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September 22, 2007

So Kanye Even Outsold 50 Cent In The, “Hood”

Nationally, the city slicker 50 Cent even had to take a bow to the preppy West in the ‘hoods. Overall, ‘Ye moved 237,900 copies in cities, according to SoundScan’s geographical breakdown, to Fif’s 157,000 copies.

And in the ‘burbs, West took care of business as a whopping 578,000 fans scooped copies of his album. Fif, a favorite among the suburbanites, was the recipient of a strong presence there, but his 471,000 units in the land of soccer moms didn’t quite match up with West’s numbers.

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I know some people thought 50 would have the hood on lock…

175 Comments so far

1.
VA HUSTLA wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 12:44 pm

WHO CARES ..IN THE LONG RUN 50 GOT HIM

2.
bragd wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 12:46 pm

i heard 50 won in myanmar

3.
kesha wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 12:47 pm

YEAH WHO REALLY CARES. THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT. 50 AND DIPSET. THATS SOME HILARIOUS SHIT RIGHT THURR.

4.
RAY MIDNITE wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 12:47 pm

YOU KNOW THIS STILL ISN’T REALLY A SURPRISE CONSIDERING THE WAY FIF WAS GOIN AT LIL WAYNE AND WAYNE IS A HOOD FAVORITE WHO IS ABOUT DUE FOR HIS SHINE BY NOW AND A LOT OF FOLKS IN DA HOOD LIKE WAYNE AND ALWAYS HAVE AND DA FACT THAT HE WENT AT HIM WAS NOT REALLY JUSTIFIED..AND DA FACT THAT FIF DIDN’T EXPLORE TO MUCH OUTSIDE OF WHAT HE NORMALLY TALKS ABOUT BUT HIS BEAT PRODUCTION..I MEAN TO ME A LOT OF THOSE SONGS ON CURTIS COULD’VE EASILY BEEN ON THE MASSACRE..THATS JUS MY OPINION

5.
uhm wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pm

NO, FUCK THE HOOD 50 JUST WON IN THE WORLDWIDE

After losing the battle for first week sales in the States, 50 Cent can enjoy a little taste of revenge as many European charts put 50’s Curtis over Kanye West’s Graduation.

According to Billboard, Curtis made its debut at No. 1 on the European Top 100 Albums chart, while Graduation came in at No. 3. Billboard’s European Top 100 collects data from charts in 19 major European countries. 50’s album had a strong showing, scoring a chart-topping debut in both Switzerland and Ireland, while West is on top only in the United Kingdom.

In the U.K., Ye’s total of 84,000 copies sold helped him debut at No.1 there, just edging out 50’s tally of 72,000. Fif also managed to score an additional five other top five entries across the pond in countries like France, Germany, Austria, Holland and Norway, versus only three top five slots for Graduation, in Norway, Ireland and Switzerland. Kanye’s album failed to chart well in countries like France, where the record debuted at No. 33 and Spain, where the album has yet to earn a chart position.

Both artists are also in the top 10 of the Eurochart Hot 100 Singles, with 50’s “Ayo Technology,” featuring Justin Timberlake and Timbaland, holding down the No. 4 spot and West’s “Stronger” at No. 6.

6.
A dime a dozen wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 12:52 pm

I’m not hating or anything but WHO CARES! People are still tryna drag this 50 vs. kanye thing. Both their albums came out they both brought in big numbers at the end of the day. so N E X T to that dumb ass article.

7.
S.MC wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm

Just leave it alone

8.
Hiphopfan wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:01 pm

LMAO 50 gettin his ass whooped

Is he gonna retire?

and wassup wit da 50stans on here??? Is Curtis your father??????

9.
ns_dip514 wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 pm

first week winner - Kanye

lets wait for the worldwide #’s…

10.
T2 wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:03 pm

LOL @ 4. How can you say fuck the hood?

Anyway this 50 vs Kanye is old news.

NOVEMBER 6th the Jigga album is expected so that is all I care about.

11.
cocoa wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:09 pm

50 gets more sells from out of the country anyway. so i bet when the world wide count comes in 50, again will be top dog.ha ha love hime or hate him let kanye enjoy his little first week championship.

12.
Pounce wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:17 pm

The hood is hard, but its more regular cats in the hood than real street niggas. Niggas in the hood love that I get money but do they really get money? Cant tell me nothin is actually true for more people.

13.
Emissary wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:22 pm

Here’s a list of people who don’t know curtis is a dildo holding pop gangsta

Switzerland
Ireland
France
Germany
Austria
Holland
Norway
France
Surburban crackas(most of the ones who defend curtis on this site)

14.
Rapalot [Da REAL ONE] ™ wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:23 pm

There goes 50s street cred..

15.
Getting Gwap wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pm

The hoods in NYC don’t bump 50 which explains it and in reality 50 told Interscope to purchase 300k copies of Curtis so if Interscope never bought those albums 50 would’ve really only sold about + 350k.

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Jizzle wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pm

The uk is posing. Tim westwood is tight in all but he just seems so fake to me. I say who ever won in the us is king.

17.
Rapalot [Da REAL ONE] ™ wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pm

Co-sign with Emissary

18.
RealTalkTaiwan wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:24 pm

Fuck black people, they had been and shall be SLAVES for the rest for their damn life! This ain’t discriminating this is a proven fact, such as havin a disgusting smell, and a nasty breath. They are averagely lived in poor areas while other races such as ASIANs live in better. So fuck black people and their ancestors!

19.
ya boi wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pm

I bet he outsold 50 in the GAY community too…

20.
Rapalot [Da REAL ONE] ™ wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:27 pm

WAT DA FUCCKK..LOOK AT THIS FOOL^ ON A HIP-HOP WEBSITE SAYIN FUCK BLACK PPL?

JUST AFTER EMISSARY SAID IT YALL SEE THAT 50 STANS ARE REALLY WHITE BOYS HUH

I AINT GOT NOTHIN 2 SAY OVER THE INTERNET BUT IF U FOREAL N I HAD SEEN U ON DA STREET OR SOMEWHERE…BROKEN JAW CONFIRMED LOL

21.
Rapalot [Da REAL ONE] ™ wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 pm

@#18 You would kno huh

22.
yll wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:28 pm

curtis 2 million worldwide
kangay 1.4 worldwide sales!!!!!
guess curtis won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

23.
T2 wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:33 pm

# 17 your an ignorant fool!

24.
RealTalkTaiwan wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:35 pm

wtf r u talkin about rapalot? Broken Jaw? I bet you still underaged and packed with somebbgun and shit, fake gangsta, real hobo. I bet ur name’s suckalot cuz you always sucking on ur grandmama’s titties, and I bet you enjoy that alot sucka. Don’t e-thug me cuz you ain’t gonna, I’m a gangsta from taiwan and we run this gangsta shit so hard just like ur grandmama ride ur dick biatch.

25.
Getting Gwap wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:38 pm

I say we cook that chink(17)and feed it to the dogs,
who’s with me?

26.
RealTalkTaiwan wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:40 pm

The fuck you babbling about Pappose?(24.) who you calling a chink? That’s racial discrimination and you better apologize for that.

27.
Pounce wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:45 pm

Everyones tough over the internet. Disregard # 17.

Anyway this Jay-z album about to get hyped all of Oct. This is a genius marketing campagin, better than kingdom come and almost as good as if not better than 50 vs Kanye. Hes linking the album with a blockbuster movie.

Everytime Denzel do a interview hes gonna bring up Jay-z, same with Russell Crowe and TI. And when Hov does a interview he going to remind people to see the movie. Every fan, stan and white boy that buy the album gonna see the movie to lol. Plus def jam doing the official soundtrack.

Niggas in Def Jam marketing dept must all have they masters degree and work overtime with these plans.

28.
yll wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:48 pm

ya and def jam gonna buy a couple hundred thousand copies too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wow wat a genius idea!!!!!!!!

29.
Skee wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:53 pm

kanye didnt sell no 1.4../ he prob sold 1.0 def jam bought the 400,000

30.
whiteywhiteman wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:55 pm

alright, I admit it, I’m white as snow and from Europe, Germany! Whoever says dem Europeans don’t know nuffin about hiphop- is right ! lol even most of the hiphop heads over here don’t have a clue. the amount of ppl who understand the lyrics and can tell a hot rhyme from a weak rhyme is really not that big. I know what’s up of course , hehe, raised in the Big Apple moved over here a few years ago.. and yes I aint a kid no more! To make a long story short- in the EU they just need a hard beat for the dancefloor. Lyrics don’t matter that much, they’re glad when they get the easy stuff and can sing along with a chorus like - to the window to the wall til the sweat drips from my balls.. lol N-bombs & cusswords are a “plus” if you put that in your lyrics coz a lot of ppl know these words.. Thug-sh!t is still something they are interested in to hear about, coz it’s so “different” to their lives. (Doesn’t go for the UK though) because of all of that I’d say US-Sales count only. The battle was big over there and not here! Heads in the US had in their hand this time to “vote” for a winner by buying one of the albums. The numbers are in, Ye won, in the states, in the hood, nuff said. So can we please get over this battle now?? Thank you! Gimme some other news, please! This is getting boring- Damn I wrote a whole book, sorry about that!

31.
2COOL4U wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:56 pm

I KNEW KANYE COULD DO IT HIS ALBUM IS 10* BETTER THAN 50 CENT, COME ON PEOPLE OPEN YOUR EYES, 50 IS NOT THAT GOOD TRUTH BE TOLD HE’S NOT BETTER THEN JA THINK ABOUT IT?

ps. FUCK 50 FUCK 50 FUCK 50

@

32.
Pounce wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 2:23 pm

Hope Cam doesnt speak on 50. He probably hot off this Kanye shit and will get back on Cam for a while. Hope he was writing some ether while he was away the entire summer. I can see it now, 50 diss Cam and got Jimmy on the hook.

33.
yll wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 2:39 pm

GET RIGH OR DIE TRYING WAS A CLASSIC HOW CAN U SAY JA IS BETTER THAN 50 IF HE NEVER PUT OUT AN ALBUM HAVE AS GOOD AS GROD

34.
THUGLUV wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 2:46 pm

Can you say huuuuuuuuuge? Can you say huger than huge? Kanye West’s magic week has everyone in the industry scratching their heads and wondering what just happened. I was barraged with calls asking me why this happened, how this happened, did this really happen and what it means for all of us. In this case, I think the answer is simple—it was a perfect storm for Mr. West.
First, he’s a well-respected artist who is pulling fans from hip-hop, R&B and pop.

Second his album has hits—real old-fashioned hits.

Third, the album is great, so that the initial buyers (as well as those who heard it when it leaked early) spread the word and sales projections actually kept gaining during the week. It was no one-day wonder, as many albums are these days.

Fourth, not only was West highly visible on the VMAs, he topped it off with a post-show anti-MTV tirade that was picked up by every media outlet in the Western world, putting him in the eye of the news storm that surrounded the Britney Spears’ performance on the show. West became the anti-Britney—the man who was wronged—as well as the anti-MTV and the media miracle for the week. You couldn’t turn on the TV or go online without catching sight of him. That flood of multimedia exposure enabled the word to get out there that his album was available. The point is, breaking through the overwhelming white noise of the Information Age and focusing people’s attention is a key element in any effective marketing campaign.

And fifth, the additional publicity he garnered from being dissed by the 50 Cent camp—along with Fiddy’s media-trumpeted promise that if he failed to beat him, he’d never make another album—added more fuel to the media circus.

So what does this all mean for us?

1. Albums can still sell. (If he can do nearly 1m and Fitty almost another 700k in the same week, then there IS hope!)

2. Great music is always an essential ingredient.

3. Star quality is also necessary.

4. Hit singles never hurt. (Exposure of the right songs on the radio works, no matter what the radio bashers have to say.)

5. Publicity and exposure in all media is a key component. (Credit Messrs. Reid and Bartels and their team here for a job well done.)

6. Strive for greatness and add in all the other elements necessary to get people talking, and winners can still win!

35.
K's wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pm

uhm what is your point?? What were the sales in Japan and Afghanistan? My point is, which album do you prefer? Lets discuss the the albums in terms of music and leave that bullshit alone. Please stop making ignorant remarks!!!

36.
p wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 2:48 pm

50 lost in sales cause all his fans downloaded it for free…i bet 50 won in the bootlegg numbers…niggas in the hood by bootlegs…same place they get them kayslay mix c.d’s from is where they by 50 shit at…and if they aint buy it there then thy burned it off the net…thats why 50 lost…kanye is trash..aint no goodlife in the hood!

37.
DJ GX wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:01 pm

lmao,i remember how fif and all hiz fanz said kanye couldn’t compete…now he beat him in tha u.s. and all u hear iz “first week sellz don’t matter” “worldwide sellz r more important”
and if this is tru,y didn’t you guyz say it B4 tha album’s released.
i think tru muzak iz comin bak: common,talib kweli,keith murray,2pac,kanye west,jay-z,ans,lupe fiasco,mos def,q-tip,ludacris,remy ma (sumtimes) and more.

I’M LIVIN THA GOOD LIFE!!!!!!!!! SO WANKSTA’S CAN’T FOLLOW MY LEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!
I HATE I GET MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!! CUZ U CAN’T TELL ME NOTHIN!!!!!!!!!

38.
DJ GX wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:02 pm

*i didn’t mean ans i meant nas

39.
curls for thAA girls wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:09 pm

HE IS THE GREATEST RAPPER ALIVE

GO KANYE!!

FUCK 50 GUNOT!!!

40.
ja ruled wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:13 pm

and wassup wit da 50stans on here??? Is Curtis your father??????

loooooooooool u r right

41.
TRUTH wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:16 pm

September 22, 2007. A couple of weeks ago 50 Cent warned the public that Def Jam would try and buy up Kanye’s album - to artificially increase his sales numbers. And it now look like there may be evidence to prove his allegation.

We have learned that Kanye West’s album Graduation is scheduled to sell only 250K units in its second week - that’s a whopping 76% decline from last weeks sales.

And this isn’t the first time that a top selling Def Jam artist had such a monumental drop in second week sales. You’ll recall that last year we reported Jay-Z’s album Kingdom Come dropped almost 80% in second week sales.

42.
S.MC wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:21 pm

DJ gx im going to give u a big FUCK YOU!!! and #31 good speech co sign

43.
dolo wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 3:43 pm

y didnt real talk post the worldwide numbers yet???

44.
Duece 5000 wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 4:14 pm

REALTALK, I LOVE THIS SITE, BUT ITS FUCKED UP THAT YOU AND OTHER SITES HAVE NOT REPORTED THAT 50 SOLD 2 MILLION WORLDWIDE VS. KANYE 1.6. WHAT MAKES IT WORST IS THAT YOU ARE STILL GIVING NUMBERS THAT SAY KANYE WON, AND YOU KNOW ITS BULLSHIT. WILL SOMEONE TELL THESE HATERS ONLINE THE TRUTH, IF 50 GOT HIM SO BE IT, BUT GIVE THE PEOPLE THE NUMBER!!! 50 SOLD 2 MILLION GIVE THE NICCA HIS CREDIT. WE SUPPORT YOU AND THIS SITE, SO WE DESERVE THE TRUTH.

45.
ayo wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 4:33 pm

Yea I Cosighn number 41 Iwas gonna say the same why dont ya’ll post how 50 sold 2 mill worldwide and beat kanye,

46.
Rapalot [Da REAL ONE] ™ wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 4:40 pm

The bet was highest first week sales in North America

KANYE WON.

End of Discussion.

47.
Anon wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 4:52 pm

I’m feeling like who the fuck still cares really. I mean, aint we already move on to Jay with his, “Blue Magic?” Had no idea we were still on this. This is the biggest gimmicky marketing ploy shit since “hip hop is dead” which is STILL creating noise.

48.
ayo wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 4:53 pm

Naw let me stop, 50 did win Im just defendig kanye because of Gay rights, But I’ll admit 50 did sell that 2mill worldwide

49.
2cents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 5:09 pm

Point is to the number crunchin fake C.P.A. neggaz the rest of the world only counts when you need them to back up your point. IN THE U.S> KANYE OUT SOLD 50 AND 50 SAID IT COULDN’T BE DONE. EVEN WITH ALL HIS ATTENTION STEALING TACTICS… not yellin jus want it to be seen by the blind…lol!

Either base the arguemnent on content or sales…either way in my opinion 50 lost he didn’t put what he needed to put into the CD which is energy in my opinion.

And as for Ja not droppin a classic? What are you basing a classic album on? None of these negroes did the miseducation of lauryn Hill or an album on that level so I can’t call it but I see ja and 50 in the same talent pool neither is that much superior it people base they’re acceptance of each on wether they believe their side of the story.

50.
JR wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 5:24 pm

wat about chamillionaire almbum this kanye vs fif getting old

51.
jb wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 5:30 pm

lol 50 won post da fuckin worldwide sales…and now niggaz is sayin that ja is in da same talent pool as 50 quit fuckin hatin my niggaz dam ja new shit suck and thats that… 50 2 mill kanye 1.6 mill 50 won so new dam topic yeeee…

52.
Dead Presidents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 5:35 pm

THE INTERNATIONAL NUMBERS ARE BOGUS, PLUS ONLY THOSE WHITE PEOPLE IN EUROPE BOUGHT 50′S ALBUM, THOSE WIGGAS.

INTERSCOPE JUST SAID 2 MIL TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE 50 WON, BUT ONLY WIGGAS IN SWEEDEN COPPED HIS ALBUM.

HAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

50 STANS ALWAYS TLAKING ABOUT SALES, BUT NOW THEY TRYING TO SAY SALES DONT MATTER DUN.

HAHAHAHA

ITS OVER FAM, 50 IS A GIMMICK, HE AINT NEVER GON BE NO LEGEND LIKE JAY. HAHAHAHAHA

PLUS IF U ADD KANYES INTERNATIONAL, TO HIS NUMBERS HERE ITS MORE THAN CURTIS WORLDIWIDE AND DOMESCTIC NUMBERS, CAUSE KANYE SOLD ABOUT 400,000 MORE THAN 50 HERE, AND 50 DID THE SAME IN EUROPE, SO WHEN U ADD THOSE UP ITS EQUAL. 50 STANS CANT DO NO MATH HAHAH, AT THOSE NIGGAS,

53.
dolo wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 5:55 pm

post 50 numbers… and stop hatin

54.
yll wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 6:14 pm

@41 im wit u on dat, realtalk yall need to be fair and balanced like fox news, u can tell yall hate 50 yall only post one side of the story.

and these lames on here saying ja and 50 the same depending on who side u believe has nothin to do with it. like i said ja has never made a classic album everybody know what a classic is. yall must never heard all the hit song 50 has made from Power of the Dollar to How to Rob to Get Righ or Die Trying to Beg for Mercy to the songs he gave Game on Documentary To the Massacre (except for candy shop and disco inferno which is y yall hate on him now for those 2 songs)but the rest of that album was fire. like i said jarule aint nowhere close to 50. ya he had a couple hits which were his singles. but the albums 50 come out every record is hard, the singles dont even be the best ones.

55.
yll wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 6:17 pm

@49 dam u cant add curtis 2 million kanye 1.6 million those numbers include us numbers that is the total. wut u talkin bout if u add there is no more to add those are the totals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

56.
slick wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 6:22 pm

VIVENDI WHICH IS THE COMPANY THAT OWNS INTERSCOPE AND DEF JAM IS THE ONE THAT POSTED THAT ON THEIR SITE

57.
CURTIS' #1 RYDER (not like that lol) {iM a GiRL} wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 6:55 pm

UGGGH…WHY CANT PPL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT 50 SOLD 2.2 MILLION WORLDWIDE AND KANYE SOLD 1.6 MILLION…SO, 50 IS THE WINNER IN M EYES REGARDLESS

58.
2cents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 6:56 pm

YEAH SLICK thats the company that owns UNIVERSAL who were the real winners of this hip hop clash. And the one’s who had y’all drinking gin and juice which started the model which has been continued with its latest incarnation the PATROn talk. People follow to much instead of thinkin for self.

@ 48 (JB) I’m the only one who said 50 and Ja are in the same talent pool. No need to put that on any other man. And ain’t nonody hatin your nigga (if you know him) point is the dude is aight. Never been on Pacs level, never been on Rakims level, he’s what he is more image than talent. And if you think his album sale potentially put him on any other those guys level then you’re jus wildin!

59.
2COOL4U wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 7:06 pm

PEOPLE PEOPLE PEOPLE!! I’M SO SO SO SORRY! THAT YOUR MOMMY OR DADDY DROP YOU ON YOUR HEAD HAS A CHILD YOU STUIPD MUTHER FUCKERS HOW CAN YOU SAID 50 CENT IS THAT GOOD OK YES HIS FIRST ALBUM GET RICH OR DIE TRYING WAS A GOOD LOOK BUT IT WAS BASE ON A BEEF SINCE THEN IT BEEN SHIT THE MASSACRE IS SHIT AND CURTIS IS LIKE THE BROWNS IN THE SUPERBOWL!!! IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN HA HA HA!!! BUT KANYE HAS NOTHING BUT HITS LET’S BE REAL OK YES KANYE DON’T TALK ABOUT DRUG OR SHOOTING MUTHER FUCKERS OVER A CHAIN AND SHIT LIKE THAT BECAUSE THAT NOT HIM HE STAY IN HIS ON LANE AND YOU GOT TO RESPECT THAT UNLIKE 85% OF THESE RAPPERS LIES ABOUT EVERTHING, LIKE I TELL PEOPLE REAL RECOGNIZE REAL AND THESE MUTHER FUCKERS AIN’T REAL.

PS. FUCK 50 FUCK 50 FUCK 50

@

60.
dat nigga wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 7:18 pm

yall know damn well real hood niggas dont go out ab buy real cds

61.
2cents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 7:34 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So why would 50 play himself like that if he knew his fan base wouldn’t buy the CD?

And how many people travelled into Urban area’s from the burbs to bolster Kanye’s sale’s in Urban area’s

Don’t jus repeat sh!t you hear… do the science yourself!

62.
Rapalot [Da REAL ONE] ™ wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 7:45 pm

50 is crap

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63.
Omar wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 8:36 pm

Dead President must be the dumbest person on this post..

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Dead Presidents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:03 pm

THE INTERNATIONAL NUMBERS ARE BOGUS, PLUS ONLY THOSE WHITE PEOPLE IN EUROPE BOUGHT 50?S ALBUM, THOSE WIGGAS.

INTERSCOPE JUST SAID 2 MIL TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE 50 WON, BUT ONLY WIGGAS IN SWEEDEN COPPED HIS ALBUM.

HAHHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

50 STANS ALWAYS TLAKING ABOUT SALES, BUT NOW THEY TRYING TO SAY SALES DONT MATTER DUN.

HAHAHAHA

ITS OVER FAM, 50 IS A GIMMICK, HE AINT NEVER GON BE NO LEGEND LIKE JAY. HAHAHAHAHA

PLUS IF U ADD KANYES INTERNATIONAL, TO HIS NUMBERS HERE ITS MORE THAN CURTIS WORLDIWIDE AND DOMESCTIC NUMBERS, CAUSE KANYE SOLD ABOUT 400,000 MORE THAN 50 HERE, AND 50 DID THE SAME IN EUROPE, SO WHEN U ADD THOSE UP ITS EQUAL. 50 STANS CANT DO NO MATH HAHAH, AT THOSE NIGGAS,

65.
Dead Presidents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:09 pm

Omar wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 8:36 pm

Dead President must be the dumbest person on this post..
^^^^^^^^^^^^

Facts got you mad huh?? It must hurt, the thing about 50 stans is that their so sensitive, they all have some bitch tendancies in them. Remember I mena stans, not fans. Its cool to be a fan, but when your a dickrider that takes it to a whole nother level.

At the end of the day if 50 sold more than Kanye here in the U.S. do you think 50 stans would care about international sales?? DO you think they would even acknowledge Kanyes sales?? Hell no! They would come tp this site and post idiotic comments like “50 WON!!”, and whatever else bullshit. 50 Dickriders are hypocrits because they make the must deal about sales, but now since Kanye sold more here they are trying to downplay the relevance of Kanye selling more here. 50 stans would have been like man “fuck those European marks, 50 sold more in America so he the boss”.

You know all the ignorant shit they type, but now since 50 lost his stans wanna embrace Europe and shit. Ignorant fucks. I hate hypocrits and dickriders. If you wanna be a fan no doubt, but if you stay on a website dikriding a nigga 24/7 you need a life. With that said I’d like to take the oppurtunity to say fuck 50 and he LOST. End of story.

66.
Dead Presidents wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:10 pm

Yo where my post at, I just wrote a long ass post, The fuck is up ?

67.
Killa wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:20 pm

That was not a surprise to me at all! I knew the hood dont really give a fuck that snitch. Hood dont love him, It was just obvious he wouldnt sell as much as Kanye. Besides, them singles and the album aint hood material.

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blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:34 pm

WHO CAR`ES 50 WON WORLDWIDE KANYE WON HERE N THE HOOD HAS RECORD STORES?NOT IN MY HOOD THERE AINT NO SAM GOODY IN THE HOOD LOL HOW THE FUK…. RECORD STORES IN THA HOOD R DYING OUT HOW CAN U COMPARE BESTBUY (THE SUBURBS WERE MOST MALLS N SHYT R WERE EVERY1(THE FEW)PEOPLE THAT DO BUT CDS GET EM FROM TO THE LIL MOM N POP RECORD STORES IN THE HOOD ………O N BY THE WAY THE MIXTAPE SPOT ON THE CORNER IS NOT A RECORD STORE THEM NIGGAS DONT KEEP TRACK OR ADD TO THE NUMBER OF COPIES SOLD N MY NIGGA MOHAMMED AT THE OTHER CORNER STORE DAMN SURE AINT KEEPIN COUNT LOL THAT NIGGA DONT EVEN GOT OFFICIAL SHYT CMON REALTALK SMARTEN UP

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blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:35 pm

MY BAD IF MY SHYT AINT CRYSTAL CLEAR IMA LIL FUKED UP OFF THE PIFF BUT CHEA YALL NIGGAS READ MY SHYT GET THE OVERALL MESSAGE THEN CO SIGHN IT

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KEEPITREAL wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 9:37 pm

FUCK THIS KANYE VS. 50 SHIT! MORE NEWS ON JAY-Z NOV. 6TH PLEASE!

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Dead President wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 10:24 pm

Blanco u gotta understand, when they say record stores in the hood they dont mean dead in the middle of the hood fam. They talking about the closest record stores next to the hood. I dont know where u live, but if u in ny im sure you dont have to travel more than 10 minutes to get to a record store no matter what hood u in. Obviously niggas will go to the closest record store form the hood. Not every hood nigga buys bootlegs anyways but i get what u mean.

They mean the inner city, basically where all the black folks is at and where the most poverty and lower income houses are so thats the same as the hood. So i guess its kinda right.

Does it even matter though, 50 cent lost, the niggas talks too much bullshit, if he didnt brag so much no one would even say he lost.

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SOULJA BOY wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 10:37 pm

I got me sum badin apes.

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blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 11:08 pm

im from blo ny bufalo ny westside check us out n my hood been thourough but yea nigga i c wat u sayin but round here in the hood we got arab stores that got mixtapes n a few record stores dependin on ya hood mine bein black n pr(puerto rican )we got mixtapes n reagaton then on the eastside its only black they got rap,motown,soul,rnb n that word to my nigga rick james r.i.p straight outta bflo

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blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 11:11 pm

o n yea mad niggas dont by mixtapes or shyt its true less u got a whip n no computer or u a hip hop head

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we stone wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 11:17 pm

THE HOOD CANT AFFORD EM SO THEY BOOTLEG EM

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blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 11:30 pm

WORD TO JADA 70 BEST RAPPER ALIVE

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2cents wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:04 am

Damn realtalk you work for Def Jam? UMDG?

@ #66 Dead President… Well stated post man!

No matter how you look at it you gonna see who you wanna see as the winner but point is according to the Challenge I heard kanye shouldn’t have beat him in or out of the U.S.!

As for Curtis, take aways the dude from brooklyns name, pac’s precedent of glorifying being shot (which was not necessarily his doin, but it brought hood dude’s to his mainly radical messages) and the fact he was eminem’s main *^!*& and who really thinks he would have been successful?

Real dude’s who do the science know his history prior to shady records is the evidence!

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2cents wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:06 am

Oh yeah F jay-Z clown azz too. The void has never been filled since Pac and Big were murdered and he’s not even the best rapper on his label(Kanye, Nas)

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Ahijah wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:18 am

ya boi wrote on September 22nd, 2007 at 1:25 pm

I bet he outsold 50 in the GAY community too…

HAHA He proably broke down in tears on ever doorsteps in Chigaco if niggas said they weren’t buying his CD. He proably gave them niggas the money to buy the CD.

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Dead President wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:22 am

Yeah I agree with you 2cents. This whole 50 thing is because of him, he has no one but himself to thank. There are too many ignorant 50 stans on this website so sometimes I just have to post ignorant ish to get across to them since they don’t seem to bother paying attention to any intelligent points.

Many rappers always come on the same day, there are always at least 5 artists scheduled on every release tuesday and theres never a “who lost” debate or frenzy. 50 is the one that turned it into a competition and all the fans ran with it.

From the first day Kanye said he was releasing on the 11th 50 cent started with all the silly statements like “he better move his date, hes irrelevant, Ill crush him, he’s scared, is jay stupid to put him on my date” etc etc. 50 opened his mouth every interview to say something dumb, up to the point where he said he would retire and kanye’s no competion etc, ect.

He tried in every interview to disrespect kanye as an artist, and that just threw more gas on the fire cause people get tired of arrogance and overconfidence. 50 used to be such a humble dude, I mean confidence is cool, but the money got to his head. So now after turning it into a compitition why shouldn’t people say he lost? He wanted it like that and his stans let it be known it was a compitition.

at the end of the day what does it matter, 50 was always just a decent hood nigga, he is never going to be a canidate for goat, and he’ll never be mentioned among the greats. He’s just a smart businessman that got lucky, there are millions of niggas in the hood like 50 who’ve been shot and had average lyrical skills like 50 but they just never got the chance. I applaud 50, he used hip hop like a gimmick and made made money off of it so congratulations to him, he’s a very smart businessman, he has enough money to last him for his lifetime, his gimmick is failing and he isnt selling as much, his group members all flopped, but what does he care, when he stops rapping no one is even going to care.

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2cents wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:29 am

Damn DP you went hard… But you ain’t lie!

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vonnievonn 65 wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:56 am

Kanye West - Graduation
Roc-A-Fella / Def Jam - 1.153.000 - 1 weeks at No.1 - Hot Shot Debut

50 Cent - Curtis Shady / Aftermath / Interscope - 921.000

Here is the numbers for worldwide sales which include both US sales and International sales.

If you 50 cent stans dont believe these numbers go to mediatraffic.de which will give you how each album charted in each country including on the billboard. Also remember that Kanye’s Album have yet to chart in some country/yet to release.

Please stop with all the dellusions even 50 cents knows he lost dayummmmmmmmmmm !

Not only did Ye album debut as #1 on the world chart so did his single Stronger is sitting at 321,000 spins…..now you do the math…..sheeeshhhhhhhhhhh

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vonnievonn 65 wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:57 am

People lie but numbers dont Kanyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee killed that monkey LOL

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fuck ya mother wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 2:38 am

that means the game did good world wide with the doctor advocate cause as soon as 50 lost in the usa fucking cunts
talking about world wide sales and in the u.s game sold 900k
and world wide 1.3mill and they say game flop in the u.s
so 50 cent flop to but at the end of the day 50cent,kanye west,and the game are rich and all of us are broke wake up people are get to fuck out of here love ya’ll

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killa va wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 4:23 am

IN MY BOOK 50 STILL WON

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the king wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 5:42 am

damn i really wanna read these comments but i got drop my change first.
all u 50 fans should be ashamed of yourselves, just reading that kanye beat him in the hood and suburbs. all those nerds and backpackers and homo’s is what i heard everyday on this site, nerds from the suburbs, now what u gotta say for yourself.
50 even had a van in the hood going from block to block sellin discs out the van, it was that serious.
fuckin fraud, u get what u deserve, maybe now you’ll be real wit us and we’ll be real wit u, stop tryin to swindel us and play this fake ass character, nobody’s buyin tickets to the show, re-write your script

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dolo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:26 am

50 didnt lose anywhere really… u can think 50 for bringin hip hop back… if kanye didnt come out on the same day as 50 he wouldnt have sold as much- he even said that on wendy williams show- show when u look at the big picture 50 is g oing to come out on top.. he just shot the video w/jay-z(KANYES BOSS) & diddy.. if it wasnt for 50 none of this talk would b goin on,sales wouldnt be as big as they were.. if u think different ur a hater, cause kanye never sold this much in the first week. w/the technology use & the sales of hip hop down, kanye sells the most he ever did?????????? hmmmm, i wonder y.. 50 is bringing hip hop back.. watch

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:51 am

lol are we STILL on this

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 7:01 am

the 50/kanye hype was great cuz if they dropped on separate days they both wouldnt have sold as much.

the only rappers known outside the country are big/pac (cuz theyre legends and dead), jay (cuz of music and association w/ biggie), kanye (cuz of music and association w/ jay), eminem (cuz of music and he’s white) and 50 cent (got shot a lot and he’s under eminem). the way biggie fans became jay fans, that’s the way eminem fans (white kids) became fiddy fans.

now the difference is, over there they dont have many other rappers to compare fiddy/kanye with. they only know so many rappers while we know ALL the rappers that are good/bad. fiddy sold good numbers here but as u can he’s decline in popularity here cuz we have other rappers to compare against fiddy who are better rappers. as much as u stans must hate it lil’ wayne, TI, or kanye are prolly the biggest guys running rap in THIS country. the other countries prolly know kanye out of those three that i just mentioned so they dont know what WE consider hot. fiddy will sell there cuz they havent figured him out yet (fake beefs), while we already have and lost interest. i mean they JUST REALIZED WHO HOV IS. i mean when he did that water 4 life tour even he was like, damn i should’ve toured the globe YEARS ago. WE set the president 4 what rappers are hot or not, they just realize it a few years later.

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Duece 5000 wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 7:02 am

Wow, some people don’t read shit. Vivendi is the parent company of BOTH 50 and kANYE!!!! They make money off both these niccas. Why would they lie. 50 sold 2 million, kanye 1.6. Don’t be mad that you spent your checks buying 5 copies of graduation, and it didn’t mean shit.

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 7:06 am

look at eminem, i honestly dunno if hes gonna put up huge numbers in this country again cuz he’s been gone and irrelevant 4 some time now, but i GURANTEE that he’ll still sell huge overseas.

while theyre still rocking eminem albums, everybody here is rocking w/ lil’ wayne.

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 7:09 am

lol i gotta admit if any of u guys bought 2 or 3 copies of either graduation OR curtis ur fucking stupid. at the end of the day ALL those record labels are all under one monster umbrella so it’s those WHITE EXECS that are the ones gettin that bread.

the stans on both sides were trying to make this a ‘war’ buying 20 copies of either album LOL. they both took ur money like the suckas u are. i bought both albums and kept it moving, i actually have a life.

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dolo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 8:08 am

50 is internationally known.. those other dudes OLA keeps naming are local… OLA makes no sense, how r u goin to discredit people who are known worldwide. not just in the country they live in.. OLA said lil wayne, ti, and kanye r the biggest in the rap game.. y isnt 50 in that category hater.. cause he sold more than all of them.. an more than lil wayne and ti in america.. people overseas dont know lil wayne because he doesnt have any hits.. what lil wayne hit is out????? so look at the big picture, not the picture in ur local brain… ur local.. 50 is international, get on his level

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dolo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 8:12 am

Ola explain why obie trice, d12 , and everyone else w/eminem is not known worldwide, and also explain y they dont sell like 50????? because he got shot thats the reason he’s known worldwide?? u have to come up w/ a better reason hater…

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pedro navajas wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 9:07 am

i really don’t care who sales the most anymore i just like fif more thats it ain’t nothing to argue about he is just my favorite i still listen to kanye and every other artist that puts out a hot song couse i ain’t gon be like (i don’t like this nigga kanye but that song he put out is fire) i listen to everything as simple as that

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 9:23 am

how is kanye local when he came in #1 in UK, japan, and all those random countries?

lil’ wayne, kanye, and TI are the 3 guys that get talked bout the MOST in THIS COUNTRY. when 50 gets brought up all u hear is negativity. jay hasnt really done anything big, record wise yet he is STILL regarded as the KING of NY, while 50 has never gotten that title. fiddy’s popularity here isnt as high as it once was while across the pond he’s still huge. when it comes to pure rapping ability everyone knows lil’ wayne is better and that’s why in THIS country he’s considered the best, while other countries would say fiddy is the best rapper YET they dont know that many rappers to begin with.

fiddy deserves everthing he’s got, i mean he had big records in the past, this time around it was harder 4 him in THIS country cuz we jus dont regard him as greatly as other countries would regard him. i mean ‘amusement park’ went wood here but i bet it was #1 somewhere in europe. fiddy said it himself that he’s not popular here and he’s more respected in other countries.

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bragd wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 9:26 am

co-sign with dolo, ola go back to norway

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 9:38 am

obie trice, d12, etc had the eminem co-sign but never had any hit records. fiddy had that eminem co-sign, a hit record, and just that facade of being 9 times made himself look like a god to white kids who wanna be gangsta. add all that together and u have a monster. his first 2 albums sold a lot of records, but in THIS country we’re already over him, thus that’s why ppl HERE wanted kanye to win to prove a point. in other countries kanye won and fiddy won but I DON’T LIVE THERE so i dont care lol. those ppl cant tell me bout rap music when rap came from the US, so i could never value their opinion on who they think is ‘hot.’

can u name one rapper not from the US that has gotten any radio play in this country at all?

fiddy is a talented rapper and def one of the better rappers out but in NO WAY is he regarded as the BEST rapper in the US. the rapper in the US that gets named as the ‘best’ by a major consensus is lil’ wayne. im no wayne fan but all i ever here is wayne is THAT GUY. when hov throws out subliminals, everybody always says he’s talkin bout lil wayne cuz wayne has been given that title of being the best rapper in this country. fiddy is prolly considered the best rapper in other countries but they dont know that many rappers to compared fiddy to, we do, thus the slow decline w/ fiddy in the US.

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slick wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 9:52 am

yo this nigga ola says the dumbest things!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
50 made a classic album before he was signed to shady
yall kids go listen to power of the dollar his first classic before he was shot or met dre and em.

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real wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 10:24 am

what lol ja rule has like 4 classic albums or great and 50 cent had like 2 and that nigga is the now is trash compared to ja, i cant wait for ja rule his music is amzing not that boring shit 50 did anyway the mirro will be the shit remenber that even jay z said it and talking bout game yeah he talked too much and all but hell no he didnt flop at all he almost do the same as 50 cent hahahaha and people were always saynig that he went from 5 mill to not even going plat in the us but D A was in the top 5 selling albums of the year so stf u people,haha he sold more than the hole gunit almost duplicated banks and buck and youall will see that if game sales decrease 50 cent wont do even 4 mill worlwide game is at almost 2 worlwide so st fu now hate on gam e or ja

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yo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 10:43 am

50 GOING DOWN….KANYE MAKIN’ HIS WAY TO THE TOP,HE GONNA MAKE SURE HE NEVER DROPZ,50 CENT IS JUST ANOTHER FLOP!!!

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hustlehard wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 10:46 am

50 lost get fuckin over it, and 50 lost hood cred a long time ago. everyone knos that. and thats why his album dont sell as much. on some real shit 50 was good when is first album came out and his second album showed lil signs that he wasnt making songs for the hood anymore. so fuck 50 he loss. kanye won give him his respect.it is what it is

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 10:48 am

@ slick

WHAT ARE U TALKING BOUT

power of the dollar came out and that was it. jay was the king at that time so it didnt matter. that statement was completely irrelevant to the topic.

U DON’T GET IT, fiddy is more popular in certain countries then he is here. the same most likely goes w/ kanye as well. they only know a certain number of rappers while we know all the rappers so we know who is actually good/bad. we all know fiddy/kanye isnt the best rapper but other countries may see it differently but granted they dont know THAT many rappers to begin with, so they dont have many other rappers to compare fiddy/kanye with.

that’s like them saying steve nash is the best point guard period, yet they may never have heard of magic johnson.

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 10:57 am

u guys say ppl hate fiddy cuz he’s rich or hes a ‘great rapper’. jay has more money, better rapping ability, why doesnt he get the same hate fiddy does? jay has never done anything 4 us to question him. the main reason for fiddy’s slow decline here is the fact that he’s so predictable, it’s boring. new album drops: lady record, club banger, then diss record. i think kanye is more generally liked here, and that helped him win here, but kanye is also international cuz he had #1 records in random countries like fiddy did. the difference is, if u look at singles kanye has put out on all his albums, every single is completely different. with fiddy its the opposite.

21 questions - candy shop - jus a lil bit - amusement park
in da club - disco inferno - str8 to the bank

when u start repeating urself, it gets dull after a while but at the same time, its hard to keep reinventing urself and not doing the same type of shit u usually do. fiddy is a talented cat but he’s gotta try to do something different cuz all his albums sound the same. hate it or luv it ppl in the US have given the crown to lil wayne. im no wayne fan but the guy is talented, if he can make sum hit records while incorporating lyricism off his albums then he could end up being a rap monster like hov before him

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:00 am

@ 96 n 97

fiddy lost in certain countries and so did kanye so that doesnt matter

ppl have to realize that rap started in the US, we set the president 4 who is a hot rapper or who isnt hot anymore, the other countries figure it out years later. i gurantee eminem would still sell a million records overseas but i dunno how he’d do in the US cuz he’s been gone 4 so long, and that’s a lifetime in rap music.

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jayjay624 wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 am

DOES ANYBODY REMEBER THAT LATE REGESTRATION SOLD 800,000 COPIES IN ITS FIRST WEEK

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Blud Bro wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:27 am

I think the only reason Kanye sold more in the hood was cause of the song with Jeezy…EVERYBODY I know in the hood wanted that song and copped his album thinkin’ Kanye’s album would be on that level of production. 50 on the otherhand had too many failed singles…meaning that we all heard the majority of his album before it dropped
I didn’t like either really but here in Detroit niggas ONLY playin’ the song wit Young Jeezy & the Big Brother song

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jayjay624 wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 am

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT LATE REGESTRATION SOLD 800,000 COPIES IN ITS FIRST WEEK

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jayjay624 wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:29 am

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER THAT LATE REGESTRATION SOLD 800,000 IN ITS FIRST WEEK

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pedro navajas wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:35 am

ppl like fif better when he was fucked up and ashy

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Dead President wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 am

the only rappers known outside the country are big/pac (cuz theyre legends and dead), jay (cuz of music and association w/ biggie), kanye (cuz of music and association w/ jay), eminem (cuz of music and he’s white) and 50 cent (got shot a lot and he’s under eminem).

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Ola as someone thats travelled internationally I have to disagree with you. Thats not true at all, lets be serious man, what you think them niggas out there are living in a caves? lol

Hip Hop culture is very known in alot of European, African, and Asian countries. They are up to date with the music fam. Nas is known almost everywhere Jay Z is known. I’ve talked to folks in africa and they are up to date with the music. Some dudes that lives in africa told me Lil’Wayne was they favorite rapper not too long ago. I’ve seen Nas performing in Poland, Sweeden, and other European countries with sold out crowds, and people were actually reciting his songs offa illmatic. lol, Im not lying fam.

The hip hop scene in europe is real there, they mostly feeling backpackers, and real lyrical rappers. Common, Mos def, Talib,Nas, Jay, them dudes got fanbases in europe best believe.

Theres Channel O in Africa which is basically like BET, they show whatever is showing here. So cats there is up on whatevers hot there. Thhey have hip hop radio stations there that play whatever is hot here too, mixed with classics. Niggas was up on juvenile there back when cash money was running things. Clipse got radio play, snoop gets radio play. They showed all of lil waynes, and the cash money record songs. Basically if it gets play here, believe it’ll get play there. People know as much about hip hop there. People still selling bootlegs on the street just like here man.

P Diddy got mad airplay internationally and people know him too regardless of how wack he is.

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Dead President wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:00 pm

ppl have to realize that rap started in the US, we set the president 4 who is a hot rapper or who isnt hot anymore, the other countries figure it out years later.

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Ola, again you wrong there. Them dudes don’t figure out ish years later, they are basically up on everything we listen to now fam. Been to Ethopia and Ghana which are in Africa, they radio stations are up to date fam. You go there you’ll find people who like dipset, Wayne, Jay, Nas, basically every rapper here.

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:39 pm

dipset and nas arent selling millions of records overseas are they?

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:41 pm

those rappers that i listed that are ‘known’ outside the country are the ONLY RAPPERS that sell big overseas

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slick wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:45 pm

@95 YO THESE NIGGAS SILLY, THIS FOOL SAID JA HAS 4 CLASSIC ALBUMS LOL. JA NEVER HAD NO CLASSIC ALBUM.

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OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:46 pm

the rest unfortunately dont matter, i mean ppl confuse ’sales’ with ’skills’. nas is a top 5 GOAT and i thought ‘hip hop is dead’ was amazing BUT he just doesnt sell big records which is sad cuz that means there are a lot of ppl who dont know how talented this guy is. then again that’s the music bizz.

i mean look at britney spears/ciara…they are both billed as ’singers’ when they cant sing at all. theyre amazing ‘dancers’ who have very limited/low singing ability yet they have sold a lot of records. look at somebody like christina aguilera/alicia keys who are billed as singers and have amazing voices but dont get half the credit spears/ciara get.

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yo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 12:54 pm

kanye all day

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Sensational wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:04 pm

Daaaaamn.. Y’all be acting like people outside the us dont know anything bout hip hop. You got to learn it’s the same way as it is there (to a lesser extent), which is to say that we got fans of conscious rappers as well as fans of these rappers frontin as gangbangers (weezy thinkin hes a blood).. Americans be trippin, thinkin yall who everyone wants to be.. Damn..

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dolo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:35 pm

OLA doesnt knw shit.. OLA keeps saying 50 sold so much was because of eminem and because he got shot 9 times…i asked OLA to explain why obie trice, d12 , and everyone else w/eminem is not known worldwide, and also explain y they dont sell like 50????? this is the best answer OLA has
“obie trice, d12, etc had the eminem co-sign but never had any hit records. fiddy had that eminem co-sign, a hit record, and just that facade of being 9 times made himself look like a god to white kids who wanna be gangsta”

so the difference between 50 and those other people on shady are that 50 has hit records.. u just admitted 50 has hits… now again i am going to ask u.. what hit record does lil wayne have since u want to call him the best rapper in the US… the only people who r dumb enough to say lil wayne is the best rapper out are little kids bow wow ages who dont knw nothing about rap…

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dolo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:41 pm

OLA says 50 first 2 albums sold alot.. Curtiss is selling a lot too.. so i guess people are not that tired of him… u want 5 to switch up his style .. let me ask u , what does jay-z rap about.. he’s been making the same songs for years.. raps songs.. same thing 50 does.. i think u people want 50 & jay to make techno songs and shit like that ha.. do u knw they dont play stronger on hip hop & r&b stations??? they only play stronger on pop stations.. if ur going to say 50 does the same thing every album so does jay… did u see fade to black..what did jay keep saying? “i need that bounce”… yall need to think before u speak about someone.. cause 50 is not doing anything dif than what was done by all the people who yall look up too.. the reason y people dont like 50 as much as jay is because 50 says what the hell he wants , to whom he wants..

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Dead President wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 1:48 pm

those rappers that i listed that are ‘known’ outside the country are the ONLY RAPPERS that sell big overseas

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Oh alright, that I can agree with with, first it sounded like you were trying to say other countries were ways behind. But as far as sales, yeah its basically the same as here. WHoever sells here, sells there at the end of the day. And the most commercial rappers always sell.

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DJ GX wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 2:18 pm

ya’ll r dumb az hell.
i finally realized that it doesn’t matter about sells or who you know.
kanye is better lyrically and thats all that is important.
@dolo,u lucky i don’t know you or i woulda kicked yo dumb azz for comparin jay-z and 50 cent.
i think that 50 cent USED 2 b sumone when he started. Jay-Z will ALWAYS b sumone in tha music industry.
and 50 cent can sell as many records as he wants but if he tried to freestyle against jay he’d end up cryin.
damn,he suck so much bow wow might just b able to do better.
watch yo,50 cent gonna end up like snoop dogg lmao (who btw hasn’t been seen anywhere for a long time,cept tht dumb azz hell song with kelly rowland)

I’M LIVIN THA GOOD LIFE!!!!!!!SO WANKSTA’S CAN’T FOLLOW MY LEAD!!!!!!!
I HATE I GET MONEY!!!!!!!! CUZ U CAN’T TELL ME NOTHIN!!!!!!!!!!

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uhm wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 2:22 pm

^^we’re talking sales right now since these lames want to act like kanye’s 1st week is something historical. and it’s not.

as for freestyling kanye can’t freestyle either. i can put money on it that 50 is more intelligent than kanye and if he wanted to sure he could rhyme about more than drugs and street life in a more articulate way.

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blaze wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 2:39 pm

50 won in album sell…. it not about U.S sell that make kanye the winner. because the U.S is not that important knowing that you have other fuckin country in the world who bought both album. i mean you cant forget about the other country. ya making it seem like it all about American sell. it about worldwide sell and 50 killed kanye in album sell period. i dont care if the U.S say that kanye win in album sell just because they bought more kangay album. cuz other country did the same but 50 won not kanye. i mean 1 million v.s 2 million, it look like they bought more of 50 album. i give kanye prop for going platinum. but everybody was trashing 50 not giving him credit. but he sold 2 million record so basically his album did better. he didnt flop he not felling as a rapper he not watchout and hip hop is still alive because of him. big up to Europe for coping curtis i love that country they made CURTIS sell real big. but i guess some American dont no good music plus there hater when it come to 50 music what idiots.

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DJ GX.....DICK. JERKING. GAYS. XXXX wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 2:59 pm

NUMBER 117, MUST BE A KANGAY DICK SUCKER AND THAT WHOLE…IM LIVING THE GOOD LIFE…SO WANKSTA’S CAN’T FOLLOW MY LEAD…I HATE I GET MONEY…CUZ YOU CAN’T TELL ME NOTHING…IS SO WACK AS HELL YOU MUST BE FROM THE SUBURBS YOU FUCKIN CRACK HEAD. DJ GX…MUST BE LIVING THE GOOD LIFE SUCKIN KANYE DICK…AND BECAUSE OF THAT NIGGA DONT REALLY WANT TO FOLLOW YOUR LEAD…I HATE YOUR FUCKIN COMMENTS YOU KANYE COCK SUCKER…CUZ YOU CAN’T TELL ME NOTHING CUZ IM SHARE YOU DOWANT TO SUCK KANYE COCK.

126.
blaze wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:07 pm

NUMBER 117, IS A BITCH ASS NIGGA AND YES IM TALKING TO YOU DJ GX. YOU MUST BE ONE OF KANYE GAY FASHION AND CLOTHING BUTLERS YOU SON OF A BITCH.

127.
OLA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:10 pm

lol dolo u are the epitome of an idiot, i never said 50 doesnt have any hit records. his first 2 albums sold crazy, the difference between obie trice and 50 is this. when u hear a record on the radio 4 the first time the only part of the song u remember is the chorus. if the chorus isnt good then the song isnt a hit. 50 writes great choruses but suxx lyrically. look at hurricane chris, the lyrics to his song were horrible but the chorus was so recognizable that he made a hit record, same w/ soulja boy. nowadays ANYBODY can make a hit record, it doesnt mean ur any good. i gurantee if fiddy had released ‘amusement park’ back when he was doing ‘the massacre’ that song would’ve been a hit. the thing is, fiddy is so predictable, we know what he’s gonna release before it drops that we have lost interest, ergo ‘amusement park’ went wood.

lol u said jay raps bout the same stuff?? did u hear ‘kingdom come’?? look at all the rappers that were hot when jay was doin his thing. big, pac, dmx, ll cool j, ja rule, fat joe, nas, mobb deep, big pun, etc. out of all those rappers think bout how many are still around who could still drop a #1 album. jay is still here cuz on every song he literally has a different flow. he can literally ride ANY BEAT i.e. so he can go to any genre of music and spit…linkin park, amy winehouse, beyonce, fall out boy, fort minor…few rappers can do that.

as far as wayne goes, i want u do take a poll of maybe 10 - 25 random ppl who really know rap music and ask them, right now WHO THE BEST RAPPER IS, I GURANTEE U, more will say lil’ wayne than any other rapper. when MTV did their list of hot rappers everybody already knew wayne was gonna be #1. hes put out so much material via features, mixtapes, that have been so consistently good its hard to say he’s not the best. as far as hits go, every single from the carter - like father like son. DOLO face it, fiddy isnt lyrical, so he can’t be better then a lyrical rapper LOL. u remember that ‘beef’ w/ jadakiss right? LOL.

u confuse sales w/ actual skill. 50 has prolly sold more records then nas but is in no way a better rapper then him. hurricane chris and soulja boy have hit records but they both suxx. i mean if u cant get respect in ur own city then wut does that say bout u, mtv said that kanye sold more records in ny then fiddy. soundscan said that def jam didnt buy any records. jay has been fairly quiet in the music world recently and ‘i get money’ was a big record yet ppl still vow that HOV is the King of NY.

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chris wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:13 pm

Stop speaking about the numbers but the quality.
Fifty album is disapointing, Kanye album is dope, that’s all.
And I’m not a Kanye West fan, I prefer 50 to him but he did bad with his album, he put out 2-3 average singles before his album instead of taking big producers, kanye just put “can’t tell me nothing” and “stronger” which were enough to outsold 50

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Dead President wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:14 pm

50 is average, LIKE I SAID HE’s JUST A HOOD NIGGA THAT GOT LUCKY, END OF STORY. 50 IS SMART BUT HE AINT A GREAT, HELL NEVER BE GOAT AND IN 10 YEARS HELL BE LOOKED UPON LIKE JA RULE. JUST A RAPPER SHO SOLD RECORDS OFF A GIMMICK. KANYE ISNT GREAT EITHER AND HE CAN NEVER BE GOAT.

AT THE END OF THE DAY THEY WONT BE REMEMBERED LIKE NAS, RAKIM, JAY, BIG PUN, BIG, AND WHOEVER.

130.
Yuu serious?! wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:21 pm

RealTalkTaiwan

SHut fuck up and order me chinese food.

131.
Yuu serious?! wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:23 pm

dolo is your name dlovan?????????

132.
blaze wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:34 pm

NUMBER 122,MUST BE A STUPID ASS NIGGA…I MEAN IT ALL ABOUT THE NUMBER. BUT IM SHARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT CAUSE YOU FOUND OUT THAT 50 WON WORLDWIDE. IT LOOK LIKE YOUR A HATER THAT DONT NO GOOD MUISC.IT OBVIOUS IF 50 ALBUM SOLD 2 MILLION RECORD THE QUALITY OF HIS MUSIC MUST BE GREAT AND NOT DISAPOINTING. AND AS FAR AS KANYE ALBUM IT SUCK ASS. AND WHY DOES PEOPLE KEEP SAYING THAT KANYE ALBUM IS A CLASSIC WHEN IT NOT. IT HASN’T BEEN OUT FOR A MOUTH AND PEOPLE SAYING THAT IT A CLASSIC. THAT SHOULD TELL YOU THAT KANYE FAN AND 50.CENT HATER ARE KANYE DICK RIDER. AND FOR NUMBER 123, YOU MUST BE A ASSHOLE TO SAY THAT 50 IS JUST A AVERAGE HOOD NIGGA.

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DJ GX wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 3:36 pm

@120
u don’t know me,i may not wear baggy ass pants and beaters all day but im not a geek.
i sumtimez wear polo (neva pink or purple),rocawear,phat farm and bapes sumtimez….
and im sure u don’t even know wth a clothing butler is???
n u juss might be tha smartest person on here cussin me out in all caps with 2 lil sentences full of ignorant words.
how intelligent lol…

I’M LIVIN THA GOOD LIFE!!!!!!!SO WANKSTA’S CAN’T FOLLOW MY LEAD!!!!!!!
I HATE I GET MONEY!!!!!!!! CUZ U CAN’T TELL ME NOTHIN!!!!!!!!!!

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dolo wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 4:31 pm

who ever is dissin 50 saying he makes the same songs.. u have to dis jay-z too… OLA did u hear kingdom come?? i fcks w/jay.. but that album was a flop like crazy… everyone knws that cd was trash… yea trash.. jay-z is aloud to come out w/trash.. hes not god. and please dont bring up that mtv list of greatest rappers.. did u c the people who were making those decisions.. people like ola & dj &Gx r whats killing hip hop and its sad to say its a lot people like that around.. can someone answer a question for me.. y dont they play kangays stronger song on hip hop and r& B stations???.. they only play it on pop stations…. OLA just said “when u hear a record on the radio 4 the first time the only part of the song u remember is the chorus. if the chorus isnt good then the song isnt a hit. 50 writes great choruses” u just basically said that 50 makes great songs.. if thats the case y dont u like him… u dont knw the man personally , so if its all about music u should like 50, cause u just said he comes out w/hits.. so if u like his music but dont like him, and u dont even know him, that means ur a hater

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niggadon wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 4:44 pm

yo realtalk i bet your a fuckin tight pink shirt funny lookin muthafucka that just adores kanye how u gon hate on 50 and you dont even kno him? Realtalkny go back in the closet nigga cause your just fuckin gay if u favour kanye and im not even hatin i enjoy some of kanyes music but his style i dont rock like that

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slick wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 4:45 pm

DOLO IM WIT U MAN THESE NIGGAS DONT KNOW ESPECIALLY DAT FEMALE OLA NIGGA DONT MAKE NO SENSE, WHEN U ON TOP LIKE 50 IS EVERYBODY GOING TO HATE, ESPECIALLY THESE LITTLE KIDS DAT THINK LIL WAYNE THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE, A NIGGA THAT HAS A GHOST WRITER YALL CALL THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE YALL STUPID.

137.
HAHAHAHA wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 4:57 pm

THERE ARE NO RECORD STORES IN THE HODD.BEST BUY..SAMGOODY…ETC

SO WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

JUST CAUSE IT AINT BEVERLY HILLS DOESNT MAKE IT THE “HOOD”

138.
S.MC wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 5:11 pm

FUCK YOU DJ GX U’S BITCH

139.
S.MC wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 5:11 pm

FUCK YOU DJ GX U’S a BITCH

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slick wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 5:18 pm

the only reason kangay outsold 50 in the U.S is cause theres way more homosexuals over here. as yall can see all the homos on this site

141.
dat nigga wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 5:57 pm

yo i feel ya #130 dats wat i was tryin to say earlier

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DJ GX wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:04 pm

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
i believe that a couple of ya’ll are the same person.
and btw i have heard stronger on plenty of r&b and rap stations but when is it that a rap song actually gets on a pop station.
kanye west has taken over a whole new genre and ya’ll hatin cause 25 cent losin the fans in his own genre.

@127 can you honestly sit at your computer and say that jay-z and that dude are in the same height in the rap game?? thats like sayin pac can get beat by diddy or sumn…jay is a legend and ppl like you and 25 cent are killin hip-hop when you say people like jay-z,nas and common aren’t legends (i consider common 1 becuz he has 7 real azz albums)
and you think curtis is actually better.
look at it this way:
Jay-Z>Eminem
kanye>50 cent

@128 y tha hell r u on here if u think that????

@129
it has never been proven that gillie actually wrote his songs and even so 50 cent is BUCK’S ghostwriter and ya’ll still like g-unit,damn hypocrites.

@131
lmao,well that was really an intelligent way of opposing my views on the situation.

143.
yll wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:28 pm

dam that ski mask way song by 50 hard!!!!!!!

ha ha haters

144.
yll wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm

dam that baltimore love thing by 50 hard
ok yo boy jammin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

haters!!!

145.
talib wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:30 pm

Haa DJ GX. please tell me you not serious with that cornball shit you write at the end of your post … Lmaooo

146.
yll wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:35 pm

dam that gatman and robin hard by 50 and em hard!!!!!!
ok!!!!

147.
yll wrote on September 23rd, 2007 at 6:37 pm

yo dat nigga dj and ola the same female them hoes talk the same gay as hell