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March 5, 2008

Fat Joe…. is Robert Horry!

Over the past few years I’ve felt like…and believe me, it’s hard to even admit this…that Fat Joe probably hasn’t gotten the credit he’s deserved. I’ve come to gain a new found respect for Joe. I know, he can truly irritate the hell out of people…me included, but one thing none of us can deny is that somehow…Joe survived! Fat Joe’s first album “Represent” came out in 1993. He’s from the day when Chris Thomas was the Mayor of Rap City…and he’s still relevant. That’s a feat within itself…


So to make my argument…I had to think of another person to compare him too. Someone’s whose career parallels Fat Joe’s, yet everyone will acknowledge they may not like but do respect…and then it came to me….

For those of you out there that are fans of both hip hop and the NBA…Fat Joe is Robert Horry! I know right now that doesn’t make a damn bit of sense right now, but when I’m done…you’re going to say to yourself, “you know what Fat Joe ISSSS Robert Horry!”

You may just think about Robert Horry as just being “Big Shot Bob,” but if you look at the details and line both of them up next to each other, you can’t even deny that Fat Joe is Robert Horry. And if you respect Robert Horry….then you gotta respect Fat Joe!

Robert Horry comes in the NBA in ’92 out of Alabama. He wasn’t the superstar player any of his years there, James Robinson and Latrell Sprewell had those roles. But he was solid and a 1st round pick. Fat Joe…before we heard about Terror Squad, he was a solid member in D.I.T.C…wasn’t the ring leader (that was Lord Finesse and Diamond D) and wasn’t even close to being the best lyricist (that was Big L). He was just…solid!

Throughout his entire career, every time Robert Horry was no better than the 4th best player on his team…his teams won championships. He knew his limitations and was ok in living in the space. Set a pick, make a block, take a charge, hit a clutch three…he was good with that! Didn’t need to be the star…but I am going to have one on my team! Olajuwon, Drexler, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan…all going to the Hall of Fame! Yea yea yea yea yea, Big Shot Bob has more rings than all of them! I need to WIN!

Now since we first heard Big Pun destroy the first verse on “Off the Books,” Fat Joe’s always kept a superstar close by. You gotta give Joe credit for realizing Pun was a bigger star than him and letting him take the reins. He could have kerked out when his man got bigger than him (ie Cam’ron), but he knew he needed a star a win the 7 games series! What do I need to do to win? Old Fat Joe won’t work? Want me to loosen up and dance a little? Well let me jig around with The R in this “We Thuggin” video! I’m dancing with Ashanti you bastards. I’m surviving the times baby!

Rob was given a shot to be a star when the Rockets traded him to Phoenix…and he bugged out! Couldn’t handle it! A post Big Pun Terror Squad…with just Cuban Link and Remy, Joe was doomed! And what did each of them do? Trade me muthafuckas! Trade me to the Lakers! Trade me to the South! Now he’s got Rick Ross as Tim Duncan, Lil Wayne as Tony Parker, DJ Khaled as Gregg Popovich …and he’s…Robert Horry!

If you’re not a fan of the Rockets, Lakers, or Spurs, there’s a good chance you hate Robert Horry. He’s a hack, he’s a cheap shot artist, he doesn’t even play during the regular season… and f’ him for all those 2.0 seconds left in the game 3’s that still pain you to this day! All in all…fuck Robert Horry! But ask a Houston fan about Rob! Ask a Laker fan about those 3 rings he gave them! Actually…ask a Spurs fan, who’ve been on both sides of a “Big Shot Bob” game winner. Do what you gotta do to win the game!

Remember that hip check Rob gave Steve Nash last year in the playoffs, when Amare and Diaw jumped off the bench…that cost the Suns the series. And that’s what Joe did with Papoose over the weekend. I don’t know what happened down at CIAA…but the intended outcome was too rile up 50, Remy and whoever else already doesn’t like him, get us all talking about what the hell happened, help sell these albums, and WIN THE GAME!!!

Will “Big Shot Bob” ever go to the Hall of Fame? Not a chance! But you can’t take those rings away from him! And when you’re in the barbershop on Saturday morning, will anyone ever start an argument about Fat Joe being in anyone’s top 5? It ain’t happening! But somehow…he’s still on the radio!

 

Bari the Beautiful

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56 Comments so far

1.
ronnie coleman wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 9:52 pm

fat joe sucks and his album will flop, 50 cent eats rappers

first.

2.
Theft™ wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 9:53 pm

what kinda bullshit blog topic is this?

3.
RealTalkCA wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 9:54 pm

is it true taht he doesnt write his own lyrics??

4.
g-wix wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 9:58 pm

whoever wrote this is an idiot

5.
we do this wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 9:59 pm

ever since fat joe did that interview with RNTY ya been ridin him hard wtf is up with that? what props he deserve? dude is trash, he hops from dick to dick, cant do a single without somebody on it…….hops on every trend…dont write his own shit, just got 2 pieced by pap and had his bodyguards jump pap…..dude is trash

6.
CHILL WILL wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:02 pm

IT SEEMS FAT JOE PAID REALTALK TO PROMOTE HIM. AINT NOTHIN WRONG WIT THAT REALTALK. I RESPECT HOMIE SINCE BEING IN THE GAME FOR SO LONG. AND THE NIGGA IS NICE ON THE MIC

7.
LMAO genius post.. wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:07 pm

wow real talk this post just made me …laugh…haha this is brilliant Fat joe is the robert horry of the rap game…hes just there…he got hit singles…but he never makes it to that upper superstar…wow brilliant post real talk

8.
Hip Hop Fan wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:09 pm

Number 1 is a clown…his only rational for talking shit about fat joe is because 50 cent approves

i guess when 50 is one of the few relevant NY rappers yall gotta ride or die for him lol

9.
gmoney wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:16 pm

This joey the fat crack-head is not relevant to no one. I don’t know what world this story writer is living in. Fat joe is straight up garbage and I would be so happy if I never heard from him ever again.

10.
WTF wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

At first I was like “What the hell is Realtalk smoking”…but yeah I agree with you. Very good article. Keep up the good work!!

11.
cracks wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:22 pm

I have to agree also! Joey Cracks beeen around since DITC. Dude is still here. RESPECT!

12.
wallySMALLZ wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

cosign #10

13.
Ryan wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:28 pm

Listen where’s his big shots, Fat Joe is not a robert horry he’s an Eric Snow, he rides on teams to try to win a championship but he comes up short everytime. He uses other people to make him relavent he shouldn’t get credit for that!

14.
mrnewmy wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

FAT JOE KEEP MAKING THEM HITS ALL THE REAL STREET NIGGAS KNOW THAT 50 IS PUSSY AND WHEN U GOT POLICE PROTECTING YOU HE CAN TALK ALL THE SHIT HE WANTS BUT REAL NIGGAS KNOW. ITS BECUZ OF YOU THE WORLD GOT TO KNOW BIG PUN(R.I.P) AND I WILL ALWAYS SUPPORT YOU FOR BLESSING ALL OF HIPHOP WITH A LEGEND LIKE PUN..

15.
Vmoney wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:41 pm

what a dum ass comparison, fat joe never hit no big shots for no big team, he washed up.#12 dats a better comparison lol

16.
100% wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:50 pm

actually fatjoes been on winning teams numerious times in his career, he had mvp big pun on his team and they got the championship, he had remy ma (the fittest nigga alive), they got mad wins with lean back, he had wins with newyork with jarule of all people,

he later got traded to the miami we the best team and he got other championships there too,with make it rain and ofcourse playing on a winning team with we taking over, if joe got in the game in 93…that means he and method man, wutang, all dem dudes from the same era… that is impressive.

17.
mr.replay wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 10:57 pm

LMFAO!!!! I Know you didnt say Robert Horry Fat Joe is more like the guy who never got picked for the NBA cause he didnt know how to lay off of them Twinkies…Dont compare A fat Elephant to anything athletic…come on now..Fat Joe should be Known as a Sumo Wrestler who never Wins…lol!!!

18.
dominican gangster wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:09 pm

u who no i compare him 2 butterbean cause they’re wack at wut they do and they’re both fat fucks.

19.
dominican gangster wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:11 pm

u no who i compare him 2 butterbean cause they’re wack at wut they do and they’re both fat fucks.

20.
Young Trump wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:16 pm

Looks like one of Fat Joe website warriors hacked into this shit and changed it around. My $$ is on the fat bald guy that seems to be Joe’s bitch, always wiping down his sweat at the shows amd usually holding Joe’s box of donuts for him.

Either way Joey you have a questionable marketing plan.

To some it up you’re wack. I can still listen to like 5 of your songs and be like “hes not bad” but then you go ruin it saying you’re a slept on MC. Pap is more slept on then your hairy ass!

I remember the only time I got your CD. It was given to me SEALED on the streets of Brooklyn. HAHA They give that shit away in the hood.

Now Joey, read carefully (WE ALL KNOW YOU READ ALL THESE POSTS).

RETIRE, The rap game would not miss you. Maybe just the caterers while on you’re on tour would see some financial loss but they can deal with that.

PS: Don’t perform in Lawrence Sunday.

21.
Clipz wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:17 pm

Lmao perfect comparison

didnt have to write a damn essay tho, we get it

22.
Harlem wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:29 pm

Is it really that difficult for some people to just give the man some cred??? SMH. I mean nobody is saying he’s the best ever…but Fat Joe is still good at what he does. Most rappers only last a couple of years and then they’re completely GONE. Fat Joe has been in this rapgame since the early 90s and he’s still here doing his thing. Joe has always been solid during his whole long career…you gotta give the man some cred for that. Some of y’all acting like he’s some kind of bum or some ish like that. That ish don’t make any sense whatsoever.

23.
Harlem wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:32 pm

BTW Good article, Good stuff

24.
gerold wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:36 pm

Good comparison

25.
50 wrote on March 5th, 2008 at 11:41 pm

yea cause hes been tryin to make it for 15 years… realtalk hop offfffff.. quit ridin fat joe and games nuts.. wat they give u an autograph or somethiN? faggets

26.
kintell wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:08 am

fatty doesn’t get props because fatty never made his own hits.he always has someone on his song.ashanti,r.kelly,lil wayne so on and so fourth.

he stared this rap shit in like 1993 correct?so did snoop dogg and look at the difference.

@#14-its funny how you brought up “real niggas.” real niggas don’t respect a dude who puts cease and desist letters out to websites and threatens to sue his former artist if she works with a rapper he don’t like.THEY RESPECT THAT REALLY?

27.
Pin the tail on a donkey wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:08 am

man its crazy that fat joe been fat since 93… Is that healthy?… N most likely he wAs fat in the 80’s too we just ain’t see him. Joe is okay but he needs to shed some bear for his own good.

28.
african outlaw wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:13 am

yo great article, I agree with that,niggas need to give fat joe some props ’cause the nigga is not trash like you makin it n shit now wat i mean,i aint even a big fan of him dig wat im sayin

29.
INTERNET GANGSTER wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:14 am

@CLIPZ

WE DONT GIV A FUCK WAT U THINK U PUSSY I DONT WANNA SEE U ON THIS BOARD NO MORE WIT UR LITTLE DUSTY ASS FITTED AND UR ASHY ASS GUCCI MANE SKIN WIT THAT SALVATION ARMY JACKET..KEEP COMIN ON HERE TALKIN THAT GRAVY IM GON GIV U SOME MASHED POTATOES FOR THAT TURKEY NECK SON

30.
Moreno wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:17 am

Fat Joe=Robert Horry….hmmmmm i kinda agree. Plp that disagree prolly aint part of hiphop golden era

31.
Heeby Jeebies wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:22 am

BARI SHOW YOUR FACE!

32.
Clipz wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:24 am

Yeah yeah, saw it the first time

33.
David wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:04 am

@29

Speak ENGLISH punk ass

34.
County Of Kings wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:34 am

pardon me homie
but robert “big shot bob” horry has what 6 or 7 rings. he’s been a vital piece or role player to legitimate championship teams. and always contributed when it counts.
robert horry is a future hall of famer, due to the rings not the stats.
fatjoe has never been crowned the champion of anything, never contributed to the best of anything. if coming in 5th place (i’m being generous) is an accomplishment, he’s been doin that his whole career.
fatjoe is more like malik rose, maybe john salley, he’s the guy who comes in to give 6 fouls real quick then fades away, the beef starter, get the other teams best player suspended. worthless

35.
A RANDOM PRODUCER wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:45 am

A-N-O-T-H-E-R FAT JOE POST?

I LOVE THIS SITE AND THE WRITERS NO DOUBT,BUT GODDAMN,JUST BECAUSE HE GAVE Y’ALL AN INTERVIEW DOESN’T MEAN YOU OWE HIM ANYTHING(I’M NOT GOING TO PURCHASE THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM,THANK YOU VERY MUCH)

36.
Ru Aka Paniro wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:50 am

fat joe new album is krack hands down tru steals if u not a hip hop head den i understand da dik rydin on joe BX all dayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

37.
Pounce wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 2:09 am

I stay with an analogy and I wont hate this one. I would have said John Sally first but big shot Bob will do lol. Bari is a funny dude.

38.
A1 OFFICIAL wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 2:28 am

robert horry…LMAO

YOU GOTTA BE SHITTIN ME. WHEN HAS JOE EVER SOLD OUT ANY ARENAS? I’LL WAIT….YEAH AND WHEN WAS HE EVER NUMBER 1 ON ANY COUNTDOWN, CHARTS? THIS FAT PROVOLOGNE CHEESE SMELLIN NIGGA MUST’VE PROMISED RTNY A COUPLE COPIES OF HIS WACK ASS ALBUM THAT’S ABOUT TO DROP. FAT JOE IS LIKE KWAME BROWN.

39.
Jay Midnyte wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 3:18 am

Wow there’s some real dickheads on this board. I am NOT a Fat Blow fan, but I’m not a professional hater or Curtis Jackson Dick Rider. I can admit that Joe been in the game and he BEEN makin top 10 songs. Yea other people is on his tracks. So what. If you garbage, it don’t matter who on ya track. Look at Ja, he got the hottest rapper in the game, Lil Wayne, and still couldnt get no shine. So know what you talkin bout.

Yall father 50 Cent aka Undercover cop couldn’t beat Kanye in a sales battle?!?! It took him like 3 months to go platinum! That’s like a whole summer. Like when you get outta middle school and you go 2 high school and this nig still ain’t platinum. 50 needs to sit down and keep droppin mixtapes, cuz i ain’t gon front, his mixtapes is always hot. But he is mad that every1 is makin hits and he not. Lol his last album had atleast 7 singles on it and NONE, ZERO, of them had the impact Fat Joe & J holiday had. So yall need to get off the man’s pole and use ya heads.

40.
dat dude wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 3:33 am

OK IT SEEMS THAT U GOTTA WRITE IN CAPSLOCK TO GET THESE STUPID ASS INTERNET THUGS TO READ. WHY DO YOU HATE ON JOE AS MUCH AS YOU DO? YOU TREAT HIM LIKE HE´S CHINGY OR SOMETHING. REMEMBER HE MADE JEALOUS ONES ENVY HE MADE DON CARTAGENA, LOYALTY ETC. GOOD ALBUMS HANDS DOWN. CAN´T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THE HATE THIS DUDE GETS.

41.
yooo wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 3:41 am

what does it feel like to write the shittiest article Ive ever red?

42.
Young Trump wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 4:05 am

I’ll give Fat Joe credit HE IS A CLOWN.

I’d much rather listen to his stories then Jim Jones or other D list hip hop / KOCH artists.

The way he makes me laugh is being inconsistent withTHE TRUTH. Guy tells one story one minute and another 10 minutes later as you can hear in that radio interview posted recently.

Reasons like that I can never take him serious. ((((CLOWN)))

43.
Cam owns Juels™ wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 4:40 am

ye fuck that nigga name Clipz wit yo old dirty ass hat and dirty ass face, aint nobody tryin to see u on this blog.

yo listen to this new fatjoe, im really feeling this one featuring krs one, the flow is ridiculous…

Fat Joe - My Conscience ft. KRS-One (Prod by Alchemist)

http://www.zshare.net/audio/854507725cdc6f/

44.
whoa wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 5:29 am

lol @ #10 and cosign….i did the same shit

but i guess i see the comparison. rob horry makes 3’s and fat joe comes out wit cake ass songs that get spins on the radio. fair enough

45.
ezl_oo wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 7:31 am

FAT JOE IS WACK AS HELL!!! THE DUDE THINKS HE IS FROM MIAMI AND REPS THE SOUTH HARDER THAN WHERE HE IS FROM NYC!!! THIS FAT NI@@A NEED TO RETIRE!

46.
j speed wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 9:14 am

Realtalk, i’m losing respect for this blog. As a news site and a journalist you have to remain neutral when posting blogs up but you’re clearly bias towards fat joe which has become evident over the past couple of days with the posts regarding fat joe, 50 etc.

get off his dick and stay in the middle ground please

47.
D Ross wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 10:20 am

what the fuck is wrong with #1??.. “50 cent eats rappers”.. 50 cent Music is no longer irrelevant. Its a good thing Curtis Jackson marketed himself right! But the Ja Rule wanna be is lyrically WACK.. and like Dude said, Fat Joe debut album was in ‘93 and dude still has a following. With the exception of Nasir Jones who else in the industry can say that??? Great article RTNY!

48.
chilly wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 10:53 am

FAT JOE IS AN AVERAGE RAPPER AT BEST AND OCCASIONALLY HAS A HIT , BUT IF YOU NOTICE HE’S NEVER HAD A SOLO HIT, HE ALWAYS APART OF A CREW OF RAPPERS OR WIT A SINGER, NEVER CARRIED A SONG DOLO, ALSO HE NEVER MOVED HUGE NUMBERS, THE BEST THING THAT EVER HAPPENED TO HIM IS PUN AND HE’S SO CORNY TALKIN ABOUT HOW HE WANTS 50 SO BAD BUT CAN’T GET TO HIM, DUDES FROM THE HOOD DON’T USE NUMBERS AS EXCUSE, HE COULD GET 20 SOLDIERS TO ROLL WIT HIM TO G-UNIT OFFICES AND ASK FIF TO COME OUTSIDE, HE IS 38 YRS OLD AND NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERING RETIREMENT FOR REAL

49.
SMOKES BX WARRIOR wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

MOST OF YEAH DUDES UP HERE ARE GROUPIES JOES CRACK BEEN IN THE STREETS WHEN YOUR MOM WAS STILL WIPING YOUR ASS. CRACK BEEN HOLDIN DOWN THE BRONX SINCE FOREVER DONT U FORGET IT MOTHERFEEERS WHO ELSE CAN HAVE PUFFY,NICE AND SMOOTH,KOOL HERC,AND OTHER ALL IN THE SAME VIDEO BUT CRACK 15 YEARS IN THE GAME AND THAT AL HE GETS PAPOOSE WONT GET PASS 2010 I PROMISE U AND IF SOMEONE SAYS ANYTHING CRAZY ABOUT JOE IN THE BRONX THE GET JUMP BY AT LEAST 25 PUERTO RICANS

50.
chilly wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

PUHLEEZE AS I SAID BEFORE THAT NICCA WON’T MOVE MAJOR UNITS AND THAT NICCA CAN’T CARRY A SONG SOLO THAT’S A FACT IT’S ALL IN THE NUMBERS, SO WHAT HIS NEIGHBORHOOD SUPPORTS HIM, AND IF MEDIOCRITY IS YOUR GOAL THEN MANY DUDES CAN LAST FOR TEN OR MORE YEARS BARELY GOING PLATIMINUM ONE TIME IN 2001 AND AFTER THAT GOLD COME ON HE A LEGEND, OUR STANDARDS FOR LEGENDS HAVE DROPPED SO BAD AND ARE SO LOW, TO SIMPLY SAY YOU’RE AROUND IS ENOUGH NOW ???? AND LYRICALLY IF ANYONE WAS TO SAY JOE IS NICER THAN PAP THEY SMOKIN SOME OF THAT WHITE

51.
chilly wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

AND SINCE BX LOVES JOEY SO MUCH WHY DIDN’T THEY SHOW UP AT THE COLLISEUM FOR HIM IN CONCERT IT WAS PATHETIC, LESS THAN HALF FULL, BUT HE’S THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM

52.
Ty'son wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

This is a DOPE comparison, I feel alotta heads HATE FAT JOE because he’s Latino, but JOe’s been out since PAc and Biggie. Actually he used to do shows with Biggie. Props on the article….

53.
13ubba wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

I Compare Fat Joe To Clarence whetherspoon 50 more like a Lebron/Kobe

54.
Maxie wrote on March 6th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

All I know is nobody had a problem with Fat Joe until Fifty had a problem with him. Just like Ja-rule. Karma is a bitch. I can’t wait for the day when this shit come back on Fifty.

55.
Clipz wrote on March 7th, 2008 at 12:44 am

Lmao no one tryna see me on this blog?

Yet yall niggas take tha time outta ya own lives to write about me?

HOP OFF

56.
Souled Out wrote on March 8th, 2008 at 10:36 pm

Co-Sign this article, Fat Joe’s mad talented and survived throughout the factor of time…can Curtis pull it off??

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