November 28th, 2007
Jay-Z On Working With Biggie
It’s one of the most fabled stories in hip-hop history: Jay-Z and the Notorious B.I.G. meeting in the studio to collaborate on what would become the scorching track “Brooklyn’s Finest,” from Jay’s classic debut, Reasonable Doubt. One top-class MC pitted against a rising blue-chip MC, and when Jay passed Biggie a notebook to jot down words for his verse, the Bad Boy rapper passed it back and responded that he doesn’t write down his lyrics. Jay said that he didn’t either, and the lyrical showdown began.
Part 3 of MTV’s 4 part series.
Suggestion Box
November 28th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
1st bitches
November 28th, 2007 at 3:27 pm
biggie and jigga..the upper echelon of mcs…..
LET THE HATE BEGIN.
November 28th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
again i ask, wats tha deal wit MCs bragging bout not writin? honestly sum o these fake ass rappers who claim not to write need to start writin cuz they shit is garbage
November 28th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
wallysmallz is smoking crack. Jay-z is not an upper echelon MC he’s not even top 10 howbout that! fuck the old-head. nigga wack and stole mad shit from everyone including Big L fuck shawn carter..his new album sux and nobody care about rocawear. nobody wears it either!!! heres top 10 mc’s
Biggie
Big L
Big Pun
Krs-1
Big Daddy Kane
Rakim
NAS
Redman
Buckshot of Black Moon
Ice Cube
clssics LP’s BETTER than reasonable Trout
Criminal Minded BDP
Paid in Full Eric B & Rakim
Black Moon Enta da Stage
NAS ILLMATIC
Long Live The Kane
A nation of Millions Public Enemy
Biggie Ready to DIE
Tribe Called Quest: Low End Therry, Midnight Marauders back to back classics. Jigga aint never do this!!!!
Pete Rock & CL Smooth-Mecca and The Soul Brother
DAS EFX 1st joint
ONLY BUILT 4 CUBAN LYNX….THIS IS THE STREET ALBUM OF ALL TIME
Just Ice Back to the old school
EPMD Strictly Business
Special Ed I got it Made
By all Means necessary KRS-1
Sex and Violence KRS-1
Main Source Breaking Atoms
Capone N Noreaga The War Report
BIG L Life Styles of the Poor and Dangerous
NORE
Wu-Tang Enter 36 Chambers
Gang Starr Step in The Arena and evry CD by them after that
..c’mon Hova is the most overrated
November 28th, 2007 at 4:00 pm
Jigga and Biggie Is The Best Of The Best. They Are The 2 God’s Of The Hip-Hop Game.
And The Whole 757 Is Stand Behind Me 100% On That.
-VA 757-
November 28th, 2007 at 4:06 pm
Yo #4 I’ll go with you on your top 9 of them but Ice Cube??????????? Get The Fuck Out Of Here. You Puttin Ice Cube Over Jay-Z, Thats Like Puttin Diadoras Over Nike’s………….
November 28th, 2007 at 4:07 pm
thugminican is fuckin crazy, where u from ock hov not top 10,haha u shouldn’t b on dis website 4 sayin somthin dumb like dat……. U R DA WINNA 4 MY DUMMY OF DA DAY AWARD
November 28th, 2007 at 4:09 pm
It’s an acquired taste.
November 28th, 2007 at 4:20 pm
Jay-Z & The Notorious B.I.G. was one of the best collaborations of all time that joint was crazy!
November 28th, 2007 at 4:43 pm
LOL @ #4 most of the Jay-Z haters just hate on his new shit but to say Reasonable Doubt aint a classic is beyond belief. There are alot of rappers in your list that would not be in any bodies top 5 let alone above Jay-Z. Jay-Z is the greatest he is way more consistent than any of them dudes you mentioned.
November 28th, 2007 at 4:57 pm
Jay-z and biggie on brooklyns finest is definetly one of the best collabs ever, all you haters are probably still in high school and just dont know what your talking about, but all you others cats are really smoking shit. rasonable trout thugamabitchin should be smacked for that.
top ten
jay-z
tupac
biggie
nas
big l
big pun
eminem
krs-one
rakim
dmx
DILLA Toronto
November 28th, 2007 at 5:34 pm
Lol @ #4 wat a corn..How Hov not top ten but ice cube and redman is..lol..Hov..Biggie and Nas is tha greatest to do it
November 28th, 2007 at 5:50 pm
2pac,biggie and nas are the best forget this plagirizing ass nigga redman definitely deserved his spot so do people like joe budden,rakim,kane and wutang.this stealing ass camel is the greatest at bullshiting thats about it.
November 28th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
yo thugminican ya list is on point glad to see someone that apprciates that good shit.
November 28th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Ice Cube is top 10…i would have HOV up there high (like #1), but don’t dismiss Ice Cube. His rhymes on NWA, he wrote rhymes for others and he had classic solo albums. Go back and listen to ICE CUBE. His storytelling and delivery and in the words of ?uestlove…”…when I first heard Ice Cube, I literally thought he was coming to my house to shoot me”. “Jackin’ For Beats”…one of the best songs in hip hop history. “Ghetto Fairytale”, “Predator”, “Steady Mobbin’”, “How To Survive In South Central”, “Good Day”, all those NWA tracks…Ice Cube is top ten, it is just that his base was from the WEST COAST and the only west coast artist east coast people give any love too in their top 10s is Tupac (no love [and i am not saying they deserve top ten] for DJ Quik, Too Short, E-40, hell even Pharcyde, Alkoholiks, hell even SNOOP DOGG [who deserves top 10 MCs ever cause he is 34 and been doing it hard and selling records since 19. look at Snoop's catalogue.]. I ain’t here to flame East Coast bias, but come now, i bet most can’t even make a Top 10 West Coast MC list…itz all good though rap is rap…
November 28th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
That picture has him looking elderly.
November 28th, 2007 at 6:56 pm
haterz on here is on meth
November 28th, 2007 at 7:20 pm
Hov is my dude but damn can Free get some burn? Maybe he could sell more than 36k first week! Big Spender should have taken.him further.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:30 pm
damn eny’ is a bitch ass hater………big up to jay-z n biggie good collabo.
November 28th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
1 PAC 2 BIG 3. JAY Z 4 rakim 5 eminem
November 28th, 2007 at 9:56 pm
1. ANDRE 3000
THE REST DONT MATTER
November 28th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
sum of ya’ll rap critics out there that have a problem wit hov and the quotes he uses in his rhymes are crazy in my opinion
i write rhymes but no to become a rapper, just as a hobby
but if i were a famous rapper, from right here in brooklyn and i grew up on all these great rappers and classic albums i would absolutely quote the legends in rap on my albums.
on a few songs i would quote a true gem from big,jay,nas,pac and all ya’ll part-time rap fans wouldnt even know that line was quoted cuz ya’ll dont study your lessons.
jayz is like the peyton manning of rap, he’s a teacher and a student, he studied his teachers b4 him, thats why he is what he is
another day , another jayz article
“this is jay everyday/no days off”
November 28th, 2007 at 11:37 pm
if you really nice like that the shit is fun but if you not its a nightmare to the ear drum.it takes years to get to that level of mastery and even then it can be lost if you stop for a few month.look at me talkin like i know about that shit lol.
November 29th, 2007 at 12:02 am
#22 got the perfectly right idea. #22 we gotta givem the benefit of the doubt, if you don’t rhyme then u don’t count your opinions don’t count, it don’t matter what u say, but if u rhyme then ya boy The King right here just dropped a gem on yall rappers or mc’s or whatever u call yourselves. everybody does that shit in rap. that was the new thing to do. to quote a line from somebody else. see it’s funny cause that’s the only thing alot of people try to get on hov is quoting the lines from somebody else. even Camron dissed him but HE’S A HIPOCRITE cause HE DOES THAT SHIT TOO. it started like around 2000 or something when people started quoting Rakim or Big Daddy Kane. your favorite mc’s all do it( Prodigy, Kanye, Nas, there’s more trust me) it’s just that yall ain’t catch it cause yall ain’t listen to rap that deep. yall don’t keep up with lyrics like others do. it’s a way to pay homage when u do that shit. That Camron song about I’m not a writer I’m a biter was a soft jab. it wasn’t to be tooken seriously cause Cam does that shit if not more or as much as Jay. Camron quoted Pac, Biggie, I think even JAY-Z HIMSELF. Jay-Z gets the blame for it but he gets the blame for doing something dope that corny rappers can’t catch on too so the brother still wins. even haters makem win when they mention he doing new shit like that
November 29th, 2007 at 12:13 am
i know this is some random shit but does anybody know where i can find that old video
wit heather b, and m.o.p.-my kinda nigga
that shit was like on the 3 train or sumthin
that shit was so gutta
that kush got a nigga reminiscing, the good ole days
November 29th, 2007 at 2:45 am
LMAO HOW IS THE NIGGA STUPID CUZ HE DONT HAVE JAY-Z IN HIS OWN LIST? YALL NIGGAS IS FUUUCKIN RETARDED. SO WHAT ARE YALL STUPID CUZ YALL AINT GOT ICE CUBE, KURUPT (DONT TALK IF U HAVEN’T LISTEN TO HIS REAL SHIT) AND SNOOP ON YA LIST++
FUCKIN DUMB ASS MUFUCKAS. EVERYWHERE I GO ON THE INTERNET THERES JUST OVER A HUNNED JAY-Z STANS
November 29th, 2007 at 2:59 am
thugminican cmon r u dumb jay gt to be in at least da top 3 his rhymes r ccrazy have u heard any of his albums
November 29th, 2007 at 3:04 am
ronnie coleman u dnt dont deserve to be listenin to music r u dumb andre 3000 numba 1 cmon nt even top 10
November 29th, 2007 at 4:00 am
go Retire already
u fuckin coon
November 29th, 2007 at 4:04 am
dude looks more like grand father jay
November 29th, 2007 at 4:13 am
I was under the impression big was the 1st to spit a whole song without jottin it down. l8r taught jayz how 2 do it. they why ppl called jayz his protege.
but if he had a pad then he was still writtin his thoughts down. & big passed the gift. remember when he used 2 borrow verse of big’s jus 2 get that feel. but big was jus bein chris. one of the greats 2 bless the mic. back then when emcees expressed the drug game they covered it up & told u stories of the real. it wasn’t murder murder murder. but u learned lessons on each line that was spit.
somewhere we lost it for jewelry & riches. but ringtone rappers is done. but the art returns. thank u nas 4 exposin the factors. if u biggie then he puffy. we see what the roc had 2 offer. bleek is still a hit away. beanie is golden(should b plat).
2008 let’s suppprt real hiphop. let the media play with rappers. I can care less if its written or off the top as long as its hott.
rest in peace big, pac, pun, big L, jmj, aaliyah, left eye & all the others that’s paved a way for others 2 follow. tookie we miss u.
NY TO THE WEST WEST YAWL!!!
November 29th, 2007 at 4:17 am
@Fake thugminican u lost me with Buckshot & Ice Cube top 10 Slick Rick would eat both of those dudes. Steele & Tek are better than Buckshot shorty. Big & Pun are missed crazy. Pun was only dude that gave Big a run for his money. Maybe if Pun & Big were still here we would have NEVER went thru the crunk snap music phase.
November 29th, 2007 at 5:42 am
#22, your not from brooklyn, my counsin looked at your e-mail adress, he works at realtlk, your from heinzburg, kentucky. quit lying where u are from
November 29th, 2007 at 6:34 am
we are both gay lovers
November 29th, 2007 at 8:33 am
All the adults KNOW Jay-z is in the Top 3,and Reasonalble Doubt is in the top 3 classic Albums…The kids just don’t know hip hop…..they are 2 consumed with how old u are. I am just confused on how in every music genre’ age is showing dominance and character and respected, but the folks under 25 have now made an unwritten rule that all rappers have to range from bow-wow to mike jones’ age. If that is what hiphop is going for, we will never have classic albums, legends, and pioneers. Cut the age crap…If Jigga got it…he just got it! NO ONE CAN TOUCH HIM ..lyrically, the metaphores, the tracks, the concept and production. His game is unstoppable…….the ones that can hang simply do not exist anymore…they are deceased…..GROW UP! Get his entire catalog of albums…really listen to every word and then try and battle me in this conversation. You clearly have not done your research.
November 29th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
This nigga needs a new plateform because he has just been repeating himself over and over for the past 11 years. Nothing new with him and his misses. Same soup warmed over.
Besides, how hard is it to be the best when there is nothing to compair to but SHIT!!! It’s like pitting yourself against a mentally retarded person in a academic decathalon right now with this music industry so all you under 25ers need to STOP with the “Greatest” bullshit. 90% of the greatest to ever do it are either dead or no longer rapping and Jay knows it’s an easy win. It’s nothing to go after the weak especially when no one is strong, not even my favorite 50??!!
November 29th, 2007 at 5:24 pm
#22 & 24 – Real Talk.
For all the people that keeps saying Jay’s old, whack, etc., how did he last this long on top with all the same nigga’s ya’ll think are better spittin’ at the same time? He’s the best of the best and ya’ll can’t take it. Jay was born with a gift. If Big and Pac were here Jay would be even better because he’d have competition to keep him on his game. Those same rappers aren’t selling out shows within minutes, influencing anyone, helping people on a global level or putting kids through college. They’re getting high and buying jewelry. Hov’s past that and still spittin’ street knowledge. Blacks are the only ethnicity to tell their people to retire. Age ain’t nothin’ but a number and if the young rappers can’t take his spot, then he deserves his spot. Ya’ll some stupid ass niggas.
Hov’s the GOAT of this rap shit – PERIOD.
November 30th, 2007 at 6:57 am
@ # 36 (oh …) I second this emotion!
“This nigga needs a new plateform because he has just been repeating himself over and over for the past 11 years. Nothing new with him and his misses. Same soup warmed over.”
November 30th, 2007 at 10:06 am
#36 and #38 is yall up next? can yall step up to the plate? Can yall do better? Oh fuckin please here’s my 2 cents. a penny for both of yall thoughts.