talib in his reply to Jeff in his words made him look ignorant..”the being the biggest drugdealer dont deserve to die” that’s being hypocrit!..a drug dealer supplies death to the people he sells to kill, killing families and such..so to me its Karma..thats just my point of view..karma comes around..and sean bell i believe was caught with drugs he sold to people that we’re practically dying from this drug..KARMA
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Cheahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh wrote on April 26th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
smh at this coon nas tryin to publicity stunt again
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Emissary wrote on April 26th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
POSTER’S OF REALTALKNY.NET DON’T YOU FOR ONE SECOND NOT BElIEVE THAT THE POLICE ARE NOT ONLINE NUMBER TWO IS A COP.(just look at his post)
KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN!
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.................. wrote on April 26th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
First of all, something about Terrence and Rocsi seemed very fake in this episode (not shown in the posted video, but all of the 106 episode talking about this). Rocsi was on the verge of tears more then once and Terrence was wildin out the whole time. I just don’t believe the passion that they were putting out. It was to much. Like they was trying to hard to be pissed off.
Anyway, as far as the Sean Bell thing goes, this shit is ridiculous. First of all, they shot at a moving vehicle which police aren’t allowed to do because shooting at a moving vehicle and having a dead driver behind the wheel of a moving vehicle is more dangerous then an alive driver trying to escape. Secondly, after every 3 shots the cops are suppose to stop and assess the situation. Obviously that didn’t take place here or else 50 shots wouldn’t have popped off and one of the cops wouldn’t have stopped and reloaded. Breaking those rules alone should indicate to people that this was a fuck up by the cops and the cops should get punished for it. And yet, the cops get off with nothing. Those white girls that were videoed beating the shit out of that other white girl are getting in more trouble then these cops popping off 50 shots. Michael Vick is getting in more trouble over some damn dogs then these cops are for killing an innocent man. TI gets in more trouble for copping guns then these cops are getting for actually using them on innocent victims. Shit is so fucked up in this world and legal system its crazy.
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LOGIC wrote on April 26th, 2008 at 11:01 pm
Wow # 2 has to be a cop ! HE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO BLOG ANYMORE ! Like Talib said they tried to spin things to make sean bell not seem human . the man had a family and was getting married . if sean bell was a white man in midtown the cops would have been hungout to dry . and i still would think it was a shame . 50 shots would have killed a elephant or a rhino ??? what do you tink it would do to a Man ??? innocent people are beaten , killed , and false arrested everyday that is a FACT . Its not always on the news or high profile . sometimes its one shot not 50 . We have to do something about this ! and i dont want to hear march !
@ 5…If Terrence and Rocsi was fakin they need to quit they jobs and move to Hollywood cause I definitely felt that they was moved by the situation. Terrence maybe was putting up some sort of an acting gig but I think Rocsi was really about to cry.
I gotta say big ups to Mos Def who also called in at the end of the show. Mos Def is the ONLY rapper/entertainer that be on stories like this LONG BEFORE AND LONG AFTER these stories hit mainstream media. Im sick of these lame ass motherfuckers that wanna say they down with the movement when shit pop off but a week later aint doing SHIT!! I’m also sick of people who hate on Oprah cause “all she cares about it old white women”…When everybody wanna suck 50 cent and Jim Jones dick for saying “Fuck Alicia Keys” because she HAD A FUCKING OPINION about the government!! Does that really make sense??
We got to realize that yea the police is killing us…But DAMNIT we killing ourselves! If we dont respect ourselves why the fuck would anybody else. You know why they still treat us like its still 1963…Because we haven’t done anything since those times. We have actually gone backwards in what’s been accomplished. Black people today have more opportunities to go to school without legalized segregation and fear of being lynched just for “reckless eyeballing” but instead of bettering themselves they drop out to sell drugs on the corner.
Those cops at the VERY LEAST needed to get fired. Appropriate action would be have been for them to get some jail time for something: excess force, manslaughter, attempted murder, SOMETHING…
NO ONE should be surprised by this verdict..Mychal Bell from the Jena 6 case is STILL sittin in jail albeit for violating his previous probation (BUT HE AINT KILL NOBODY), Michael Vick gets 2 years for dog fighting, Wesley gets 3 for trying to dip out on Uncle Sam, Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan gets 2 hours for drunk driving… But taking a life deserves 2 years worth of paid leave.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
My heart and prayers go out to the Sean Bell family. R.I.P.
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truth wrote on April 26th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
This generation is just full observers ..people who watch from a distance and think one black man’s problem isn’t theres, mostly because most of this generation have really personaly experienced first hand racism. They’ve seen it on tv and they hear about it by chris rock and dave chappele etc, but they’ve neva really experienced it first hand..if this happened in in the early or mid 90’s, you could expect another riot. Anyways violence won’t solve anything but man somethin needs to be about it but it just seems like people are not really personally offended by this like they should be. anyways im offended by the verdict but im not in ny..wut can you do?
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Emissary wrote on April 26th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
NUMBER 3 STOP WILLIE LYNCHING!!!
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:04 am
@ #2 (Youth_Spoken) Karma, legal processes and fairness aren’t the same! Plus there is a demand for those drugs (good or bad) is there a demand for being assasinated and forgetten?
Realtalk though I respect the posters I see here more now… y’all know hip hop is more than music and seem to really care about whats goin on in society!
big ups esp. to emissary and elipses a.k.a. ….
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hotbox wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:14 am
this verdict was a complete fuck up. now what as a group of black people going to do about it.it will be real interesting what happens in nyc in the next couple of months.burn that mutha fucker down fuck it that is how those crackers felt.
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Youth_Spoken wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:35 am
fuck to post 4 and 6, im just saying from other people’s perspective and yea maybe i did say things w/o rational thinking but you got to understand some of the things that he did before this tragic event could have been karma…if you call me a “cop” then obama himself must be the sheriff then..
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Pounce wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:47 am
A drug dealer is providing addicts with options not death. They decide to do drugs. If the economy was better the drug addicts percentage would drop.
Anyway funny how these niggas on here tryin to educate people but they only on here because of the situation with Sean Bell. Niggas gotta be more proactive and less reactive. We wait for somethin to happen instead of tellin young black people to learn the law from the beginning.
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dumbasses wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 1:29 am
these ppl are idiots… they only talk about solutions that everyone already knows about. once again they dont get around to the center of all the hate crimes against blacks/niggers.
IN ORDER FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO STOP BEING DISCRIMINATED. THEY HAVE TO TEACH THEIR OWN TO ACT RIGHT. ADDRESS THE REAL SOLUTION WHICH IS ADDRESSING PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR OWN RACE. BLACK PPL ARE THE #1 CAUSE OF CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY. THERES YOUR FUCKIN PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.
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lil nappy wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 1:33 am
post #2 are you fucking joking? whats the difference between drug dealers selling narcotics and the government selling their bullshit drugs like oxycotton and xanax when we all know marijuana is the real medicine
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 1:37 am
Who you refferin to Pounce, posters or the comments by the artist?
Either way I don’t agree jus lookin for clarity… IMO Sh!ts been said again and again! People jus choose to not hear whats good for whats popular like money, clothes, jewels and hoes along with all the dumb sh!t monkeys (agents)like hov, 50 and other POP stars and wanna be POP stars be spittin!
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 2:37 am
again people stop fallin for the okie doke… f the presidential election in the govt sh!t raises! if all municipalities cities have uniform laws then states have uniform laws and the fed is forced to adopt laws in line with the states… The president can’t force the states to do anything!
Vote LOCALLY!!! You know the years in between the presidential election when your state and federal senate and legislation candidates are selected!
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Itallion Stallion wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 3:44 am
This whole idea that the main goal of the police department is to kill black people and opress the poor is total bulishit; yes there are cops that are assholes and others that may not be cut out for that type of pressure but lets not forget the dangerous high crime neighborhoods that these cops are patroling and lets not forget how heartless those that commit crimes in these neighbirhoods are. The problem with talib Kweli and other rap artists is that they consider it opression for cops to go hard after people selling drugs because they have decided that drug dealers are not that bad and just trying to make a living. Clearly the cops who shot 50 times did not handle the situation well and folded to pressure but lets not forget that they had a vehicle attempting to run them down in the street and they were in a dangerous area on a drug investigation with reason to believe one or more had weapons. It is a tragedy and I’m not saying the cops were right here but this general idea that cops all just want to kill and opress black people for no reason is ridiculous; cops may become hardened from working in areas were they constantly see horrible heinous crimes committed on innocent people and it just so happens that proportionately a high number of people in these areas commiting these crimes are black; but to say that going hard to crack down on crime in bad neighborhoods is an attempt to kill blacks and keep them down is just a dumb general statement to make people feel innocent about committing crimes like selling drugs and making the cops look like criminals. I am sure for every Sean Bell story there is a cop with a family who was gunned down in cold blood with numerous shots just for doing his job. And I don’t think Nas or talib would appreciate someone saying that black people in general just want to kill cops whenever they can based on these incidents
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Too Honest wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 4:03 am
Heres the thing that is going to bother me…
In a few days, people are going to go back to running away from the cops but shooting at each other…
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 4:54 am
Thats bothered me for years! nobody wants to open there eyes though. they talk all this we don’t own boats and we don’t own that so we can’t be the root… well we don’t own record labels either (not like that) meaning theres a reason music morphed from the f the police talk around the riots to get money and cook up!
and as long as we too busy tryin to party we will never see whats up cause the powers that be will gladly keep you sedated… either way they will be paid and get paid!
its hard for me to double MY wealth in a yr…HOW CAN THE TOP 3 RICHEST MEN IN WORLD (atleast) do it doubling roughly 30 BILLION to 60 BILLION dollars!
f a half billi (or a whole billi), especially when you’re an agent siphoning money from the hood Anti robin hoods…
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 5:40 am
This whole idea that the main goal of the police department is to kill black people and opress the poor is total bulishit; NO ITS NOT, I BELIEVE YOUR POST WAS THOUGH.
yes there are cops that are assholes and others that may not be cut out for that type of pressure but lets not forget the dangerous high crime neighborhoods that these cops (VOLUNTARILY) are patroling and lets not forget how heartless those that commit crimes in these neighbirhoods are. (DUE TO THE LACK OF JOBS PROVIDED TO DARKER PEOPLE OR MINORITIES AS A DIRECT RESULT OF SLAVERY AND THE JIM CROW SOUTH)
The problem with talib Kweli and other rap artists is that they consider it opression for cops to go hard after people (WHO IN THIS CASE WERE WEAPONLESS AND NOT SELLING DRUGS side note do you know gun laws rules?) selling drugs because they have decided that drug dealers are not that bad and just trying to make a living. Clearly the cops who shot 50 times did not handle the situation well and folded to pressure (THEY VOLUNTARILY OPTED FOR) but lets not forget that they had a vehicle attempting to run them down in the street (NOW THIS IS WHERE I’M LOST WERE THEY FLEEING GUN SHOTS? HOW MANY COPS WERE REALLY THERE? ONE THING I DO BELIEVE IS THEY WERE UNMARKED AND DIDN’T ID THEMSELVES) and they were in a dangerous area on a drug investigation with reason to believe (BUT DIDN’t VERIFY, COPS SHOULDN’T SHOOT WITHOUT BEING SHOT AT!) one or more had weapons. It is a tragedy and I’m not saying the cops were right here (IDK) but this general idea that cops all just want to kill and opress black people for no reason is ridiculous; (NO ITS NOT AND YOU WOULDN’T KNOW YOU’RE TOO BUSY BEING ITALIAN)cops may become hardened from working in (NOT LIVING IN THOUGH…WOULDN’T IT BE BETTER IF INSTEAD OF PRECINTS AND SUBSTATIONS SOME POLICE ACTUALLY LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY!) areas were they constantly see horrible heinous crimes committed on innocent people (EQUALLY BY THE COPS AS CIVILIANS SEEMINGLY) and it just so happens that proportionately a high number of people in these areas commiting these crimes are black; (AGAIN … WHY IS THAT?) but to say that going hard to crack down on crime in bad neighborhoods is an attempt to kill blacks and keep them down is just a dumb general statement to make people feel innocent about committing crimes like selling drugs and making the cops look like criminals. I am sure for every Sean Bell story there is a cop with a family who was gunned down in cold blood with numerous shots just for doing his job (A JOB THAT IS DANGEROUS AND THEY VOLUNTEERED FOR). And I don’t think Nas or talib would appreciate someone saying that black people in general just want to kill cops whenever they can based on these incidents (WHAT DO YOU KNOW BOUT NAS OR TALIBS MUSIC?)
SMOKE AND MIRRORS… AGENTS… F the judge that let them bastards get away!
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 5:41 am
WOW… guess that was too much!
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 5:42 am
WOW… guess that was too much!
I wrote a response to the stallion but f it… stay whate and enjoy the gifts while they last!
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 6:12 am
@ #14 (dumbasses)… I’ll give you that (not really) but if so what was the excuse prior to the 50’s when blacks weren’t the main criminals?
I guess Mr. Shabazz (kinda ironic your speech is a cheap imitation IMO of the chickens comin home to roost talk), Martin, God knows how many others… Emmit till
Blacks have been losin for who knows how long and as much as I believe in God I don’t want to cause if I do I must put the blame on him/her/it!!!
@ #14…GTFOH This sh!t is serious…
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 6:14 am
@ #14 (dumbasses)… I’ll give you that (not really) but if so what was the excuse prior to the 50’s when blacks weren’t the main criminals?
I guess Mr. Shabazz (kinda ironic your speech is a cheap imitation IMO of the chickens comin home to roost talk), Martin, God knows how many others… Emmit till deserved to be killed to!?
And folks think that sprinkle some crack on em joke is funny… only cause you laugh to keep from cryin cause you know the police (as a whole) ain’t right!
Blacks have been losin for who knows how long and as much as I believe in God I don’t want to cause if I do I must put the blame on him/her/it!!!
@ #14…GTFOH This sh!t is serious…
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Fuck Nas wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 6:21 am
Nas talks bullshit! Black people playing the RACE CARD again, no suprises there. None of the fuckin police men were white, you dumb shits, so how can you blame the white man? You bring all the shit on yourselfs. You all killing each other, but to dillusional to admit it. Wake up! Sort your own people out, befroe blaming others! REAL TALK!
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2cents wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 7:05 am
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Real talk… Don’t use slang of a people you don’t wanna be associated with!!!
And when white powers accept their responsibility, of slavery, and lynchings and systematic destruction of the culture and spirit of black people in general then I can tell more of my folks to stand up and be responsible for NOT FORCING THE ISSUE!
Point is, even if black people were the most docile in the world, we would be treated EVEN WORSE!
I’m out i really need to vent for real… 1 to the true heads and the middle 1 to the unsympathetic and fake sympathetic bastards up here!
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nik wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 8:55 am
I am more interested in seeing where people go as a community now than hearing about the outrage of the verdict. Yes, this is not justice, yes they were wrong, and yes the system once again rears its ugly head displaying the basis of which it was designed.
But, now I want to know what head are we going to show. I don’t just mean American Blacks, but Whites, Africans, Hispanics, Asians, South Americans, Mexicans, Middle Easterners, Indians, West Indians(though I don’t get why some of us separate ourselves from American Black). I mean we are all sick of the false fears, brutality, the poverty, the lies about lack, the lies about differences among us, just the lies period. Because the truth is, for the vast majority of us, we all want the good and abundance in life.\
So what are we going to do? Are we going to waste time throwing energy at all the things that we don’t want, giving it more power? Or are we all going to “squad up”, get some common positive goals and throw all the energy we can towards that? Let’s finally shake this shit. Life ain’t miserable, hard, or a struggle like they want you to believe. It’s BEAUTIFUL!
Peace to Nas, Talib, Cousin Jeff, Mos Def, and 106 for saying something
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nik wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 9:05 am
@24, 2cents, how could you blame God/The All for the choices we make? Man was made in image and likeness of The ALL, most people know that. But what people tend to do is cast their shadow of a likeness on The All to define The All instead of finding what is God and cloaking themselves in that image. The ALL is infinite Mind always creating and always existing and that’s what we are. So whatever reality we live in/are face with is the result of our own mind and nothing to do with the Supreme Being. Change your mind, change your reality
C’mon now dawg, you said…
“IN ORDER FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO STOP BEING DISCRIMINATED. THEY HAVE TO TEACH THEIR OWN TO ACT RIGHT. ADDRESS THE REAL SOLUTION WHICH IS ADDRESSING PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR OWN RACE. BLACK PPL ARE THE #1 CAUSE OF CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY. THERES YOUR FUCKIN PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.”
The way I see it (and i’m not trying to pull the race-card either homie), it’z the whiteman that’z causing a lot of problems too though, ya’ dig. And I ain’t tryin’ to preach to you with just “my opinion” (like you’re doing here).
Here’s some TRUE FACTS (in the video below).
BUSH: White People Going Insane (killing innocents)
Now after you watch that video… and APPLY your same statement (above) to it now:
“THEY (whites) HAVE TO TEACH THEIR OWN TO ACT RIGHT.
ADDRESS THE REAL SOLUTION WHICH IS ADDRESSING PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR OWN (white) RACE.
WHITE PPL ARE ALSO PART OF THE PROPLEMS/CAUSE OF CRIMES… ESPECIALLY THE WHITE MAN THAT’S (IN CHARGE) RUNNING THIS COUNTRY. THERES YOUR FUCKIN PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.
@ Stallion, The cops weren’t being run down…the undercover cops didn’t even identify themselves. They pointed their guns bc they ASSUMED the victims were getting a gun. What would be your initial reaction if they would’ve pointed the gun @ you?? You’re right, being shot 50 times by cops when you haven’t really cause any threat or have a weapon, it’s a tragedy. This is a tragedy that keeps being repeated on blacks. This isn’t the 1st time, and what’s sad is that it always happens to be a innocent victim…not the a real criminal deserves to be shot 50 times either. You are trained to be able to take someone down without the excessive amount of shots. As far as cops being shot on the job…I’m sorry to say, but that’s what they signed up for and anyone who shoots a cop doesn’t get away w it, they do their time if they’re caught. I can only imagine the pain his family is going through bc they lost a loved one and all 3 cops walked away clean. Acquitted of ALL charges, this can’t be justice. I wont even comment on all the ignorant comments.
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20% wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 10:31 am
why is all this shit going on in america? Im moving to canada, i never hear stuff like this going on over there!
TALIB, TAKE THEM DAMN SHADES OFF…NIGGA U AIN’T COOL! LOL
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COUSIN JEFF WAS RIGHT - WE NEED 2 PATROL OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:11 pm
I DON’T FEEL SAFE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE…
WHEN THE POLICE COME 2 MY NEIGHBORHOOD THEY PLANT DRUGS ON THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE …
MY BROTHER WAS KILLED BY A POLICE OFFICER AND THEY BLAMED THAT CRIME SOME DRUG DEALER AND THAT MAN IS SERVING TIME FOR A MURDER HE DIDN’T DO …
NOW HEARING THAT POLICE CAN GET AWAY KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE WITHOUT THE PUBLIC OR MEDIA CAUSING AN UPROAR …
I DON’T FEEL SAFE AT ALL BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH GUNS AND NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING 2 THEM AND THESE PEOPLE ARE THE GOOD GUYS THAT SAVE AND PROTECT US LIKE SUPERMAN …
I WISHED THAT WHITE PEOPLE WHERE TREATED THE SAME AS BLACK THEN THATS WHEN I THINK THE CHANGES IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS , HEALTH CARE , STOPPING RACIAL PROFILING, AND STOPPING POLICE WRONG DOING WILL COME …
I HOPE THIS DOESN’T 2 ME , MY FAMILY , OR ANYONE
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COUSIN JEFF WAS RIGHT - WE NEED 2 PATROL OUR OWN NEIGHBORHOODS wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:16 pm
GET 2 KNOW THE LAW AND PATROL UR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD SO THIS DOESN’T HAPPEN ….
WE DON’T NEED THE POLICE TO SERVE AS THE LAW…
WE THE PEOPLE CAN DO IT OURSELVES…
COUSIN JEFF CAME UP WITH A GOOD IDEA !!!
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Monkey wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
#25 Fuck Nas, you are a moron fuck you. These types of stores are the prefect example of things like everyone wasts to be a nigga but no one wants to be a nigger or who is down and who just like listining to connery over beats.
#25 f u and shut up none of the cops were white? It was 2 black cops and 1 white and the whit cop was the first to pop off and gave out 31 shots.
Even if all the cops were black it would still be racial because the police trains officers to view us as animals.
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IAKUBA (london) wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
BET finally played somethin worth witching! but the next day they back to that bullshit
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LA21 wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 4:10 pm
#2, #14, #25 are bitches anyway the only way to get the law to respect us (black men) is to shoot them on site that is the only way to get our respect
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sideshowRaheem wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 6:31 pm
Question, how come there isn’t this amount of outrage and marching when there is black on black crime in inner cities? If you lived in the part of Queens that this incident happened in your much more likely to be shot or killed by somebody doing dirt then by a cop that’s just a fact. This incident is tragic I just wish this many people gave a shit when someone is shot down by someone who isn’t a cop.
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LA21 wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
#40 i know what you mean but the police should not shoot unarmed men 50 + times its one thing when a thug does this but the police is there to protect unarmed men not shoot them because they thought they heard something
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Marika wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
@2, 3, 14: The cops didn’t follow procedure. #3 you wouldn’t say that to a “coon’s” face punk. #14 You are ignorant. Nationally, whites are arrested for more drug offenses, burglary, rape, domestic violence, disorderly conduct than blacks. Blacks get incarcerated more because of ignorant and racist judges in the criminal justice system. http://www.fbi.gov Table 43.
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Marika wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
@18 There are not cases where cops have been shot down with numerous bullets. People who become cops know that they are taking on a career that will endanger their lives. They are trained. These cops who killed Sean Bell didn’t follow the training guidelines. It is interesting that this type of thing never happens to whites, and whites are responsible for most criminal activities in this country. http://www.fbi.gov Table 43.
Cops are in stressful jobs seeing the worst of human behavior. That is why they should be given continuous psychological evaluations throughout their careers. When burnout occurs, they need to be given mandatory leave of absence. They don’t help the community when they treat EVERYBODY like criminals.
@2 What about Amadou Diallo? Was that his karma??? Don’t make excuses for poor police performance.
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Marika wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
@19 Unfortunately some brothas hate themselves. Propaganda and indoctrination over long periods of time can do that. Therefore, they hate those who look like them, and worship money and those who don’t look like them.
@26 As Paul Mooney said, HOW did the fuckin race card get in the deck in the first place—-RACISM. It is still alive and well, Black people deal with it every day. Whites are the most delusional group in the world—thinking they are superior to all others when everything they claim as their own was created by others, the black, yellow, and brown people of the world. That’s why they always want war, to kill off the people of color in this world because worldwide—whites are the minorities!!
@28 How positive of you. I agree with you, but venting is healthy. It is unhealthy to hold in anger.
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Marika wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
@26 Oliver is from Lebanon, he looks and acts white enough.
Race is in the mix because this ONLY happens in black & latino communities. 99% of the time its white cops shootin at an innocent black male. People are still mad about Amadou Diallo and many other cases in NYC too. Cops can’t be acting as judge, jury, and executioner!
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Marika wrote on April 27th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
@40 you’re right.
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Nas Speaks the Truth.
talib in his reply to Jeff in his words made him look ignorant..”the being the biggest drugdealer dont deserve to die” that’s being hypocrit!..a drug dealer supplies death to the people he sells to kill, killing families and such..so to me its Karma..thats just my point of view..karma comes around..and sean bell i believe was caught with drugs he sold to people that we’re practically dying from this drug..KARMA
smh at this coon nas tryin to publicity stunt again
POSTER’S OF REALTALKNY.NET DON’T YOU FOR ONE SECOND NOT BElIEVE THAT THE POLICE ARE NOT ONLINE NUMBER TWO IS A COP.(just look at his post)
KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN!
First of all, something about Terrence and Rocsi seemed very fake in this episode (not shown in the posted video, but all of the 106 episode talking about this). Rocsi was on the verge of tears more then once and Terrence was wildin out the whole time. I just don’t believe the passion that they were putting out. It was to much. Like they was trying to hard to be pissed off.
Anyway, as far as the Sean Bell thing goes, this shit is ridiculous. First of all, they shot at a moving vehicle which police aren’t allowed to do because shooting at a moving vehicle and having a dead driver behind the wheel of a moving vehicle is more dangerous then an alive driver trying to escape. Secondly, after every 3 shots the cops are suppose to stop and assess the situation. Obviously that didn’t take place here or else 50 shots wouldn’t have popped off and one of the cops wouldn’t have stopped and reloaded. Breaking those rules alone should indicate to people that this was a fuck up by the cops and the cops should get punished for it. And yet, the cops get off with nothing. Those white girls that were videoed beating the shit out of that other white girl are getting in more trouble then these cops popping off 50 shots. Michael Vick is getting in more trouble over some damn dogs then these cops are for killing an innocent man. TI gets in more trouble for copping guns then these cops are getting for actually using them on innocent victims. Shit is so fucked up in this world and legal system its crazy.
Wow # 2 has to be a cop ! HE SHOULDNT BE ABLE TO BLOG ANYMORE ! Like Talib said they tried to spin things to make sean bell not seem human . the man had a family and was getting married . if sean bell was a white man in midtown the cops would have been hungout to dry . and i still would think it was a shame . 50 shots would have killed a elephant or a rhino ??? what do you tink it would do to a Man ??? innocent people are beaten , killed , and false arrested everyday that is a FACT . Its not always on the news or high profile . sometimes its one shot not 50 . We have to do something about this ! and i dont want to hear march !
@ 5…If Terrence and Rocsi was fakin they need to quit they jobs and move to Hollywood cause I definitely felt that they was moved by the situation. Terrence maybe was putting up some sort of an acting gig but I think Rocsi was really about to cry.
I gotta say big ups to Mos Def who also called in at the end of the show. Mos Def is the ONLY rapper/entertainer that be on stories like this LONG BEFORE AND LONG AFTER these stories hit mainstream media. Im sick of these lame ass motherfuckers that wanna say they down with the movement when shit pop off but a week later aint doing SHIT!! I’m also sick of people who hate on Oprah cause “all she cares about it old white women”…When everybody wanna suck 50 cent and Jim Jones dick for saying “Fuck Alicia Keys” because she HAD A FUCKING OPINION about the government!! Does that really make sense??
We got to realize that yea the police is killing us…But DAMNIT we killing ourselves! If we dont respect ourselves why the fuck would anybody else. You know why they still treat us like its still 1963…Because we haven’t done anything since those times. We have actually gone backwards in what’s been accomplished. Black people today have more opportunities to go to school without legalized segregation and fear of being lynched just for “reckless eyeballing” but instead of bettering themselves they drop out to sell drugs on the corner.
Those cops at the VERY LEAST needed to get fired. Appropriate action would be have been for them to get some jail time for something: excess force, manslaughter, attempted murder, SOMETHING…
NO ONE should be surprised by this verdict..Mychal Bell from the Jena 6 case is STILL sittin in jail albeit for violating his previous probation (BUT HE AINT KILL NOBODY), Michael Vick gets 2 years for dog fighting, Wesley gets 3 for trying to dip out on Uncle Sam, Paris Hilton and Lindsey Lohan gets 2 hours for drunk driving… But taking a life deserves 2 years worth of paid leave.
WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?!?!
My heart and prayers go out to the Sean Bell family. R.I.P.
This generation is just full observers ..people who watch from a distance and think one black man’s problem isn’t theres, mostly because most of this generation have really personaly experienced first hand racism. They’ve seen it on tv and they hear about it by chris rock and dave chappele etc, but they’ve neva really experienced it first hand..if this happened in in the early or mid 90’s, you could expect another riot. Anyways violence won’t solve anything but man somethin needs to be about it but it just seems like people are not really personally offended by this like they should be. anyways im offended by the verdict but im not in ny..wut can you do?
NUMBER 3 STOP WILLIE LYNCHING!!!
@ #2 (Youth_Spoken) Karma, legal processes and fairness aren’t the same! Plus there is a demand for those drugs (good or bad) is there a demand for being assasinated and forgetten?
Realtalk though I respect the posters I see here more now… y’all know hip hop is more than music and seem to really care about whats goin on in society!
big ups esp. to emissary and elipses a.k.a. ….
this verdict was a complete fuck up. now what as a group of black people going to do about it.it will be real interesting what happens in nyc in the next couple of months.burn that mutha fucker down fuck it that is how those crackers felt.
fuck to post 4 and 6, im just saying from other people’s perspective and yea maybe i did say things w/o rational thinking but you got to understand some of the things that he did before this tragic event could have been karma…if you call me a “cop” then obama himself must be the sheriff then..
A drug dealer is providing addicts with options not death. They decide to do drugs. If the economy was better the drug addicts percentage would drop.
Anyway funny how these niggas on here tryin to educate people but they only on here because of the situation with Sean Bell. Niggas gotta be more proactive and less reactive. We wait for somethin to happen instead of tellin young black people to learn the law from the beginning.
these ppl are idiots… they only talk about solutions that everyone already knows about. once again they dont get around to the center of all the hate crimes against blacks/niggers.
IN ORDER FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO STOP BEING DISCRIMINATED. THEY HAVE TO TEACH THEIR OWN TO ACT RIGHT. ADDRESS THE REAL SOLUTION WHICH IS ADDRESSING PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR OWN RACE. BLACK PPL ARE THE #1 CAUSE OF CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY. THERES YOUR FUCKIN PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.
post #2 are you fucking joking? whats the difference between drug dealers selling narcotics and the government selling their bullshit drugs like oxycotton and xanax when we all know marijuana is the real medicine
Who you refferin to Pounce, posters or the comments by the artist?
Either way I don’t agree jus lookin for clarity… IMO Sh!ts been said again and again! People jus choose to not hear whats good for whats popular like money, clothes, jewels and hoes along with all the dumb sh!t monkeys (agents)like hov, 50 and other POP stars and wanna be POP stars be spittin!
again people stop fallin for the okie doke… f the presidential election in the govt sh!t raises! if all municipalities cities have uniform laws then states have uniform laws and the fed is forced to adopt laws in line with the states… The president can’t force the states to do anything!
Vote LOCALLY!!! You know the years in between the presidential election when your state and federal senate and legislation candidates are selected!
This whole idea that the main goal of the police department is to kill black people and opress the poor is total bulishit; yes there are cops that are assholes and others that may not be cut out for that type of pressure but lets not forget the dangerous high crime neighborhoods that these cops are patroling and lets not forget how heartless those that commit crimes in these neighbirhoods are. The problem with talib Kweli and other rap artists is that they consider it opression for cops to go hard after people selling drugs because they have decided that drug dealers are not that bad and just trying to make a living. Clearly the cops who shot 50 times did not handle the situation well and folded to pressure but lets not forget that they had a vehicle attempting to run them down in the street and they were in a dangerous area on a drug investigation with reason to believe one or more had weapons. It is a tragedy and I’m not saying the cops were right here but this general idea that cops all just want to kill and opress black people for no reason is ridiculous; cops may become hardened from working in areas were they constantly see horrible heinous crimes committed on innocent people and it just so happens that proportionately a high number of people in these areas commiting these crimes are black; but to say that going hard to crack down on crime in bad neighborhoods is an attempt to kill blacks and keep them down is just a dumb general statement to make people feel innocent about committing crimes like selling drugs and making the cops look like criminals. I am sure for every Sean Bell story there is a cop with a family who was gunned down in cold blood with numerous shots just for doing his job. And I don’t think Nas or talib would appreciate someone saying that black people in general just want to kill cops whenever they can based on these incidents
Heres the thing that is going to bother me…
In a few days, people are going to go back to running away from the cops but shooting at each other…
Thats bothered me for years! nobody wants to open there eyes though. they talk all this we don’t own boats and we don’t own that so we can’t be the root… well we don’t own record labels either (not like that) meaning theres a reason music morphed from the f the police talk around the riots to get money and cook up!
and as long as we too busy tryin to party we will never see whats up cause the powers that be will gladly keep you sedated… either way they will be paid and get paid!
its hard for me to double MY wealth in a yr…HOW CAN THE TOP 3 RICHEST MEN IN WORLD (atleast) do it doubling roughly 30 BILLION to 60 BILLION dollars!
f a half billi (or a whole billi), especially when you’re an agent siphoning money from the hood Anti robin hoods…
This whole idea that the main goal of the police department is to kill black people and opress the poor is total bulishit; NO ITS NOT, I BELIEVE YOUR POST WAS THOUGH.
yes there are cops that are assholes and others that may not be cut out for that type of pressure but lets not forget the dangerous high crime neighborhoods that these cops (VOLUNTARILY) are patroling and lets not forget how heartless those that commit crimes in these neighbirhoods are. (DUE TO THE LACK OF JOBS PROVIDED TO DARKER PEOPLE OR MINORITIES AS A DIRECT RESULT OF SLAVERY AND THE JIM CROW SOUTH)
The problem with talib Kweli and other rap artists is that they consider it opression for cops to go hard after people (WHO IN THIS CASE WERE WEAPONLESS AND NOT SELLING DRUGS side note do you know gun laws rules?) selling drugs because they have decided that drug dealers are not that bad and just trying to make a living. Clearly the cops who shot 50 times did not handle the situation well and folded to pressure (THEY VOLUNTARILY OPTED FOR) but lets not forget that they had a vehicle attempting to run them down in the street (NOW THIS IS WHERE I’M LOST WERE THEY FLEEING GUN SHOTS? HOW MANY COPS WERE REALLY THERE? ONE THING I DO BELIEVE IS THEY WERE UNMARKED AND DIDN’T ID THEMSELVES) and they were in a dangerous area on a drug investigation with reason to believe (BUT DIDN’t VERIFY, COPS SHOULDN’T SHOOT WITHOUT BEING SHOT AT!) one or more had weapons. It is a tragedy and I’m not saying the cops were right here (IDK) but this general idea that cops all just want to kill and opress black people for no reason is ridiculous; (NO ITS NOT AND YOU WOULDN’T KNOW YOU’RE TOO BUSY BEING ITALIAN)cops may become hardened from working in (NOT LIVING IN THOUGH…WOULDN’T IT BE BETTER IF INSTEAD OF PRECINTS AND SUBSTATIONS SOME POLICE ACTUALLY LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY!) areas were they constantly see horrible heinous crimes committed on innocent people (EQUALLY BY THE COPS AS CIVILIANS SEEMINGLY) and it just so happens that proportionately a high number of people in these areas commiting these crimes are black; (AGAIN … WHY IS THAT?) but to say that going hard to crack down on crime in bad neighborhoods is an attempt to kill blacks and keep them down is just a dumb general statement to make people feel innocent about committing crimes like selling drugs and making the cops look like criminals. I am sure for every Sean Bell story there is a cop with a family who was gunned down in cold blood with numerous shots just for doing his job (A JOB THAT IS DANGEROUS AND THEY VOLUNTEERED FOR). And I don’t think Nas or talib would appreciate someone saying that black people in general just want to kill cops whenever they can based on these incidents (WHAT DO YOU KNOW BOUT NAS OR TALIBS MUSIC?)
SMOKE AND MIRRORS… AGENTS… F the judge that let them bastards get away!
WOW… guess that was too much!
WOW… guess that was too much!
I wrote a response to the stallion but f it… stay whate and enjoy the gifts while they last!
@ #14 (dumbasses)… I’ll give you that (not really) but if so what was the excuse prior to the 50’s when blacks weren’t the main criminals?
I guess Mr. Shabazz (kinda ironic your speech is a cheap imitation IMO of the chickens comin home to roost talk), Martin, God knows how many others… Emmit till
Blacks have been losin for who knows how long and as much as I believe in God I don’t want to cause if I do I must put the blame on him/her/it!!!
@ #14…GTFOH This sh!t is serious…
@ #14 (dumbasses)… I’ll give you that (not really) but if so what was the excuse prior to the 50’s when blacks weren’t the main criminals?
I guess Mr. Shabazz (kinda ironic your speech is a cheap imitation IMO of the chickens comin home to roost talk), Martin, God knows how many others… Emmit till deserved to be killed to!?
And folks think that sprinkle some crack on em joke is funny… only cause you laugh to keep from cryin cause you know the police (as a whole) ain’t right!
Blacks have been losin for who knows how long and as much as I believe in God I don’t want to cause if I do I must put the blame on him/her/it!!!
@ #14…GTFOH This sh!t is serious…
Nas talks bullshit! Black people playing the RACE CARD again, no suprises there. None of the fuckin police men were white, you dumb shits, so how can you blame the white man? You bring all the shit on yourselfs. You all killing each other, but to dillusional to admit it. Wake up! Sort your own people out, befroe blaming others! REAL TALK!
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Real talk… Don’t use slang of a people you don’t wanna be associated with!!!
And when white powers accept their responsibility, of slavery, and lynchings and systematic destruction of the culture and spirit of black people in general then I can tell more of my folks to stand up and be responsible for NOT FORCING THE ISSUE!
Point is, even if black people were the most docile in the world, we would be treated EVEN WORSE!
I’m out i really need to vent for real… 1 to the true heads and the middle 1 to the unsympathetic and fake sympathetic bastards up here!
I am more interested in seeing where people go as a community now than hearing about the outrage of the verdict. Yes, this is not justice, yes they were wrong, and yes the system once again rears its ugly head displaying the basis of which it was designed.
But, now I want to know what head are we going to show. I don’t just mean American Blacks, but Whites, Africans, Hispanics, Asians, South Americans, Mexicans, Middle Easterners, Indians, West Indians(though I don’t get why some of us separate ourselves from American Black). I mean we are all sick of the false fears, brutality, the poverty, the lies about lack, the lies about differences among us, just the lies period. Because the truth is, for the vast majority of us, we all want the good and abundance in life.\
So what are we going to do? Are we going to waste time throwing energy at all the things that we don’t want, giving it more power? Or are we all going to “squad up”, get some common positive goals and throw all the energy we can towards that? Let’s finally shake this shit. Life ain’t miserable, hard, or a struggle like they want you to believe. It’s BEAUTIFUL!
Peace to Nas, Talib, Cousin Jeff, Mos Def, and 106 for saying something
@24, 2cents, how could you blame God/The All for the choices we make? Man was made in image and likeness of The ALL, most people know that. But what people tend to do is cast their shadow of a likeness on The All to define The All instead of finding what is God and cloaking themselves in that image. The ALL is infinite Mind always creating and always existing and that’s what we are. So whatever reality we live in/are face with is the result of our own mind and nothing to do with the Supreme Being. Change your mind, change your reality
@ #14 dumbasses:
C’mon now dawg, you said…
“IN ORDER FOR BLACK PEOPLE TO STOP BEING DISCRIMINATED. THEY HAVE TO TEACH THEIR OWN TO ACT RIGHT. ADDRESS THE REAL SOLUTION WHICH IS ADDRESSING PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR OWN RACE. BLACK PPL ARE THE #1 CAUSE OF CRIME IN THIS COUNTRY. THERES YOUR FUCKIN PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.”
The way I see it (and i’m not trying to pull the race-card either homie), it’z the whiteman that’z causing a lot of problems too though, ya’ dig. And I ain’t tryin’ to preach to you with just “my opinion” (like you’re doing here).
Here’s some TRUE FACTS (in the video below).
BUSH: White People Going Insane (killing innocents)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq5_vG3cYGM
Now after you watch that video… and APPLY your same statement (above) to it now:
“THEY (whites) HAVE TO TEACH THEIR OWN TO ACT RIGHT.
ADDRESS THE REAL SOLUTION WHICH IS ADDRESSING PROBLEMS WITHIN YOUR OWN (white) RACE.
WHITE PPL ARE ALSO PART OF THE PROPLEMS/CAUSE OF CRIMES… ESPECIALLY THE WHITE MAN THAT’S (IN CHARGE) RUNNING THIS COUNTRY. THERES YOUR FUCKIN PROBLEM RIGHT THERE.
Nuff said.
@ Stallion, The cops weren’t being run down…the undercover cops didn’t even identify themselves. They pointed their guns bc they ASSUMED the victims were getting a gun. What would be your initial reaction if they would’ve pointed the gun @ you?? You’re right, being shot 50 times by cops when you haven’t really cause any threat or have a weapon, it’s a tragedy. This is a tragedy that keeps being repeated on blacks. This isn’t the 1st time, and what’s sad is that it always happens to be a innocent victim…not the a real criminal deserves to be shot 50 times either. You are trained to be able to take someone down without the excessive amount of shots. As far as cops being shot on the job…I’m sorry to say, but that’s what they signed up for and anyone who shoots a cop doesn’t get away w it, they do their time if they’re caught. I can only imagine the pain his family is going through bc they lost a loved one and all 3 cops walked away clean. Acquitted of ALL charges, this can’t be justice. I wont even comment on all the ignorant comments.
why is all this shit going on in america? Im moving to canada, i never hear stuff like this going on over there!
TALIB, TAKE THEM DAMN SHADES OFF…NIGGA U AIN’T COOL! LOL
I DON’T FEEL SAFE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ANYMORE…
WHEN THE POLICE COME 2 MY NEIGHBORHOOD THEY PLANT DRUGS ON THE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE OUTSIDE …
MY BROTHER WAS KILLED BY A POLICE OFFICER AND THEY BLAMED THAT CRIME SOME DRUG DEALER AND THAT MAN IS SERVING TIME FOR A MURDER HE DIDN’T DO …
NOW HEARING THAT POLICE CAN GET AWAY KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE WITHOUT THE PUBLIC OR MEDIA CAUSING AN UPROAR …
I DON’T FEEL SAFE AT ALL BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH GUNS AND NOBODY CAN DO ANYTHING 2 THEM AND THESE PEOPLE ARE THE GOOD GUYS THAT SAVE AND PROTECT US LIKE SUPERMAN …
I WISHED THAT WHITE PEOPLE WHERE TREATED THE SAME AS BLACK THEN THATS WHEN I THINK THE CHANGES IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS , HEALTH CARE , STOPPING RACIAL PROFILING, AND STOPPING POLICE WRONG DOING WILL COME …
I HOPE THIS DOESN’T 2 ME , MY FAMILY , OR ANYONE
GET 2 KNOW THE LAW AND PATROL UR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD SO THIS DOESN’T HAPPEN ….
WE DON’T NEED THE POLICE TO SERVE AS THE LAW…
WE THE PEOPLE CAN DO IT OURSELVES…
COUSIN JEFF CAME UP WITH A GOOD IDEA !!!
#25 Fuck Nas, you are a moron fuck you. These types of stores are the prefect example of things like everyone wasts to be a nigga but no one wants to be a nigger or who is down and who just like listining to connery over beats.
#25 f u and shut up none of the cops were white? It was 2 black cops and 1 white and the whit cop was the first to pop off and gave out 31 shots.
Even if all the cops were black it would still be racial because the police trains officers to view us as animals.
COUSIN JEFF is RIGHT!!
BET finally played somethin worth witching! but the next day they back to that bullshit
#2, #14, #25 are bitches anyway the only way to get the law to respect us (black men) is to shoot them on site that is the only way to get our respect
Question, how come there isn’t this amount of outrage and marching when there is black on black crime in inner cities? If you lived in the part of Queens that this incident happened in your much more likely to be shot or killed by somebody doing dirt then by a cop that’s just a fact. This incident is tragic I just wish this many people gave a shit when someone is shot down by someone who isn’t a cop.
#40 i know what you mean but the police should not shoot unarmed men 50 + times its one thing when a thug does this but the police is there to protect unarmed men not shoot them because they thought they heard something
@2, 3, 14: The cops didn’t follow procedure. #3 you wouldn’t say that to a “coon’s” face punk. #14 You are ignorant. Nationally, whites are arrested for more drug offenses, burglary, rape, domestic violence, disorderly conduct than blacks. Blacks get incarcerated more because of ignorant and racist judges in the criminal justice system. http://www.fbi.gov Table 43.
@18 There are not cases where cops have been shot down with numerous bullets. People who become cops know that they are taking on a career that will endanger their lives. They are trained. These cops who killed Sean Bell didn’t follow the training guidelines. It is interesting that this type of thing never happens to whites, and whites are responsible for most criminal activities in this country. http://www.fbi.gov Table 43.
Cops are in stressful jobs seeing the worst of human behavior. That is why they should be given continuous psychological evaluations throughout their careers. When burnout occurs, they need to be given mandatory leave of absence. They don’t help the community when they treat EVERYBODY like criminals.
@2 What about Amadou Diallo? Was that his karma??? Don’t make excuses for poor police performance.
@19 Unfortunately some brothas hate themselves. Propaganda and indoctrination over long periods of time can do that. Therefore, they hate those who look like them, and worship money and those who don’t look like them.
@26 As Paul Mooney said, HOW did the fuckin race card get in the deck in the first place—-RACISM. It is still alive and well, Black people deal with it every day. Whites are the most delusional group in the world—thinking they are superior to all others when everything they claim as their own was created by others, the black, yellow, and brown people of the world. That’s why they always want war, to kill off the people of color in this world because worldwide—whites are the minorities!!
@28 How positive of you. I agree with you, but venting is healthy. It is unhealthy to hold in anger.
@26 Oliver is from Lebanon, he looks and acts white enough.
Race is in the mix because this ONLY happens in black & latino communities. 99% of the time its white cops shootin at an innocent black male. People are still mad about Amadou Diallo and many other cases in NYC too. Cops can’t be acting as judge, jury, and executioner!
@40 you’re right.