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April 18, 2008

Stop The Madness: 5-10 Seconds Gets A Man Years In Jail

The state’s(Maryland) highest court ruled yesterday that a man can be charged with rape if he ignores a woman’s calls to stop - even if she had previously consented to sex.

“[So] are you going to let me hit it?” he said, according to police. “I don’t want to rape you.”

The victim testified in Montgomery County court that she agreed to sex “as long as he stops when I tell him to.” As he(Baby) began, she told him to stop because he was hurting her, but he kept going for five or 10 seconds, she said.

Baby denied any wrongdoing but was convicted of first-degree rape and other crimes and sentenced to 15 years in prison, with all but five suspended.

Full Story: Baltimore Sun

This kid got charged with first degree rape over 5-10 seconds of sex after she said to stop. Even though she consented to initiate sex and he did comply after a very short delay, the man faces years in jail. So basically any bitter female can scream rape on any men and it would be very hard to prove he didn’t do it. She can say he kept going for 2 seconds and he could face 15 years in jail. Do men have to start taping there love sessions to avoid accusations like this? Do ladies have to sign a release contract before things get poppin?

What are your thoughts?

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38 Comments so far

1.
Ahijah wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:42 am

Damn thats fucked up that she agreed to have sex then told me to stop during sex and he carried of for 10 seconds longer. Thats fucked up she’s basically ruined his life with him carrying on 10 seconds longer.

Ghostface Killah - “Never trust females with good looks you just confirmed that.”

Why kind of justice is that ? the US justice system is a joke

2.
RealtalkTDOT wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:45 am

….LMAOOOO fucked up forreal

3.
C-Major wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:50 am

Damn I think it is coming to the point where you have to get a consent form signed. The game is so F’ed up

4.
Last week I beat my bitch up in the streets for lying to me wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:58 am

That’s fucked up, but we’ll see how it holds up on appeal.

Word to Kool G Rap.

5.
Fall Out Boy Roy wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:59 am

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6.
Last week I beat my bitch up in the streets for lying to meK wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 3:04 am

Wait that was on appeal, in the supreme court too. What the fuck! That ain’t right. A girl has the right to take consent away after you put you dick in - but damn sure ain’t rape if you don’t pull out in less that 10 seconds.

7.
DJNY
DJNY wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 3:19 am

Yo Nigel.. I definitely feel where your coming from bro.. It’s crazy how females can do whatever it takes to scream rape. Be careful out there men… Shit is dangerous out there.

8.
Eli Porter wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 3:42 am

Dude’s Name is BABY.
Sounds a lil suspect to me.
Seein as we ain’t heard bout dude since wayne got hot.

9.
whoa wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 5:06 am

all this shit come down to niggas just bein too fuckin thirsty b…if the bitch say take yo dick out, take yo dick out….hopefully u got other bitches u can call and fuck that wont tell u to take yo dick out when u tryin to get yo rocks off. but truth be told, a bitch can say that u raped her even if she never told u to stop, a bitch can say u raped her if u aint even fuck. my cousin got hit wit a rape charge last year, but the nigga didnt even fuck. she said the nigga raped her throat…wtf lol shit got thrown outta court but shit is crazy b….u cant really prevent dat shit ye dig. u just gotta make sure that the bitches u fuckin is really feelin u, down bitches, if u throw the gimmick out there for a bitch and she let u fuck its always a chance she gonna pull some bullshit. and i bet this nigga had the court appointed…no way a good lawyer woulda let this shit fly. 10 seconds…im bout to listen to pac shes so scandalous shes so scaaaaannnndaloooouuuussss

10.
ukairoun wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 5:11 am

fuck bitches, get money.

11.
uknowme wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 6:36 am

“All seven judges agreed that a woman has the right to revoke consent, but reached that conclusion in different ways. Yesterday’s ruling returns the 2004 rape case of Maouloud Baby to Montgomery County for a new trial.”

The case is going to a new trial - it has YET to be decided that he is going to go to jail for the same length of time (whether longer or shorter). Hold judgment until then…

12.
Isys
Isys wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 7:30 am

If she wanted to “revoke consent”, then that is fine, whatever….but, I think the man should be required to stop within a reasonable amount of time, 5-10 seconds is ridiculous, now if he kept going for even a couple of minutes then I would say he was in the wrong. I don’t think it should be called rape though, cause hell they in mid booty action, technically the female is an indian giver! They should call it failure to stop at a verbal stop sign or something, give that nigga a fine and send him about his business. What would sending him to jail really teach this young man?

13.
WHITE BREAD........CHICAGO wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 7:32 am

LMAO 10 seconds more is that it LMAO should that even be called rape LMAO. shit if i new that i was going to be in jail for that long shit. i would of said ‘fuck that’ put my dick back in dat pussy and pull my porn star moves on that bitch fuck the shit out of her. and then i would of nutted on her face for getting me in trouble man.

14.
Timz wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 7:43 am

At least it will stop dudes from sleepin wit various and numerous girls. It is a good thing.

15.
20% wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 8:19 am

women cant be doing fucked up shit like that
i had a girl try that with me in the middle of
having sex, i did stop though, yall gotta
stop messing with those prudes and get with
real freaky cool girls. By the way r these white people?

16.
GREYGOOSE SAVAGE wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 8:30 am

BITCHES AINT SHIT !!!!!!!

17.
BRIXTON N!99A wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 8:37 am

^^^ @ Timz.12.
Narh it will only teach niggaz 2 RAP it up b4 dey SMASH. LOOOL.
This guy wudn’t be goin prison had he fucked her wid a condom. NO EVIDENCE(SEMEN) NO CASE!!!

2 ALL MY BROTHERS OUT THERE ALWAYZ REMEMBER 2 CHECK UR WALLET 4 LATEX B4 U HIT DA CLUB. BITCHES are GETTIN RUTHLESS.. Serius Tings!!

CONDOMS shall set u FREE!!!!……

18.
wreck415 wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 8:41 am

WE GOTTA DO A RAY J EYTIME WE FUCK NOW CUZ THESE ONEY HUNGRY HOES OUT DER

19.
Flyy wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 9:17 am

HEY GUYS I HAVE BEEN READING THE CASE FILE ON THIS TRIAL! And I can give a little more insight on exactly what happened and why this guy was convicted. This article by my boy realtalk is a little misleading.

Baby did not get convicted only because of the 5-10 second rule. Baby did not actually get it in anyway. They did not have sex at all. He tried to put it in and she said it hurt. By his testimony he stated she never said “STOP” that she just got up and said “it wont go in”. Her testimony was that he never got it in and after she said “STOP” he tried to put it in for about 5-10 more seconds then gave up. Which makes this whole 5-10 second assertion even worse because they were not actually having sex.
My opinion on why he was convicted was because of what preseded the sexual encounter. Her testimony throughout trial was that Baby and his friend (who actually did hit it) pretty much imprisioned her in her car (she agreed to give them both a ride to a party; Baby and his friend was this chick’s friend’s brother’s friends). She claims (which seems like bulls*it to me but the jury bought it) that after arriving to the party Baby and his friend decided to not go to the party. And the girl assumed they wanted to be dropped back off at Mcdonalds (where they were orginally).

So according to her when they got back to Mcdonald’s her friend (the other chick) left and now the two boys were in the back seat with her still in the car. She said they CONVINCED her to come into the back seat between them so that they can “TALk”. She does this then immediately the two start grabbing and touching her asking if she would go down on them. She supposedly refused. Then Baby left the car then a few minutes later his boy comes out and says he just hit that. Baby then gets back in the backseat and ask her “are u gon let me hit that?” She states she only agreed because prior the two boys said that she cannot go ANYWHERE until they are DONE. So supposedly wanted to go home she agreed to let the boys do what they wanted to do. This is where I think she won over on the jury causing Baby to be convicted for rape. Like I said my opinion is he was charged not b/c of the 5-10 seconds extra that he tried to put it in. But because the girl felt imprisioned and only agreed to have sex to be allowed to leave.
Now again I still do not see how the hell a jury ever convicted this guy because there were so many questions and problems within her statement.
This girl actually gave Baby her PHONE NUMBER after this encounter happened when he asked her for it. Crazy man!

Looking at the events of this whole trial I really think due to the questionable statements made by the girl and the entire incident. Baby probably at some point will be let off. But like I said from reading the entire case the media seems to be focusing on the 5-10 seconds when I think that had very little to do with why Baby was convicted.

20.
601 now n 817 wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 9:22 am

that shit not funny at all man. this dude might to go to prison because she couldn’t hand a couple more strokes. when she agred to it in the first place. females got too much power if you get locked up for somethin small like this

21.
Ezee-t wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 9:27 am

I think that the jury believes that she fucked these 2 guys just so they could let her go. Reading Flyy’s post cleared a few things up for me. I dunno man.

22.
Flyy wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 9:53 am

Hey Ezee thats my point!
If you look at Baby’s friend who accordng to all counts was allowed to have sex with her. She never said stop. But he pleaded to second-degree rape! I think the attorney in his case believed that with the girl’s account of what caused her to have sex with him that she was imprisioned; he would’ve easily been convicted of rape.
That’s again why I think that Baby’s conviction had othing to do with the 5-10 second rule. Because his friend is serving jailtime too when there was no 5-10 second rule.

I think the media picked up and ran with this 5-10 second rule story because the jury while deliberatiing did ask the judge a question if a female agrees to sex then changes her mind and the guy continues. At what point is it rape? The trial court answered after investigating cases pertaining to the question. By saying any woman who agrees to sex then changes her mind mid-course is not considered rape.
The jury once again posed the same question but this time the judge gave a totally different answer. Saying this is a question the jury has to decide.
So then the jury comes back with a conviction of rape. So now the media is only concentrating on the jury’s question and not the actual events of the whole trial. Personally I do not know why the jury asked the damn question im the first place. Because the defendant and the girl did not have sex anyway. (But sometimes jurys in many cases I’ve seen; get into an argument with each other that may have very little to do with the case. even start bets with each other, then ask the judge to settle the argument. LOL!)
Which I think is what happened in this case. The jury posed a question that had very little to do with the trial, then they asked the question again and the judge changed his answer.
NOW Baby’s attorney is trying to get the case completely thrown out (he has already suceeded in getting it overturned in the appeals court) by the claim that the judge changed his answer and shouldn’t have. Therefore the juror were given incorrect instructions leading to his client not getting a fair trial.
Now as this case is going to higher courts the main argument (and again this is why the media is only talking about this). Was the judge correct in his first answer?

Like I said though this whole debate about the jury’s question to the judge had very little to do with the actual case and why Baby was convicted….

23.
20% wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 9:59 am

dis acknowledge this whole thing, its crazy white people shit. Yall see how they tried to get kobe right…

24.
LOGIC wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 10:43 am

we gotta do the ray-j for now on yal ! so i hope females understanf when we talking about ” SEXY CAN I ? LET ME GET THE CAMERA !!! HAHAHAHAHAHA FOR REAL TO MANY BROTHERS GETTING LOCKED FOR BULLSHIT !

25.
Timz wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 11:46 am

@ #15

Well that is very stupid. Its crazy how some guyz think.

26.
DJ LEX wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

bottom line the media sensationlized the trial by headlining the article “…10-15 secs…”

They know it will grab readers attention to read the story….it got al of us to read rhe story.

If the article read “two men convicted of rape after questionably gangbanging a girl in the back seat of car” who would give a rat’ ass….lol.

I’m just happy somebody read the real source and published the real story for the lost ones on this blog that never read a real paper.

27.
gd wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

oh hell no
thats y rape cases turn into murder case
if that bitch dial those 3 digits… its a wrap for her for playing stuoid game lk that

28.
WHATisTHIS wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

Here is the problem it opens the whole wided issues where the law can be abused. What ever happen to Context. Now let me say this first I think a women has all rights to say no after the fact. That being said ok lets say you take a girl out on a date it goes terrible and she wants to leave but you decide that you want to finish your dinner but she wants to go now so you finishing eatting you drop her off after can she say you kidnapped her can claim fasle imprisonment??? I could see it happening…

29.
Mustafa wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

Good ol US justice system. Always manages to out do itself, doesn’t it? I’ll tell you what, cats better start thinking ahead of themselves. It’s only gonna get worse. And shame on this girl. Don’t ask what is the world coming to. It’s already here. And it aint pretty.

MZ

30.
PHENOMENON wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE F**KED UP PART OF ALL THIS IS?

OUR TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR THAT 15 YEAR BID!!

WE NEED A “CONSENT CONTRACT FORM”!!

EVEN IF I HAVE TO MAKE ONE MYSELF!! BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE THE TOOLS ON MY COMPUTER TO DO SO.

THIS SH*T HAS BEEN TAKEN TOO FAR! IT’S NOT FAIR TO MEN!!

HOW THE F**K IS A MAN SUPPOSED TO JUST STOP!!

WE CAN’T JUST STOP LIKE WOMEN!!!

GIVE A NI**A A SECOND!!!! SHIT!!

31.
SmokinAces wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

This is really some fucked up conduct on her part. The dude is gonna get off on this case though at the end of the day and if he don’t get off he’ll appeal and win. The evidence is not based on any actual fact. Hell, there is nothing to gain facts from because she admitted she let one dude smash and the other boy didn’t even get it.

32.
Realtalk wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

Man I agree with whoa. Niggas that don’t don’t even hit catch cases over a lie some chick told. So, if she say stop, just stop right then, no time for games and shit.. If she’s only a jump off anyway, just find another one. If she’s like your main woman or whatever, then you need to go and find another one of those, too…..that don’t play games.

33.
Ladey wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

Then stop having sex randomly then!

34.
we stone wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

fuck that bitch

35.
$$$$$$$$tack$$$$$$$$$ wrote on April 18th, 2008 at 6:07 pm

I AINT FUCKIN NO MO… SHIT I AIN’T DOIN TIME BCUZ A BITCH WANTS DRAMA… DIS SHIT TAUGHT ME A LESSON DAT I AIN’T GONNA FORGET

36.
... wrote on April 19th, 2008 at 2:46 am

Messing around in general is what puts you into these types of situations. More often than not, a person involved in a committed relationship does not face these bullshit allegations. Hopping from chick to chick on a nightly basis does. It is what it is.

37.
illmanic wrote on April 19th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

“BITCHES AINT SHIT BUT HOES AND TRICKS”

38.
Cide wrote on April 20th, 2008 at 6:12 pm

wtf?! If you’re in the middle of a nut, you can’t stop in 5 to 10 seconds! It’s against the law of physics!

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