Is Kanye the King of N.Y.C.?
Hey RealTalkNY’ers it’s a sunny day in downtown, gentrified, Crooklyn. Lawyers are headed to work on Court St. Wasp youth stroll towards Columbia Heights and the Crooklyn Promenade. Amongst the Boho, hipster swaggered kids, are a number of ear-budded hip-hoppers cloth-clad in very obvious archetypes of hip-hop dress. What styles of dress am I talking about? The kind of the dress styles that make the NYC hip-hopper think that Kanye is currently the King of NYC. In the midst of the 50 Cent vs. Kanye gauntlet to be let loose on September 11th, it is necessary to question the overall relevance each of these are artist have within the capital of our Hip-Hop nation.
Written by Mr.Reed (NOT REALTALKNY’s Creator)
Hold your horses my fellow New Yorkers, east coasters, and NYC Hip-Hop jockers. Please calm yourselves of the rabidness signs of white froth forming at the sides of your mouth’s. Claiming that I am guilty of sacrilege would be too immediate without letting me develop my argument or devilish advocacy of message board conversation. Does hip-hop allow imperialism? The ability of foreign lords from other coast or cities to takeover and Ether our lands; leaving us New Yorkers at their feet to glorify them. I dare say it! Yes! If you remember it was Jay-z who expressed the view that NYC had grown soft in the g-funk era after “Snoop crushed the buildings”. Might I note that it did take the “King”….of the South to bring the bosses of the North together, at the Garden of all places. No need to comment on NYC artist continually body-ing each other, whether it be with prison sentences, snitching (thx Cameron Jiles), dis-records, and the continued belligerence of their “weed-carriers”.Look at the South’s reign, how about the mid-West’s reign that let Nelly in (only for him to dis Krs-One of all people), which in a way let Kanye come to fruition; the Chi is the mid-West you know. It may almost legitimately be perceived that Kanyeezy is more accepted in NYC than his adopted hometown of Chicago. He did recently say that he makes NY music at his album listening party for Graduation. He is the co-signed child of the couple that birthed him, Premier and Pete-Rock, thee cornestones of the east cost, soulful, soundscapes in hip-hop.
Returning my thesis to it’s intended scope of peering into the Kanye’s thorough-bred place in NYC Hip-Hop. He came from the camp that Jay built, with Dame and Bigs of course: The ROC. You need more flames for this fire I’ve created? While relaxing by the benches in front of the Crooklyn court house, there is an obvious representation of Kanye-esk, Pharrell-esk, Lupe-esk, hip-thugs, hip-hopers, hip-boarders, hip-skaters, hip-bmx-ers,and hip-sters. The current hip-preppism in hip-hop is phenomenon interesting. I refuse to judge it, but right now this aforementioned look seems to really represent N.Y.C. If that is not the case, the Kanye-me-to look is obviously major in New York right now. Isaac Mizrahi’s style of homeboy chic has really come into vogue.
Let us look at the past, 2003, the average New York hip-hoper looked like 50 Cent. The uniform of that year was a fitted, dark jeans, air-forces, maybe a throwback, but more importantly,it was NYC urban street. You probably were there rocking the clothes. 2007, should I even continue with the next obvious statement? Even Dipset has changed their style to a Kanye-esk-hard-edition (in honor of Dipset–pause! I refuse to use no’mo.);”tight” clothes as we call them in my beloved Crooklyn, E.N.Y., are edged harder by replacing the flowery all over prints and D.A.I.S.Y. age vibes with greys and skulls, (Oh, by the way, the skull craze is officially a wrap, I just killed what already has been dead, sorry Jimmy. Shout-out to Gnostic). This aesthetic adds a goth, metal, rock, edge to N.Y.C. hood style. Even Jay-Z has been greatly fashioned by the Kanye’s steeze, remember the “Jigga Blazer” featuring a button-up with jeans craze, circa 2003-2006. Damn–I know every so-called wannabe fashion boy I saw in NYC clubs had on this “Jigga Blazer” but Kanye was the first to rock it. I apologize to all the people I saw in the clubs with that look (R.I.P. Jigga Blazer). How about BApe and the infatuation with everything Nigo; again Pharrell and Kanye y’all. Colourful and might I even suggest that oh-so 2005 word metro-sexual seem to be hip-hop’s current de rigeur of fashion.
Being a man who appreciates the “flier than a piece of paper bearing my name” sides of fashion, I can also apply N.Y.C.’s current fashion sense with more than just with the rule of Kanye of all things hip-hop in N.Y.C. Shout outs to the Street-wear scene reps like Alien Crew and City Slickaz from the LES. Hip-Hop fashion is a deeply rooted element of Hip-Hop culture, derived from the style of dress of its street people and most importantly it’s b-boys. In terms of contemporary NYC styles you cannot forget the significance of Jamaican Shotta style in current Hip-Hop dress trends. Shottas were the first to take back rudeboy style from the punk culture that jacked it. Remember the days of how the three cuts in the eyebrows of BDK turned into a fashion statement, the “My Adidas” anthem had 20,000 MSG fans waving their Adidas because of RunDMC. How about Jigga’s praise of Iceberg and the pink epidemic of Cam’ron. I feel sure in saying that the King of New York absolutely influences the sartorial style of his subjects. Now being honest my hip-hop friend, to whom is NYC more subject to than Kanye West.? Yet it is worthwhile to note that NYC’s urban ears are more in tune with 50’s Ragged Dick, American dream ethos. NYC hip-hoppers are dressing like Kanye but are still looking for that new Uncle Murda, Joell Ortiz, Maino, Papoose and yes; 50 mix-tape. September 11th, bad for America, G.O.O.D. for hip-hop, you’ll catch that one later.
p.s. 50 started the tight shirt and skull epidemic, don’t believe me? Check out the “Many Men” video and his skull wife beater.
MR.Reed
The Swagger General
135 Comments so far
well kanye isnt the king of ny, i dont really think ny has a king at this time ’round
Man real talk get off Kanye’s Dick Hell Noo he anit no King of NYC,. you been posting bull shit latly I didnt even read that whole essasy, All I needed to read was if Kangay is King Of NYC and thats a Hell Noo
Curtis 9/11
i aint a kanye west fan but Graduation kills curtis in every way. Kanye might not be king of N.Y. but his king of September 11 Graduation all day.
King of New York?
nah that’s still Jigga man
CURTIS SEPT 11th
@ Jeezy
ya if i had to choose id still say hov is da king but hov is so far past rap music, i jus think NY has no king. NY shouldnt even be thinking bout who the king of ny is. they need to start putting out sum hot music and stop having DJ UNK and yung joc outselling them. SMH.
LOL @ realtalk
yaa 50 might’ve started that whole tight shirt skull thing but jim jones made it popular, still dont know how.
#4 How is Jay-Z king of NY?? Tell me… He was at a point but he anit but his time is up Im not saying he bad rapper cuz that nigga is ill but he anit King right now he anit hot right now even tho ya’ll wont admit it 50 is King of NY right now cuz all the othe NY rappers are dead where jadakiss where cam where fat joe?? where all them niggaz a?? and they all better then 50 besides cam and maby joe but they anit puttin shit out right now so that makes 50 kingbut im not sayin he the best ny rapper
good read…..
ya better learn how to respect 50 before he embarrass all of ya. and if ya got a problem with 50 ya should say it in his face. but do you think 50 give a fuck he get his money power and respect. now i dont no why ya would think that 50 is not the king of NYC when he is. so chill out and respect the fact thathe is. and not jigga his time is up he doesn’t make consistant album any more. i mean 50 album could be your best or your worst but when he raps you listen.curtis all day
i get money.. money i got.. i get it.. i run new york 50 is the king so obey king 50 he run NY.
this article is so damn frivilous. N E X T
I hope 9/11 comes soon coz I’m getting sick and tired of the 50 d!ck riders on here writing curtis 9/11 in caps! Gimme a break!
anyways, I was in Paris, France and Frankfurt, Germany a few weeks ago. The European Hip Hop community is definitely wearing the new hyped up gear too and claim they discovered it and it simply swapped over the big pond to NYC after a while.
It’s alright that ppl run around in that new sh!t nowadays.. comon if you saw a group of us mofos standing together then it looked funny -we were all wearing baggy jeans.. the must of our hip hop uniform..
however we can’t let it get outta hand! I just hope pink and tight pimp furs are not going to be the next big thing! I ma f!ck you up otherwise!
I think Jigga will always be is King. I will tell you how # 7. When jigga pulled a MJ and retired after the Black Album, NY hasn’t been anything since then. NY was every where before that. Jay retired, Hip Hop moved south after that. Until somebody makes N.Y. matter again Jigga will always be King. If anything 50 destoyed NY. I think NY need’s to find that next great one, or them cats need to kiss and make up. 50, Jay-Z, Nas, Fabolous, Fat Joe, LOX, Wu-Tang, and whoever else matters in NY need to click up and make a we are the world album. I’m not for NY (Detroit in this Bitch), but I recognize that rap has suffered since it moved down South. I’m not hating either. But ask your self would hits of 2005-07 been hits 5 or 10 years ago. Hell No.
aint nobody reading that shit u lame ass nigga
kanye = homosexual
CURTIS sept 11th
jay will be king til he die. dont understand how people still be tryna find a new king of ny. first it was biggie, then he died, and jay took over the throne. til someone take over jay joint, i dont see another king or even someone who is coming close. let’s be real, ain’t nobody on jay level. the closest is nas. but he dont have that swag to it to really run ny. he more in the cut, behind the scenes of things. no disrespect to nas, but jay like being in the limelight.
Go get Curtis Stept.11
If people can stop being emotional and look at more than lyrical content, 50 is the King of NY. Is he the best rapper? Nope, but he’s the King. He sparks the most interest, he sells the most records, has a classic, and is the most relevant of NY dudes. I don’t see how Kanye could be the King based on your points.
Kanye didn’t come from the mold of what The Roc is/was-the nigga didn’t even have Jay behind him at first. Your whole perspective seems to come from what niggaz are wearing. I won’t front and say ‘Ye didn’t influence a whole group of people as far as clothing is concerned, but that doesn’t make him the King of NY.
I can’t even recall a time where I’ve heard someone refer to him as the King of Chicago, so how could he be in the conversation of King of NY?
But then again, maybe someone could ATTEMPT to make that argument. It’s just the fact that what you’re using to back up your logic makes no sense.
King of NYC? Nah Nigga…..More like King of The Village (NYC) for that gay ass nigga….
LOL
Oh and before dickriders start catching feelings, Jay-Z is relevant, but not in the way that 50 is because Jay-Z isn’t even at that competitive level anymore IMO. In addition to this, he’s being pushed aside as the best rapper by the younger generation. I hear younger kids (15 or 16 years old and under) refer to T.I and Lil Wayne as better rappers than Jay-Z, so shit is skewed. Plus there’s too much in the air, I think Jay would have to go at 50 to prove who’s the real king (a la Nas), but Jay’s not that rapper anymore anyway.
50 might not have a lot of topics to talk about on his album. but his album has lot of texture to it.that why his album sells 10 time as much as each different hiphop artist and rap artist these days. so maybe he should be crowned king of NYC. and if he not he still going to sell lot of record. so one way or another he is his own business working king.
this has to be the dumbese post slash stupid fuckn dick head music listneres u ran into in history real how the fuck can kanye be king of ny and hes from chicago comeo on ow those lil fake bringing the 80s bac dressing niggaz is corny they all dress the same with stupid shit man fuck them and kangay west
50 is the king of the rap game not only does he stop these wack rapper that go at him from eating but the nigga also can help nigga structure a deal that ya wont know about he is curently helping joe buddens and he got maino a deal with one fuckn phone call to atlantic and the nigga runs interscope…lol if thats not being the king of music hiphop rap r&b then i dont know what is,hes the king of music period
number 20 has a point there
How the fuck is Kangay King of NY, he not even King of Chicago! I guess the writer stumbled into a gay part of town because nobody I know wears any of that shit. Pink watches, veils over the face, Marty Mcfly shoes. This nicca clothing line is called Pastelle??!! Curtis has been King since 2003. He gets the most buzz, sells the most records, and sparks the most interest. People won’t even respond to Kangay posts unless 50 was involved. Ola, would you ride with a nicca whose bumping Stronger?? I just got to know.
i aint got to tell you if 50 the king of NYC…curtisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss that should tell you
of corse he the king of NYC… he a g-unit gorilla king kong 5o did ya forget.
WTF is this?
I don’t need to repeat whats been said…Kanye is not the king of NY.
And umm… since when did Kanye put people on to Bape? I remember Complex magazine had him critiquing outfits and Omarion [yes, Omarion] had on some Bapes and Kanye said how he was wearing things that represented brands that they weren’t made by. Saying how his sneakers looked like Nikes, but they weren’t by Nike… ummm…ok.
Why are people dickriding this guy!! 50 kicked your dog, fucked your wife?? I just don’t get it. Graduation is good, but its not as good as late registration, WE ALL KNOW THAT. Don’t you people realize that we count on you to be somewhat impartial. This shit seems like some kind of highway robbery where you gone say Graduation is better even though you know its not. Give props where props are due!!!! Against all odds Curtis is the better album, ADMIT IT!!!!!!! Stop the hate.
kings of ny is nas jay 50
I just don’t believe how good Curtis is! Its amazing. I thought 50 had lost it, and Graduation would destroy Curtis, but its the other way around. I just don’t believe how good this shit is. Backpackers had me convinced that Kanye was the new King; They were wrong.
Jamaicans set the trendz for the world. Every body and they daddies rockin tight shirts and tight jeans not knowin people in the Caribbean been doin it since around 2000 (if that). You have a few people who arent ready to trade in their Tims for a pair Bapes yet however I’m startin to see more and more people give in, niggaz at skool who wore two sizez too big last year now wearin two sizes too small this year. Its a new era takin over and that “urban thug” look is gonna start fadin away, sooner than later we gonna look back and we gone say what people in the 90s said about people in the 70’s, “I cant believe they wore that back then!” Trust and the babies being born now in 15 years are gonna look back at what we wore 5 years ago like WTF?
CO-SIGN WITH #20 ^
KANYE WEST,KING OF NYC?AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
i dont know about this king of ny shit. but i got to listen to both curtis and graduation. and in my opinion graduation is a sick album why better than curtis. 50 is still on that same ol shit. dont get me wrong curtis is a good album but graduation is a hot album. fav track on graduation flashing lights it a soulful song. and ive seen them both preform live and kanye is a way better stage preformer than 50. kanye right know with just three albums and all the tracks that he has produced for other artist. is hall of fame status. im not hating on 50 curtis is a hot album.
kanye west…king of GAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
LOL @ people obviously not reading the article.
Tired of this Kanye/50 cent shit. True it probably brings in the traffic but eh I’m done with it. Now its who wears what that influences the masses the most?
NYC is style. But I’m glad you mentioned the Shottas shit. Them the only niggas I knew, 5-6 years ago, who were rocking shit that niggas is rocking now. No Kanye influence there.
But no mentioned of the 80s craze going on?
Anyway, Kanye is not the “King of NY.” Hip Hop is. Hip Hop usually dictates everything. And to the designers who use what’s on the streets of NY as their inspiration, “Urban” runs New York.
kanye west…king of louie vatannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
kanye west…king of sampled ass classic musicccccccccccccc
Anon for once I agree with you my dude….I hope that all these rappers and U.S. “trendsetters” state where they got they style and swag from and stop with the bullshit. Niggaz
need to acknowledge and respect where this rockstar/skater boy style came from, no not from the rock dudes or skater boys, but from the Caribbean, primarly Jamaica.
MIAMI305, No beef homie, I just don’t understand your logic. I know opinions vary, but damn dogg, how you from Miami, thug nation, and cosign Graduation. Please tell me what song off that gay robot shit you rolling with. Once again, I’m not into e fighting , I just need to be enlightened on you choice. I’ll STILL KILL, MAN DOWN, I GET MONEY, TOUCH THE SKY, CURTIS 187, PEEP SHOW, FULLY LOADED CLIP, STRAIGHT TO THE BANK, FIRE; I just don’t understand; unless its the wayne diss that you mad at. I KNOW MIAMI, and none of you niccas bumping Stronger; especially in the Impala.
HOV is and ALWAYS WILL BE the KING OF NY…He holds the throne and is the OWNER of the team/rappers in the game(with the exception of Nas/EM(he not from NY though)…If HOV decided to drop a single tomorrow, it would blow EVERY single (that is supposedly hot) out the ball park, right now…But, where is the challenge in that?…HOV is chillin and playin BOSS and I don’t blame him…lol
“critics might not admit it
But nobody in rap did it, quite like I did it
If you did it I done it before, you get I had it
Got mad at it and don’t want it no more
And that goes for everything from flippin that raw
Flippin whores, flippin vocal chords, don’t get it twisted
Get it right, did different, did it better, did it nice
Did the impossible then did it twice (get it right)…” -Hov
NUFF SAID…HOV IS THE KING and NO ONE ELSE…
P.S. Don’t you actually have to reside in NY (Kanye/50), to be considered the KING OF NY…I’m just sayin…
…and, co-sign with Smitty313 & VAVA
harder, better, faster, stronger, is this nigga getting rape or something.sound gay is hell
it actually be called… stupid, boring,and gay, from ye,
IS KANYE THE KING OF NEWYORK? REALTALK U A DIK RIDER HOW CAN HE KING OF NEW YORK WHEN HE’S FROM CHICAGO???? EVERYBODY KNOW JAY RUN SHIT …50 LIKE THA VICE PRESIDENT HAHAAH -100-
There’s only one person who’s style, swagger, talent, and hustle represents and is the embodiment of New York.
the nigga aint even from ny how he the king of it, fuck that shit…50 aint the king either
O shit,Just saw the many men video.50 did start that Trend.
The whole jersey craze - Jay started, Fab followed - made it popular.
I do recall Jay making every on the planet (peers included) wear button ups though.
it’s impossible for kanye to be king of N.Y.C. when he’s from CHICAGO dumbass
damn this is still a topic of interest
well until somebody can dethrone Jay-Z, i guess hes still the king. i mean he is the most influentual rapper for the last wut 10 years especially recently. when it comes to fashion, jay started/ended the jersey phase and started the “grown up” look which EVERYBODY followed. lyrically, besides biggie and nas theres no competition, especially amongst the rappers today.
lastly it is about the respect. U CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD, BUT IF DON’T HAVE RESPECT FROM UR PEERS AND FANS, THEN U HAVE NOTHING. until somebody can ether jay (good try dipset) hov is still the dude w/ the crown.
shout out to my Farmington, CT neighbor curtis “fuck jimmy” jackson lol. fat joe cant be king cuz c’mon hes fat joe.
why are people about kanye like he a fuckin legend. 50 should be the legend he way better then kanye. and then ya sayin 50 brainwash us with his music. well at least he did a better job then kanye. and why do ya keep talkin about kanye classic music 50 had better classic music that actually sold more record.and 50 club music sell more then kanye classic music.club music sell more then classic music anyway.
lol SMH at niggas catching feelings
“sensitive thugs, ya’ll all need hugs” — Jay-Z
Ola, are you in New York?? Cause I know Jay is the godfather of all this ish, and hes a g, but his reign is over. Jay don’t even make music no more. He’s just like the godfather, and 50 is Micheal Corleone. Not as respected as Vito, but he’s the one making major moves for the family. I heard somebody say before that 50 is Jay’s Luca; but he’s Micheal; he takes out Jay’s trash (Dipset, Lil Wayne), but hate it or love it 50 runs New York.
if 50 takes out Jay’s trash (dipset, lil wayne) wouldnt Jay be running 50, therefore wouldnt jay be running NY hahahaa.
dont make analogies.
we all kno kanye aint the king of ny, why was this even a topic?
ny needs to forget bout having a king and stop the madness that is southern rap music
i dunno bout king of NY.
buh king of hip hop?
fa shurrrrr
man did ppl forget that september 11th is far more important than 50 & kanye’s album.
Jay and 50 have a strange relationship. What I meant by that analogy is that Jay is a figurehead, like Vito, but he not running day to day ops. Not to get to deep in this godfather talk, but I feel it best describes there relationship. 50 is the new king making moves, and I believe Jay respects him, more than anyone else. And the only person 50 hasn’t went at is Jay (after that how to rob, and summer jam shit). Jay seems to have given 50 the kingdom; how else to describe the I get money remix, and collabs on Freeway project. Like I said they have a strange relationship; but 50 runs new york now.
Jay respects 50s hustle/hunger; 50 repects Jays greatness.
iight i get wut ur trying to say
when it comes to 9/11 ppl need those albums to drop or atleast one of those albums to drop that day to somewhat forget about the whole 9/11 anniversary
as far as im concerned these ny niggas need to step their weight up and stop having yung joc outsell u. i mean ti, luda, ugk, jeezy and outkast are dope but these soulja boys, dj unks, hurricane chris has GOT TO STOP. theyre selling more records then ny rappers, SMH.
I can clearly tell a lot of you did not read the article… NIGGAS DONT READ!!! the author explains why he ASKED this question.. Kanye and Pharell influence the dress of a lot of peeps in new york… Maybe not you but look around.. Look at the videos…look at other rappers.. So if you still wearing your baggy pants and a nightgown for a t-shirt, this doesnt apply to you…lol
to be honest i dont mind reading a long comment because someone is trying to explain their point,,, these curtis sept 11 dudes i just skip over… They just taking up space… this is not about who is king of new york.. if you read its about how he dress and how his fasion style is changing new yorkers.. it talks about a few other rappers that changed fasion styles… READ.. you might learn something
^ lol shut up son he only changing niggaz into homo’s CURTIS 9/11 haha Keep hattiing it bitch cop one 4 ur self to
ayo curtis aint tha best but he def RUNNIN NEW YORK TRUST ME bet that up
fuck kanye hes a fashion gangsta
50 is the king of ny, if any body is king. LOL!
yes kanye dresses a certain way….BUT NOOOOOOOO…. he is not the originator of the “hipster” look hes just a famous person that wears it so it automatically makes him the HEADLINER for it!!! for example he always wears a GSHOCK watch but if u ask him he will tell you that he got that from PHARRELL…and if u read the article in complex he talks about looking at fashion on MYSPACE and BITING what he sees….
p.s. GET OF KANYES DICK!!!! PLEASE
yo kanye album is garbage he trying to get sales just off the whole kanye vs 50 bullshit…..50 album is 20 times better then kanye….i got both of them shit off the net already but i got the clean version of curtis and i rather hear that then them 13 garbage tracks on graduation….that peep show wit em is a club banger….common album is better then kanye…..fuck graduation u better off spendin your money on talib album…..fuck graduation…curtis gonna make kanye get left back….send that fagget back to summer school
ya’ll dudes is funny on here 4real. so i see once again the 50 fans and the kanye fans are at it again.
i fucks wit kanye (for the record) and i’m from brooklyn. he dont really run new york. but new yorkers dont wanna dress like every day same shit fitted hat to the side 50 at all, nyc is about being 1st & being fresh. kanye tries to stay a step ahead every year, that alone gets him wit upper class hip hop.
music and fashion, (I) dont want to hear dr.dre beats no more i’m over it, its old and wack to me. i want new creative beats over new creative points of view.
the world start riding our dicks so we switched it up, and we will continue to switch it up as time goes on.
kanye fans dont dress like kanye (not me) and dont do any gay shit, i gets it in, trust.
50 fans, are ya’ll all really gangsta, this is just a question dont piss your pant. do ya’ll sling cracks, do ya’ll bust your gun, have u been shot 7,8,9 times. and if not do u want to, please answer that. cuz i know gangstas, real gangstas, real killers.
we always say real recognize real right. real killers i know dont respect 50 cuz of his music and real gangstas know that what they do isnt to be glorified and repeated on an everyday all good basis. even jay told ya’ll what he did and he tries to steer u away. thats my mindset whats yours?
being gangsta aint hard to do, being kanye is.
I’m wit shorty… I aint read the wholllleee thing.. The shit was type long…
But I will say ima ‘Ye fan…. he aint the king of NY by farrrr!!
But he doing his thing and he SHOULD be the king on Sept. 11th
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kanye is trying to get sales off 50???!!
50 hasnt dropped an album yet without a cloud of gimmick floating above.
everytime he drops an album he does something to bring attention to his cd, something irrelevant to the quality of his music.
while he was underground he did the whole “robbin erybody in the industry shit”, so he can get some shine.
then he has the beef with ja rule.
then he has the beef with fat joe.
then he has the beef with cam’ron.
now its this whole little kanye west thing.
is it all coincidence that he always has a gimmick wheneva he is dropping an album???
other people use advertisements, hot singles and such.
50 cent uses controversy.
him and game should just be friends, both of them cant keep other peoples names out of their mouth.
im not buying curtis or graduation on 9/11.
If you’re not from NY you shouldn’t even post a comment.
First it was Big Daddy Kane, Then Nas was King of Ny briefly…summer on 94′, then of course then Notorious B.I.G. Now Jay Z is still King of New York by default…no one has that type of track record for as long. 50 had the bump in the road with the whole “rat thing” so Jay Z never lost the title.
RTNY, I see what you’re trying to do and no disrespect to the visitors but its obvious most of them are some idiots. Niggas read the title and think they got the gist of the whole article. Then people want to rise up when they’re told to “read a book, nigga!”
I seriously don’t think most of the visitors are ready for thought-provoking editorials. Pics, youtube vids and some comments, yes. Thought-provoking shit, no. Shits painfully obvious.
Real Talk im disapointed that you guys would even say 50 started rock star epidimic that waz a loose wife beater with a skull smh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aWeZosFoU0
Nas and Jigga are the Kings of NY ,Kanye is the mayor of Chicago
duece5000, i see where you are coming from. trust me i know that 50 album is gangsta and all those songs that you mentioned are fire. im just feeling kanye right now. and i can care less about the lil wayne diss. to me he aint number one rapper right know. fuck weezy kissing baby. he’s not even on me top 4. the dude in my opinion has only 2 hot albums. eveerything he has come out with before the carter albums are trash. trust me i got curtis on my ipod right know and i am bumping that hard. but i like kanyes album a little better. oh and one more thing im born and raised in brooklyn ny. im just down here because the weather is nicer lol. holla at me duece5000.
PPL DO NEED TO READ THE ARTICLE BETTER, ITS TALKING ABOUT FASHION,
BUT THE PERSON WHO WROTE THIS HAS TO BE A FAGGOT, OR MUST LIVE IN A REALLY GAY SECTION OF NY,
TRUST ME THE FASHION IN NY IS MORE 50, DIPSET TYPE STUFF, I COME FROM BK AND NO WHERE DO I SEE PPL WEARING LOUIS V., PINK WATCHES, SPARKLED TIGHT SHIRTS AND BALL GAGGING JEANS,
THAT FAG CAN KEEP HIS OPINIONS TO HIMSELF, THE ONLY PPL THAT WEAR STUFF LIKE KANYE ARE FAGS AND AND CORNY ASS WHITE PPL
I DONT SAY THIS AS SOMEONE WHO HATES KANYE OR LOVE 50 BUT THAT THE TRUTH
COP WHATEVER ALBUM YOU WANT ON SEPT 11, CUZ IM DOWNLOADING BOTH
LMAO @ being gay because of what you wear. Guess you’ve never heard of the word ‘homothug.’
kanye west isnt the king of new york but he deff started that whole swag.graduation beats curtis by far
To wtf and others who say we haven’t read the article, when I first commented I stated that the writer must have stumbled into a gay section of town, scroll up and see; but this blog isn’t Vouge so I left the fashion shit alone. He seems to also say Kangay was repping New York which is UTTER BULLSHIT. Miami305, I can respect your comments on Graduation, I’m not feeling it too much, but at least you ststed that Curtis has some hardcore bangers; not like some people who labelled a pop record. I respect your opinion.
64 must dress like a fag too
why is 50 considered so hard and gangsta?
Ayo Technology?
Amusement Park?
Candy Shop?
Disco Inferno?
#68 no hes hard gangsta for tracks like…
how to rob
realest niggaz
piggy bank
backseat
backdown
many men
and this can u continuein like 2 hours
50 is the king of selling the most album. beefing with artist. and being the rawest go gettin hustler in show business that all.curtisssssssssssss
How you hard when you gangsta one second and then you bubblegum the next………..How you hard when you tellin on people through your tracks………. How hard when get shot and doon’t shot back ………….How you hard when you a male a you get jealous of another nigga…………..50 cent is nowhere near gangsata SMFH at you niggaz sayin 50 cent gangsta
king of new york? kanye ain’t even the king of the Chi. maybe queen of the village. new york needs to focus on unity amongst their artist, and originality. jus cuz people dress a certain way doesn’t mean whomever they get their style from is the king. if thats the case tommy hilfiger was the king of new york. stupid.
71. watch the beef3 dvd.. U have people 50 grew up w/, now niggas he dont fck w/ , saying that 50 was no soft ngga in the hood… so when u got niggas he actually grew up w/saying that, and people who dont even like him saying that shit, that means something.. u need to stop goin off what other people in the industry say about him.. if u think about it 50 is one of a few rappers that u can actually go back to there hood an have people say that 50 did his thing really.. all these other rappers yall like ,who talk about it in they records didnt really live it, u heard pimp c , they lying… a very few rappers have lived the life they rap about, and 50 is one of them
King of NYC WHAT? Jesus hell no we don’t rock that metro sexual shit around here.I’m really starting to believe what 50 saying. Yall won’t admit this nigga is the KING OF NYC.At first when he said that bullshit i was like “Hell No” myself.But now i’m starting to see yall niggas is just straight hating on 50. He not the nicest the MC nor will he ever be. But at far as wealth status and how he reps us. I will take him anyday other then YE.
YE ain’t even from here fuck yall talking about? How disrespectful would that look if i our king is from another state.
lol SMH lemme tell u guys suttin 50 isnt as “hard” as sum of u think. i mean he sells records off of “amusement park” “ayo technology” “jus a lil’ bit” “candy shop” LOLOL. real gangsta niggas, i mean REAL KILLERS don’t listen to dat shit. real gangsta niggas listen to more jus HOOD/UNDERGROUND shit like jadakiss, pimp c, styles p. these niggas dont and prolly will never have big record sales but all their singles are GANGSTA RECORDS, not singing hooks.
50 has “gangsta” records that will never be singles cuz he knows that it wont make him any money. pimp c, styles p. dont give a flying fuck bout anything so every song they do is on sum gutter hard record.
@ Anon
thas the difference between a real gangsta and a “homothug” but they both dress the same haha.
like dolo said on the previous post, “real niggas don’t sing on records, but 50 ‘harmonizes’ on records, oh yaa thas the difference” hahaa
lol SMH at ppl really taking this 9/11 thing so serious. u guys fail to realize that both 50/kanye will put up big numbers that u guys wont see, yet u act like ur gettin a piece of the check.
“sensitive thugs, ya’ll all need hugs” — Jay-Z
^ The fans are always big piece of the puzzle .Who buys records and all there other carp they sell?… the fans.opinion don’t matter but our money does.
READ A BOOK
well kanye isnt the king of ny, i dont really think ny has a king at this time ’round
Jay Z, Talib Kweli, Nas, Saigon. Just give New York sometimje if you want some freshness. New York will have a king again niggaz. I love my city!
Is it true that Kanye moves to NY for right now. I heard something like he stays in NY right now. I just wanna know. And to answe ryour question. Jay is not only the king of New York, he the king of hip hop period. Aint no one from the east, west or south that on his level. He’s on a whole different level. He’s the only on that level. Most of the hottest rappers in the game are associated or took some of thier style from Jay. Kanye, Jeezy, Wayne, Tip. He makes me proud that I’m a New Yorker like no other rapper besides Nas and Big has ever done. But Big died and Nas don’t got that swag like someone else said. 50 could be king in a few more years when Jay knocks 40 but he might still be king at 40. Age aint nothing but a number people. Remember that. Jay gonna be around for a long time. So get fucking used to him.
I respect everybodys opinion but to me Nas the last real nigga alive
unlike kanye 50 has done so much for hip hop with his get rich or die tryin album, beg for mercy, and the massacre album, he has brought out lot of real good music and i must agree… when you think that there is no good music in hip hop you could depend on 50 to come out with a good album. and songs that can impact you. 50 is the perfect complement to the hip hop vibe. and i already no that 50 will outsell kanye on sept 11.and if he doesn’t then hip hop will not only be dead but it will have to be cremated. 50 music is the only shit that i respect. and i hope 50 beat kanye gay album. cause 50 album is a raw art form of heavy dose in hip hop. and 50 is also hip hop number one man.copin curtis
Hahhaha jim jones is the king of ny he had niggaz dressing like the tight shit he been doing it since his first album jimjones got niggas 4 gettn bout tims and wearing nike acg boots that’s why his swagg is crazy
here goes a link to were they are getting the shoe style from myspace.com/iceykicks4u
my name is were they get there style
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yo wht this dude knowledge is felt how ever this obstervation does not apply to everyone for everyone does not look at jay-z first then pharell then kanye and say im gonna dress like this now.growng up in brookyln and harlem gave me a versitlity in style harem /the bx styles were was more hip hop influenced hood ish vansons coogis vasquez pelle pelle pepe jeans nautica sweats.brooklyn ws more shotta high fashion moschino versace that biggie hov (brooklyn)ish.kanye and pharelle have bread but there not trend setters by my standards.in 98 when i was in junior high everybody was polo 67ed out in bk that was 80% of your wardrobe any fresh dude can relate and say church .pharell came to ny started hanging around the soho les sceene and started taking notes artsie people.im a fahion designer therefore i predict and dictate whats fashionable and whats a trend.not these dudes because these dudes are told what to do by my industry.they buy the magazines and imitate the photo shoots and they have stylist they didnt create blazers,or dunks,or what ever they just made it cool for the mainstream and the hood to do it. kanye watch nyc style and enhnces it cause he has more money then the erage dude.if you ask me japanese are the trend setters at this moment when it comes to street wear.
ohhh yeah jay-z is the king of hip hop not just ny
no rapper is on his level….when it comes to everythng besides lyrics
#88 u knw i didnt say that.. thats the second time u switched my words around.. biggie sang. so y would i say that.. its all about lyrical content gay kanye fan
Kanyes the king, period.
kanye is a fagget louie vatan son of a bitch,period
50 the king of NYC… and jigga is one of the king of HIP HOP.
you have other KING of hip hop not just jigga.
number 100… kanye ain’t no KING what so ever. even in sesame street he ain’t a KING. kanye ain’t even strong enough to be a KING. cause if he was he would end up getting his bitch ass purple album louie vatan purse wearing ass beat up.kanye the king of gay, trans, and diks,
kanye is a homosexual classic thug.
dolo
finally admitting that 50 ’sings’ or ‘harmonizes’ as u put it on records SMH.
dont compare 50 to biggie cuz biggie was jus on a whole ‘nother level of lyricism. i mean comparing 50 to biggie is like comparing john stockton to magic johnson. they both got the job done but magic and biggie made it look/sound so much better.
lol its funny jay/nas had beef and when they squashed it they made ‘black republican’ which was hot.
if ja/50 ever squashed their publicity stunt, i mean ‘beef’ and did a collabo it would be both of ‘em ‘harmonizing on a record LOL.
what ever happened to real gangsta music?
gangster music is still alive and you would get a chance to listen to it on sept 11. cause ain’t nobody better then 50 when it come to gangster music.cop his album you’ll see
50.cent CURTIS album has that ‘get rich or die tryin’ beats. and it has the massacre flow. it has a little bit of both plus more. and it tight
ola when r u going to make a point w/out having to change my words up.. when did i compare 50 to biggie. and when did i say he harmonizes…. this is what happens when people knw they lost an arguement, they start lying… u comparing kanye to 50 is like comparing a boss to a worker.. kanye is not on 50’s level, u and i both knw that.. ur just a 50 hater, u hate him because u dont want to see a gangsta nigga making money talkin shit… u would rather see a backpack nigga w/a tight knitted sweater making money but u dont see that, so u hate on 50…and may i add, there has only been about 3 people to change the game the way 50 did back in 03, no one has came on the scene like 50, other than biggie, and dmx.. when biggie came out everybody was on him, when dmx came out everyone was on him, and the same for 50.. when he came out OLA, U WERE ON HIM TOO.. NOW SIT HERE AND SAY U DIDNT LIKE HIM..
why did kanye copy 50 word in the song GOOD LIFE.’and if they hate then let them hate and watch the money pile up’.first he sample beat now he stealing words. be original ye
kanye is cool but dont compare him to 50 cause 50 ’still will kill’ him.copin curtis
Really like is that a rhetorical question?
I appreciate all of you who commented on the article after they read it. For those who didn’t and have commented, it is difficult to note your intellegience, therefore; even note your comments.
I personally believe that the undisputed KoNY and the Game, is 50. But 50 is putting himself at a point that his creativity may lose it’s relevence. 50 seems to represent the brute force of the corporate and boss elements of hip-hop, without his being totally controlled by the establishment i.e. “F*Ck Jimmy Iovine”.
Someone earlier stated that currently Hip-Hop is the King of NYC, and I agree with that sentiment. 50 and Kanye represent the conflicts that have always been represented within hip-hop. Gangsterism vs. Creativity, neither of these artist are devoid of using either of these motifs. Somebody please pick up the “Paid in Full mixtape” where Kanye is only rapping Gangsta ish. Somebody cop 50’s first album, Power of the Dollar, listen to “Bodega dreams”, “How to Rob”,”As the world turns”, and his early mixtape and recognize that intermingled within the beef was a lot of creativity, depth, and fun. Anyone remember how good the 2050 mixtape was? It was excellent. 50 came in like Jay, as a hustler. When you’re a hustler, your allegiance is to the hustle and 50 is standing close to that mantra. He represents the business ethic of hip-hop, while Kanye represents the creative ethic of hip-hop. For 50 the business supercedes the art form, not because he does not care about hip-hop, but because he is from the bottom and refuses to go back. I agree with that point of view. Kanye is middle-class Afrikan-american, and his perspective is of the struggle from that position, where we often forget that the struggle does not end with class progression.
Read the article and thx for your support
Mr. Reed
“Claiming that I am guilty of sacrilege would be too immediate without letting me develop my argument or devilish advocacy of message board conversation.”
kanye ain’t shit…comparing him to 50 ya must be CRAZY.
the different between 50 and kanye is that 3 million people are voting for kanye. and 10 million people are voting for 50 and we will win.period,
u got that right 118
THE REAL SMART GUY OUT OF ALL THIS IS “REALTALKNEWYORK” JUST THINK… WHENEVER HE PUT UP A KNAYE OR 50 POST NO MATTER WHAT ITS ABOUT HE GETS OVER 100 COMMENTS.. BRINGS PEOPLE TO THE SITE AND MAKES MONEY FOR HIM… GOOD JOB REALTALK… I WOULD DO THE SAME MYSELF…
nah its not kanye, kanye dont dress with skulls and shit its really dip set juelz and jim jones ya dig
hip hop to kanye is classic music and that ain’t hip hop get it straight dog.
kanye and 50 album is next week tuesday get ready kangay fan it time to lose.
for all ya’ll dip fans, how easily you forget about the whole pink era, no one claims that fashion move, i once heard jim jones diss kanye’s clothing sayin his pants were too tight, then he goes and wears the tightest jeans in hiphop by far.
kanye is just as hip hop as 50 is. hip hop is bout being fresh, new, and not caring what they say. if REAL hip hop heads were scared of what people think, the rest of the world wouldnt be biting are style. yea kanye pushes the envelope alot sumtimes but his musical mindset tells u he’s on another level. 50 is a rapper…. kanye is an artist, hip hop is an artform. when u listen to kanye u can tell that he is about being artistic and not about rap. without his artistic view, there would be no blueprint. and alot of great music from jay,kanye or anybody else he worked with would’ve been lost.
mr.reed got it right i juss wanna see who gonna sell more,which side iz gonna win
Until someone fills Jay-z shoes, he is still King of New York.
” I am about them dollars, what the fuck is 50 cent”…Jay-z
Good to see you’re doing ur thing on RealtalkNY Mr Reed, I read your first post a couple months ago and liked it.
dolo u said 50 sing on records, he ‘harmonizes’ on records point blank lol get over it SMH. 50 was cool til i heard ‘the massacre’ and the fake beefs, havent been a fan since.
Yo Kanye album is garbage. I just got that 5o cent shit. That shit is fire. I gotta go cop that curtis. I gotta show my support.
-Redd G chi-town boung
Ola the massacre is better than any kanye album..
wtf? cosign #12 and anybody else who stated the fact that u cant be the king of ny if u aint from New York
im a kanye fan
but that throne belongs to hov
cant be the king of ny
when u aint even from ny
thats whats wrong with the black youth anybody that dresses different or listens to different music etc.. is considered gay like kanye pharrel common they all have their own swagga but they came from the hood also but people constantly saying their gay no you all are stupid for not being able to think outside of that hood mentality
as far as kanye king of nyc news flash hes from chicago so thats a dstupid topic to begin with how can u be the king of somewhere youre not even from he still fiya though chitown doing it big
Na allow dat Kanye aint no King of new york allow dat kuz Jigga man iz get me