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September 14, 2007

Is It True That Nice Guys Finish Last?

A wise man once told me, “As a man, you have to die once in order to live.” I never fully appreciated his advice, nor did I understand it until I experienced it firsthand. From that time on, I understood the origins of the Jerk vs. Nice Guy battle.

Readers may be asking themselves, “What in the world is this guy talking about?” Well, I’m referring to the widely known fact that women habitually date men that are jerks while the “nice” guys are often left twiddling their thumbs in solitaire. Does this sound familiar to anyone?

Figuratively speaking, in order for a man to enjoy the company of women and be able to seduce them, his inner nice guy must first die through heartache. It is at this point that his inner bad boy surfaces and goes on the prowl.

Any man that has experienced true love, only to have his heart crushed by the woman that he thought he would spend his life with, will understand what I am talking about. A man that has never experienced the heartache of being burned by the one person he really trusted probably won’t understand my commentary. In any case, it is important to understand why nice guys finish last and why they probably always will.

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Well I was looking for a break from the Kanye/50 Cent posts and stumbled upon this article online. What the article states is so true I had to make a post about it. I’m not generalizing all women, but a decent share like to be treated like trash from my experiences and from what I’ve seen. I guess they like drama or they just have issues, but a woman is more likely to stay in a long term relationship with a guy that’s a jerk. I guess a woman’s ideal situation is to get a jerk and change him, which is rarely the end result. Yet woman will still complain about those jerks to the, “nice guys.”

No, I’m not one of those, “nice guys,” that the article talks about, I’m too smart for that. But I just seem to care about certain things more than the average man. Never had it in me just to tap for the sake of it. While I’ve never been in love, I may be at the point where the article states, “As a man, you have to die once in order to live.” Seems like caring about people tends to be a waste of time in the long run. So what is a man to do, try to be nice and risk getting played or just become a jerk and run through mad chicks? With being nice you open yourself up to get hurt. With being a jerk you lack a real connection to anyone and things just get meaningless after a while.

So, for the guys, what is your philosophy on women?

And to the ladies what are your thoughts on the article?

Too many bitches wanna be ladies, so if you a hoe
I’ma call you a hoe, too many bitches are shady
Too many ladies give these niggaz too many chances
Too many brothers wannabe lovers don’t know what romance is
Too many bitches stuck up from too many sexual advances
- Jay-Z

98 Comments so far

1.
DUNDUNDUUUN wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:51 pm

MY FILOSOFEE ON WOMEN IS:IF YOUR THICK I HIT.

2.
RealTalkNY wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:52 pm

Interesting lol, how old are you?

3.
M.Dolla wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pm

To Me its all about instinct..Dont trust a bitch as far as u can throw them..all girls are not shady just like all niggaz aint shady. 1st BITCHES

4.
2cents wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:55 pm

I can not wait to see what kinda mess gets posted here.

But this is in agreement with my beliefs, I always tell females they are mad at 18-25 yrs of age about men who won’t settle down but they fail to realize how they broke our hearts and fantasies when we were like 6-10 and had pure love for all women. Now after that all we wanna do is get it in and they have already done some to most their dirt by then so they wanna settle down… what an inverse relationship.

5.
That Guy wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:57 pm

22 2s Nucca

6.
DUNDUNDUUUN wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pm

OVER 18,UNDER 21!!!!!

7.
M.Dolla wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 6:58 pm

#1 I like dat philosophy(spellcheck)

8.
Broadway wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:00 pm

Women love drama, they love the emotional roller coasters that they go through, it has to do with their estrogen levels. When i a guy beats on a girl, she justify it by saying thats how much he cares, love, me…

My philosophy on women is, i don’t feed their head wit any bullshit, i don’t complement them, don’t say i love you, i keep it real funky… we go out once, nice dinner, take her ass home, next date is a movie, bar for drinks and then the crib… “Can I beat”… thats’ it… Alot of dudes got diarhea of the mouth, they feed gilrs mad nonsense they don’t even mean and remember they said, stop gassing these chicks.

9.
Broadway wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:02 pm

Damn its a friday, no work tomorrow, i need a freak in the crib soon, Clubs in NYC is wack on weekends to many wack chicks from the boondocks…

10.
Emissary wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:09 pm

and you can’t tell just who you are//
you buy new cloths just to hide those scars//
you put up that roof just to hide those stars//
now you can’t take it back to the start//
-Lupe Fiasco

11.
BLACK wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:15 pm

I FEEL WHAT THE ARTICLE STATES.IT HAS VALID POINTS BUT WHAT ABOUT THE PERSON IN BETWEEN WHO IS NOT A NICE GUY BUT ALSO NOT A JERK.AND NUMBER 14 WHAT THE NAME OF THE LUPE SONG YOU GOT THEM BARS FROM.

12.
T2 wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:16 pm

I just be myself you may find the right women you may not but to be honest I have never thought about it like that I don’t know how I come accross to a women only they know! LOL

I’ve really liked and cared for girls i’ve been out with but I couldn’t say I was truly in love with them cus there is a big difference. So I have not got to that stage in my life yet.

It will be interesting to here people on this sites stories if they have been in that situation (hopefully it will stay constructive).

13.
island princess wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:34 pm

i like nice guys…………not jerks…….
What about the guys who like the girls who wear the short skirts all the time ….the girls who always grind in the clubs?? The girl who has a tongue ring who carries on like she’s to good for the guy and “the only way to say you love her is with a dozen roses”?

i do understand what the article says and i know it’s true but guys aren’t the only ones who throw them selves out there only to get hurt

14.
Emissary wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:51 pm

it’s weird this only got 14 comments so far………guess it shows what type of niggas we got on this site lol

15.
Rapalot wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:52 pm

All depends on the girl..some girls r smart enough to know that jerks lead em nowhere..but most girls r not

Me, I have been in love and crushed lol so I can b a jerk haha but I can also b very nice to the right girl..who im talkin to right now lol

16.
$heek wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 7:54 pm

Maaaaan..Bitches aint shit but hoes N tricks tell em lick on tha nuts and suck a dick..this is for girls in tha (18-21 range)..Dats realtalk 4 ya cuz they play maad games in tha long run no matter if u a good nigga or a jerk.. I learned that shit a while ago, its hard as hell 2 find wifey out here cuz its too much emotions wit them..Thats why its best to pipe ass much as u can and give bitches tha icebox cuz if u dont u gona end up gettin hurt in tha long run..

17.
FA$Hi0Ni$TA wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:00 pm

It is true that a lot of females want a jerk. I’ve seen it too many times. BUT there are also those women out there who are smart, and know that a nice guy is a better choice. Now there is a difference between a NICE guy and a PUNK. I dont want a dude who does what ever i want him to, or a man that will let me wear the pants in the relationship. I want a man that is happy and accepting of a relationship where all roles and decisions are 50/50.

“A rude boy thats good to me with street credibility”

18.
Rapalot wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:01 pm

#16 said it right LMAO!

19.
BUSHWICK PURE wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:03 pm

MAN NIGGA LIKE 50 SAID, HAVE A BABY BY ME BABY, WHO THE HELL CARES!! WE DON LOVE THESE HOESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

20.
Emissary wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:08 pm

17 did you just bring destiny child lyrics into this LMAO!!!!

21.
BRYCE wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:10 pm

THIS DOESN’t APPLY TO MEE AT ALL YAAL CAUSE I DO HAVE A TRUE LOVE Loolz good luck

22.
stefan wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:12 pm

i agree with this cuz i went to a college today…just to bag some chicks…n i did…and i fucked them the same day… i mean im a nice guy but u gotta do what u gotta go

btw St John University in Queens, Ny

23.
FA$Hi0Ni$TA wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:13 pm

#19
yessss i did! LMAO
It speaks for the masses(women) in a corny kind of way. I guess.

24.
Emissary wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:13 pm

shit is fucked up idk but alot of black men is jumping ship with black women for them white islands….shit i ain’t got nothing agaisn’t white girls and they starting to develop ass too.

ICE-T white woman COCO(LMAO AT HER NAME) is a BAD ONE

25.
Emissary wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:26 pm

Level 2 is elementary stages-Nashawn//The first thing a slave learned in this country’s amazing-Nas//They seperated the families on every plantation-Nashawn//Feinding for that black pussy slave master’s chasing-Nas//Chasing the women like they chicken feet-Nashawn//Violatin’and raping em rip they cloths off let they niggas see-Nashawn//And thats the start off the first black pimp’s history-Nas//Told his queen if they wanna fuck make em’ pay a fee-Nashawn//
-Nas & Nashawn

26.
blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:39 pm

n im just sayin it cuz honestly was the jay z quote neccasary ….hell naw u alway quotin that niga damn

27.
Jermain aka States wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 8:52 pm

A!

Real Talk NY TRUE FUCKIN STORY

I hear what you sayin dog…I got my fuckin heart broke by this bitch…Ever since I aint neva been serious witt a shorty…I got LoveHater Tatted on my chest and i tell all bitches Il Love u But I Wont B In Love Wit u…And its weird…Cuz so many chicks done told me they loved me since then…But I neva really got into it…Cuz where they all at now u know…They so called love me but they alllll with other niggas now…I tell u bitches misuse that word so much…So U Already know what it is

LOVES 4 SUCKAZZZ

28.
T Taverniti wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 9:14 pm

i think chicks do it because they want a challenge.
they talk all that, “i want a good man” shit.
but that gets boring to them.
they want somebody they can mold and change and shit like that.

i tell chicks all the time, “nothin will come from our relationship, im not lookin to get serious with you, blah blah blah”.
basically lettin them know that im just trying to hit.
they still go thru wit dealing with me, with aspirations of changing my ways.

thats why chicks date bad guys, cause they want a challenge.
nice guys are too easy.

29.
2cents wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 9:15 pm

lets not focus on the few smart girls (or guys) and focus on the topic which is the girl’s (seemingly the majority) who love being with less than “chivalrous” dudes…lol

@ 13 (island princess)
What about the guys who like the girls who wear the short skirts all the time (most those dudes jus wanna fck)….the girls who always grind in the clubs?? (DITTO) The girl who has a tongue ring who carries on like she’s to good for the guy and “the only way to say you love her is with a dozen roses”? (ditto and if he gives he flowers he’s falling into the nice guy SIMP zone!)

If you base your judgement on this points rather then character then you get what you deserve, understand when you’re jus gettin your rocks off versus exploring a serious relationship.

@ # 17(fashionista) good point about the punk versus nice thing but if a man will give you what you want why is he a punk?

@ #24 (Emissary) How did you get to interracial dating?

@ #26 (j a.k.a. states) THATS REAL TALK… minus the tat my story is pretty much the same… put faith in a chick she try to get over get caught then the Monster is released. I tell females I love everyone, but to be in love is crazy elusive. And the over use of the word love is retarted!

“LOVE’S GONNA GETCHA!”

30.
Style_101 wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 9:23 pm

FACT:you must transform yourself into a badboy to get the fine chicks that you want!

you might get lucky or get a UG(ugly girl)if you are “nice” but in the long run you will only end up as a friend n never bed them

RTNY holla at me i got something that will change this around…i know it changed my life

31.
sweetdickwilly wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 9:34 pm

LOVE= LEG OPEN VERY EASILY

WORD UP ONCE U TELL A BITCH YOU LOVED HER U GETTIN IN THEM DRAWS ASAP SOO WHICH IS WHY I DONT FUCKEN USED THAT WORD LOVE. NOR IM IN LOVE W/ YOU. THE ONLY FEMALE I LOVE WITH ALL MY HEART IS MY MOTHER AND FOR ANOTHER GIRL TO GET UP THERE IT WILL TAKE YEARS EVEN AGES…

BUT PPL ON THIS SITE STOP BEING IGNORANT AND STAY WITHIN THE TOPIC YALL BUNCH OF ABSURD PPL

32.
RealTalkCA wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 10:38 pm

what the fuck is this bullshit….?

33.
theone wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 11:07 pm

THATS MY NIGGA $heek AMEN

34.
Jermain aka States wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 11:08 pm

Styles 101 … What u talkin about??? I wanna know

And 2cents…I only got the tat Cuz i take that lovehating shit seriously….I aint neva plannin 2 fall in love wid no chick ANY TIME SooN ..2 Tell u da Truth I Neva Want 2…Cuz Dont Think ITs only the young ppl cheatin and playin games..My mommaz Fuckin Old Ass Friends ALLL cheat on they husbands So thats there 2 remind me how chicks did me dirty and not 2 fall…I mean some day I MIGHT have a wife…And Kids…And Yea Il Love Her…But the Tatt Represents a Hate I Have Towards Love Itself And what it did 2 me…And How Much I Hate IT And what it could do 2 a man if u kno it hits u the rong way cuz i dont give a fuck what no 1 say Love Feels FUCKIN good 2 Be in…But Heartbreak Has a Greater Effect And Last Longer On a Nigga So I Rather Avoid It Ya Digg..Iz like Takin Crack Might Feel GOOD 2 The PErson That Take It…But In The Long RUN…You Turn into a Fuckin CRACKHEAD and that shit is not good for ya insides…Jus my view..IM DONE

35.
theone wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 11:11 pm

….Oh yeah fuck a bitch these hoes dont appreciate shit. A nigga could give her the world and a bitch will do some fuck up shit to fuck up your head. ICE COLD

36.
2cents wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 11:21 pm

@ States… HEARD YOU.. don’t focus on the tat part, I’m not a tat man at all. But I hear and agree wit it all.

The thing to me is while men run around and keep a woman’s secret for the sake of his nutts a woman gets hers and has a conference… so while men keep quiet about the side shows the women put men on blast about them like we the only one’s cheating creating a false perspective that then gives them an excuse to cheat like thay hadn’t been doin it all along.

37.
turkishjamaican wrote on September 14th, 2007 at 11:36 pm

been there done that to tha nastiest but now happily married and confident…i kno the game the falls the ups .. i am confident in my husband/dad role rela men do real things!

38.
Flippin-Saint wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 12:10 am

I don’t know bout that, im never a jerk to ladies I like, and the ladies im nice to appreciate it, but the ladies I do treat like bitches stiiill wanna conversate

39.
jb wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 1:19 am

ITS LIKE THIS LOVE FOR TEENAGERS IS NOT REALSO KEEP YO MIND ON YO MONEY AND DONT TRUST NO BITCH CUZ MOST OF THESE HOES IS GOLDIGGERS AND TRY TO PLAY HARD TO GET UNTIL U START KISSIN THEY NECKS I TELL BITCHES STRAIGHT UP U GOTTA BE BENEFICIAL TO ME HAVE A CAR AND PICK ME UP,HAVE YO SPOT AND IF I NEED TO STAY THERE OR WANNA COME OVA LET ME, HAVE A JOB AND LET ME HAVE SOME MONEY WEN I NEED IT, OR LET ME FUCK, IF I FALL IN LOVE THEN LET IT HAPPEN BUT UNTIL THEN BUSINESS IS BUSINESS YA DIG…

40.
S.MC wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 1:25 am

most of yall niggas are right about these bitches. but we all gone fall in love one day thatz just life u gon find that girl u love and she might break ur heart but if u have hate in ur heart itz just gon ruin the rest of ya life and u might find ya wifey and be treatin her like a straight up smut just cuz of the old bitch. this bitch jus made me fall n love wit her only to go back to her ex that shit hurt me like hell but i kno if i hate her thatz jus gon fuck my shit up wit otha bitches so to all my niggaz jus be careful and dont jus say fuck ALL bitches

41.
honest4all wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 2:51 am

no…cuz in the long run the nice guy will get the good woman…and the knuckle head BOY will get the BiTch

42.
50centgarbage wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 3:50 am

Hmm. I’m a young lady, I have chilled with guys but I never had a boyfriend or been in love. I’m considered nice by a lot of people, but I’ll admit, I do like bad boys but I’m getting over that. I remember this dude who was a hoe and NO ONE wanted me to like him, they said I was too good for him. But he was cute and he was nice to me, well at the end of it all, I looked stupid. I think some girls like bad boys because of the challenge and roller coast rides, and nice guys, they don’t have that. But guess what, we usually end up marrying them. And some of you saying that all women are bithes or hoes, you must be talking about your mother if you have that type of mentality. Not all men are dogs and not all women are hoes. Me I’m nice and attractive but at the same time, my mentality is fu** men, if one tries to hurt me or play games, for me he can be replaced. Peace out.

43.
UDG wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 4:30 am

That article writer got it twisted. I’ll break it down for everybody. The jerk types are more likely to be Alpha male leaders that dont get pushed around by the world. Women want that kinda protection, and to pass these traits on to their seed. It’s a law of survival to seek out the best. Women can literally smell if you a puss or a go getta. This must be why I ran thru so many chix in my life. You gotta have that balance. Be vulnerable, cry, be in love. Chick gets too comfy, tell her sit the fuck down. She try to play you, lock it tha fuck up. Let a chick know that on one hand, she is important to you. Yet on the other hand she can be replaced. Every woman has her limit though. Win some lose some, but git the fuck back up!!! I got extra game for sale over here, getcha game here!!!!

44.
T Taverniti wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 5:24 am

fuck the jerk role and the nice guy role.

the mysterious role gets the most pussy.
bitches wanna kno about you, they get real curious.
and when you not letting them get close, they want to get closer, by any means. they wanna know how you feel and all that.
they wanna kno whats goin on in ur head.
they want the challenge of breakin the wall down.
but my shit is not the berlin wall, its more like the great wall of china. that shit not coming down.

45.
S.MC wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 6:14 am

^^^^^^^ I fucks wit u udg

46.
xoxo91 wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 6:25 am

i think it depends on the girl. she can be jus as bad as the guy. but if shes a nice girl then she kno better that gettin with sum next dude. i been with this guy for 3 years and we still young but before we were together i knew he been around and he was a jerk but the more i talked to him the more i realized that he ryl aint that bad soo now more than ever i beileve in us, and i kno he does too. soo my point its the girl who decides if it the jerk or the nice guy.

47.
T Taverniti wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 6:37 am

i mean, seriously, how can a 15 or 16 yr old even engage in this discussion?

48.
100% wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 8:36 am

well thats the truth, men learn these lessons from highschool, but good article I appreciate you sharing that article with us,

49.
BlackIce wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 8:43 am

most women really don’t know what they want in a man so you have to have a balance of being that “nice guy” sometimes & being the “jerk” at other times. It’s hard for us to figure out what women want when they really don’t know what they want so we have to find a balance ……….

50.
nasahlon wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 8:52 am

girls like guys that are straight tryin to fuck them, an nice guys dont do that, so they do finish last.

51.
Tonythetiger wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 8:58 am

Lol @ #31 sweetdwilly

LOVE= Legs open very easily, thats about to be my official philosophy. Ha.

52.
chibixleon wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 8:58 am

Same situation happened to me like the article said, this girl, thought i was going to spend the rest of my life with her just dropped me like its hot LOL I’ve learned a lot since then, balance is the key… you gotta know when to be mean when to be nice.

I’d say be the badboy when you’re going out with her the first few times. Once she’s your girlfriend then you bring out the nice guy.

53.
wow! wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 9:09 am

Treat em bad; Keep em sad!

54.
KOOLKEV wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 9:17 am

I SO AGREE WITH THIS ARTICLE…THATS WHY IM A JERK NOW TO EVERY JOINT I MEET.

55.
Southern Sovreign wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 9:42 am

co-sign #34 and #39 to the fullest.

This post brings back memories. I remember being burned and going through the heart ache and began really asking myself is it worth it. so i know what the fucks goes on and how grimey some bitches can be.
I think niggas have to realize that most(not all) broads are oppurtunists and when a newer better model nigga comes out yo ass is definitely gettin traded in. Thats why i treat bitches like mushrooms. FEED EM SHIT AND KEEP EM IN THE DARK.

56.
KOOLKEV wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 9:57 am

yo its crazy how almost all of us went thru this shyt and its like either way u dont win..i just suggest get ya nutt and get the fuck outta there..

“Can’t believe I almost flew the coop for some stupid whore
You used to say all you wanted was for me to be yours
All I ever wanted from you was a few booty calls”
Eminem

57.
mexkn to women wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 10:09 am

Most girls when they’re young and dating, they chose the best guy they can get and that guy just becomes a commodity, something they wear to show off to her girlfriends or to people in general.
Meanwhile, they are waiting for their true love to come along(prince charming i shall say). Someone who is perfect. Like the type of guys you see in hollywood movies(i hate that shit). Someone you can grow old
gracefully with.

Sure, you know other girls think the same way and there are only so many perfect guys to go around, but never mind that. You are convinced that you will be the one girl who can pull it off. After all, there’s something special about you.

And then one day, reality hits ya right on the forehead. You find that you are old and most of your girlfriends are already hitched. So you get desperate and you go for the first guy available and most likely its some loser or if you’re lucky, he’s halfway decent.

If only you had accepted reality sooner and didn’t ignore or lead on that guy who wasn’t so physically impressive or who didn’t act like an ASSHOLE or who was kind of wimpy or who didn’t look very confident and dashing, that guy might have been your knight in shining armor. He could have been the perfect man to grow old with and to care for you and love you and be a great father for your children.
Somehow im glad i didn’t grew up with my father. He was and is such an Asshole, anyways..moving on….

But you kicked that guy in the balls and now you’re stuck with a fat loser with a huge gut who stinks up the bathroom every morning and who crushes you when you’re having sex in the sack together….and uh…well. sadly
That’s the way it is.

Take a Second Look
Consider any unattached guys at your school or job, or even the sons of your parents’ friends. Maybe you think you’re already considered everyone, but think again! Open your mind to guys you already know, but might have overlooked for shallow reasons, such as a lame fashion style, physical appearance etc…

Stop asking for guys who aren’t liars, deceivers, assholes and all the bad terms you can ever think off. Stop lying to urselves

I think that nice guys do finish last but good things come to those who wait.
peaace.

58.
Logic wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 11:49 am

Yal should check out this movie called the diary of a tired black man . Its kind of a documentary . It talks about the drama women give to even the good brothers …

59.
r denny wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 12:12 pm

will someone write a summary of what the guy above me wrote …damn, but ye/// from snoop to 50cent they alll play the game right, fuck em and dump em, no emotions, the emotions r gone after old girl killed it, snoop said it best…”we dont love dem hoes” but we sure as hell fuck em and keep em around.

60.
realest wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 12:13 pm

we dont love dem hoes. as mac 10 said being a pimp is the easiest thing to be, no emotions involved

61.
crazy/beautiful wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 12:27 pm

Well im a female and i feel for some of the guys on here, specially for those who say they fell in love with the girl and got their heart broken. Im a bit like really can guys really fall in love too. thats what ive been asking myself recently to be honest.

The badboys can be tempting i must admit but that only works in the beginning cause their jerksides is too much after a while and we cant take it anymore to be honest. we dump them. the nice guys are good and do get attractive girls aswell and they are usualy the ones we marry in the end as one female posted early. This is my reality.

I have never said to a man I love him and I have never asked a man if he loves me. I believe that when a man loves you he will say it…if you ask him and he says yes…I recon he is lying.

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Whateva... wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 12:38 pm

Women are often attracted to strength & power. By nature women have a inner desire to be protected. Unfortunately, many women (or girls/females i should say) get involved before their minds have become developed. Therefore, they are incapable of understanding what true strength is. They often think the dude with the loudest bark, which can often be seen in the jerk personality, is the ultimate protector but this really isn’t true. If she’s really mentally underdeveloped sometimes she may even think the nice guy is weak. Of course that’s not an imprint of truth either. I know plenty of nice guys that would put a cap in somones a** if you f*** with them.

The excitement factor that the article spoke of is really true as well. Women are often turned on by the thrill that a “bad guy” can offer. So of course the curiosity will often take hold. Unfortunately, curiosity will always kill that kat. Then from there it is usually just a downward spiral. I say this because once she gets with the “bad guy” her so called wants (the thrill) usually won’t yield the outcome she expected (love/happily ever after crap). So essentially, she gets hurt.

From there the all men are dogs theory takes control of her continued underdeveloped mind. Then it turns to I don’t need a man… I’m so independent blah blah blah… (not to be confused with the self-sufficient ladies because self-sufficient is a great quality). Then that fake independent ladies attitude turns into a sort of hardening of the heart or in essence stepping outside of a woman’s true nature. So really she can’t even recognize a “nice” guy at this point. And when she encounters him she’ll just take advantage and move on. I say this because, at this point she’s so full of needing to have some type of drama to excite her, that quality relationship the so called “nice” guy can offer isn’t enough.

There’s a whole bunch of other reasons that come into play. One of the other problems is that many females never have/had an example of how a female is supposed to be treated in he first place. So that’s a big problem because many don’t even know what to look for and when they come across it… they don’t understand that it’s a commodity they should appreciate, value, and hold on to.

The important thing to know is all women aren’t like that. There are females who are balanced and developed and ready for the good dudes.

The ironic thing is this same type of cycle can be seen in men. People get hurt and then they put up their emotional walls of defenses that’s just it. It’s like a damn emotional survival tactic in a way. Like, I’ll hurt you before you hurt me.

For me. I need someone that’s adaptable to all walks of life much like myself. So I don’t look for the status quo “nice” guy. Nor do I look for the status quo “Bad” Guy. It’s all about being balanced and wanting/attracting a balanced individual.

I really don’t think any one side is to blame. In terms of like bad/good men vs bad/good women type thing. I think often when people get into the cycle of bad relationships they tend to never take accountability for the part they played. I don’t believe you can have someone that was so perfect for you then all of a sudden they magically turn into a HOE. A HOE IS HOE AND WILL ALWAYS BE A HOE. And you can’t be “in love” with the hoes. I think what happens with human nature in general is that, people are usually just content or satisfied with that lil teeny bit of happiness that someone can give them then they go calling it love. I think the whole love thing is really subjective. I think in most cases when a relationship is over (after the hurt feelings subside) if you look back you realize that person wasn’t the one for you in the first place.

I think if you’re going to deal with people in the relationship sense you have to develop yourself to the point that you’re able to read people. I just try to figure out people’s intentions from the get go. When I meet a guy somewhere in the back of my mind is always the thought…. “Okay that’s skip all the bull and just tell me WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU REALLY WANT FROM ME???” lol. Unfortunately, people won’t come out and just tell you so you have to become a good judge of character and figure it out for yourself. This means you have to keep weeding people out until you get to what you want and need. Which really boils down to the same thing mexkn to women just said… the whole good things come to those who wait. So true.

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Emissary wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 4:26 pm

mexkn to women that shit you type should be sent to EVERY BITCH inbox on myspace and every place else that shit is the gospel!!!!!!!!!!

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Emissary wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 4:52 pm

fuck it yo mexkn to women i’m about to blog it!

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2cents wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 5:32 pm

@ 42 (50centgarbage) !st of well stated and the points are appreciated. BUT why would a nice guy wanna marry a woman who been ran through by all the bad boys and now wants to settle down?

That is an issue for me (quasi bad boy but naturally a nice guy) As I got older after all my hustlin/playa friends done ran through mad broads those same chicks and they’re counterparts start lookin at me like “you’re working and have some what of a foundation so I wanna move in your direction now”. At that point that nice guy (if smart) soesn’t want that used up chick… so the solitude continues for the nice guy…

I like (UDG) #43 and #44 (T. Taverniti) ’s postd too… different perspectives!

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Anon wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 6:48 pm

LMFAO!! Nigga said “FILOSOFEE”

67.
DJ GX wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 6:54 pm

i cannot lie….i didn’t get thiz shii at all lmao

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50centgarbage wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 7:14 pm

@ 2 cents, I’m under 21 and I only have 1 had sexual partner, I actually recentl lost my virginity. So I hoipe you’re not talking about me, LOL. It’s interesting to hear everyone’s perspevtive, especially the ones that think females are good for fuc*in. I can only think that you guys have been hurt or maybe your mom was a whore, and you think that’s how women should be or in actuality, that’s the way they are. I think a lot of us in here, even me generalize too much. We need to judge one another on a individual basis rather than group. People consider me attractive and nice, and yet I don’t play guys or am a hoe. I even had guys who wanted to just give me money and material items,but I never was fased by that. Looks matter but only to a certain degre, personality is important. So yet again…stop generalizing. Also those that think women are only good for sex, so your going to keep getting around, that’s it? You don’t want to be in/experience love, commitment, loyalty,compassion, just a fuck? Then it just show that your grimey like the bitches you fuck.

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Rapalot wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 7:46 pm

@64 DJ GX…How did u not get it?

Is it true that women go for jerks due to the hope of turning them into nice guys? and still get treated bad by the jerks and complain to nice guys

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UDG wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 9:09 pm

From #66 on…. 65 comments before yall mean somebody talking about the topic.. This is just real talk too. Act like a niggaz aint never felt love, wtf, how long yall gon try to seem hard and above natural human emotions. Damn, come on the blog to say you too hard to blog. Back to the block>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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SPOCK wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 10:43 pm

I am above “natural human emotions”.

72.
SPOCK wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 10:47 pm

Except for that emotion that gives me a boner. I was expecting to feel that emotion tonight, but Mr. RealtalkNY decided not to post the Vixen.

73.
pedro navajas wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 11:31 pm

now adays the girls just wanna fuck you and your friend
they just want some good dick dats it

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GOD is good wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 11:36 pm

I don’t think everyone should use this article to generalize everyone else if you understand. For me, I think the place to find the right chick is in a good church or something.

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Crazy wrote on September 15th, 2007 at 11:50 pm

I’m Surprise this topic actually came up on here

Truest comments you ever gonna read

Bitches don’t want a man that treat them like a queen and respect them cause they will get bored and say a nigga soft.

But they will respect a nigga more when they are getting cheated on , beaten on and treated like shit.And still have the nerve to call a nigga DADDY.

Honestly i seen alot of good dudes lose woman to losers that don’t deserve a woman at all. But hey do you wonder why niggas is turning gay and woman are going lezbo.

I really think yall bitches need more hugs from daddy when yall was younger…PLAIN AND SIMPLE

As for 50 and Kanye …50 isn’t really a bad guy. He just speak his mind and people confuse it for foolishness.Can you blame him for being pissed for losing…HE IS HUMAN. Of course he gonna talk shit. It is what people do when they lose most of the time.It really motivates them to better next time.

Somehow , someway people take kanye side but he complains about losing awards. He is doing the same thing 50 doing.

At the end it is a HUMAN EMOTION that drives these comments.But since one person is a former drug dealer and the other person is a former college student who you think the media is going to praise more?

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Off Topic!! wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 12:03 am

Black girls are crazy!!! You see a lot act hard and stank, to scare the Soft guys away(Nice Guy) but when you get to know them these Bitches are Lost, Sad, Hurt and Lonely for real.

I’m not tryna play the Sista, I’m not one of those I got play by so many girl so I hate all black women. Naw I love ya female but ya crazy!

Female complain there no good man, but when ya find him ya quick to tryna change a nigga. I can be all that in the bed, but if I’m missing something else (swag, money, look) ya wanna tell ya friend

A women can never have it all

This is coming from a dude that female fiend ova my look and I’m packing. Now if a nother good looking man come along with more(Swagger, Money and a longer penis even if it only 1 inch ) Shorty jumping team quicker then T.O

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2cents wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 12:44 am

@ #73 (UDG) Dude’s is too hard body thats why the be in the gym wit balls in the face all day…lmao!

Either that or just to immature to really comment on a topic like this.

78.
Ahijah wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 4:05 am

Women love drama somethink to talk about with their friends, and shit White women love black guys and quite a few of the black guys they date would treat them like shit but the girl would always end up staying with him. Sometimes I think girls are frightened by a guy with brains … thats why you have niggaz and bitches turning gya & lesbians like its flavour of the month

79.
2cents wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 4:20 am

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
intersting point, I forgot that one…lol!

Chicks are intimidated by smart dudes!!!!!!!

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realgirl4 wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 7:51 am

I don’t think nice guys finish last. I think that a lot of the nicer guys are not open about their feelings for whatever reason. They leave girls wondering and are so closed in that you have to play guessing games with them, the jerks put everything out there. There are no suprises, believe me every girldreams to have a nice guy; there aren’t a lot out there. If you like someone you should let them know otherwise the moment just passes you by and they could wind up with the jerk whose always standing there waiting to get the good girl. You can’t change your character because everyone else is a bad guy or jerk. If someone is for you and God put them in your life then they’ll always be for you maybe not right away maybe later…but you could always find your way back to where you belong. Real Talk i’m glad you took a break from the Ye& 50 to post something more meaningful. Thats why u’ve got the best blog in NY. Big up from your girl. You know who this is.

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youngmd wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 8:20 am

I think it’s all about personality, girls are an enigma… most of my friends are girls and they always get played by the bad boys/ pretty boys, but they always fall for the next dude that is the same exact way. IT’s Crazy, if u ignore a girl they seem to like u more?wtf

82.
Emissary wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 10:08 am

you know what I thought this topic would get some comments from Mi Mi, juicy, and the chick that be selling oranges but none?

83.
yeahmutherfuckerisaiditandwhat wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 10:15 am

So girls/women don’t get their heart broken? It’s too many “bird ass dudes” out here after reading some of this bs. It’s 2007 you treat a women like a women and a bitch like a bitch,same holds true for men you treat a man like a man and a bitch ass nigga like a bitch. lol So if you simple minded you will get treat as such.

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Off Topic!! wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 10:52 am

^^^ I feel you on that, there bitch ass nigga out here. Still a girl when she fine a almost perfect MAN she still want more. New flash no body PREFECT. But some guys come close,Like my self it still not good for ya Women. Shorty read my post and tell me I’m lying.

This is coming from a Pretty Boy/Fly dude
I treat a women nice when I want to, And put them in there place when I have to

But I’m not a thug or a gangsta and black female love that. New flash a lot of these blood and crips and these hood nigga like the same shit you like

85.
theone wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 12:24 pm

AMEN TO # 76 WHAT MORE CAN I ADD THESE BITCH BE JUMPING BOATS LIKE THE SHIT ABOUT TO SINK, BUT WE STILL A FLOAT

86.
mikefromda718 wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 1:13 pm

GIRLS SUCK…AND THEY DONT SUCK WHAT THEY NEED TO BE SUCKING…WORD TO MUTHA…..I BLAME WOMEN FOR EVERYTHING WRONG IN SOCIETY FROM REALTIONSHIPS TO MUSIC……RELATIONSHIPS THEY PLAY TO MANY MIND GAMES THE DUDES JUS WANTS ASS U JUS PULL THE REST OF THE BULLSHIT OUT UR ASS………..MUSIC THEY DONT KNO GOOD MUSIC THAS WHY “AYE BAY BAY” AND ALL THEM CHICKEN NOODLES SOUP SONGS IS HOT THEY REQUEST EM AND THAS 50 CENT IS LOSING TO KANYE CUZ THEY SOFT n THEY BUY CDZ……..WOMEN ARE GOIN TO KEEP US FROM HAVING A BLACK PRESDIENT CAUSE THEY ALL GOIN VOTE FOR HILARY AND SPLIT THE VOTE…….FUCK PUSSY THEN FUCK THEM COMPLETELY…….ICE COLD!!!!!!! USE EM AND LOSE EM

87.
Emissary wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 1:46 pm

^that was the biggest load of bullshit to ever come on this site at least for today…..BUT you did have point about the music comment…alot of those half skilled pretty boy rappers are only around because of their appeal to the women this is how you get shit like “Can i just take a moment to honour the SEXXXXXXY santana..i mean that dimple- and the undone belt- and the tongue in one of the pics is
just too sexy! He can really get it”……….little do most of them know that Juelz Santana is yet to say a rhyme using a complete sentence or Cassidy still can’t rhmye with-out glorifying his jail time or threating to kill everything with a body temp.(can’t even know what he’s saying a rap city cause eveything was bleeped out)

I’m not hating on either one but IT IS WHAT IT IS

88.
theone wrote on September 16th, 2007 at 9:07 pm

So just be a sexy ass nigga and fuck a bitch and use them and lose them and i guess i’ll be off the hook for calling women hoe’s and trick and bitchs and shit. I get now Emissary

89.
The coldest producers ever!!!! wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 5:42 am

Gosh since me & my producers have nothing but time on our hands after being taken off the Batman movie we couldn’t help but to study this post. After reading this over and over we came to this conclusion: Dear Summer, I think Slim dumped you for the 10th time again. We know you don’t have access to the internet over there where you are by the beach teaching those runts but we hope Ara gets this message to you. Did you really think Track Ratz could do a mjor movie or were you letting some 8 year olds hype u up again. We paid attention to the 2pac just like daddy refrences & being that a lot of Pac’s songs seem to have applied to u we narrowed down our findings. We don’t think u are under-developed nor are you an adolescent. We think you are a strong Other woman who went through a very traumatic year and we & New York’s Finest hope you recover. Even though you dumped Mr. New York for the 25th time thinking you had a shot at Slim (please check concrete loop for more evidence) we wanted to let you know him (mr. New York) and all of us still love you and we can’t wait for you to come back. We really miss you and life is just fuckin boring w/out u. Upon your return we will bow before you like u demand. Seriously we love & miss you a lot. You’re so special and you keep every one going & u’re the most unselfish person we know. You love a lot & we love you a lot too. We all know you have a sense of humor so we hope u laugh when Ara delivers this message to you. You knew we were gonna miss you & we are. Men if you have a good girl who loves you don’t take her kindness for weakness. All of us men should learn to cherish and respect our women more.

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juicygotemcrazy wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 7:45 am

Emissary, hold on baby, im here. I only blog monday through friday!!!!

i have had expreince with both types of guys. and i am a woman that can admit that i have made some bad choices in men in the past. im single now, so i can reflect a lil bit. see, when i meet guys its like either or with them, u either have a nice guy that u have nothing in common with or a jerk that likes what you like. well thats just my story, it may be different for different women. im a chick that knows about art, fine dining, crack, guns and kids. basically saying im well rounded, LOL. I want a man that is well rounded as well, while i want a nice guy that treats me like a queen, i want a little bit of roughness. not a man who beats me, not a man that controls me, but one that lets it be known that he is a MAN and demands to be treated as such. I am one of those women, that if treated well and taken care of, i will take care of you and your needs. if you arent going to treat me right, im not going to deal with it. jerks are fun maybe if you like rough sex, but for the most part, give me a cool dude with a rough edge.

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Pounce wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 7:55 am

I will say one name that should help some women and probably all men. Tom Leykis

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juicygotemcrazy wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 8:12 am

i think im a different type of woman anyway. i rarely want a commitment, and i expect alot from a man. thats why im single, im not about to settle. i have the issue where men always want a relationship and thats not what i want.

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getting wads of paper(G.W.O.P) wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 12:43 pm

I think this article is true only to a certain extent. I’m not a jerk and I treat women with the upmost respect. That’s the key right there woman want the “nice guys” the guys that treat them with respect, guys who are established, as well as confident. Bitches want the “thug” or “hood nigga”. It all depends on who you’re fucking with, if you got money, nice house, nice car, it don’t matter if you’re a “nice guy” or not because money attracts the bitches. If you’re a nice guy or if you’re a jerk, I bet if you pulled a stack out your pocket them draws gonna fall. I’m a lying? HB!

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juicygotemcrazy wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 1:16 pm

#93 but if there were 2 guys with the same amount of paper, one was a jerk and one was a nice guy, who do u think would get the girl. i love nice guys, but they are hard to find.

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Spankman wrote on September 17th, 2007 at 6:56 pm

This is a meaningful subject but what is sad is that alot of people are young and confused; to these young ones lets send some positive energy into the atmosphere; don’t sell yourself short.
If you are a good brother, stay that way, don’t let others dictate to you how you should be because when you do you give people power over you that have no business having that much authority. Yes us good men are rare; women outnumber us 7 to 1; all the more reason for you good brother to know your worth; you are a precious commodity like diamond, or Middle East oil.
20 years ago I learned that you have 4 types of women; not 2; 4.
You have the concubines; who only want you for what you have and if you can’t satisfy there inmature mind they don’t want you; they live to victimize the strength of a king but never truly have the man or king of there own; they bounce around.
You have the commoner woman; who is a woman who doesn’t want to achieve much in life; no ambition, but can love her man if nothing else; aka the old fashion house wife.
You have the women who are like princesses who have potential to achiev great things in relationships and with there God given talent; they may not be where they could be but they have great potential.
Lastly you have women who are queens who live loving there men and appreciating them; and understandign the good man when she sees him and using her talents to full capacity in all areas of her life; educationally, romantically, spiritual and professionally.
The question is really simple; if you are a man are you man enough to be the king you are suppose to be; if not then you sold yourself short and need to realize what you are capable of on your own.
If you do realize what you are capable of and you are a good man then go after a queen; don’t waste time on anything less than that; if she shows herself as a queen show how you feel; if she doesn’t don’t show a thing because no one invests into a business that is untested so why should you invest your time and future in someone who may not be worth it.
To my sisters I say peace; if you are a queen then you should know what a king looks like. If you are not a queen as of yet you have intelligence and wisdom so you can become one; as a matter of fact the only thing that stops you is if you don’t want to be one.
People be responsible, be adults, and do not be playful children because life is not a joke.

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juicygotemcrazy wrote on September 18th, 2007 at 6:06 am

^^^^^^^Great piece!!

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getting wads of paper(G.W.O.P) wrote on September 18th, 2007 at 2:46 pm

@ number 94 if they both have the same kind of money who would get the girl? Well probably both because she’s more than likely a ho.
HB

98.
MWAAAH! wrote on September 30th, 2007 at 8:04 pm

COSIGN NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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