that was my beat he jacked me ….1st niggas

damn

ITS CALLED SAMPLEING PEOPLE

he’s not saying that he stole it from a band. just saying from a program and he got broke off for that shit to.

the usher song is still hot and i no the video is going to be hot to. so fuck that kanye sample almost like all his beats. polow the don is the man so stop hating

loops are used all the time.. so what?

white dude was jus saying that anybody could do it

I understand where he’s coming from. It is kinda a surprise that he used a preset loop, but producers basically take loops from an old song and put bass and drums over it. The only difference that he did not sample a record but took a sample from a program. If it is so easy to make a hit why didn’t any of yall make a hit with the same program? lol….Anyone can remake a song that was already made. Polow has grinded and made thousands of songs where he put a lot more work into than this one. A Producers name is more of what sells the beats from them griding getting known and making hits and making quality records overall than just 1 record that they make. So it is not always fair to us, but to get where he is and marketing himself to get in contact with superstars is the real challenge.

Can someone say lawsuit????

They may be preset loops…but how many of YOU thought of it before Polow? lol

so this means everybody can copy this song since it is a royalty free loop….

freakin funny

wow, pretty interesting to see.

I HAVE GARAGE BAND AND TRUST ME ITS NOT AS EASY AS IT LOOKS…POLOW GOT LUCKY

YEA THERES PRESETS BUT THERES LIKE LITERALLY THOUSANDS OF THEM SO TRY UR BEST TO FIND A COMBINATION THAT GOES TOGETHER LIKE THAT!!!

YOULL BE TRYING FOREVER!!!

lol yea that’s the issue, Polow can make a beat on his own but if, by chance, you come across something that works, why not…u know

CoSign #12 (Novill)

I’m pretty sure PLENTY of people have scaned through those exact same sounds on Garage Band and never thought of blending both of those sounds 2gether. It’s sampling in it’s simplest form and KNOWING what sounds that mesh well w/ each other. That’s what makes Polow da producer he is. It’s not really a big deal, it jus so happens it’s not a vintage record he got the loop from.

I don’t know if ya’ll remember Swizz takin’ a preset from a Roland (keyboard) and making “Down Bottom” w/ it and getting sued. The difference w/ that was he took a SONG PRESET, NOT A LOOP PRESET like Polow did. So kill the LaWSuiT talk.

yea you cant sue Polow for using a Royalty free loop thats what their made for dumbass. This is a little better than sampling at least he used something that was meant to be used to make a beat and not taking somebodys elses music and looping it. And its not that easy. If it was why didnt anybody do it before Polow did it?

if i was polow and i saw this i would be mad as hell… like yo this white boy just made the same beat i did in like 30 seconds on some jacker ass pirate ass shit…yo dat shit is funny as hell b. dat nigga polow weak as hell fa dat one i dont give a fuck what none a yall niggas say….premier got skills wit the scratches, dre dope wit the keyboard, pharrell use live instruments and sing hooks, kanye use dope samples from the 70’s….dis nigga polow be jackin sounds off a some shit called garage band lol

most producers get caught at some point makin a beat based off someone elses work… if that ain’t hip hop nothin is so I can’t see anything to complain about… except the kids stuttering…lmao!

Yeah cosign 2cents and what cats don’t really understand is that a good producer has to have an ear for good music. From the kick to the hi hat, garage band has been around forever and nobody made a hit record from their stock loops so you gotta give Polow his respect for turning a simple loop into a smash record.Thats hip hop, taking something simple and making it hot from clothes to cars to Liquor etc..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os8Vcgos_HI

fort minor does that too!

if its so easy then muthafuckaz would have done it!!!! Everybody that has a mac has those loops!!! You still need an ear to even want to sample something and make it hot! Polo aint no fly by night ass producer…..theres more loops for cats to take in the program! make some hot shit and shop it….if not leave it alone damn! I mean he aint no pete rock but he got some bangas!!!

lmao that kid did that shit in 3 mins and polow probably took too and charged 500,000 for it lmao

Rihanna’s umbrella did the same thing, and swizz beats did this back in the day with the casio keyboards all producers use loops.

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Umbrella just had the DRUMS from a preset (4get which program/keyboard)and built around it. Airthang else was orginal.

I don’t think some of yall get this situation. I’m beat maker. And what Pollow did was take an already basic synthasized loop, and throw some drums, high hats, and snares on it. Apple WILL be giving that dude a call. Kanye at least manipulates the sample he uses, and you pay for that ish (Kanye’s getting sued for The Good Life right now). But what Pollow did was take a generic loop that was made by the software. Folks have been getting caught doing that recently as music, urban in general, gets more simple.

Damn, I’m kinda disheartened! I was lookin at Polow like producer of the year right along with Toomp! I mean he ain’t do nothing wrong and it is still a dope beat but, It’s basically like seeing a magic trick revealed. I used to use Music Generator and they got plenty of royalty free loops. The majority of those programs do. I’m just disappointed cuz I thought he was dumb creative. I ain’t gonna take no credit away from him but damn……….

^^^ so #25 is soulja boy gonna get a call from FL STUDIO cuz he made that beat himself from FL STUDIO?

but its a good beat ii kne it sound a lil simplistic so ii aint mad . . USHER SHOULD BE MAD! LOL dude prolly paid 400 thou for dis beat && he couldda made dat beat if he wouldda jus copped ilife for 8o bucks LMFAOOOO-SMH

“dis is like buyin a lambo nd findin out its mostly mad of honda parts” LOLOLOLOLOLOL

>> btw money in the vid had the oldest mac in the game

Exactly….. I mean Urban folk need to wake the fuck up, mainly music/entertainment..There is so much technology not even on the music side that would blow your fuckin minds…

Smart Black Man wrote on April 4th, 2008 at 10:20 am

I don’t think some of yall get this situation. I’m beat maker. And what Pollow did was take an already basic synthasized loop, and throw some drums, high hats, and snares on it. Apple WILL be giving that dude a call. Kanye at least manipulates the sample he uses, and you pay for that ish (Kanye’s getting sued for The Good Life right now). But what Pollow did was take a generic loop that was made by the software. Folks have been getting caught doing that recently as music, urban in general, gets more simple.

wat a lazy fuck..i dont like polow n e way sayin he’s the King oF All White Girls wat kinda accomplishment is that braggin on f-in pink toes get off the gas!

@ #27, Soulja Boy doesn’t own his music; that dude bought ALL his royalties. He used the demo version of Fruity Loops 4, and made that beat. That’s free stuff. All the sounds on his tracks are generic, and aren’t even owned by ImageLine (maker of FL Studio).

Pollow will be cool for now, though. The song just won’t make the album, or something. It’ll be a bonus track. Or they’ll pay off Apple.

On another note, like chrisFromthaDtothaPHX said, there’s way better programs out there than FL Studio 7 and Garage Band (which both are GARBAGE). Reason is the ish right now. and Pro Tools. That’s what Kanye, Dr. Dre, Timbo, Cool & Dre use. I use Sonar 7 x64. That’s what The Neptunes, Swiz Beats, and Just Blaze and a few others use. Or you could go the route like The Rza or Kanye and R. Kelly, and get a MPC 2500 or a MPD 36. Just to school you young’ns.

“I don’t think some of yall get this situation. I’m beat maker. And what Pollow did was take an already basic synthasized loop, and throw some drums, high hats, and snares on it. Apple WILL be giving that dude a call. Kanye at least manipulates the sample he uses, and you pay for that ish (Kanye’s getting sued for The Good Life right now). But what Pollow did was take a generic loop that was made by the software. Folks have been getting caught doing that recently as music, urban in general, gets more simple.”

NOPE ^

IF THE SAMPLE IS MADE BY ONE OF THE PROGRAMMERS OF GARAGE BAND,THEN POLOW DA DON HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT,BECAUSE(AND THIS IS HOW I KNOW YOU’RE A BEGINNER AT BEAT MAKING)ONCE YOU PURCHASE THE PROGRAM,YOU’RE PURCHASING THE RIGHT TO USE THE SAID PROGRAM(IN THIS CASE,GARAGE BAND)AND EVERY SOUND AND OR MIDI DATA CREATED BY THE M-A-K-E-R-S OF GARAGE BAND,AND INCLUDED IN GARAGE BAND.

THE ONE AND O-N-L-Y WAY POLOW C-O-U-L-D BE IN TROUBLE,IS IF THE LOOPS WERE CREATED BY A PERSON N-O-T INVOLVED WITH GARAGE BAND(A REGULAR BEAT MAKER),AND LEASED TO THE CODERS/PROGRAMMERS OF GARAGE BAND FOR USE AS A STOCK SOUND,WITH U-S-E-R L-I-M-I-T-A-T-I-O-N-S.THEN,AND ONLY THEN,WILL POLOW HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE COURT SYSTEM.

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“^^^ so #25 is soulja boy gonna get a call from FL STUDIO cuz he made that beat himself from FL STUDIO?”

NO,BECAUSE THE SOUNDS HE USED WERE CREATED BY GOL(THE CREATOR AND MAIN PROGRAMMER OF FL STUDIO)AND HIS TEAM,NOT BY ANOTHER BEAT MAKER.

^^ LOL CALM DOWN U FUCCIN H-O-M-O

“Smart Black Man
Smart Black Man wrote on April 4th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

@ #27, Soulja Boy doesn’t own his music; that dude bought ALL his royalties. He used the demo version of Fruity Loops 4, and made that beat. That’s free stuff. All the sounds on his tracks are generic, and aren’t even owned by ImageLine (maker of FL Studio).

Pollow will be cool for now, though. The song just won’t make the album, or something. It’ll be a bonus track. Or they’ll pay off Apple.

On another note, like chrisFromthaDtothaPHX said, there’s way better programs out there than FL Studio 7 and Garage Band (which both are GARBAGE). Reason is the ish right now. and Pro Tools. That’s what Kanye, Dr. Dre, Timbo, Cool & Dre use. I use Sonar 7 x64. That’s what The Neptunes, Swiz Beats, and Just Blaze and a few others use. Or you could go the route like The Rza or Kanye and R. Kelly, and get a MPC 2500 or a MPD 36. Just to school you young’ns.
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^LOL,I WON’T EVEN BOTHER TYPING A PARAGRAPH TO CORRECT THIS NONSENSE,ALL I’LL SAY IS:

1)ONLY AN ABSOLUTE CLOWN WILL THINK SOFTWARE IS WHAT MAKES THE PRODUCER.

2)FL STUDIO IS BY FAR THE MOST ADVANCED MIDI SEQUENCER OUT IN THE MARKET.

3)DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ IN SCRATCH MAGAZINE.

“^^ LOL CALM DOWN U FUCCIN H-O-M-O”

^ LMAO LOOK AT THIS ASS WIPE POSTING UNDER A DIFFERENT NAME,DON’T MAKE ME EXPOSE YOU DICK BREATH

even the drums for umbrella is a garage band loop

haha at “smart black man”

loops in programs can be used without polow gettin a call from apple.

so if i just made a beat, of kicks and claps from garage band, they’d give me a call? no.

a preset loop, and preset kicks/claps are the same thing.

if you make something of it, it’s your sound. they gave it to you in the first place when you bought the product

lemma laugh at smart black man again.

so if i bought a box of crayola crayons..

and drew a picture, and sold the picture…

crayola would give me a call, cuz i used their crayons to create it?

hahahah yaaaawn

Hahahaaaa… If yall really had it, you would see that all 3 loops have the same name… Euro hero synth 1, 2 and 3… Oh yeah… That’s skills…

I just have a problem because when producers flip a sample (and I work with a producer who does pretty frequently), they have to give up a certain percentage of they’re publishing to the original owners of the sample (obviously). Polow is “flipping a sample,” so to speak, but he doesn’t have to give up any front end, back end, or any publishing because all those garageband loops are fair use. He may have the ears to come up with the beat concept - but it’s pretty cheap to do so using apple preset loops. It may not be legally “wrong,” but in my mind it’s ethically wrong. The only fallback for Polow would be one of discredit on the streets or within the industry. I can’t even count how many times I’ve heard a garageband or reason factory loop used in commercials, soundtracks, and songs. In my mind, I already think of the “writer” as uninspired, unoriginal, and lacking creativity. There is a certain style, grace, and elegance when a producer pays homage to an old school artist and flips their song. In doing so, the new school is recognizing the old school, and paying respect as well as royalties. The listeners, the streets, and the industry all recognize that act, and respect the producer for innovating something old.

Polow just grabbed a loop and called it his own. Whack.

You will not find him in any industry magazine thanking garageband for providing inpsirato.

Yo, Its me….

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#31!!! for your info…protools is nice..once you learn all the how tos, but reasons? hot sounds boo boo program. I have fl 8 and with my own after market programs runnin in it, my tweaks, and knowledge of the program it shits on cubase, garage band, reasons, or whatever you got to throw at me. I also have two akai mpcs in there too.

and yo real talk, polow got 6 figures for that track…we downloaded the loops today and made a harder beat..I WANT A CHECK THAT SIZE haha. in my eyes dude lost credibility as a leading producer in the game.

those loops are royality free…. either way that doesnt take away from his talent bottomline

No hate just facts

1) NEVER shit on Fl Studio. That program is DDDDDOPE!!! hint: you have to use your own sounds and vsts though…

2) What yall aren’t seeing is that. It is not like he put these loops together creatively. They were MADE TO GO TOGETHER by someone else! Euro hero synth 1, 2, and 3 or whatever. Those loops are right by each other in the browser. Polow sucks for this. It is not legally wrong, but it is WEAK! He lost cred for this PERIOD…

3) This is NOT the same as sampling. Kanye takes TIME to craft beats and dig for and chop samples. Obviously Polow does not. Did he make six figs for that shit? YES. Am I happy for him? YES. Am I mad at him? NO. He ain’t doing shit that swiss did not already do (which makes it all the more weak in my opinion).

4) And for those of you saying, “yall just mad cause ya’ll didn’t find those sounds and use em.” Shut yo dumb ass up… Nobody uses those presets as they are becuase that is well known to be some weak shit for a talented producer to do…

You don’t like what I am saying, them shove it up your ass…

There isn’t a debate here.

The loops in Garage Band are royalty free. What Polow did is absolutely correct. He won’t pay for the sample.

By buying the Apple PC or MAC you get Garage Band + Presets / Samples. That makes you the owner of the preset. You paid for it. Therefore, for Polow, he used something he bought and made a good beat out of it. Don’t hate the player, hate the fact that some of you didn’t think of it sooner or didn’t release a track with the same sample.

It’s like Pharrell from The Neptunes. All his sounds are samples from his Korg(if i stand correct) keyboard. Same rules apply.

Peace!!! Btw. I’m a music producer so I know.

If you didn’t know. All samples bought from FL studio (for example) are yours!!! Do what you like (And you won’t pay for sample clearance).

yo does anyone know what those loops are called , just interrested, i mess with garage band and polow the don is not the only producer that uses loops of of garage band, he is the only one that got exposed to the public, trust me there are so many lloops on garageband that you wouldnt know who used what, he just happend to get caught