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		<title>By: 2cents</title>
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		<dc:creator>2cents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 08:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ #22 (kev) well stated. I hope so... but I have my doubts.

Watts crackin made the best point to me, you got intelligent rappers dumbing down concepts and lyrics to sell records, they have no values... so they make up what they can simply to sell units not to make an impact like artist before did. 

Remember how you felt the 1st time you heard juicy? They don&#039;t make songs about aspiring to something greater any more, you gotta make millions live in the hood and supply coke still... f&#039;in stupid.

Worse though is the 30 yr old new comer t0o the game... smh
nigga you graduated from college why you slinging dime bags?
GET A REAL BUSINESS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ #22 (kev) well stated. I hope so&#8230; but I have my doubts.</p>
<p>Watts crackin made the best point to me, you got intelligent rappers dumbing down concepts and lyrics to sell records, they have no values&#8230; so they make up what they can simply to sell units not to make an impact like artist before did. </p>
<p>Remember how you felt the 1st time you heard juicy? They don&#8217;t make songs about aspiring to something greater any more, you gotta make millions live in the hood and supply coke still&#8230; f&#8217;in stupid.</p>
<p>Worse though is the 30 yr old new comer t0o the game&#8230; smh<br />
nigga you graduated from college why you slinging dime bags?<br />
GET A REAL BUSINESS!</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 06:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>smh at this argument hip hop is only so called dying cuz nobody is buyin albums if almost every big name rapper was goin at least gold like back in 05 then all this soulja boy,mims,and hurricane chris would be ok...u niggaz is hypocrites i love music hip hop rap and r&amp;b so in my eyes music as a whole will never die until i dont hear it trhu my ears no more...

VITAMIN WATER PEOPLE TRY IT...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>smh at this argument hip hop is only so called dying cuz nobody is buyin albums if almost every big name rapper was goin at least gold like back in 05 then all this soulja boy,mims,and hurricane chris would be ok&#8230;u niggaz is hypocrites i love music hip hop rap and r&amp;b so in my eyes music as a whole will never die until i dont hear it trhu my ears no more&#8230;</p>
<p>VITAMIN WATER PEOPLE TRY IT&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: white boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>white boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>number 22, i wouldn&#039;t say that gangsta rap is played out like it the only thing messing up hiphop, but it these fake rapper who act like gangsta, but they never live it. i mean you can be real and hardcore in anything, and in many different way with out being fake. but as long as you show how bad you have live it, to the point where you express it. weather it rap or hiphop people would feed in to it and buy it, especially if your good at it too. i mean look at rapper like 50&#039; the game&#039; even shyne pope&#039; who in jail, when those rapper first brought out there album there album sold mill to mill......so i wouldn&#039;t say gangsta rap is play out, to me it actually the newest form in hiphop that can sell some pretty big unit. not saying that gangsta rap is hiphop but in some cases gangsta rap could be a form of hiphop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>number 22, i wouldn&#8217;t say that gangsta rap is played out like it the only thing messing up hiphop, but it these fake rapper who act like gangsta, but they never live it. i mean you can be real and hardcore in anything, and in many different way with out being fake. but as long as you show how bad you have live it, to the point where you express it. weather it rap or hiphop people would feed in to it and buy it, especially if your good at it too. i mean look at rapper like 50&#8242; the game&#8217; even shyne pope&#8217; who in jail, when those rapper first brought out there album there album sold mill to mill&#8230;&#8230;so i wouldn&#8217;t say gangsta rap is play out, to me it actually the newest form in hiphop that can sell some pretty big unit. not saying that gangsta rap is hiphop but in some cases gangsta rap could be a form of hiphop.</p>
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		<title>By: I aint playin wid em</title>
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		<dc:creator>I aint playin wid em</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cosign #22 kev ..Well said (clap hands)</description>
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		<title>By: white boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>white boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you have certain hiphop fans who wouldn&#039;t even buy a hiphop album, but then they&#039;ll act like they no what a quality album is, when really they don&#039;t no shit about music&#039; hiphop&#039; and lyrics&#039;. then you have some who may have every hiphop album, but still say that hiphop is dead&#039; and still would buy an hiphop album, which sounds pretty  fucks up. i mean in certain cases that shit is supportive, but it also can not be if your also talking shit about hiphop being dead. cuz by being a fan who support hiphop  buying the album and shit like that, but saying that hiphop is dead could also not be supportive. cuz at the same time it bring people back from buying an actual hiphop album, and then you have certain dumby who would buy a soulja boy&#039; album a lil boosie&#039; album and a mims&#039; album. and wonder why hiphop is dead, and why hiphop is not selling. then turn around and call there self a hiphop listener. which to me i look at them as rap listener not hiphop listener, and then  they would give a dumb excuses to why they would buy a rap album before a hiphop album,  and there dumb excuses are that the quality materials from a hiphop album, is not hiphop and is not a quality likable album which is fuck up. cuz to me it seem like rapper have to rap about fake shit in order for fans to like it, but then they wouldn&#039;t mine trashing hiphop and saying that it dead, and then they have the nerve to call thereself real hiphop heads which is a bunch of bullshit. i mean if people really think that some of are hiphop artist, don&#039;t have and show lots of quality music in there album&#039; in order for the fans to appreicate hiphop music. then i wonder what people get out of rap music, cuz it not like there any quality material in rap muisc. but people still listen to rap more then hiphop, but will still say hiphop is dead which is a shame. i think the most important and true purpose of hiphop is the love and unity that us hiphop fans should show, and support to make hiphop a better state of mind. instaed of saying that hiphop is dead, and i think instead of saying hiphop is dead. we should focus on the cultural skills that these hiphop artist has brought to the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you have certain hiphop fans who wouldn&#8217;t even buy a hiphop album, but then they&#8217;ll act like they no what a quality album is, when really they don&#8217;t no shit about music&#8217; hiphop&#8217; and lyrics&#8217;. then you have some who may have every hiphop album, but still say that hiphop is dead&#8217; and still would buy an hiphop album, which sounds pretty  fucks up. i mean in certain cases that shit is supportive, but it also can not be if your also talking shit about hiphop being dead. cuz by being a fan who support hiphop  buying the album and shit like that, but saying that hiphop is dead could also not be supportive. cuz at the same time it bring people back from buying an actual hiphop album, and then you have certain dumby who would buy a soulja boy&#8217; album a lil boosie&#8217; album and a mims&#8217; album. and wonder why hiphop is dead, and why hiphop is not selling. then turn around and call there self a hiphop listener. which to me i look at them as rap listener not hiphop listener, and then  they would give a dumb excuses to why they would buy a rap album before a hiphop album,  and there dumb excuses are that the quality materials from a hiphop album, is not hiphop and is not a quality likable album which is fuck up. cuz to me it seem like rapper have to rap about fake shit in order for fans to like it, but then they wouldn&#8217;t mine trashing hiphop and saying that it dead, and then they have the nerve to call thereself real hiphop heads which is a bunch of bullshit. i mean if people really think that some of are hiphop artist, don&#8217;t have and show lots of quality music in there album&#8217; in order for the fans to appreicate hiphop music. then i wonder what people get out of rap music, cuz it not like there any quality material in rap muisc. but people still listen to rap more then hiphop, but will still say hiphop is dead which is a shame. i think the most important and true purpose of hiphop is the love and unity that us hiphop fans should show, and support to make hiphop a better state of mind. instaed of saying that hiphop is dead, and i think instead of saying hiphop is dead. we should focus on the cultural skills that these hiphop artist has brought to the game.</p>
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		<title>By: kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 01:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>before e say its dead, lets identify wut it is first.hip hop is music..only music , not a lifestyle.. the lifestyle is a reflection of the music. the lifestyle just portrays the most succesful form of the music..if u break the music down further..the music is categorized in gansta rap, political rap,club/party type of rap..romantic/love songs type of rap.. gansta rap is obviously the most popular form of the music..has generated more money, attention and it has influenced the lifestyle more, so much that ppl think that gansta rap is hiphop but its not..gansta rap is now dying obviously its played out and repetetive... before gansta rap there was hip hop and after gansta rap hiphop will live on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before e say its dead, lets identify wut it is first.hip hop is music..only music , not a lifestyle.. the lifestyle is a reflection of the music. the lifestyle just portrays the most succesful form of the music..if u break the music down further..the music is categorized in gansta rap, political rap,club/party type of rap..romantic/love songs type of rap.. gansta rap is obviously the most popular form of the music..has generated more money, attention and it has influenced the lifestyle more, so much that ppl think that gansta rap is hiphop but its not..gansta rap is now dying obviously its played out and repetetive&#8230; before gansta rap there was hip hop and after gansta rap hiphop will live on.</p>
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		<title>By: white boy</title>
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		<dc:creator>white boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 00:11:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rap is what rapper sing and do, but hiphop is what hiphop artist live. so by peolpe saying that hiphop is dead your basically calling your ownself dead, cuz hiphop is what ya support and by ya not supporting hiphop that what make it dead. and that the reason why people calling it and think that  it dead. which if you think about it in certain cases i do think it dying, but i don&#039;t think it dead yet. but i think the reason why hiphop is dying,  cuz there lots of hiphop fans out there who would buy a rap album, before they would buy a hiphop album which is pretty fuck up.but for me when i hear people saying that hiphop is dead, i tell them, then what do you think about rap music. cuz by the way people react to rap music it seem like they pay more good attention, and give more respect and support to rap, then they support hiphop. i mean im so ashame how hip hop fans who would diss hiphop by saying that it dead, i mean i no hiphop wasn&#039;t what it was back in the days. but if people are bumping rap music more then hiphop, and at the same time saying that hiphop is dead. then there obviously a problem with are hiphop fans. and if we keep trashing hiphop by saying it dead, then it only going to get worst instead we should support it. and im sick and tired of hearing that hiphop is dead, especially from the people who don&#039;t support hiphop artist and hiphop itself. i mean people act like it easy to make a hiphop album, when really you have people like common&#039; talib kwali&#039; and mos def&#039;. who would put out a hip hop material album on top of that they would express there true life through hiphop, and people still don&#039;t seem to support them. cuz if they did hiphop would of brought in more money in to the hiphop worldthen rap music. but it seem like rap is doing all the work, by bring in money in to hiphop, which is good but it for a wrong reason. being that people are buying in to rap music then hiphop music. like the same people who went to go buy soulja boy&#039; album lil boosie&#039; album, and all those other rap albums, and would still say hiphop is dead. knowing that you could of bought common&#039; or talib kwali&#039; album, but instead you didn&#039;t then you wonder why hiphop is dead. i mean it seem like people are not making ant sense towards hiphop,they don&#039;t care or support are hiphop artist,but would say that hiphop is dead, but to say that hiphop is dead is wrong especially when you don&#039;t support it, i mean hiphop can&#039;t support itself with out fans. so i think we as hiphop listener should support hiphop and represent it..........hiphop will only live if we support it by supporting are hiphop artist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rap is what rapper sing and do, but hiphop is what hiphop artist live. so by peolpe saying that hiphop is dead your basically calling your ownself dead, cuz hiphop is what ya support and by ya not supporting hiphop that what make it dead. and that the reason why people calling it and think that  it dead. which if you think about it in certain cases i do think it dying, but i don&#8217;t think it dead yet. but i think the reason why hiphop is dying,  cuz there lots of hiphop fans out there who would buy a rap album, before they would buy a hiphop album which is pretty fuck up.but for me when i hear people saying that hiphop is dead, i tell them, then what do you think about rap music. cuz by the way people react to rap music it seem like they pay more good attention, and give more respect and support to rap, then they support hiphop. i mean im so ashame how hip hop fans who would diss hiphop by saying that it dead, i mean i no hiphop wasn&#8217;t what it was back in the days. but if people are bumping rap music more then hiphop, and at the same time saying that hiphop is dead. then there obviously a problem with are hiphop fans. and if we keep trashing hiphop by saying it dead, then it only going to get worst instead we should support it. and im sick and tired of hearing that hiphop is dead, especially from the people who don&#8217;t support hiphop artist and hiphop itself. i mean people act like it easy to make a hiphop album, when really you have people like common&#8217; talib kwali&#8217; and mos def&#8217;. who would put out a hip hop material album on top of that they would express there true life through hiphop, and people still don&#8217;t seem to support them. cuz if they did hiphop would of brought in more money in to the hiphop worldthen rap music. but it seem like rap is doing all the work, by bring in money in to hiphop, which is good but it for a wrong reason. being that people are buying in to rap music then hiphop music. like the same people who went to go buy soulja boy&#8217; album lil boosie&#8217; album, and all those other rap albums, and would still say hiphop is dead. knowing that you could of bought common&#8217; or talib kwali&#8217; album, but instead you didn&#8217;t then you wonder why hiphop is dead. i mean it seem like people are not making ant sense towards hiphop,they don&#8217;t care or support are hiphop artist,but would say that hiphop is dead, but to say that hiphop is dead is wrong especially when you don&#8217;t support it, i mean hiphop can&#8217;t support itself with out fans. so i think we as hiphop listener should support hiphop and represent it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.hiphop will only live if we support it by supporting are hiphop artist.</p>
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		<title>By: Ahijah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ahijah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 19:25:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiphop won&#039;t die it just lacking creativity and niggas get lazy and just loving the love of money. Common but out at classic album IMO,aint listened to Talib Kweli CD yet but I finally got ityesterday and from what I heard its a good album. 50 Cent album got good review &amp; Kayne West album is good for every Soulja Boy,Mims,Sean Kingston there are good artists. Hiphop won&#039;t die people have to get that out of their heads niggas just need to work harder and be more creative. Stop sounding the same ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiphop won&#8217;t die it just lacking creativity and niggas get lazy and just loving the love of money. Common but out at classic album IMO,aint listened to Talib Kweli CD yet but I finally got ityesterday and from what I heard its a good album. 50 Cent album got good review &amp; Kayne West album is good for every Soulja Boy,Mims,Sean Kingston there are good artists. Hiphop won&#8217;t die people have to get that out of their heads niggas just need to work harder and be more creative. Stop sounding the same &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Juicy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juicy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hip hop is so called dead because the icons aint keep that shit going and allowed people to come in and take they spots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hip hop is so called dead because the icons aint keep that shit going and allowed people to come in and take they spots.</p>
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		<title>By: The King</title>
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		<dc:creator>The King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2007 18:32:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hip hop got shot, but sum people out there is performing sum major surgery

i’m gettin sick of the negative comments about “soulja boy” and “chicken noodle soup” type songs. they are not killing hiphop, they didnt come out and act like they were the shit, or the nicest. they make fun music for kids. damn cant the kids have sum shit to dance to. the kids cant listen to 50 cent, they cant watch most videos cuz they all feat. strippers. i dont play that music but i’m sure sum parents would love there kids 4yr bday party to have a soulja boy contest or sumthin fun. let them bubble gum artist live

hip hop starting gettin sick when “real” rappers starting pullin bitch ass publicity stunts and starting fake beef and making subpar albums that got hyped from that fake artist. at one time there was so much real shit droppin we used to cop everything.then sumwhere sum bitch type rappers started to creep in, and we kept buyin. they we realized these rappers are robbing us. we fell for the hype and lost the substance. now the substance aint fuckin wit us no more and barely comes out to play. until we show the substance thats what we want, and show the fake hype bullshit they cant live here, hip hop will be dying slowly</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hip hop got shot, but sum people out there is performing sum major surgery</p>
<p>i’m gettin sick of the negative comments about “soulja boy” and “chicken noodle soup” type songs. they are not killing hiphop, they didnt come out and act like they were the shit, or the nicest. they make fun music for kids. damn cant the kids have sum shit to dance to. the kids cant listen to 50 cent, they cant watch most videos cuz they all feat. strippers. i dont play that music but i’m sure sum parents would love there kids 4yr bday party to have a soulja boy contest or sumthin fun. let them bubble gum artist live</p>
<p>hip hop starting gettin sick when “real” rappers starting pullin bitch ass publicity stunts and starting fake beef and making subpar albums that got hyped from that fake artist. at one time there was so much real shit droppin we used to cop everything.then sumwhere sum bitch type rappers started to creep in, and we kept buyin. they we realized these rappers are robbing us. we fell for the hype and lost the substance. now the substance aint fuckin wit us no more and barely comes out to play. until we show the substance thats what we want, and show the fake hype bullshit they cant live here, hip hop will be dying slowly</p>
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