Is Hip-Hop To Blame For The Death of Sean Taylor
“Until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it’s not OK to “super man dat ho” and end any and every dispute by “cocking on your bitch,” nothing will change. Does a Soulja Boy want an education? The “keepin’ it real” mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There’s always someone ready to tell you you’re selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you’re selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.”
This is an excerpt from a article written by FoxSports columnist, Jason Whitlock. In the article Whitlock ties hip-hop into the recent death of pro-football player Sean Taylor and compares black on black crime to the KKK, calling it the Black KKK. I’ve never been a fan of Whitlock and this article doesn’t suggest other wise.
Read the article and let’s discuss.
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November 28th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
yeah, why dont we blame ery thing on hip hop while were’re at it
November 28th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
dam he went all in… but it aint hip hop fault, niggas hate to see another nigga from the same hood on top, black niggas is showing exactly why that crabs in a barrell theory is 100..
November 28th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
Jason Whitlock is an idiot, his accusations about hip hop are unfounded. Hip hop is not the blame for anything people live their lives the way they choose to; theirs a shit load of violence in movies and tv, but that never gets the blame. I expect more from Whitlock; he should pracrice real journalism rather than speculating and looking ignorant.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
nah its jeaousy, haters, envy, money!!!! thats why he got robbed n shot, souljah boy is a bubble gum rapper why would u reference him?, if u goanna reference anyone try nwa, maybe g unit, but usually dudes rob dudes because its a quick remedy to not having shit, not because there favorite rapper told em to.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
THIS DUDE TRYNA RAISE SUM KINDA HATRED AMONG US OR SUMTIN? ALWAYS TYING OUR HIP-HOP FIELD WITH OTHER INCIDENTS.. MAYBE TAYLOR WAS A FIEND ON THE LEAGUE OR SUMTIN, WHO KNOWS HOW DUDE GOT IN HIS HOUSE.. UNLESS HE LIVE ON THE BLOCK NOT TOO FAR AWAY, I SUGGEST WE MAKE A DISS RECORD TO EVERY HOMO CAT THAT ACTIN HARD CUZ HE COULD SAY HIP-HOP
PEACE. LOL
November 28th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
“This is an excerpt from an article written by Fox-”
I STOPPED THERE.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:33 pm
there is a shit load of violence in movies and tv, but that never gets the blame. I expect more from Whitlock; he should practice real journalism rather than speculating and looking ignorant.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
yeah and hip hop is the blame for the war in iraq also
November 28th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
fuckin idiot
November 28th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
WOW…this dude just ripped the “black man”, and what makes it worse he’s black!
November 28th, 2007 at 6:39 pm
these clueless people need to stop attacking hiphop for real… the world would be alot more boring without hiphop.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
#10, say word hes black!, im sure hes ruckus from the boondocks, hatin on himself like there aint no tomorrow
November 28th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
Its not hip hop’s fault directly, but hip hop does glorify the stupidity in the culture.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
The author of the article said:
“His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you’ve been murdered.”
He also mentioned the black kkk to wake us up…we are killing ourselves, our own people…he is right. A white man didnt kill him or try to rob him.
i think he is assuming sean taylors past had something to do with his death,,, i dont think he should assume anything.
he is not trying to say why dont black people rob n’ kill rich white celebrities instead, he is trying to make black people believe in education over violence.
truth is not many college graduates rob n’ kill, so he has a point.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
[...] IF U TRUE HIP-HOP, COME PEEP THIS forreal, Is Hip-Hop To Blame For The Death of Sean Taylor? ?Until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it?s not OK to ?super man dat ho? and end any and every dispute by ?cocking on your bitch,? nothing will change. Does a Soulja Boy want an education? The ?keepin? it real? mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There?s always someone ready to tell you you?re selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you?re selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.? Full Article This is an excerpt from an article written by FoxSports columnist, Jason Whitlock. In the article Whitlock ties hip-hop into the recent death of pro-football player Sean Taylor and compares black on black crime to the KKK, calling it the Black KKK. I?ve never been a fan of Whitlock and this article doesn?t suggest other wise. Read the article and let?s discuss. Source: Real Talk NY ? Is Hip-Hop To Blame For The Death of Sean Taylor [...]
November 28th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
LOL @ dude going at Soulja Boy….
November 28th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
what does hip hop have to do with this?? It has nothing to do with that, its all about the environment that people are brought up in and how their parents raise them.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:07 pm
[...] IF U TRUE HIP-HOP, COME PEEP THIS forreal, Is Hip-Hop To Blame For The Death of Sean Taylor? “Until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it’s not OK to “super man dat ho” and end any and every dispute by “cocking on your bitch,” nothing will change. Does a Soulja Boy want an education? The “keepin’ it real” mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There’s always someone ready to tell you you’re selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you’re selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.” Full Article This is an excerpt from an article written by FoxSports columnist, Jason Whitlock. In the article Whitlock ties hip-hop into the recent death of pro-football player Sean Taylor and compares black on black crime to the KKK, calling it the Black KKK. I’ve never been a fan of Whitlock and this article doesn’t suggest other wise. Read the article and let’s discuss. Source: Real Talk NY ? Is Hip-Hop To Blame For The Death of Sean Taylor [...]
November 28th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
REALTALKNY PLZ STOP POSTING THESE PEOPLES DUMBASS OPINIONS. THIS DUDE WENT FROM A SHOOTING OF “FOOTBALL PLAYER” TO “SOULJAH BOY” TO THE “UNLCE TOM” ISSUE. THIS GUY WORKS FOR FOX AUTOMATICALLY HE HAS HIS OWN AGENDA………..THIS GUY IS DEAD AND U ATTACKING SOULJAH WHO IS LIKE 16 YRS OLD. SPEAKING “PROPERLY” ISNT BEING A UNCLE TOM WORKING FOR COMPANIES LIKE “FOX” IS THE REAL REASON YOUR A SELL OUT.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:28 pm
I knew this was coming,it’s a shame that he used Sean Taylor’s death as an excuse to blame hip-hop.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
Of course movies & Tv don’t get the blame, Music is much more influent. It lets you be a part of it. It carries out values, divides (as well as unifies) people into social groups. It defines your style, your slang & so on. Not that its all defined by the music you listen to but I say it’s much more powerful than movies are.
Especially Hip Hop being more than just music but a whole culture.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:38 pm
solja boy wat the fuck??? lmao media blames hip hop for everything but this is to far super soak doesnt have anything to with guns.if anything to blame hiphop for glorifying money but everybody needs money. fuck the media
November 28th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
That said I in NO way agree with this article
November 28th, 2007 at 7:47 pm
Whitlock blames everything on hip hop. It’s probably also hip hop’s fault that he can’t fit in a standard-width chair and hasn’t seen his dick since 1982.
Also, using Soulja Boy as an example of hip hop isn’t smart. For one, he isn’t hip hop and nobody respects him. And two, Soulja Boy ain’t gangsta. His lyrics don’t make sense and Soulja Boy probably doesn’t even know what Soulja Boy is saying.
I think Whitlock makes good points about the black community, but he stops short of aiming at the root by scapegoating rap music. The music is a reflection of society. Rappers make songs about violence, drugs and ignorant bullshit, just as there is violence, drugs and ignorant bullshit in the world. The problems in the black community didn’t come about because of rap. Rap emerged in the early to mid 80s. You telling me everything was all swell for black people before then? We were all ardent believers in education and the advancement of our people before these rotten niggas started rhyming? Drugs, pimping, killing and corruption weren’t in the black communities until the “Rapper’s Delight” video got hot? I don’t think rap aids in the betterment of black people (aside from the rappers themselves and their friends/family who benefit financially) because it perpetuates stereotypes and glorifies crime, but it certainly didn’t get black America into the situation it’s in. That’s as vapid and assinine as people blaming rock music and video games for whiteboys shooting up schools. I think more of the onus should be placed on people (families and individuals) to be intelligent enough to accept music for just what it is - entertainment. If some nigga wants to rob a liquor store and he listens to rap, blame that nigga, not rap. Because 95% of the people who listen to the same shit he does aren’t going out and comitting crimes.
Unless it was Trick Daddy who had run up in his house, Sean Taylor didn’t die because of rap or hip hop culture. If his “keeping it real” had anything to do with his death (let’s say Taylor had beef with the person who eventually killed him), it’s more of a reflection of his upbringing in the black community and his personal mistakes/misfortune. To blame rap is to ignore the bigger issue.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:58 pm
the blame for problems in america has moved from voilence on television/movies to hip hop.
dont worry, they will find something else to point the finger at soon.
it might be the wave of illegal mexican immigrants coming into the county next time.
just wait it out.
but for the articles concern, i think the author is an asshole, but there is definite problems in our community dealing with ignorance an the whole, “acting black” and “being hood” shit.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:59 pm
he tryna block souljahs shine.. but no sirrr it wont work
November 28th, 2007 at 8:03 pm
he works for FOX.. need i say more
November 28th, 2007 at 8:11 pm
man can somebody please speak out on this racist hypocrite, why do we allow this to be said. we should be morning the loss of a life not trying to blame some random thing for it. this guy didnt know sean Taylor or his way of life or his family and for him to immedeately blame his death on hiphop is an embaresment to all of us. we shouldnt point the finger at others we should point it at ourselves and see how we can become better. black KKK??? man i just cant believe i just read that. wow
November 28th, 2007 at 8:32 pm
Before you blame Hip Hop blame the government. Because half the issues spoken about in Hip Hop wouldn’t be issues if the government would focus on the problems at home and stop worrying about the problems in countries where President Bush can’t even pronounce the leaders names properly. and if you don’t like all the talk about selling drugs then blame the government for not paying attention to the school system, write an article on why people actually graduate high school without reading at the level they should? Blame the Government because if this wasn’t occurring maybe it would be easier for guys to get Legit jobs. I honestly don’t understand why people feel the need to blame everything on one genre of music like movies and Television don’t exist because when you think about it what’s the number one movie that influenced most drug dealers and a lot of rappers? Scarface
…. I’m not saying this is to blame I’m saying if you want something to blame Hip Hop isn’t it.
November 28th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
No..
No….
and no…
Are there “bad apples” in Hip-Hop? Sure, I could go on for days about the problems that nag me in Hip-Hop & the portrayal/exploitation of it. But to cite it as the MAIN reason young black men are in danger of getting shot down is stupid. There’s many reasons why this is inaccurate. To say it’s the fault of a genre & culture is to say that it’s the mirror’s fault that someone who’s ugly unattractive, or it’s the scale’s fault that someone who’s fat fat (while it would be fitting, no intentional diss to Whitlock on that respect).
Whitlock actually seemed to have some good points about the black on black problems plaguing America, but in the end he pretty much misses the mark with Bill O’Reillyisms that misses the mark completely in trying to describe a genre using a mainstream artist that only describes on aspect of it all (not even addressing the fact that it’s somebody who’s incredibly wack & admits the need for no even needing to rap).
November 28th, 2007 at 8:59 pm
Half of the comments to this posting PROVES that what Whitlock is saying is true! I can hardly read the illiterate ramblings defending hip-hop and this gang culture!
Wake up, people. The man has a point.
I think Chris Rock said it best:
“It’s like a civil war going on with black people and there’s two sides… There’s black people, and there’s niggas. The niggas have got to go. Every time black people want to have a good time, ignorant ass niggas fuck it up. Can’t do nothing without niggas fucking it up. (…)
Nothing makes a nigga happier than not knowing the answer to your question. ‘Hey man, what’s the capital of Zaire?’ ‘Shoot, I don’t know that shit! I’m just keeping it real, just keeping it real.’ Yeah, you’re keeping it real, real dumb. Niggas hate knowledge. Shit, if you’re afraid a nigga will break into your house, and you wanna save your money, you know what you do? You put the money in a book. Cause niggas don’t read. Books are like kryptonite to a nigga. ‘Here’s a book.’ ‘NOOOOOOOOO! NOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Not a book!’”
November 28th, 2007 at 9:01 pm
co-sign #1
November 28th, 2007 at 9:09 pm
@ Ruffneck
I can’t say that movies and tv are less powerful as an influence than music. movies and tv do the same things you mentioned for music if not more. You can see violence or anything for that matter 24/7 on tv. tv is one of the most, if not the most powerful medium out there with radio and internet these days. watching the news (which is mostly negative), movies with a ton of violence, can have as much of an effect as music. People use hip hop as a scapegoat beacuse they dislike the music without understanding what true hip hop represents; its not for a lack of influece on the part of tv and film. hearing shit in the new is what produces copy cats such as some school shootings and things of that nature all that is tv and film. TV and FILM exploit violence way more than hip hop ever will. I am sure there are other forms of music that has negativity but people who don’t like hip hop are the ones who blame hip hop.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Whitlock WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS HAVE TO DO WITH HIPHOP? you fat fuck
November 28th, 2007 at 9:16 pm
hey #23, i remember where thats from, its from that chris rock stand up. dat shit is funny as hell. but on a serious note, this guy just blames it on hip hop. sean taylor already had bad connections and bad problems. you cant blame hip hop for that!
November 28th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
HipHop needs to be attacked because of the heavy negative influence its having on people( mainly young black people). But everytime something negative happens the answer is not to blame hiphop. Yes there’s violence in movies but that doesn’t ok the negative bullshit that rap can influence.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
#23 go play in traffic…
Your the same as whitlock, just because someone people are on the site making rude comments that doesn’tmake them a representation of everyone else on the site or hiphop in that matter
November 28th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Fuck Jason Whitlock….
November 28th, 2007 at 9:45 pm
^^^co sign this shit aint got nuthin to do wit hip hop
November 28th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
[...] on RealTalkNY regarding an entry written by FoxSports columnist, Jason Whitlock, that appeared to blame ‘hip-hop’ with the shooting and subsequent death of the NFL’s Sean Taylor. The responses were, as expected on a blog that targets hip-hop supporters, largely against Mr. [...]
November 28th, 2007 at 9:47 pm
when white people overdose they dont blame it on uhhhh….. i dont have an example lol but i know that there is a lot of music white people listen to where they’re mentioning doing coke
November 28th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
i would be funny if it was a white man that kill sean taylor
rip..
may God bless his soul and his family
November 28th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
PEOPLE ASK YOURSELF ONE QUESTION, ESPECIALLY FOR THE FEW COMMENTERS THAT ACTUALLY AGREED WITH THAT FOOL WHITLOCK..
NOW 15-20 YEARS AGO HIP HOP WAS NOT AS INFLUENTIAL, WELL KNOWN,OR BROADCAST TO THE EXTENT THAT IT IS TODAY. MOST OF ALL 20 YEARS HIP HOP WAS HARDLY NEGATIVE BECAUSE OF ALL THE POSITIVE RAPPERS WHICH WERE PREVELANT BACK THEN AND SERVED AS A WAY TO UPLIFT OTHER FOLKS. REMEMBER THE SUGER HILL GANG?
NOW ANSWER THIS, HOW COME BLACK ON BLACK CRIME, EDUCATION ISSUES, DRUGS, ETC WHERE STILL VERY PREVELANT DURING THE 80′S AND EARLY 90′S WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITIES?? THERE WERE STILL PROJECTS, AND KILLINGS GOING ON THERE. GANGS STARTED IN THE 70′S. AT LEAST MOST IN CHICAGO AND LA DID.. NOW ASK YOURSELF, DURING THAT TIME WHERE WAS HIP HOP?? THATS RIGHT… OBVIOUSLY THESE ISSUES ARE DEEPER ROOTED, AND THE SIMPLE FACT IS INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT OUR OWN ISSUES THAT HAVE PLAGUED BLACK FOLKS in AMERICA FOR DECADES SOME OF US WOULD RATHER BLAME IT ON HIP HOP, BECAUSE WE ARE SCARED TO ADMIT THE ISSUE LIES WITHIN ASPECTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HIP HOP.
SOME HIP HOP MAY HAVE MAGNIFIED SOME ISSUES BUT THEY DAMN WELL AINT CREAT THEM AND PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WILL NEVER ADVANCE IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY IF THEY DON’T START LOOKING AT THEMSELVES INSTEAD OF BLAMING HIP HOP. YOU THINK IF HIP HOP IS BANNED ALL OF A SUDDEN GANGS WILL BE EXTINCT, ROBBERIES WILL CEASE, BLACK EMPLOYMENT RATES WILL GO UP, AND SCHOOL GRADUATION RATES WILL TOO??? OH WOW, SOME PEOPLE ARE REALLY DELUSIONAL IF THEY THINK BANNING HIP HIP IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:13 pm
I do agree with some things that whitlock is talking about. I agree with him when he tires to explain how black people need to evaluate themselves and change some thing about us as a whole but the way he tries to say it makes him seem silly. He should have just let the hip hop out of the article and it would have reached people the right way. It seems like he is trying to say that sean taylor had this coming because of how he lived his life. He fails to realize that the gun charge actually had himself as the victim when it went to trial. He also makes himself seem silly because through out the article he seems to point t the fact that black men need to change but if you ask people close to sean they continue to talk about the difference he was made since the birth of his child. Hip hop is not to blame for someone running into someone house and shooting them in cold blood in front of his girl and daughter.Thats not hip hop problem but just another example of the world we live in. Whitlock is simply using hip hop just to reach a audience and sell papers and get his name out their. You put hip hop in front of anything and you will start controversy. I dont think the memory of sean should be that of a black man whos life was taken but just another human whos life was taking due to senseless act of violence. Him being black or part of the hip hop generation has nothing to do with it because theirs violence all over the world in all colors. I hope russia, korea, iran, iraq dont listen to nas, nelly, jay-z, or 50 cent because hip hop will be getting blamed for the ongoing and upcoming wars also.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:19 pm
Damn Whitlock is on some house nigga shit. You know Fox just hired him because they needed a black man to push their racist ideology.
As far as black kkk goes Whitlock is a Grand Wizzard.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:28 pm
wow, MR me 2 I actually didnt see your post when I typed my comment. I actually just saw it right now, which has been like an hour after I posted my original post and I noticed how similar what we both said was. Strange. We even both mentioned the Sugar Hill gang. Great minds think alike.
November 28th, 2007 at 10:39 pm
isnt it ironic that jason whitlock bashes hiphop every chance he gets.
but its this same form of hiphop that keeps him paid
dont bite that hand that feeds you bitches
i blame alot of things on hiphop but this man gettin murdered in his own house wit his wife and infant child doesnt seem like hiphop to me.and this mans death should be grounds for a topic about famous black men getting murdered and no one being caught,questioned,convicted. as bad as hiphop can be, it does have sum morals
when it comes to big,pac,jmj, and even sean taylor
i wouldnt really be that mad if sumone snitched on this 1
November 28th, 2007 at 10:46 pm
na scratch that
let them bitch ass cops get off that dunkin doughnut stool and do they fuckin jobs,
catch a black mans killer for once
worthless muthafuckas
November 28th, 2007 at 10:54 pm
SOMONE TELL ME Y ITS OK 2 BLAME THE DON IMUS INCIDENT AND THEN THE MURDER OF THIS MAN ALL SOLELY ON HIPHOP… DONT BLAME IT ON THA POVERTY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND LACC OF MONEY PUT INTO OUR SCOOL SYSTEM… DONT BLAME THA DRUG EPIDEMIC THAT STARTED IN THE 80′S… BUT BLAME HIP HOP… BLAME OUR ONLY MEANS OF EXPREESION AND OUR ONLY TRUE CULTURE THAT WE HAVE… U GOT 2 BE KIDDIN ME… THIS WHOLE SOCIETY IS OUT TO STOP THA BLACC MAN FROM ADVANCING IN THIS WORLD…
November 29th, 2007 at 12:01 am
Damn…let’s ask Jason Whitlock point blank without him being able to go online and get the answer, “What are the elements of Hip Hop CULTURE”. I bet a penny to a THOUSAND DOLLAR BILL he has no clue.
Jason Whitlock can eat a fat one. We don’t know who killed Sean Taylor yet (I suspect that his girlfriend might know something though…I’m sure the cops are looking real close at her). How can he say “The Black KKK” did anything? Does he know something that the police in Miami DON’T know?
F*#k Jason Whitlock & Fox News. They are full of s*#t.
Condolences to Sean Taylor, his family, friends and the Washington Redskins. R.I.P. Sean Taylor. Hip Hop had nothing to do with this man’s death.
November 29th, 2007 at 1:41 am
Man fuck that article a man got murdered in his own home probably got set up by someone close or around him and you trying to point the blame why doesn’t he put his time and energy and hire a private investigator or something and solve this case cuz this whole thing is some bulllllllll shit he didn’t deserve to die especially not at no 24 but this is life it isn’t the music it is unfair but it is life
November 29th, 2007 at 2:42 am
It is annoying that hip hop is taking blame for all the ills in society but the guy is right. If you listen to these rap lyrics all they talk about is kill that nigga shoot that nigga it sounds like a white supremacist wrote that.
November 29th, 2007 at 2:52 am
We are the only race that refers to ourselves in derogatory terms make others do it (chapelle,chris rock) and disrespect our women. I wouldnt want a racial revolt amongst ourself but we are the black kkk to ourself.
November 29th, 2007 at 3:55 am
Whitlock is a self hating dude. This dude blames rap music for all the ills of the world. The police don’t know the motive for Taylor’s murder, but this obese fake sports columnist is speaking out of his face. This dude is extremely upset that he couldn’t make it to NFL so he tried eating everything not nailed down.
November 29th, 2007 at 3:59 am
This dude lives in KC. All that pork bbq is probably the reason son is like 490lbs.
November 29th, 2007 at 4:01 am
^^^I know his arteries are all clogged up lol
November 29th, 2007 at 4:24 am
A gun killed Sean Taylor, not hip hop.
November 29th, 2007 at 4:55 am
The late great Malcolm X used to speak of “field nigga’s” and “house nigga’s” this journalist is a classic case of a “house nigga” his views expressed are those of the monkey dancing to the organ grinder’s tune! Until the facts surrounding this athlete’s death are known, everything said about by the media is just supposition.
November 29th, 2007 at 4:56 am
53 ppl, playing into his hands. tell me was it worth even commenting on such a stupid statement, im sorry,but sitting across the pond in the u.k., i do question how america spawns such idiots and then lets them jump on T.V.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:08 am
ok let’s get it poppn! Point takin on glock’s comments. But i do favor Whitelock’s opinion as well.
*Okay drugs,crime,and violence have always been a critical factor in the Black community. And i will never deny the fact that we are facing these issues because of the hatred and jealousy that has faced Black people since the begining of time. Yes some whites have defined a system that was/is created to hold us down. But it is up to us to break the cycle of ignorance amongst ourselfs.
The reason why we even have access to education ect, is because our people back then stood for a cause. We marched, we protested, and stood for one another.When we had James Brown and the Suga hill gang it just ignited us to party and keep it moving in a positive direction. But now this music is hardly giving any direction or morals to the youth.
What happened to the hope and dilligence we once had as a people? The drug movement came and destroyed our families. But how is that different as to when we where seperated and killed intentionaly to tear our families apart. The drugs are just genocide in a chemical form but it was once done by “the mans” bear hands. The majority of the community has become weak and hopeless. And the ones who do make it out are so damn happy that it’s to difficult to look back.
Leaving us with no more Martin’s, Garvey’s, or Malcom’s to look up to. The people who the youth are listening to now is the music. These artist don’t recognize the power they hold because they just so damn happy to make it out and ain’t think’n bout nobody else.
And i’m not blaming it all on the rappers but how are they helping us to move foward as a people? How are they breaking the sterotype that we Black people face daily? Yeah the company is run by some powerful rich white person but why do we always take the bait to become commercial objects to poision our own children. It’s no different from a white man handing you crack, shipping you guns, 40’s, and blunt wraps. Stop taking the bait just to become someone “famous”. Wake up people and be responsible!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 5:24 am
I can understand how some people can agree with this ridiculous article, but it does avoid the real truth. Ok, so let say we get rid of ALL music that has a negative message, then what? If we do get rid of hip-hop and ALL other music there will be a lot more violence because music does keep some kids off the street. We’ve talked enough about what hip-hop is doing to bring us down, can we talk about what we can do to bring us up? Try volunteering at church or where ever, to all you intelligent black men who are trying to live right, be a mentor. Young women need mentors also, be more active in your community and not just living there, take a real active stand against drug dealers. Don’t be afraid to distance yourself from people who aren’t doing the right thing. Black people have to take responsibility for our communities and step up, enough blaming music.
November 29th, 2007 at 6:44 am
Smh @ blaiming Soulja Boy
November 29th, 2007 at 7:57 am
This article was more about our culture and value system in my opinion that hip hop. But I take most of his shit with a grain of salt.
He was right about a lot of shit. I just think hes going about it the wrong way and I honestly believe hes a puppet for the media. Its always better to have a black guys come out and say shit that white people want to think since being publicly racist is no longer exceptable. Hence you get a puppet or what use to be called uncle tom ect.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:00 am
On another note, it doesnt seem lik RTNY writes all the comments anymore. Does Rawkus post some shit now?
November 29th, 2007 at 8:11 am
i cosign Brownsugar and anyone else who may have made a similar comment.
back in the day, alot of black athletes had a sense of pride and accomplishment. they looked like MEN not thugs. i dont know what happened with Sean, but alot of athletes dont let go of their ghetto mentality.
the streets influence hip hop not the otherway around. just like love and pain influence the music of people like Mary and A Keys. our lack of solidarity in the black community is to blame. no snitching and all that bullshit. u can sit on the news and say, this neighborhood is fucked up but u cant call the police when u hear gunshots in your backyard. (SMH)
im not saying he brought this on himself at all, im just looking at the bigger picture. i hate that this happened to him and i hope they find the clown that did it. with all that money, top notch security is a must.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:20 am
oh yea pounce, i cosign ur #64 comment. i wish black people didnt get so offended so we can really hear what whitey has to say, i dont want them hiding behind “US”. we say what we want, let them say what they want, lets keep this shit out in the open.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:23 am
I agree with #19 and a lot of the other comments…
Whitlock has gained a lot of ears recently for comments he makes about the black community. I honestly think he means well but he is misguided and I’m pretty sure he doesn’t mind making a profit off of his brand of “check-your-own-people sensationalism.” but after all…it is FOX.
First of all it’s extremely irresponsible journalism to make so many assumptions about a case, but I’ll give him a pass cause he sort of makes a disclaimer for that.
However, it is OBVIOUS that he (and even many of THE READERS THIS WEBSITE) doesn’t really know what hip-hop is. True Hip Hop is rap without corporate responsibility so it can be presented both negative and positive. You can’t paint all hip-hop with such a broad stroke. Many aspects of popular culture ARE INDEED TO BLAME for the attitudes and culture of people both young and old in this country. WE DO need to clean up a lot of the mindsets and song lyrics that are so prevalent in black culture today. But the world doesn’t exist in a vacuum and these problems were around long before this new negativity was embraced by television and radio.
I agree with Whitlock on the point that rap needs an enema but RAP IS NOT HIP HOP and don’t leave out the film industry, T.V. and popular literature as well.
One thing’s 4sho IF WHITLOCK DROPS DEAD TOMORROW IT’S OK IF WE ALL SAY HIS PHAT AZZ HAD A HEARTATTACK! lol.
R.I.P. - Sean Taylor. Thanx for giving us some great football memories over the years.
November 29th, 2007 at 8:45 am
LMAO. What A horrible way to tie hip hop for the reason of his death. But as far as content of alot of mainstream hip hop it is pretty dumb music, but then again we already know this. Majority of msuic execs really need to stop the sh*t its gettin ridiculous.
November 29th, 2007 at 9:31 am
niggas sit back and think.
November 29th, 2007 at 9:34 am
its not about JASON its about us and how we sat the bar so low that our lives don,t mean shit to nobody and to ourselfs.
November 29th, 2007 at 10:02 am
so they caught the person who killed sean taylor and he was black?/that’s pure self hate to assume a black man killed him with no proof/every race kills within their race and outside of their race this is careless rogue journalism at it’s worst/obviously whitlock is an idiot to coon for the white man and suggest all black people think with one mind/that has nothing to do with hip hop/music is just that music /evolution is a constant like a slow drip but sex money and murder will always be around no matter what genre of music is popular at the time/ and until this case is closed it is down right stupid to speculate about motives or the race of the person responsible/ and to put hip hop on trial in trying to make social commentary about things that have been going on since forever is utterly mindless/ whitlock should be ashamed of himself and i guarantee this man does not interact socially or personaly with any black people but jacks off everytime he watches a hip hop video fat fuckin slob/obesity is killing black people go on a diet you out of touch hog
November 29th, 2007 at 10:03 am
I read the first 16 comments and i dont think they read the article… plus its messed up how realtalk NY only put a small portion of the article to get a buzz on his site but missed the entire point of what the writer was trying to say… typical media bs…
November 29th, 2007 at 10:13 am
RealTalkNY…..THANK YOU for posting this article. I was reading it yesterday on the msn website and I was hoping someone would post this article. Man, when i was reading this…my temperature was just BOILING!!! It’s very unforunate that we had to lose Mr. Taylor to this tragedy. But you know whats real fucked up….when the incident first broke about his passing, in the back of my mind I was thinking….”I wonder who is going to be the first to blame this on Hip Hop?” I had my money on Bill O’Reilly, but it had to be one of our own!?!?
Im not gonna sit up here and try to castrate Mr. Whitlock for his views because eventually it’s gonna catch up to him. But when people continue to use Hip Hop as the scapegoat to America’s problems, I will continue to defend Hip Hop. In this particular case, Hip Hop and Sean Taylor shouldnt even be used in the same sentence. But if any critic of Hip Hop would like to have a intellectual debate with me about MY culture…hit me on myspace myspace.com/jaygetsbusy.
Long Live HIP HOP!!! and R.I.P. to Sean Taylor. Say a prayer for him and his family y’all!
November 29th, 2007 at 11:57 am
“Until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it’s not OK to “super man dat ho” and end any and every dispute by “cocking on your bitch,” nothing will change. Does a Soulja Boy want an education? The “keepin’ it real” mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There’s always someone ready to tell you you’re selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you’re selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.”
So true.
November 29th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Does anyone even know what superman that hoe means yet? Including whitlock lol?
November 29th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT! MIGHT ASWELL BLAME HIP-HOP FOR 9/11 B REAL TALK….ALL THAT DISSIN ON NIGGAS FOR GOIN TO SCHOOL AN SPEAKIN PROPER ENGLISH IS FUCKIN OLD SKOOL!!!TELL THEM NIGGAS SUCK A DICK AN GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!HIP HOP AINT DEAD! ITS JUST TAKIN A NAP
November 29th, 2007 at 12:33 pm
#74 that was on point.
November 29th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
Well i think he makes some factual points but still hez another uncle tom negro married to a white girl.. lol whom is confused and is jus tryin to be the acceptable negro and obviously hez tryin too keep his job by keepin the white men happy..
November 29th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
Or he’s ashahed of what his culture has become?
So what if he married a white chick? She might make nice $$$ and give good head and not run her mouth.. so who’s the fool? The dude has a career.. Oh but that just means he’s keeping the white man happy? Or it could mean he can put his kide through college and buy a house.
Oh, but I’m sure you’d rather stay on the block making moves. Lol.
Well, keep it real homey.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
I know what you mean 78 but its different when you feel like hip hop is the cause for something and you try to find a way to blame hip hop for something. Three out of the last five articles from whitlock has blamed hiphop in some capcity for whatever issue he is writing about.
I could care less who he fucks, get head from or marry. I could care less about his articles to because I think he has an agenda but lets not act like he is so ashamed and does anything proactive to change culture of our people. Bill cosby, Oprah (and she blames hiphop for a bunch of shit)or shit even Stephen A. Smith has youth program in philly and hes not rich like the two ppl I just named. Like I said I know what you mean and agree with some of it but dont give this guy credit he doesnt deserve.
November 30th, 2007 at 12:24 am
nah the return to reaganomics is the reason.
Sh!t been gettin serious lately, I feel sorry for him and hope the situation is resolved shortly.
I also hope no one in his circle was part of the attack… the media needs to get they sh!t together though watchin the news is a joke now… 10% news 97% speculation!
November 30th, 2007 at 12:58 am
@ #6(Mike Hawk)… YOU GOT THAT POINT!!!
To the rest of you guys… We Know what Whitlock is about and we know what fox is about…. DUH!
@ #31(L)… A making a point isn’t being right!
@ #50(The Funkadelic…)… Basically you covered it, I wasn’t gonna add the speculation though even though sad to say i have the same feeling!
p.s. this is a gauge IMO, they posted something similar about witlock within the last month and people are still not in accordance so the powers that be know they have the green light to continue and do what they have been doin… once we get in accordance then they’ll throw some real disaster at us!
November 30th, 2007 at 4:26 am
Hip Hop is the reason Bush invaded & is occupying Iraq not to mention health care crisis or poverty. Is hip hop the reason this dude is trying to eat himself to death? or the reason he doesn’t exercise? or the reason he wasn’t good enough to make it to the NFL? Hip hop has problems but so does rock & country genres.
November 30th, 2007 at 1:22 pm
Yall niggas blind because most of you are brainwashed with the HIP HOP CULTURE… Its music / entertainment.. Sure fashion plays a part and slang and a level of coolness but some of you are so brainwashed you really think your life rally around it. I grew up on hip hop and I used to love it but I don’t need 22’s on my whip.. You know how many peeps told me I should put some rims on my car.. like I care about that shit. I don’t think its cool to go to jail or if you did time.. I don’t think it’s cool to watch a freestyle battle and hear two rappers talk about how the gonna murder their opponent. I don’t think it’s cool to talk about how much drugs you sell or use or how many women you knocked off. It’s played on the radio and videos so much that most of you think it’s the way life should be. You buy the fresh whip for status reasons before you buy a house. These are the same people that yell “FREE T.I.” or say SMOKE WEED EVERYDAY.. Now there are some positive rappers but how many do you see getting regular play on the radio or video and how many positive rappers go platinum? This is the message going out to kids and adults and that’s why you have so many replies attacking Mr. Whitelock’s opinion. If you telling me ENTERTAINMENT doesn’t influence people, then you out of your damn mind.. I don’t care if it’s Hip-Hop or Hollywood you can clearly see that it’s affecting people. I saw a documentary and there were people in Asia with the baggy pants and the urban gear throwing up gang signs.. I WONDER WHERE THEY GOT THAT FROM? I shake my head at what some of my brothers and sisters become.. Materialistic, gangsters, and brain-dead…. GROW UP!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:27 am
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the point is they ARE NOT blaming entertainment! They are focusing on one for of it as you described which is HIp hop and the issue is why all the emphasis and focus soley on Hip hop when plenty other forms of entertainment can be blamed also!
December 1st, 2007 at 2:21 pm
I agree 2 cents(#85) but lets look at Hollywood Vs hip hop…. Both I think are PART of the problem.. When you look at what’s shoved in our face everyday you have more of a variety with Hollywood… Sure you have your gangster flicks and violence & horror movies and TV shows but you also have romantic comedies, love stories, period pieces, comedies, dramas..etc.. They use the TV and movie theaters to show it to you…
With hip hop you have your love songs, funny songs, club songs, life stories, and your songs from the hood and many more…The outlets are videos and radio and movies also. hip hop spilled over into Hollywood if you ask me Now be honest and ask yours self which of the 2 smack you in the face with negative images most of the time? Tell me why you think that.. Its easier to turn the channel on a tv and see something that fits you and your kids than it is to turn to a radio station with a urban format that doesn’t promote violence or drug use
I’m all for respecting all of your opinions on this blog but real is real.. I’m not saying HIP HOP IS THE BLAME FOR EVERYTHING.. I say it really starts with parents talking to your kids about what’s real and important in life but truth be told, THE CULTURE DOES AFFECT THE MASSES… It’s very little songs on the radio that doesn’t promote violence, sex, or drug use. For example im 34 and I don’t really like solider boy however I was listening to the lyrics and at first I thought it was a harmless song.. but then I heard the little dude say “IM COCKING ON YA”.. So you mean to tell me saying im gonna shoot you that on the radio is cool? That IS the message that helping us as a people move forward? And that song is marketed to the kids..
Look at the backpackers.. or the Conscious rappers.. or Gangster rappers.. How is it all of them share the same movement they involved in.. It was the form of hip hop they rallied behind along with the way they were living.. but the Gangster rap will always outshine the others because its BIG BUSINESS…SO… when a writer says HIP HOP is to blame how can we just shut our EYES and not see (JUST A LITTLE BIT) that that statement is partially true.. Please explain this to me?
December 2nd, 2007 at 8:06 am
@ Storm… The answer is embedded in your statement.
Ganster rap is big business.. THE KEY BEING BIG BUSINESS!
I’m not one to always point the finger, I see your point and I do agree BUT the more we decide to let pawns like Whitlock to determnine whos responsible its not right especially when they unbiasly focus on one portion.
There are very few companies that control media and as far as what coloreds tend to gravitate to CBS (Viacom) and ABC (walt Disney) even fox. these companies are the ones givin the ok on what hits the screen or what is played on the radio. if anythin my issue is the fact that folks will produce this crap at thes companies request soley for monetary gain knowin at some point how poisonous their material is. I mean if the media can make pac look like such a savage (listen to his cd’s) Imagine what they can make 50 and Jigga into? I mean I’m tired right now and it’s really hard for me to convey my thoughts cause they’re so jumbled up but again i feel you but if we don’t stop these people from scapegoating us all day we’ll end up in a far worst place one people really start believin its hip hop!
December 5th, 2007 at 3:01 pm
when i heard someone had shot u i felt and emptyness that will never go away u have been a great cousin this christmas will not be the same without you!! rest in peace and goodbye i will never forget u! :,(