Comments on: Come Out, Come Out, Wherever You Are. http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/ Latest Music Videos from Rap & R&B, Along with latest Clothes, Sneakers, Movies etc. Tue, 24 Nov 2009 19:26:25 -0500 http://wordpress.org/ hourly 1 By: Killa! http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-2/#comment-126403 Killa! Sun, 14 Oct 2007 06:40:53 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-126403 #17 Your Right on point there! I think we all feel that Shame to help us acknowledge exactly what going on around us. It just taking that feeling and making bad decisions.We either take them the right way or the wrong way. Overall its Love we have and shouldn't be ashamed of. Sometimes people often take that as not keeping it real. #17 Your Right on point there! I think we all feel that Shame to help us acknowledge exactly what going on around us. It just taking that feeling and making bad decisions.We either take them the right way or the wrong way. Overall its Love we have and shouldn’t be ashamed of. Sometimes people often take that as not keeping it real.

]]> By: Cornell Dews http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-2/#comment-125984 Cornell Dews Sat, 13 Oct 2007 15:48:21 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125984 Thank you all for reading my contribution to www.realtalkny.net and for your outstanding comments. Please keep reading. And when you read my contributions to this site, understand that I’m trying to accomplish three goals: inform, provoke thought and initiate dialogue. Again, thank you! In response to the 20th comment left by Mike, you're absolutely right, grammatical errors can ruin quality work. I must admit that my mom pointed that mistake out to me initially and I thought I changed it prior to posting it on this site. No excuses to be made. My bad. Cornell Dews Thank you all for reading my contribution to http://www.realtalkny.net and for your outstanding comments. Please keep reading. And when you read my contributions to this site, understand that I’m trying to accomplish three goals: inform, provoke thought and initiate dialogue. Again, thank you!

In response to the 20th comment left by Mike, you’re absolutely right, grammatical errors can ruin quality work. I must admit that my mom pointed that mistake out to me initially and I thought I changed it prior to posting it on this site. No excuses to be made. My bad.

Cornell Dews

]]> By: lilsony http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-2/#comment-125898 lilsony Sat, 13 Oct 2007 08:32:07 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125898 Reading all of your comments makes me believe that we are not as 'lost' as society thinks we are. We still have very deep-rooted values, and despite some of the disparaging music that a few hip-hop artists may put out, it is not a true reflection of the majority. This is what this post has proved. RealTalk, keep 'em comin. Reading all of your comments makes me believe that we are not as ‘lost’ as society thinks we are. We still have very deep-rooted values, and despite some of the disparaging music that a few hip-hop artists may put out, it is not a true reflection of the majority. This is what this post has proved. RealTalk, keep ‘em comin.

]]> By: jb http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125843 jb Sat, 13 Oct 2007 03:41:34 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125843 this was a great read... smh to #20 that was the dumbest comment of the day...but yea im 18 and i have gangbanged and sold drugs in da past and i have matured as ive gotten older and now seperate myself from wat others do and just do me...so i think bein honest with yoself and honest about wat people around u are doin and how they are influencin u is important on wat kind of mindstate u have... VITAMIN WATER PEOPLE TRY IT... this was a great read… smh to #20 that was the dumbest comment of the day…but yea im 18 and i have gangbanged and sold drugs in da past and i have matured as ive gotten older and now seperate myself from wat others do and just do me…so i think bein honest with yoself and honest about wat people around u are doin and how they are influencin u is important on wat kind of mindstate u have…

VITAMIN WATER PEOPLE TRY IT…

]]> By: DJGX http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125711 DJGX Fri, 12 Oct 2007 22:27:55 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125711 cosign 11 and 21. this is sad tht no1's checkin this out....u always have sumn intellectual to say err now and then mayne,its nice to let people know u can listen to rap and be intellectual without having to hide it. cosign 11 and 21.

this is sad tht no1’s checkin this out….u always have sumn intellectual to say err now and then mayne,its nice to let people know u can listen to rap and be intellectual without having to hide it.

]]> By: Trebonique http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125616 Trebonique Fri, 12 Oct 2007 20:11:31 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125616 This is a well thought out topic... The problem of shame comes in all shapes and forms from "keeping it real" to "My Nigga".. I read all of the post and thought that everyone had a great opinion on what they believed the meaning of shame is. I always thought shame equaled embarrassment. Children do not get embarrassed anymore because everything is acceptable. Mike should be ashamed and embarrassed by the comment he made in reference to someone posting Were instead of Where. Little things count. How do you teach the new generation if the older generation acts as youthful as they? Show yours intelligence by posting something like-minded to Mr. Cornell post. Don't berate someone-else’s message and not make a comment of your own. What you did is another sign of blissful ignorance. So many African-American walk around with blinders on and do not think of the impact any word or action has on our entire communities. When I was a child my neighbors would tell my mother everything my sisters and I did throughout the day (if they believed it was damaging or disrespectful). Today, If I attempted to communicate the ill-behavior of a child to their parents I don't know what repercussions would arise. So we take our chances but this behavior should not exist. That is "Shameful" and embarrassing because many of the parents are trying to "Keep it Real" with their children. I can go on and on but I am getting to deep on my B-Day. So peace all and have a blessed day This is a well thought out topic…

The problem of shame comes in all shapes and forms from “keeping it real” to “My Nigga”..

I read all of the post and thought that everyone had a great opinion on what they believed the meaning of shame is. I always thought shame equaled embarrassment. Children do not get embarrassed anymore because everything is acceptable.

Mike should be ashamed and embarrassed by the comment he made in reference to someone posting Were instead of Where. Little things count. How do you teach the new generation if the older generation acts as youthful as they? Show yours intelligence by posting something like-minded to Mr. Cornell post. Don’t berate someone-else’s message and not make a comment of your own. What you did is another sign of blissful ignorance. So many African-American walk around with blinders on and do not think of the impact any word or action has on our entire communities.

When I was a child my neighbors would tell my mother everything my sisters and I did throughout the day (if they believed it was damaging or disrespectful). Today, If I attempted to communicate the ill-behavior of a child to their parents I don’t know what repercussions would arise. So we take our chances but this behavior should not exist.
That is “Shameful” and embarrassing because many of the parents are trying to “Keep it Real” with their children.

I can go on and on but I am getting to deep on my B-Day.

So peace all and have a blessed day

]]> By: Juicy http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125541 Juicy Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:48:09 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125541 mike, that was lame fam, real lame. mike, that was lame fam, real lame.

]]> By: Duane http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125524 Duane Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:04:21 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125524 I am truly feeling this conversation you had with your mom. Wow, I wish that this could be broadcasted on every radio, tv, and internet medium available from the hood to the fortune 500 boardrooms. Somehow & someway we have to wake up those who are dead men/women living from day to day in the prisons, hoods, suburbs, churches, mosques, etc. The revolution will not be televised, because those who continue to oppress and depress us have us right where they want us. I am truly feeling this conversation you had with your mom. Wow, I wish that this could be broadcasted on every radio, tv, and internet medium available from the hood to the fortune 500 boardrooms. Somehow & someway we have to wake up those who are dead men/women living from day to day in the prisons, hoods, suburbs, churches, mosques, etc. The revolution will not be televised, because those who continue to oppress and depress us have us right where they want us.

]]> By: mike http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125521 mike Fri, 12 Oct 2007 18:00:52 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125521 please SPELL CHECK and copy edit these... you used "were" instead of "where" in the very first sentence so it really really distracted me from what might have been a very intellegent opinion sorry. please SPELL CHECK and copy edit these…

you used “were” instead of “where” in the very first sentence

so it really really distracted me from what might have been a very intellegent opinion

sorry.

]]> By: Face Value http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/comment-page-1/#comment-125512 Face Value Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:43:04 +0000 http://realtalkny.uproxx.com/2007/10/topic/topic/editorial/come-out-come-out-wherever-you-are/#comment-125512 these are all valid points. but i don't believe you should dismiss shame as a focal point for acting upright, because it was all we knew back then to regulate our behavior. Perhaps guilt is the word youre looking for, because shame is a self-sense of guilt. Guilt makes one feel inadequate in other's eyes, and may not force a change. Being young I remember teacher's and elder family members making me pull up my pants. I did not want to be seen smoking in front of elders, even though they knew i smoked. It was that sense of shame that made me hide these things, rather than "keep it real". It may not have been powerful enough to make me stop being so ignorant, but i never accepted my status as the proper thing to do, and as a grew older i turned over my bad habits, knowing there was a greater community influenced by its people's actions. In reference to rappers, a lot of them actually do own real estate, businesses, property, and stocks. They dont give off that image because they wouldn't sell records if they did, for instance Jay Z coming under fire for writing 30s the new 20 having good credit. Human beings are self-motivated individuals, and for the most part do not like seeing the world advance while theyre still struggling...so...a rapper who "keeps it real...poor" is their hero. Thats about it. these are all valid points. but i don’t believe you should dismiss shame as a focal point for acting upright, because it was all we knew back then to regulate our behavior. Perhaps guilt is the word youre looking for, because shame is a self-sense of guilt. Guilt makes one feel inadequate in other’s eyes, and may not force a change. Being young I remember teacher’s and elder family members making me pull up my pants. I did not want to be seen smoking in front of elders, even though they knew i smoked. It was that sense of shame that made me hide these things, rather than “keep it real”. It may not have been powerful enough to make me stop being so ignorant, but i never accepted my status as the proper thing to do, and as a grew older i turned over my bad habits, knowing there was a greater community influenced by its people’s actions. In reference to rappers, a lot of them actually do own real estate, businesses, property, and stocks. They dont give off that image because they wouldn’t sell records if they did, for instance Jay Z coming under fire for writing 30s the new 20 having good credit. Human beings are self-motivated individuals, and for the most part do not like seeing the world advance while theyre still struggling…so…a rapper who “keeps it real…poor” is their hero. Thats about it.

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