Comments on: Coming of Age… and Getting In The Way: The Next Generation, Relativity, and Rap Music’s Dilemma http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/ Latest Music Videos from Rap & R&B, Along with latest Clothes, Sneakers, Movies etc. Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:19:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/ hourly 1 By: Bobsuio http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-2/#comment-236082 Bobsuio Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:21:56 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-236082 think sum1 already mentioned this guy dont kno but if he keeps doin his thing he cud b up top, he only like 16 lol better than soulja boy in my opinion www.soundclick.com/Diso think sum1 already mentioned this guy dont kno but if he keeps doin his thing he cud b up top, he only like 16
lol better than soulja boy in my opinion
http://www.soundclick.com/Diso

]]> By: Junez http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-2/#comment-214053 Junez Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:53:52 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-214053 I've skimmed through most these post - but I have to add my opinion reguardless. It's funny - I'm at best buy and I'm buyin the classics over again because my CD's either got scratched or lost. It's sad - but refreshing at the same time. I'd rather by an album that's been out for almost a decade rather current albums. We're all forgetting the recurrent artists like Common, Talib Quali, Scarface, even fake ass Baby and Weezy. We do have artists who will take the game over. I put my money on: Plies - Lupe Fiasco - Rich Boy - Glasses Malone. Everyone focused on what Nas stated "Hip Hop is Dead" and since then we've all been panicing like Y2k all over again. Everyone is illegally downloading albums and dancing. No one is buying hip hop because we're too busy hand clapping, rick james'n and superman YOOOUUUUU! at tha club. We do need new rappers to take us to that next level, I agree. It's WE THE PEOPLE who make it happen by either buying the music and making it to the concerts or illegally downloading music, hip-hoppin to the ringtones and watching clips of the concerts at home from someone's video phone recording on YouTube. Artists who did their part: The Game, Ludacris, T.I., Kanye West, 50 Cent Dr.Dre's last album is due as well as another Eminem Album this year. Patience. Do not think Soulja Boi is gonna last. ColliPark looks at him as a check. His single out now will kill him and his sophmore album will flop (If there will be one). Deuce Deuce Holla Back I’ve skimmed through most these post – but I have to add my opinion reguardless.

It’s funny – I’m at best buy and I’m buyin the classics over again because my CD’s either got scratched or lost. It’s sad – but refreshing at the same time. I’d rather by an album that’s been out for almost a decade rather current albums.

We’re all forgetting the recurrent artists like Common, Talib Quali, Scarface, even fake ass Baby and Weezy. We do have artists who will take the game over. I put my money on: Plies – Lupe Fiasco – Rich Boy – Glasses Malone.

Everyone focused on what Nas stated “Hip Hop is Dead” and since then we’ve all been panicing like Y2k all over again. Everyone is illegally downloading albums and dancing. No one is buying hip hop because we’re too busy hand clapping, rick james’n and superman YOOOUUUUU! at tha club.

We do need new rappers to take us to that next level, I agree. It’s WE THE PEOPLE who make it happen by either buying the music and making it to the concerts or illegally downloading music, hip-hoppin to the ringtones and watching clips of the concerts at home from someone’s video phone recording on YouTube.

Artists who did their part:
The Game, Ludacris, T.I., Kanye West, 50 Cent

Dr.Dre’s last album is due as well as another Eminem Album this year. Patience. Do not think Soulja Boi is gonna last. ColliPark looks at him as a check. His single out now will kill him and his sophmore album will flop (If there will be one).

Deuce Deuce Holla Back

]]> By: Ant http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-2/#comment-213654 Ant Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:43:07 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213654 These days I think it's more about the song than the content of the song. If you present in a way where people can latch onto it they'll get into it. The days of just being nice are over, no one cares if you're nice they want to be entertained. A lot of Hip-Hop fans get upset and say " so and so is the nicest, he should be selling more " or " if you don't mess with so and so, you don't know anything about real Hip-Hop." Most of the the people who talk about " real Hip-Hop " are the one's downloading albums. The people who are just fans of urban music as a whole ( Hip-Hop & R&B ) are the one's that buy the music, and a majority of the time they don't care about who's the nicest they just want to be entertained. They could care less about the content, they care more about the song and as soon some of the more talented rappers realize that then they'll be fine. There are some rappers who have substance and still make songs people can get into : Outkast, Kanye, Jay-Z etc. But just look how Andre 3000 hopped on a song like Walk It Out, he added some depth to it while still keeping what made the song fun in tact. You get the point. These days I think it’s more about the song than the content of the song. If you present in a way where people can latch onto it they’ll get into it. The days of just being nice are over, no one cares if you’re nice they want to be entertained. A lot of Hip-Hop fans get upset and say ” so and so is the nicest, he should be selling more ” or ” if you don’t mess with so and so, you don’t know anything about real Hip-Hop.” Most of the the people who talk about ” real Hip-Hop ” are the one’s downloading albums. The people who are just fans of urban music as a whole ( Hip-Hop & R&B ) are the one’s that buy the music, and a majority of the time they don’t care about who’s the nicest they just want to be entertained. They could care less about the content, they care more about the song and as soon some of the more talented rappers realize that then they’ll be fine. There are some rappers who have substance and still make songs people can get into : Outkast, Kanye, Jay-Z etc. But just look how Andre 3000 hopped on a song like Walk It Out, he added some depth to it while still keeping what made the song fun in tact. You get the point.

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]]> By: Wideawake98 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-213293 Wideawake98 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 03:01:21 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213293 I Wish I had a time machine so I could listen to these old rappers when they were young and HUNGRY.... When cats like BIGGIE, PAC, JAY-Z, LL COOL J, NAS, SNOOP, RAKIM, PUN, EVEN 50 WERE ALL HUNGRY. That's the difference now, the catz that are coming out now are GREEDY.... they want one hot single get paid off of ringtones and expect the same respect and recognition as someone who really put in work and put they heart into the music. Music labels are gassin these rappers something terrible, got catz like BOW WOW demanding the same respect as JAY-Z or NAS or anyone who is a legend and WRITE THEIR RHYMES. Rap is the new drug and everyone on it and everyone trying to sell it like 10 niggas on the block selling weed from the same supplier. But all in all I really think white people trying to take rap from us just like they stole or TOOK everything else we start. Even the cartoons is Hip Hop now they taking us out of our zone like a nigga with a handle. Oh that's JAY-Z by the way... I Wish I had a time machine so I could listen to these old rappers when they were young and HUNGRY…. When cats like BIGGIE, PAC, JAY-Z, LL COOL J, NAS, SNOOP, RAKIM, PUN, EVEN 50 WERE ALL HUNGRY. That’s the difference now, the catz that are coming out now are GREEDY…. they want one hot single get paid off of ringtones and expect the same respect and recognition as someone who really put in work and put they heart into the music. Music labels are gassin these rappers something terrible, got catz like BOW WOW demanding the same respect as JAY-Z or NAS or anyone who is a legend and WRITE THEIR RHYMES. Rap is the new drug and everyone on it and everyone trying to sell it like 10 niggas on the block selling weed from the same supplier. But all in all I really think white people trying to take rap from us just like they stole or TOOK everything else we start. Even the cartoons is Hip Hop now they taking us out of our zone like a nigga with a handle. Oh that’s JAY-Z by the way…

]]> By: daze http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-213231 daze Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:03:02 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213231 This shit is extremely tufff man I'm one of thoz ppl that is stuck on how old skool shit wuz juz the best... and I really don't kno what to say or do about it... soulja boy is on my hit list I can't stand him I think he's killing hip hop one song at a time yah.... some one needz 2 figure out a solution fast This shit is extremely tufff man I’m one of thoz ppl that is stuck on how old skool shit wuz juz the best… and I really don’t kno what to say or do about it… soulja boy is on my hit list I can’t stand him I think he’s killing hip hop one song at a time yah…. some one needz 2 figure out a solution fast

]]> By: fgant23 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-213228 fgant23 Thu, 17 Jan 2008 00:59:01 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213228 its real. he would get signed to def jam. they would see he'd have a nas flow. the lyrics is logical. same exact way nas started. i would bump his music and real labels and producers would sign him. even if its koch his lyrics are good. its like joel ortiz ya sleepin on him. hes nice! i do listen to that dance bullshit they put out now but i love the real hip-hop with logical lyrics. its real. he would get signed to def jam. they would see he’d have a nas flow. the lyrics is logical. same exact way nas started. i would bump his music and real labels and producers would sign him. even if its koch his lyrics are good. its like joel ortiz ya sleepin on him. hes nice! i do listen to that dance bullshit they put out now but i love the real hip-hop with logical lyrics.

]]> By: LEKS http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-213147 LEKS Wed, 16 Jan 2008 22:34:45 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213147 Brainwashed........ This generation is not trying to hear anything uplifting. Anything new. The technology got em. The Ipods, the Iphones, the sidekicks, the 4O million cable channels. Anybody can upload there songs, put out their video on youtube and build. Its open to the masses, to everyone. Its all about Marketing. The Video channels, the radio stations, these bullshit hip hop magazines, are to blame for misleading this generation. Some of these rappers are to blame also. You have these shows now on TV that doesn't show any positive lanes for the youth. Shows like Flavor of Love, MTV cribs, wack ass reality shows, etc, etc doesn't have any balance. My generation we still had a balance of positive tv shows as well as hip hop in different aspects. So its not about the music anymore.the five elements of hip hop music is dead. Can anyone tell me the elements of hip hop??? Because the current five are: Beef Ringtones Wack Lyrics Selling Drugs Mixtapes Brainwashed……..

This generation is not trying to hear anything uplifting. Anything new. The technology got em. The Ipods, the Iphones, the sidekicks, the 4O million cable channels. Anybody can upload there songs, put out their video on youtube and build. Its open to the masses, to everyone. Its all about Marketing. The Video channels, the radio stations, these bullshit hip hop magazines, are to blame for misleading this generation. Some of these rappers are to blame also. You have these shows now on TV that doesn’t show any positive lanes for the youth. Shows like Flavor of Love, MTV cribs, wack ass reality shows, etc, etc doesn’t have any balance. My generation we still had a balance of positive tv shows as well as hip hop in different aspects.

So its not about the music anymore.the five elements of hip hop music is dead. Can anyone tell me the elements of hip hop??? Because the current five are:

Beef
Ringtones
Wack Lyrics
Selling Drugs
Mixtapes

]]> By: tamera http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-213085 tamera Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:06:39 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213085 great post..i get sick of people saying crap like, i feel bad for your generation because you dont know what real music is. well don't feel bad for all of us because even though im only 16 i know the difference between a real hip hop emcee who can rhyme and a wack ass rapper. yeah i might not know as much history as the older generations, but i know what "real" music is, i might crank dat every once but i know thats not real hiphop. im a fan of lupe, joell ortiz (who ive been watching for) and anyone else who can provide real music. i know a lot of my generation just like the music they can dance to and dont care about substance, but thats not all of us. i dont think lil wayne is the best rapper alive, soulja boy isnt the shit, and even though its not real hip hop, its not good music, i can understand why people like lil boosie and hurricane chris cause make catchy songs and we hear them 24/7. oh, and not all people my age are disrespectful :) not speakin for everyone but just get sick of people saying, you younger generations and this and that great post..i get sick of people saying crap like, i feel bad for your generation because you dont know what real music is. well don’t feel bad for all of us because even though im only 16 i know the difference between a real hip hop emcee who can rhyme and a wack ass rapper. yeah i might not know as much history as the older generations, but i know what “real” music is, i might crank dat every once but i know thats not real hiphop. im a fan of lupe, joell ortiz (who ive been watching for) and anyone else who can provide real music. i know a lot of my generation just like the music they can dance to and dont care about substance, but thats not all of us. i dont think lil wayne is the best rapper alive, soulja boy isnt the shit, and even though its not real hip hop, its not good music, i can understand why people like lil boosie and hurricane chris cause make catchy songs and we hear them 24/7.

oh, and not all people my age are disrespectful :) not speakin for everyone but just get sick of people saying, you younger generations and this and that

]]> By: The King http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/topic/news/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/comment-page-1/#comment-213059 The King Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:28:01 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2008/01/topic/artists/jay-z/coming-of-age%e2%80%a6-and-getting-in-the-way-the-next-generation-relativity-and-rap-music%e2%80%99s-dilemma/#comment-213059 our generation and every generation b4 us had older male role models to teach us or force us to have respect , rules and regulations. there was an honor amongst theives, there were real gangstas that still sat wit they family on sunday. there was an older generation to always guide and mold so when the "wanna be gangsta" years have outgrown you u still have the knowledge to be a real man. today the big brother generation that should be molding and mentoring the young knuckle heads on the block generation are nowhere to be found, they either dead, in jail, or too scared or smart to even try to reach out and help guide these kids. our generation and every generation b4 us had older male role models to teach us or force us to have respect , rules and regulations. there was an honor amongst theives, there were real gangstas that still sat wit they family on sunday. there was an older generation to always guide and mold so when the “wanna be gangsta” years have outgrown you u still have the knowledge to be a real man.

today the big brother generation that should be molding and mentoring the young knuckle heads on the block generation are nowhere to be found, they either dead, in jail, or too scared or smart to even try to reach out and help guide these kids.

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