what he’s doing…He’s different and many of the young cats growing up like him a lot and he’s good at what he does.

Ice T lost.

some of these comments dont make no sense
when niggas was doin the humpty dance, it was all good right,when mc hammer and kris kross had they dances, they were a part of hiphop
when niggas was doin the butt, the pee wee herman, nobody was complaining, everybody loved dancing and having fun,
lyrical rap has its place, kiddie shit has its place
but in 2008 niggas cant dance no more, everybody gotta be a gangster right.
thats what killed hiphop fake ass gangsters that dance in the mirror and screwface at the parties.
fans dont believe you and we refuse to spend our money on u

THIS IS NOT RELEVANT IN HIP HOP. PLEASE DONT POST ANYTHING ELSE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THIS! YOU GET ENOUGH TRAFFIC ANYWAY! LET THEM PROMOTE THEMSELVES THROUGH THEIR OWN OUTLETS, PLEASE!

EVERYONE SAYS, HIP HOP IS DEAD HIP HOP IS DYING…NA ITS NOT. BUT THE MEDIA MAKES IT LOOK THAT WHY BY PROMOTING SHIT LIKE THIS! WHAT HIP HOP FAN NOWADAYS CARES ABOUT ICE T? SOULJAH BOI IS A FAD, HES GONNA WASH AWAY VERY SOON. NEITHER OF THEM ARE RELEVANT!

STOP THE MADNESS!

ice t, SHUT THE FUCK UP

This coming from a nigga who had a show on VH1 teaching rich white kids how to rap? Nigga you single handly killed hip hop.

so what wayne sold a millie!!! creatively its dead. if aint the club or money. what niggas talkin bout?? all u youngins need 2 shut up.

soulja boy plz superman this old man and his son..

Every rapper in the game came from the hood.. doesn’t mean they gotta do a fuckin dance to sell records. Fuckin faggots.

I respect what Ice-T tryna do but Hip Hop already dead.. Look at these ngz commentin on realtalk.. Thas evidence.

And I think Kanye just put Soulja Boy on Nas’ level.. If you doin that then what credibility could you possibly have? Stupid ass nga.

How is Ice-T wrong? GUARANTEED the next time Soulja Boy puts out a record people on this site are gonna be like “YO FUCK SOULJA BOY HIP HOP IS DEAD THIS SHIT IS WACK.” Hop off Soulja Boy dick..

I felt the same as Kanye, I’m in my 30s so my generation is the first to be able to look at the new-jacks from this perspective. Naturally we’re gonna have a different view from the ones enjoying it. But we didn’t have the same view when we were shaking and dancing to Humpty Hump, Fresh Prince or whoever else was making music equivalent to Soulja. P.S. ( I know the Prince and Digital Underground made other music eventually or simaltaneously). Anyway what’s wrong with the artists capitalizing off their work instead of record execs. Fault radio & tv programmers if someone’s ot be faulted.

oh yeah and if Soulja Boy is on Nas level.. How come we not seein a Kanye/Soulja Boy collab?

Sup Ye? Collab wit ya boy Soulja Boy… Y’all are hip hop..

ICE-T NEED 2 CALM DOWN 4REAL 4REAL!!
I MEAN PPL LIKE SONGS ABOUT DANCING OR DANCE SONGS ERYTHANG DONT GOTTA B HURD BCUZ OF DHA LYRICS! soulja BOI AINT HURTIN HIM OR MAYB HE MAD CUZ SOULJA BOI GETTIN HIS MONEY MAYB MORE D3N HIM!! I DONT GIVE A DAMN IF ICE ISZ AN OG OR VET HES NOT IN DHA RAP SCENCE NO MORE ANY WAY SO HIS ASS AINT GOT NO ROOM 2 TAWK BOUHT KILLN HIPHOP!! LIKE SOULJA BOI SAID U AINT DOIN SHIT ABOUT IT!! AND ICE-T’S SON AT DHA END NOOOO DAT SHIT…DAT SHIT RITE THERE WUZ WACK AS HELL!!
ICE-T NEEDS 2 CLOSE HIS MOUTH & COUNTINU3 2 AKT ON CSI OR WATEVA!! & LET SOULJA BOI DO HIS THING & G3T DAT MON3Y!!! POINT BLANK!

LOL @ hidden messages in that Soulja Boy song

Kanye is reaching.

Just because soulja boy went from being broke to getting out of the hood still doesn’t mean he’s hiphop. And people shouldn’t hide the fact he not hiphop and support him by saying tha he’s hiphop cuz then that make hiphop look bad. It sucks to see that fans are supporting rap music more then hiphop. And it funny when i hear people talking about supporting hiphop. But then ya’ll turn around and support the totel oposite. And then get mad when somebody proves you wrong and instead of you tryin to prove a point ya’ll go on and try to defend yourselve. My whole thing with hiphop is that it been around for over 25 year now. And after 25 year were still tryin to figure out the define of what it means.

#71′Eashia…”At least he not talking about toatin pistol and banging, he just making song for teens”…Yea like that make him more of a hiphop artist.But anyways my question is this if soulja boy is hiphop then what is lupe’ kanye’ commen’ and jay-z? It get to a curtain point where people shouldn’t say to much about what hiphop is. Because what would you say to yourself in the future if you found out that all this time that all your opinion and thought towards hiphop was all wrong…co sign #83 Wayne is trash stfu’…That if soulja boy does put out another record and as far as the dancing go’s. Hiphop dancers back then was meant to dance to multiple hiphop song it was meant to be a worldwide dance. But as far as soulja boy you can’t dance to any other song beside the crank dat spiderman song’ or superman song ‘ and any other soulja boy song. Dances like harlem shake’ chicken head’ and crip walk are meant to be dance to multiple songs being that there worldwide.

But as far as the soulja boy dance it’s not meant to be dance to any other song beside crank that soulja boy. And don’t get me wrong it still a worldwide dance. But you can only dance to it useing only soulja boys music. And with that being said and done i agree with Ice T. I think it time for real hiphop artists to stand up and say something and teach these lil kids what hiphop is.

FUCK SOULJA BOY!!! Ice has every reason to speak his mind, the nigga layed stepping stones for hip hop. Fuck kanye too for comparing SB and nas!!! WTF?!!!! those 2 shouldnt even be in the same sentence. SB speaks on elementary ryhmes, while nas is an intellectual MC. I hope SB gets burried and never gets the chance to drop another record

co sign #89 makaveli’…. LMAO “elementary rythmes” true.

kanye west is gay and lame as fuck

ii agree everyone is entitled to dere opinion so you cant really knock ice t or wat he has done.

but WHT BREAD you sed all that but still didnt define hip hop man!
its like you had supporting details to NO POINT!!
you still didnt say wat it means. you jus sed if u kne wat hip hop was den souljah boy wouldnt be consideredd a hiphop artist wat is it? who is classified under who isnt? who defines hip hop who doesnt?

when the sugar hill gang made rappers delight (considered to be one of the 1st main stream rap hits) dey wasnt making deep conscience over your head music they was makinn feel good music that you can dance to

Russell Simmons defined hip hop as modern mainstream young urban American Culture. dats like da def of who souljah boy is nobody is more commercial than him rite about now nobody is yunger den him either lolol nd he didnt come up pushinn a tape frm label to label he came upp da modern age way via myspace/youtubeee

It funny how kanye said “keep it fresh and original” speak for yourself as much as kanye samples get the fuck outta here. He lost my respect and that was stupide for him to use Nas as if Nas and SB are comparable. And just for the record soulja boy is not the true meaning of what hiphop is suppose to be. Just because he came from the hood and made it doesn’t mean he’s hiphop. And a new sound with a new dance is only for the soulja boy song. Which is also not hiphop all it is is entertainment. Then kanye said “If soulja boy ain’t hiphop then what is” well nobody know but it sure ain’t soulja boy. Then kanye said “Everything soulja boy said had a hidden message” “That Nas leverl shit” WTF. Then he also said “Ain’t know rules to this funkin hiphop shit and that what real hiphop really is”. Yea and that’s your opinion that doesn’t mean it true. It seem like kanye has his shit all wrong he’s reminding me of KRS1. When dude had picked 50 over kanye and said that 50 was more hiphop then kanye which in my opinion is true.

If Kanye is all bout Soulja Boy why dont you do a song wit6h him? or give him a deal on a beat..

Ye you a fuckin foool for compareing Nas to SB in ANY way, shape or form..

the dude above me and many others make a point but its a narrow minded one.. Remember, people said the same about MC hammer.. Tone Loc, and Kris Kross, and others.. Every rapper cant be street or rap like rakim. OPEN YOUR MINDS PEOPLE!! this is HIP HOP and it comes in all forms.. Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its not HIP HOP… the world is much bigger than your small city… WAKE UP!!

What the fuck happened in hiphop where a dude cant have an opinion on music anymore. If Ice-T thinks soulja boy is garbage then let it be that. A lot of people think soulja boy is garbage, he is.

Co-sign Kanye. Mothafuckas think art has rules….stupid fuck, just express ya self. That being said, I dont like SB music but Im sure ppl do. Some songs be knockin tho

I doubt 60% of you in here completed highschool. I’m tralking about “Clipz” “B Mario AYE” “Wayne is trash, stfu”

ETHER… it burns slow.

BOTTOM LINE IS

ice t is entitled to his opinion and anybody that bitches about it is contradictory because your stating your own opinion on something by bitching about me…hes human…humans get mad and say things they shouldnt…but thats how they feel…get over it

soulja boy on the other hand…came up from nothing to something…the american dream…idc if he did it singing the abc’s, the fact is he did and, and if u knock a nigga hustle your a straight hater…end of story…if he ruined hip hop…go make it better your self, or listen to better artist

TO SUM UP EVERYTHING
no man is big enough to define whats hip hop and whats not…its all what u believe it is…if ice believes it aint hip hop…then its not in his eyes…if soulja boy and kanye believe it is…then it is…in there eyes…but no man is big enough to actually define what is the real definition of hip hop…that goes for all of them and everyone on this site…period

whoever said Ice-T grew up in Beverly Hills is a dumbass. That nigga went to Crenshaw High School. He was born in New Jersey and moved to Cali when his parents died.

Ice T been through it son. chill with the disrespect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8WrXrwBSsc

soulja boy u suc EAT A DICK nigga n i got money i aint hating u jus cant rap all that yoooooooooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu n superman n all them dances nigga shits LAME

#92 boogz..I really don’t have know clue or a define to what hiphop means. All i know is that it growing and that it changing at the same time. But as far as to what it means i really don’t know. Because at this point everybody has there own opinion of what hiphop mean. And with all of there opinion being different then that means that there only has to be one that is correct or all. But if we can’t find that correct define of what hiphop mean then that either means that there isn’t a define yet or there isn’t one at all. In my opinion towards other people comments on what hiphop is could either be wrong or right.

But at this point in time the way hiphop is being treated i would say that there shouldn’t be a define. I think the art form of hiphop has been ruin to the point where you can’t give it a define. People can call it whatever they want they can also have there own define of what hiphop is but will it matches what hiphop is. I actually think that there should be a dictionary filled with define of what hiphop is but then again maybe there shouldn’t i don’t know. But as far as soulja boy go’s i really don’t think he’s hiphop and that just relativity speakin. But then again i could be wrong and find out later on that soulja boy was actually an hiphop artist. But by what im seeing from soulja boy he like a joke to me. He like the new improved Wierd Al Yankovic of 2008.

But then again i hate to judge so my question would be that if soulja boy is hiphop. Then what is lupe’ kanye’ commen jay-z and nas. Would you compare soulja boy to them and if so then ya’ll might as well just say that rick ross’ shawty lo’ plies’ lil boosie’ lil webby’ and hurricane chris’ are hiphop artist as well. But to me there not cuz there rap artist not hiphop artist. Because what they rap about is not a real message being send but hiphop deal with real messages. See crankin them hoe’s and snaping yo fingers and telling girls to shake there ass is not hiphop that rap period.

How’s Kanye to comment? Is there even one song of his that’s not sampled yet?

‘A bunch of wannabe keep it real rappers that ain’t even relevant, recycling samples trying to act like it’s 96 again and all they do is hate on new shit?’

Dude you just described yourself…

co sign #104 juddric’…lol exactly!

ice t should’ve actually took that 1 because he is on a totally diffrent level from soulja boy.but ice t just gotta realize the times have changed,no matter how bad we want hip hop 2 be based on lyrics it’s a business now.so ice was good at what he did and soulja boy got in where he fit in.

p.s- did ice cut the perm because soulja boy mentioned it??

Ice T is so right and he so wrong. Ice T is right that Soulja Boy is garbage. He right that if Soulja Boy keeps makin his trash that hip hop aint gonna last. I don’t care how much good he have in hip hop, you only need a little bit of poison to fuck up your whole body. Ice T is wrong for callin him out the way he did. Especially the eat a dick comment. And look I’m only 18. I rather listen to 50 years old Ice T than Soulj anyday. And it aint about subject matter. Soulja Boiy can talk about a whole lotta shit that aint gang related and still sound good. 17 aint too young for that. That’s why you get an education.

Soulja Boy is hard. number 1 hit for awhile. i know how it is to make slaps and that is a slap. PERIOD. young buck and game is still homo ass niggas. i got too much money to be writin here and u seen my video. money changes everyone my niggas. keep grindin soulja boy and fuck u Ice T. we could make it eastcoast and westcoast if ur tryin to bring out the choppas. its nothin to a boss

I guess nobody has heard of David and Goliath. Everybody loves an underdog.

I don’t particularly like Soulja Boy’s music, but I do believe that time is on his side, in this one. He might get to say a few words at Ice-T’s funeral.

And like Soulja Boy said, if you really think that the music is f##ked up, then do something.

Don’t just hate on young people that are coming up.

“We must learn to live together as brothers, or perish together as fools.” ~ Martin Luther King Jr.

short and simple

if your talking about hip hop then understand this.
hip hop changes and has its vatious phases.the humpty dump yall!! digital underground was hated and that was also a dance
song they are now regarded as legends…unfortunately.

there will always levels of hip hop
the happy go lucky dance shit
and the shit thats suppose to be real and open your mind.

Ice t is a 50+ dude who told a 17 year old to eat a dicks
thats pedophilia….

in short this whole “beef” (notice the fancy quotes) is foolish narrow minded and dumb.

Kanye makes valid points but all he states is not right

1-ice-t was dead wrong for coming at a 17 years old kid.

2-soulja boy is wiggity wack.no other way to say it.

3-this beef is retarded.

“Soulja boy is fresh ass hell and is actually the true meaning of what hip hop is sposed to be. He came from the hood, made his own beats, made up a new saying, new sound and a new dance with one song. He had all of America rapping this summer. If that ain’t Hip Hop then what is? A bunch of wannabe keep it real rappers that ain’t even relevant, recycling samples trying to act like it’s 96 again and all they do is hate on new shit? Niggas always talk about the golden age but for a 13 year old kid, this is the golden age!!! That song was so dope cause everything he said had a hidden meaning… that’s Nas level shit… he just put it over some steel drums which is also some Nas shit if you had the 2nd album cassette with the bonus track “Silent Murder” on it. In closing… new niggas get ya money$$$$$$$$$$ Keep this shit fresh and original…. ain’t no fuckin’ rules to this shit and that’s what real hip hop is to me.”

1. soulja boi jacked beats fo sho

2. his real name is DeAndre Ramone Way FFS

3. soulja boi’s been in this shit fo 1 year but ice fo ages

4. i bet soulja boi didnt grow up in no hood

5. fuck you guy who said all that shit ^^^

6. its on

This shit is like 2 homeless people on side of the street fighting, nobody really gives a fuck but its still interesting to watch, lol. Ice-T was wrong for hate’n out’the’blue like that though.

Ice T u a Got Dam Mess Goin at a kid and u a sell out how u goin to be talkin about killin cops in yo raps but be on a tv show wit da police all i got to say is u have no room to talk. and yea Fuck hip hop it’s dead and im fuckin glad. stop hatin on des rap niggas. these fool produces their own beats and lyrics and has gone fuckin platinum on his own. tha south aint know for rhymin we dont do that shit here this is country rap tunes its a way of life we dance to our muzik. so fuck hip hop let that shit die it’s weak im tired of hearing that commercial new york shit anyway that’s why we dont bump that shit down here. damn record labels in new york are the reason hip hop is dead tha south aint never claimed to be hip hop if u dont like this shit dont listen to it but i see yall fools bumpin this shit when yallz females are gettin crunk wit it

They were both wrong for putting it on blast like was. Ice could have contacted sb privately and been like yo yo shit is wack lil homie instead of saying it in public. Anyway, I don’t really consider this beef, this is just a young nigga and a old nigga who have a difference of opinion in what people want to hear. Time will tell.

LOL @ U know who….

#77 County of kings!!! Point well stated!

back to my point its commercialism thats killin the craft cause no one wants to do what they feel, they all gotta do whats gonna get the paper and the major label deal…

this is retarded first of all people have their own opinions and yes it was wrong for Ice-T to start all of this and stuff but how it taking sides and bashing each other going to solve anything? i personally don’t like rap and i think its been dead; its really nothing but people who rhyme about something stupid like shoes, sex, running from cops, drugs etc, and talk really fast to a beat, pretty much sending a bad message to younger kids who look up to them. I can’t really call that music and i don’t understand why people like it but they do. Anyways it’s just stupid and i don’t understand why any of this started I’ve seen first graders act more mature!
Oh yeah like telling somebody so suck a dick is going to get them anywhere!

why is it that Soujia boy sucks for trying something new?
he doesn’t want to be like everybody else so he’s “killing” it” even though hip-hop is dead! Ice-T acts like hes freaking god of hip-hop when hes not! Obviously soujia boys making money and all over the radio and people are buying his music! DOESN’T SEEM TOO DEAD TO ME!!! I agree his music is stupid but hes making money people are going to like what they want to like. GET THE FUCK OVER IT!!!!

Amen to what breakdown wrote on June 21st, 2008 at 11:59 pm.

I want my $22.00 back from Ice-T for the club show he did in Tampa about 6 years ago. I was only trying to get at this female, and the show was garbage!!! Much respect to Ice-T, as he is a legend in the game.

Soldier Boy is the next Tag Team (Whoomp There It Is), Every sports arena in the Country will be playing it at intermission and if the kid was smart, he got a nice chunk of the distribution/publication/marketing funds.

Money is Money, if you getting it clean, who gives a damn about how you got it? Hip-Hop is a life, and from the drums of Ancient African tribes to COP KILLER to CRANK THAT to the Lupes/Waynes/Kanyes it is ever evolving. I can promise you this, in 30 years my grand kids will look at my kids and say “WHAT THE HELL WAS YA’LL LISTENING TO BACK THEN?”, just like my KIDS say to me now about SPLACK PACK/WHODINI/LA TRIM.

My 2 cents out…

Man all yall who hatin on soulja Boy need to eat a Dick yall lame as shit dat shit is a fuckin viral infection called hate all yall need to be cured of dat shit asap i mean fareal when did Soulja Boy ever say he was the voice of hip hop he didnt so he cant kill hip hop all dese die hard old school/ underground rap fans just mad cause fuckin times change and dats wat happens shit changes and all dat old school shit aint wat people wanna hear its aint nun of dem underground niggas chart toppin and dats why they will remain underground Soulja boy doin wat he know how to do he aint from da old school hip hop scene he from the genration now so in conclusion if u dont like da boy music dont listen but alot of dese niggas makin dese fuck soulja boy comments be in dey room at dey mom house tryin to do the superman in dey mirror LOL