word sigel
dont start that shit
i’m one of your biggest fans
and i copped the album on friday
and i was very disappointed
all his albums been deep, from the heart
the solution lacks depth, passion, it dont sound like beans
i thought this was “the return of the bad guy”
it sounds more like let me hurry up b4 i get locked again
The B.Coming was so deep The Solution is just a let down
when in doubt……blame the label
what he thought he was supposed to go platinum this year?

“Jay Z spent all the marketing dollars on American Gangster” - 50

50 always seems to look like a prophet… after he talks “recklessly” as REALTALK will put it.

I’m a fan and I always be a loyal to another Philly man but Beans this one was a let down that shit was his worst material ever. I dont like not one song on that album.

…they just need to reinvent themselves…. a new year is just around the corner…..they can do it….

i agree hov is my dude but he needs 2 get LA Reid to support these rap artists. luda isnt gettin support and the same w/ ghostface, and all those rappers on def jam arent gettin support.

jay-z gets all the blame but u have 2 realize all the promotion he gets is from doing deals w/ companies outside of def jam.

kanye practically pays 4 his own videos cuz LA Reid won’t give him enough stacks to make a hot video

like i said hov will take all the blame but at the end of the day LA Reid is the man that distributes the money/overseas EVERYTHING. LA Reid fucked up LaFace Records as well a few years back and he’s doin the same w/ def jam. ne-yo and rihanna are cool but we NEEEEED real rap music man, ESPECIALLY from def jam cuz the other rappers suck.

think bout it if hov, nas, beans, freeway, bleek, luda, ghostface, fabolous, DTP, method man, redman, jadakiss all dropped consistently def jam would have a CHOKEHOLD on the rap industry.

i dunno thats jus how i feel

Damn !!!

Coincidence that Beanie starts talking ish about the Roc after his album is about to flop? I think not.

You can criticize the marketing strategy as much as you want, but these guys are failing to deliver hit singles. Step your game up!!!

While I agree with Sigel his album was str8 up ass cheeks. Go back to the drawing board fat bol

Ghostface shit was hott! Especially that track with Beans on it, that shit was deep.
I havent heard the solution yet though.

Someone said Luda doesnt get support…you are dumb or something. Luda gets a lot of support from Def Jam. Dont know if you realized it but Def Jam invests in the south AND R

they invest in the south and r

Def Jam South artists
DTP - Ludacris, Shawnna, Chingy, Shareefa, Bobby Valentino
CTE - Young Jeezy, USDA
Rick Ross

rnb
Ne Yo
Rihanna
The Dream

Frankly, the album was weak. Sounded like a transition album or experiment much like T.I. vs T.I.P. At least T.I had a bubbling lead single. Beans should’ve scrapped this one. And I’ma ROC fan.

^^ they all get bread. Def Jam isnt the same Def Jam anymore. Why do you think doofy ass Jay got a job as president. Its all a front people, their money is not going to us loyal NY fans. They through him up their as a puppet. LA Reid and whoever else is high up has their money where they want it.

LL wasnt lyin when he was speakin to us. The only thing LL was wrong about was that he didnt realize Jay cant do anything about these problems. its not really Jays fault. Russel left, and Def Jam needed someone to make it look like they were still the livest rap label. Jay might not even realize hes gettin played, and if he does he dont care cause hes getting gwap.

Here’s a riddle- What happens when you take the management out of the picture and all you got left is the talent? Huh, don’t know the answer? Rocafella.

Sounds like after Dash and Biggs were kicked off the roc, all Jay could think about was himself. I bet you the roc boys would have been more succesful had the bosses never disbanded like that.

#1, u are the biggest fuckin liar i have ever seen in my life, the album just came out tuesday, how u cop it last friday.

My nigga Jay is opening a brand new 5 star hotel and his boys are still trying to pay rent. We all we got, lol.

50 Says: “EVERYBODY ON DEF JAM THATS DROPPIN IN THE FOURTH QUARTER IS FLOPPIN”

“JAY-Z SPENT ALL THE MARKETING DOLLARS ON HIS OUT OF THE BLUE AMERICAN GANGSTER PROJECT”

Then, Jay said ” See Wha We do When Niggas Sell 2hunned, And Act Like A Platinum Artist, True Snuff Him

Beanie Siegal Feat. Jay-z - Gutted

so.. good luck to them cats… and who the hell is gonna cop young chris’s album?

Bleek need too be out… he should have an album out.

#15, muthafucka fuck you nigga! I coped it at CD Exchange nigga. Punk ass nigga.

i cant front though #17, young chris new mixtape joint was hott…that newprint shit. granted it was only like 5 tracks but still…
if he drops more follow up shit similar to that then id think about coppin his shit. he really has to show me somethin cause the last young guns shit was REALLLLLLl bad.

1st… where are all the fans that were talkin greasy about Dame dash because Beans left after the last album? Say that same sh!t about your daddy Jay now, unles you can find a reason (EXCUSE) for the man again!

@ #5 (ola)”i agree hov is my dude but he needs 2 get LA Reid to support these rap artists. luda isnt gettin support and the same w/ ghostface, and all those rappers on def jam arent gettin support.

jay-z gets all the blame… ”

Jay z tries to take all the credit. or so it appears… people give him credit for jeezy’s success but his 1st album had nothing to do with the “carter administration” and I’m not 100 on neyo and rihanna but I think those (1st albums) were la’s move’s too.

lol @ tony the tiger!!!

*imitating a stan: “Jay z is what we should all aspire to be… stop the verbal bashing you internet thug. He has more money then you, and he’s the g.o.a.t. (even though L.L. came up with that term and he can’t hold pac or rakims jock strap)!”

lmao!

#19, my uncle works there, so i know your definitely lying now!

u no who is tryin to destroy the rap game 4real -even tryin to go in on mixtape djs-damn can we live? ….btw this interview =Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

JAY TOOK ALL THE MARKETING MONEY……..shit is obvious, that nigga only cares about himself, thats why cam and them started beefin, jay is a selfish nigga, he dont care about his niggas

cosign #2 50 is a genius ya’ll under estimate the power of 50 all he was speak was the truth now look you got beans proven 50 right and for all the haters information on site sigel’s album is one of the best albums to come out in a while and if ya’ll dont see how real his album is ya’ll either aint no street niggas wit no morals and just dont understand the nigga i downloaded it and im gonna go buy 2 of them shits on sat but 50 Cent is the king of this hiphop shit ya’ll just dont like him cause he speaks whatever the fuck he wants to speak. There are 2 type of ppl in the business, ones who kiss ass and ones that just dont give a fuck you gotta figure which one you support and by the looks of this site ya’ll support bootlickers. 50, beans, jeezy and the rest of them niggas dont give a fuck they aggressive. Jay-Z, kanye, chingy, luda etc they bootlickers that dont have heart and they passive not aggressive. Figure out which one you are, im out

Nah but Tonythetiger, you gotta understand big homie jay perspective. he’s an artist and a businessman. he can only do so much for the whole team. he the CEO/main artist makin dame and biggs and them they dollars.I can’t explain the whole negotiation deal between them 3 but it had to do with the masters to Reasonable Doubt and giving the whole Roc back to dame.Those is tough shoes to fill. Businessman and Artist with integrity for the whole team. you thinking about your sole art you came in the game with that you don’t want to compromise and the hustle for the whole team(Rocafella).that’s some critical shit right there.it be different if jay was only a businessman.

King of southside you gotta remember Jay-Z is still an artist like everybody else. he can only do so much for the hustle for everybody else’s money. of course he’s got to think of his project and himself he still an artist. he’s not a full time businessman like dame doing it for the team. Jay can only do so much for the team but he balance that out with him still being an artist with his own material.

man listennnn lmaoo 50 tryd to tell yall DONT DROP after hov. idk either evn dropped album cover evn look like lmfaoooo

yall gonna start believin me nd 50 when we be tlkin

Beans is overrated

@ shine 95

Thats the whole point thats been argued way too much up here though. Jay can’t be an exec (him personally) and be an artist too! He really wasn’t qualified to get the job and he hasn’t stepped up and proved he deserves it because many acts have either jumped ship or been forced to walk the plank. Dame and biggs might not have “made hov” but they had a HUGE hand in creating him!

@ #15 jd/ that dude at # 19 aint me, i dont know why they posted my name and responded to my question

but i copped my beans cd downtown at the spot across from where Beat Street used to be (downtown brooklyn)
incase u aint know any album or dvd that is being released on a tuesday is already in that store the thursday prior. and most of the music stores downtown b4 the closed down would drop albums on fridays, everybody in bk knows that so u must now be from here

and why is everybody proclaiming 50 to be sum kinda genius cuz he said everybody that drops in the 4th on defjam was gonna flop?
we all saw the list of artist that are goin to drop after hov on defjam this month,u thought they was gonna go platinum? they didnt have any contreversy surronding their album releases
so beans and free flopped= that makes 50 a prophet?
heres some wisdom, every album beans and freeway drop for the rest of they careers will flop no matter what qtr, now give me my props too

TOLD YOU 50 WASNT TALKING “RECKLESS”

HE WAS SPEAKING THE TRUTH!!! LMAOO THIS IS PRICELESS

AND #31 ITS NOT JUST RECORD SALES HE ALSO SAID THERE GETTING NO PROMOTION THERES ABOUT 8 ARTIST THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE “ROCKBOYS” ALL DROPPING ALBUMS AROUND THE SAME TIME AND THERES NOT EVEN A TOUR SCHEDULED…BASICALLY DEFJAM/ROCAFELLA ISNT DOING ANYTHING FOR THEM FINANCIALLY…WHY???

BECAUSE JAY-Z SPENT ALL THE MARKETING DOLLARS!!!!

dont make a statement like that without backing it up
now name those 8 artist on rocafella that were scheduled to drop this december, you sound crazy.

and i dont see the difference between the promotion beans and freeway got, to all the other defjam rappers excluding jayz, the song all ya’ll keep singing is that no one got promoted so atleast he’s consistent. whether its b4 or after american gangsta. the problem is these dudes arent networking, rap money aint good money, u need other outlets to promote you, cuz niggas aint spending a million dollars promoting an album for an artist that could never sell 850,000 records.
jayz is chasing a billi- and he aint gonna fuck it up by wasting money

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Basically (jay) isn’t doing anything for them financially (with his half a billy) He doens’t run Def Jam as some believe but He is suppose to be the alpha and omega of the Roc now isn’t he?

he tried to do something different with this album, i respect his creativeness. u gotta appreciate his ability to change, none of his albums sound the same. yall niggas on 50 dick way too hard lol everybody knew beans was bout to flop. beans findin out the hard way that def jam aint spendin no money on they artists that might not sell. they really tryin to avoid takin a loss. but its business. if u wanna sell a lotta copies, go out there and hustle. get a buzz. niggas ran the streets right? did somebody have a budget for u to sell a birdie? promo budget to let niggas know u had the work? naw, u had to get on yo grind. its the same thing with the music industry. more now than ever. stop cryin about the label. start your own label, sell 100,000 and get the same amount u would get for goin platinum on def jam

some peeps in here cant even tie their shoe laces, ya’ll think runnin everythin jay runs is easy?

first of all sales are way down this year, second look at everyone else nobody is sellin shhhh so get off jay’s dick
third fif aint sellin either only reason he sold was cuz of kanye and their so called “beef” publicity imagine if kanye wouldnt of stepped up to the plate, fif would be in the 400’s, fif the prophet is trash we’re at a point in hip hop were shootin people, talkin bout money and ho’s wont sell anymore…look at kanye his album was different whether ya’ll like it or not the masses loved it. I’m a 90’s hip hop fan and all these artists came from the 90’s, they talkin bout the same shhh they were talkin bout in the 90’s shhh is lame, they gotta move on hip hop is stallin because the 90’s tryin to come back and stay, we gotta go forward…i bet ya’ll lupe fiascos album gonna go platinum, that shh is what im talkin bout i know haters are gonna talk but after all this is realtalk so go suck a #!$^

what beans said to the end was positive that the roc should be out touring. that comes with star power to headline the tour and if jay doesnt then roc shouldve aimed to acquire someone well renowned or get with a bigger name to co headline the tour.

if that is floyd…what high school did u go to?

lol @ R - 2…Fif’s Album Was HIP HOP…I’m Sorry But It Was, Kanye’s Album Was Very Creative And That Too Was Hip Hop

So Stop Acting As If 50 Is Selling Out Or Something..You Know DAMN WELL If 50 Would Of Outsold Kanye..You’d Be Hopping All Over His Dick

the Roc will never be what it used to be…

^^^^^^^^^^^

you ain’t never lie sayin that one!

Roc Boys, and Blue Magic videos budget was more than Beenie and Freeway album budgets combined.

that alone should show you how foul Jay is.

How are you gonna have all those ROC artists wearing suits and celebrating that fly life in the ROC boys video. but Freeway cant even get a video on BET rotation.

wtf is this?

DAME DASH!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY NEED DAME WHEN DAME WAS WITH ROC-A-FELLA THEY WAS POPPIN EVERYBODY HAD THE ROC IN THE AIR!!!!!!!!! DAME DASH GET IT BACK TO THE REAL ISH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yea the truth is in the pudding like to said the boys aint happy like fif said no hope 4 them dudes in the forth quarter ya dig stop that hov come on now brooklyn does it better than that !

It’s all making since now. Nas must have been givin a heads up on the marketing money. Cause he pushed back until Feb. It’s apparent that LA Reid shows favoritism. Everyone that dropped in the 4th quarter didn’t get the support. As far as the ROC, Hov needs to back his people no matter what. Cause it all is a reflextion of him. If Def-Jam is doing a half-ass job (last time I checked, Hov is the Pres. of both Def-Jam

The music industry isnt the same anymore people only seem to be supporting commercial music. You cant gaurentee a hit record Sigel had a video and R.Kelly for his 1st single even if it wasnt supported by the ROC he must of predicted it would create more buzz than it did.

You have to look at other labels and compare them to Def jam and you will realise that Def jam have performed the best this year.

Lol @ the 50 dick riders.

You are right 50 is smart he is only commenting on Def Jam to distract alot of people from G-Unit where it aint all good either everybody flopped apart from 50 cus he spent all the marketing money on CURTIS cus Em

You know whats funny? Couple months ago, everybody was talking this Roc Boys shit. Kanye was the king, Jay sold out in less than a minute; American Gangster; the ROC we back!! Then 50 talking “reckless,” we ROC BOYS. Now with they asses flopping all over the place, its LA Reid’s fault? Thats some punk shit! A week ago, Jay was talking about the grammys, and how he was a good exec, now its LA Reid’s fault!! 50 was right, no promotions, no tour, if his shit selling out in less than a minute, what about adding your crew, the ROC BOYS? Where you man Bleek album? Ain’t he in your will? Why Jay z only looks out for Jay z?

jay-z used no marketing money from def jam neither did kanye. jay used corporate (outside endorsements) and kanye paid alot of his own.It is bigger than Jay-z….LA Reid controls that paper over there. He is distributing it to the R

Hmmmm…. for all you Jay-Z lovers on the site LL said the same sort of things and people dissmed it and now another artists say it hmm…. Def Jam is done

what the hell does jay have to do with these niggas going out and touring and makin a buzz for themselves. so in order for them to make money jay has to go on tour with them. That means these niggas suck and nobody wants to see them. beans had a video and album commercials, which is what everyone gets. the album sucks he needs to get over it. these niggas still think it 99′ and anything you put out will sell. They dont go and promte there shit. they dont go and get endorsments for exposure. They think that since they been here so long that they just gonna sell records. these niggas are lazy. they have now business sense.

@ 50 when was the last time LL had a hit record or a platinum album. he aint had one since before lyor and kevin left defjam. why didnt that nigga complain then?

WOW! a rapper blaming someone else for his album flopping this is new, that’s never happened before.

Now that we’re done being stupid,Beans and Free will never and would have never went platinum while i like both artist and their albums lets stop fronting, those albums were not platinum selling albums. These niggas need to stop crying and move the fuck forward lazy mother fucker(instead of crying about support on the radio how about promoting yo fucking album while you there smh)

How are you gonna promote a these type of rappers to the commercial market it would be easy for Hov to say to put Timberlake, Robin Thick, Nicole Scherzinger and Akon on your album.

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R-2
The King
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Why people act like Jay-z suddenly changed lol? I think a lot of yall just started getting into the business side to hiphop when youtube videos became available.

Jay and Dame been the same way since the old Roc but niggas was actually buying albums back then. Beans aint have no big record on his album. The single with R-kelly was cool but hes right it was not marketed. Dej Jame owe damn near 100 mill right now. They spent cheese on Kanye and Hov. how much do niggas think they have?

Beans my nigga and the album is cool but its not worth $13. Everybodys plan is to drop in the 4th quarter so people can buy they shit for x-mas gifts. But its not happening.

not 1 hip hop album this week sold over a 100,000. The state of hip hop sales are embarrassing.

Why are hip hop sales so bad this year we all thought Kanye done great but then we all see Alicia Keys sales and you realise there is no comparison other genres aint suffering with downloading like hip hip is.

you know what i find funny that defjam is the only label actually putting out hip hop albums consistantly. all the other labels are pushing the albums back and those albums are never gonna see the light of day. defjam put out ghostface, beans, freeway albums- if these guys were on another label these albums would never come out. think about it. wheres papoose, saigon, bishop lamont. all these niggas aint ever gonna have they albums comeout unless they have a single that is generating buzz. atleast defjam isnt shelfing these niggas, couse you know damn well if they was anywhere else these albums would never come out.

oh yeah and i see how yall sayin jay not supportin roc boys.. look at 50, even if his artists flopped they still makin mills a check off of just being there… even 50 said it, he was givin them big checks but he had to cut back a little if nobodys working… jay on the other hand prolly not even handin out checks

you can’t blame the record sales on Jay. hip hop is fucked up this year. marketing Beans and Freeways album around all this other shit is kinda tough to sell their type of albums right now. The game is overpowered by Plies and Soldier boy etc. which I ain’t knockin it’s they hustle they deserve that but that type of hip hop Beans and them make, it’s alright timing cause it came out after Jay’s album but it would be great timing if the rest of the game would cater that type of hip hop. albums not just a bunch a party singles on one album.It’s just the machine people. that’s why beans say it is a domino effect. the blame can’t just go to one man. I think it’s dope that jay got that position cause they respect that man’s opinion enough to make him president but my opinion, if it is the fact that he still focuses on himself as an artist they should gave him a consulting position rather than president. I figure he don’t want to sit in that desk all day, he go on vacation or check out his Brooklyn nets or see what’ happenin at his 40/40 club. Can’t hate him for being in a fortunate spot.it is what it is

#59 I think hiphop sales are down cause bootlegs are readily available in the hood. In LA, Barbershops, Salons, Swapmeets are prime spots. I hear NY niggas always talkin about some Africans lol.

Plus of course personal illegal downloading and shit like i-tunes where you can get your favorite single ect. But this is why I am willing to bet money that Def Jam lets Hov go and just keeps JD. Hip-hop albums are not worth the investment, so no need for Hov. We lost retail late last year but R

I say what these niggas ned to do is stop spendig so much on their recordingbudgets. ifthese artists didnt spend so much n samples, thy could allocate that towards marketing or at get musicians to do interpolations which are cheaper than straight sampling. these niggas need to fire whoever is in charge of marketing their abums. every artist has a marketing tea for an album. if they ae unhappy with how things aregoing, they should have a clause in their contrats that wouldn’t alow them to drop if they knowb the albumis gonna perform poorly

Is it a cut on the amount of characters allowed now RealTalk? A nigga like me need to stop the essays I guess.
Well in a nutshell, Hiphop lost retail unless you a big huge artist or you that needle in a hay stack.

I bet in 2008 niggas start respecting what wayne, akon and tpain doin by getting all that feature money for hooks and verses. Gotta adapt with the market.

BEANS JUST HAD TO FUCKING BORROW 1700!!!?? Some Jay z dickriders defend a nicca who don’t even look out for your ROC BOYS. Jay’s concert series just sold out in less then a minute; unless that was bullshit, he should be looking out for his crew. 50 looks after his crew. You want 50, you gotta pay for the unit. Jay is supposedly RICHER than 50, but he’s selfish as fuck Bleek is IN HIS FUCKING WILL; how he not dropping is ill. Roc Boys my ass.

@ Floyd

what you talkin bout man, jay been in the game 11 years feeding these cocksukers. how many tours has jay done, and every tour these niggas go out with him. 50 been in the game less years than jay, lets see if 50 feels the same way after he been paying these niggas for ten years like jay has and they still aint amount to nothin. if i was jay i wouldnt be payin these dudes to do nothin you gotta work for your cut. look at the situaton tony yayo is the new bleek. he 50 hypeman, just like bleek is for jay.jay aint tryin to end up broke like mc hammer. you cant feed everyone.

Beans is ture 2 the game most of yall was babies when he was huggin the block. understand young bucks, this industry game has changed! Beans was the first to enter this game from philly in a strong way $$$$$ then every body followed he is the truth. This album speak real, it speaks to everyone. it tells the truth.www.thebogartemg.com

http://www.thebogartemg.com we will soon take this GAME OVER !!!! http://www.thebogard.com

http://www.clubbogard.com Beans is ture 2 the game most of yall was babies when he was huggin the block. understand young bucks, this industry game has changed! Beans was the first to enter this game from philly in a strong way $$$$$ then every body followed he is the truth. This album speak real, it speaks to everyone. it tells the truth.www.thebogartemg.com

i got both albums
and if beans and free wasnt on defjam they woulda been on the shelf if they even could get a deal from a major, they woulda been on koch.

everyone blaming jayz, and praising dame dash. when records used to fly off the shelves, dame was at the roc, they spent money, beans and free had big singles(what we do is wrong), and neither one could go platinum when everybody was goin platinum.
in a world where jayz and 50 cent struggle to go platinum, what makes u think these niggas would do numbers.why waste money.
and 50 forgot to mention that he dropped in the 3rd qtr and spent all the dollars so gunit cant even afford to release an album for the rest of the year.
defjam is releasing artist that have no chance of goin platinum, they should be grateful.

why is everyone talkin about 50, he has nothin to do wit this

the fact is that Jay Z as the president of def jam took all the marketing money for the rest of the year at def jam……..freeway and beans should at least be sellin 300K, at least. jim jones did that on koch, these rocafella niggas doing JR WRITER numbers on majors…What kind of shit is that……but LMAOOOOOOOOOO at that bitch ass nigga Jadakiss thinkin he was gonna get paid on that roc, nigga sold his soul for that advance check, Jada lost.

Jayz dickriders are some selfish fucks ; just like their idol. His concert sold out in seconds!! You fucks wouldn’t put your man on if he’s a ROC BOY. Where is the loyalty, the friendship. Its supposed to be the Roc Boys vs. the world; what happened? All yall supposed to make millions, and shit on the industry. Thats why I like the Unit. Everybody Eats, not just 50! Everybody got millions, mansions, concert money, etc. Jay is worth half a billion, and his man, his dogg, can’t afford 1700???? You niggas are crabs like you god mc.

the king #70, someone was using my user name on both of them comments.im from queens, and my cousin stays in brooklyn and he copped that freeway album before that tuesday it came out so i know what your talkin about. on to subject- i think sigel and free know more than what they are leading on, something crasy is about to happen.

http://www.rocafella.com Beans is ture 2 the game most of yall was babies when he was huggin the block. understand young bucks, this industry game has changed! Beans was the first to enter this game from philly in a strong way $$$$$ then every body followed he is the truth. This album speak real, it speaks to everyone. it tells the truth.www.thebogartemg.com

http://www.thebogartemg.com MO’MONEY NO PROBLEMS……

Fuck 50 and Beans. Jay didn’t take all the marketing money. Marketing is set aside for each project - YOU GET $$$ DEPENIDNG HOW HOT YOU ARE. He probably puts more towards Kanye’s marketing than anything.

Jay marketed himself through his manager. It has nothing to do with marketing money after the first week. All the record company does is set you up in an in-store, TRL, BET (WHICH BEANS AND FREE GOT) and the rest is up to YOU TO SELF-PROMOTE. If you’re hot, you’ll be heard and seen more. NO ONE KNOWS WHO BEANS AND FREE IS OUTSIDE THE HOOD. WHAT MORE OF A PUSH DOES JAY NEED TO GIVE TO THEM? FUCK 50 TALKING THAT SHIT BECAUSE AG SOLD MORE THAN CUUUURRRTTTTIIIIIISSSSSSSS!!!!!!

I will admit that Jay does need help with marketing the rap artists, but I GIVE HIM ALL RESPECT BECAUSE HE’S TAKING THE HEAT WHEN IT SHOULD BE L.A. AND STEVE ALSO GETTING THEIR NAMED CALLED OUT.

Keep doing you Jay - ‘CAUSE HE STILL AIN’T LOSIN’!!!!

Well Said #70!!

Also, Yayo and Banks were on 106 with 50, upset like Beans and Free because their album wasn’t doing well.

50 said to Rocsi/Terrence, on the air while Yayo and Banks were sitting there that “HE DID ALL HE COULD DO FOR THEIR ALBUMS. WHEN YOU’RE AN EXECUTIVE, IT COMES TO A POINT WHERE YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON A PROJECT THAT’S NOT GOING ANYWHERE AND THEIR PROJECTS ARE AT THAT POINT.”

FUCK 50 - HE’S FULL OF SHIT BECAUSE HE WISH HE WERE JAY. HE’S THE FIRST ONE TO TELL YOU WHEN JAY COMES OUT HE RUNS AND COPS JAY’s CD BECAUSE HE HAS TO HEAR EVERY WORD BECAUSE JAY IS NICE.

AGAIN, FUCK 50 AND BIG TO #70!

HAHA,AND RTNY SAID 50 WAS TALKING “RECKLESS”!

DONT WORRY BEANS,NEXT TIME JAY WONT SPEND ALL THE CASH ON HIMSELF

#77 wake up. 50 was talking reckless and he’d already done the same to his crew. Peep comment #76. He’s done that to them from day one. Also, he didn’t help them by jumping on their records as he says Jay should do. Let them stand on their own and then collabo - it’s always about the leader otherwise.

#66 - EVERYONE ON THIS MUTHAFUCKA NEED TO DIGEST WAT #66 SAID.. thaz truth fa real…

#75 get jayz dick out ya throat american gangster wont even be plat unless jay z buys the rest of them shits how the fuck it sold more than curtis dummy be 4 real that shit aint moving no units right now shit aint moving more then 10k a week right now…lmao niggaz gotta stop suckn dick

when i get back from tour in europe yall asses is mine.

stay on track you idiots.

this aint had shit to do with 50 you idiots.

g-unit aint complaining about 50 you idiots.

they on an international tour and wont be realeasing their album untill feb.and please belive there WILL be major promotion for that joint you idiodts.

now go back and watch the beans interview you idiots.

def jam artists are the ONLY ones that are uhappy and speaking out you idiots.

this is the difference between 50 and jay… 50 looks out for his people.. jay looks out for himself.. 50 is loyal.. jay is disloyal.. so yall need to wake up and look at things in actuality..i knw u people think jay-z is god himself. but he is not .. all he does is worry about going on vacations w/beyonce..

Shit…I think the Money isn’t there for music. Plus these aint new artist, they have to market themselves wit some of that show money. Kanye aint stupid. If it was up up to Jay z, Kanye would be hot. He didn’t trust the record company to do for him. That’s how The ROC got on, by puttin out they own straight to store DVD. Now Jay is the establishment, in order to survive he has to operate like the establishment. You can bullshit wit rap if you want…muuufucker!!!! Use that Maybach money and pay these program directors like every one else nigga.

in a nutshell, everyone talkin about jay spending marketing money, really we don’t thoroughly know all 3 of their deals (Beans Free and Jay’s ownership)so we ain’t got room to talk about that marketing money shit.it’s the truth ain’t it.

why dont ya get a fuccking clue. no matter whats going on in each label, the music industry is terrible. niggas need to move from that. its true when they say that beanie and free would have never gone platinum anyway but its also true when they say Jay-z is not the one with the access to all the paper to be doing all the things these cats want. Hov gets most of his money from endorsements and other ventures. you really think hes holding all that paper from music lately?? get a fuccin clue my niggas. there isn’t all the money in the world to promote and distribute artists. beanie and free should have had their paper right so they could be like Kanye and pay their own shyt. Make their own videos, and explore other ventures. Shyt you could be making money like Styles P by making your own carwash since everyone is trying to be whipping it. its all about smart business strategies.

if the album is trash then im going to blame beanie because in the interview hes like “i need to pay the bills”…that means his fat ass wasn’t really trying to make a strong record. hes trying to get his shyt out there so he can have some paper in his pocket. im not knockin him for tryin to get on his hustle but if your album is trash don’t say because people did not go out in the cold to promote it. just say its trash because YOUR FAT ASS didn’t put in work.
END OF STORY.

I see alota niggas trying to blame Jay z….so if Beans was signed to the ROC for 550,000. Niggas toured and had nuff features whe he was hot, and yall blame Jay for Beans being broke? A fool and his money will soon depart! No one gave Jay shit. So where is the Beans mixtape that leads up to the album? Where’s the collabs with up and coming artist? where are the youtube videos? You could have done most of that shit wit short dough.

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how the fuck you gon say jay is disloyal, why because he doesnt give his money away to these niggas. like i said in my previous post lets see if 50 is willing to sign those checks 7 years from now. jay been takin care of these niggas for over 10 years, its time for them to stand on there own 2 feet. how is beans gonna sit in an interview and say that they should be on tour, why doesnt he get his shit together and make a tour. but no he wants jay to headline and share his money. jay got other shit to deal with he shouldnt have to babysit these old ass mothafuckers.

@ 50 (dueces5000) MAN THATS WHAT THE HELL I BEEN WONDERING! When its all gravy its all Jay even in the old roc days and when its all bad it’s eevry one but jay (Dame, LA Reid)

***side note: whats up with jay stabbin lance rivera when lance was B.I.G’s dude? I don’t know much bout that story if someone carse to fill me in…

@ 68 (stardom) You must be kinda young yourself cool c steady b, 3xdope…

@ 86 (lordkaseem) I agree… I felt the roc/jay had deep enough pockets to keep Nas off the radio back in the day so use it to put your folks up now. He can’t pull back a spin of his records (old one’s) a day for one of his acts to get some radio play?

2 Cents you are lying if you think Hov doesnt get all the blame for Def jam flops LA hardly get a mention. It is funny how haters hated Dame when he was with Hov now everybody love him saying he would do a better job why didnt he manage to convince all of them to go to his label then.

I guess 50 was right when he said anybody from Def Jam comming in the last quarter is dead meat. I like Beans and Free but them niggas probably won’t even have another video. Jigga spent all the marketing money on American Gangster. Life is a bitch….

how can a thought be a lie T2? yeah I’m bein an ass but oh well…lol

but understand this or try to… what i’m sayin is pretty much based on comments i’ve seen in other posts regardin this general topic.

people (seemingly the majority) here have given jay credit for Rihanna, jeezy, ne-yo etc. careers at def jam but he wasn’t the one responsible for their success because their projects were done when he signed up if i’m not mistaken.

as with the old Roc people (seemingly the majority) here have given jay credit for the whole success of the label but in reality anyone with any kind of sense knows (even if he was the mastermind which I doubt) he still would not have been able to pull off what he did all by himself, so why discredit dame and biggs?

I know people want to be part of somethin and will get emotianally invested (No Limit movement) I’m no better than anyone else but most times I can atleast str8 up say I’m biased and thats what it is instead of lyin to myself to make my argument seem sane.

there’s no difference between Jigga (jake)/50 (5-0) and the rest of these kats. Pide pipers leading children and weak minded adults into the gutters with false premises.

niggas is stupid
its funny
rappers claim to be hustlers, so they are familiar wit the hood, the streets, the struggle
yet they expect these same people in the hood, the streets, the struggle to pay 13$ for they half-assed albums
if they were really from the struggle they would know that we would rather cop a bootleg than the real

when they stop tryin to hustle us, then we will start supporting them. kanye identify wit a different audience that wont mind spending 13 on a cd.

and if jayz was so un-loyal, would beans and free and bleek even still have jobs considering how they have never really been profitable, and beans stay in jail. any smart dude woulda drop them niggas, but he kept them niggas employed
so un-loyal, give niggas a hand, they want a fuckin arm

You have artists like Scarface selling 60K first week and he ain’t even Def Jam . Hip hop sales are just down thats the reality .

Kanye’s beats are also missing from the new Roc albums . He even skipped giving American Gangster a beat and just did adlib on one track .Normally he provides the radio hits for the Roc albums that propel the albums .Looks like he is now keeping beats to himself .And of course Beanie questioning Kanye’s manhood in public was a wise move knowing you might need a Kanye beat later .

Jay-Z has General Motors , Budwesier , Ace Of Spades etc contributing to his marketing money . Its not just Def Jam money.

50 is obsessed with jay-z . Talking about Beyonce’s privates on radio was weird , thats stuff you talk in private . If anyone admires that behaviour you need help .

I’m sick of you mafucka’s, everytime i read this shit most of you suckas are on Gay-Z’s DICK!!!!! Get up off it like most of his own people are doing, the Rock’s about to implode CHUMPS!!!! Deal wit it!!! Gay-Z has fucked everyone on Def Jam over, real intellegent people don’t fall for the OkeyDoke. Do your homework PEOPLE, 50 done bought damn near all his people $100,000 or better WHIPS with no recoup on the back end; WHAT??????? Shit, Memphis Bleek said it himself (in XXL I Believe, and if not XXL you TRU HIP-HOP Heads know which Mag it was ) that the reason he don’t rap about Bentlys and shit is because he don’t own that shit, because he can’t afford it. He went on to say that Jay, Dame, and Biggs own that shit not him!!! Fuck, the only reason Beans had ,or still has one is because he’s a TRU GOGETTA. Look how Gay-Z abandoned Beans During Trial, what the fuck is wrong with you people, open your eyes and get off Gay-Z’s dick will ya!! He fucked Dame and Biggs and now all the others are now waking up, Hey Gay-Z where you gonna hide when allllllll your friends turn on you?? Oh yea, you’ll still have these MOFO’S ridin yo dick so it’ll still be all good!! Tell you what I’m sure Dame and Biggs will take you back so go back home and put the ROCK back together while you can, and get your CRED BACK!!!

at the end of the day hip hop bussiness needs other things besides the the record company if there was a company which its sole purpose was to promote music it would have a better out look because these companies are not going to pay people to put up flyers go the radio stations outside of new york get the records played decide which is the second single which should always be the biggest record on the album get the dj’s to play them in the clubs this aspect of the game is damn near invisible thats why the street artist do it themselves you know kinda how jeezy did it wit the shirts the dvd’s like im in college undergrad freshman and my dream is to work in hip hop that you know coming up with schemes to have real music heard but yo if this bofonnery ass shit continues on ima say fuck and start schemin on this game fo real on sum shake dat ass shit smart people know what i mean

Niggas look at Hov like he is really a god lol. Hence the name Hov I guess. Same way religious freaks give God all the credit when its going good and blame the Devil for all the bad shit. I still think he should be kept on at Def Jam but he did fuck a few niggas over. Especially this 4th quarter.

Hey “96″, 50’s not obsessed wit Gay-Z, shid, this is chess not not checkers fools, once Gay-Z makes a move to front, 50 is gonna SMACK FIRE OUTTA HIS ASS!!! Best Believe 50 got some shit waiting in the rafters for his ass that’s why 50 keeps poppin dat shit!!! That’s why ya’ll caped crusader Capt. Big Lips didn’t do shit when 50 crashed him

P.S. “96″ If Gay-Z attempt to go at 50, 50′ll fuck around and have the ROC-BOYZ onstage shittin on Gay-Z, just like he had the LOXS’ old friend J-HOOD onstage wit him fuckin the LOX up!!! Tell Gay-Z’s ass don’t make 50 drop a bag off, You’ll see Them (ROC-BOYZ) let a lyrical Mag off, that shit’ll tear half his (Gay-Z) ass off, fuckin wit them hungry mafuckas over there in his camp. That boy aint feedin them dudes, that shit is about to emplode fools!!

as an educated hip hop dude…Beanie Sigel is depressed…he needs Prozac…immediately…

Since Cam left the roc it’s been doomed to go down!

Beans is upset because nobody is helping him get that sound… but on the real.. nobody is gonna help you… you got to help yourself… and just because you got a studio to smoke your shit in dont mean magic is gonnna happen in there… you got to find it in yourself…

Whoever the fuck says beans is overrated must be blowin some shit, thats garbage fuck that

Budden got a track on MM3 where he says Def Jam don’t give a fuck about any rappers except Jeezy. It’s Starting to look that way to me. Jay droppin American Gangsta like he is going through a midlife crisis and wants to be a young hustler, most of tghe other hot lyricists on Def Jam can’t even get decent collab work on Def Jam R