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	<title>Comments on: Time Magazine Overhyping Rap&#8217;s Decline In Sales?</title>
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		<title>By: BIG MIKE!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG MIKE!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if rap wants to bump it&#039;s sales back up,it has to come with something better then &quot;chicken noodle soup with a soda on the side&quot; or&quot;superman dat ho&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if rap wants to bump it&#8217;s sales back up,it has to come with something better then &#8220;chicken noodle soup with a soda on the side&#8221; or&#8221;superman dat ho&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: BIG MIKE!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>BIG MIKE!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Aug 2007 10:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with #24 wholeheartedly...

you cats act like bootlegging is some kind of new phenomenon...it ain&#039;t!!!!

filesharing has been around a while now but that didn&#039;t stop  
rappers from moving units in the past(50 cent,jay-z,etc,etc,etc).it all comes down to this simple fact..if you make a good product,people will buy it.that&#039;s true for any product....why exactly should somebody be willing to spend 15 or 16 dollars on a CD that only has 2 or 3 good tracks on it???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with #24 wholeheartedly&#8230;</p>
<p>you cats act like bootlegging is some kind of new phenomenon&#8230;it ain&#8217;t!!!!</p>
<p>filesharing has been around a while now but that didn&#8217;t stop<br />
rappers from moving units in the past(50 cent,jay-z,etc,etc,etc).it all comes down to this simple fact..if you make a good product,people will buy it.that&#8217;s true for any product&#8230;.why exactly should somebody be willing to spend 15 or 16 dollars on a CD that only has 2 or 3 good tracks on it???</p>
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		<title>By: dolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>technology was alive when 50 sold 12 million, technology was alive when 50 sold 11 million.. im not saying the sales decline has nothing to do w/technology , but a big part of the decline has to do w/the music thats out. bootlegging has been around for decades.. if good music is being released people will buy it.. if music is not good or only appeals to little kids ,little kids r going to b the only people buying music.. and if technology played a big part in the sales decline , y did jay go gold in the first week... he didnt continue to sell because the album wasnt that great..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>technology was alive when 50 sold 12 million, technology was alive when 50 sold 11 million.. im not saying the sales decline has nothing to do w/technology , but a big part of the decline has to do w/the music thats out. bootlegging has been around for decades.. if good music is being released people will buy it.. if music is not good or only appeals to little kids ,little kids r going to b the only people buying music.. and if technology played a big part in the sales decline , y did jay go gold in the first week&#8230; he didnt continue to sell because the album wasnt that great..</p>
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		<title>By: Pounce</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pounce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agree w/ #22

With technology being alive, we should look at the target demographic for hip hop. Generally speaking those who listen to hip hop compared to other genres of music do not have the same financial stability in my opinion. 

Basically the majority of people who listen to hip hop don&#039;t make as much money as those who listen to Rock... generally speaking. And for those who want to dispute it then just look at the parents annual income of both demographics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agree w/ #22</p>
<p>With technology being alive, we should look at the target demographic for hip hop. Generally speaking those who listen to hip hop compared to other genres of music do not have the same financial stability in my opinion. </p>
<p>Basically the majority of people who listen to hip hop don&#8217;t make as much money as those who listen to Rock&#8230; generally speaking. And for those who want to dispute it then just look at the parents annual income of both demographics.</p>
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		<title>By: DeMarco Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>DeMarco Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 00:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First thing we must admit. Music on the whole has declined from a sales point. Is this necessarily due to the music quality declining? No, I don&#039;t agree with that statement at all.

To me it falls at the heart of technology spanning. Look at the growth of iTunes. I think Music is where it was tangentially 10 years ago. Except now instead of paying 15 bucks for a CD where you only want that one song, you can spend 1-2 bucks and get the song you want. MP3 players have replaced CD players so buying CDs no longer encapsulates the total sales an artist may incur.

When you look at the releases of the past 5 years it shows a grand domination of Hip Hop and RnB.

People have just gotten much smarter with spending money. Why buy an entire album for the 2-3 songs that you really want. Im sorry, I dont see any other genres blowing up the charts.

The Article talks about Jay-Zs sale numbers for Kingdom Come, however it fails to mention that Kingdom Come outsold the same following Albums in the same year from different genres:

Stadium Arcadium - Red Hot Chili Peppers
IV - Godsmack
10,000 Days - Tool
Taking the Long Way - The Dixie Chicks
Decemberunderground - AFI
Modern Times - Bob Dylan
The Open Door - Evanescence
Still the Same - Rod Stewart
Light Grenades - Incubus

Heck...only two Albums sold more its first week than Jay-Z did with Kingdom Come (680K): That was Justin Timberlake (684K) and Rascal Flatts (721K) and arguably JT falls in the hip hop influence category with most of his production coming from Timbaland.

Hip Hop is not dead. Technology is alive and it is a challenge for the music companies and the artists to adjust accordingly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First thing we must admit. Music on the whole has declined from a sales point. Is this necessarily due to the music quality declining? No, I don&#8217;t agree with that statement at all.</p>
<p>To me it falls at the heart of technology spanning. Look at the growth of iTunes. I think Music is where it was tangentially 10 years ago. Except now instead of paying 15 bucks for a CD where you only want that one song, you can spend 1-2 bucks and get the song you want. MP3 players have replaced CD players so buying CDs no longer encapsulates the total sales an artist may incur.</p>
<p>When you look at the releases of the past 5 years it shows a grand domination of Hip Hop and RnB.</p>
<p>People have just gotten much smarter with spending money. Why buy an entire album for the 2-3 songs that you really want. Im sorry, I dont see any other genres blowing up the charts.</p>
<p>The Article talks about Jay-Zs sale numbers for Kingdom Come, however it fails to mention that Kingdom Come outsold the same following Albums in the same year from different genres:</p>
<p>Stadium Arcadium &#8211; Red Hot Chili Peppers<br />
IV &#8211; Godsmack<br />
10,000 Days &#8211; Tool<br />
Taking the Long Way &#8211; The Dixie Chicks<br />
Decemberunderground &#8211; AFI<br />
Modern Times &#8211; Bob Dylan<br />
The Open Door &#8211; Evanescence<br />
Still the Same &#8211; Rod Stewart<br />
Light Grenades &#8211; Incubus</p>
<p>Heck&#8230;only two Albums sold more its first week than Jay-Z did with Kingdom Come (680K): That was Justin Timberlake (684K) and Rascal Flatts (721K) and arguably JT falls in the hip hop influence category with most of his production coming from Timbaland.</p>
<p>Hip Hop is not dead. Technology is alive and it is a challenge for the music companies and the artists to adjust accordingly.</p>
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		<title>By: dolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>dolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the reason sales r down is because of the nursery rhymes coming out.. all that down south bs.  everyone knws that the majority of people who buy music r white people and girls.. white people r not buying rap music that much anymore because hip hop is basically dead.. the only people nowadays who buy music is little 10-15 yr old kids who like that snap music or whatever u call it.. y do u think that a bay bay song is #1 on 106 park.. only little kids call in to vote.. but his album wont sell shit.. people need to stop wondering y album sales r down.. its right in front of ur face.. hip hop is dead period</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the reason sales r down is because of the nursery rhymes coming out.. all that down south bs.  everyone knws that the majority of people who buy music r white people and girls.. white people r not buying rap music that much anymore because hip hop is basically dead.. the only people nowadays who buy music is little 10-15 yr old kids who like that snap music or whatever u call it.. y do u think that a bay bay song is #1 on 106 park.. only little kids call in to vote.. but his album wont sell shit.. people need to stop wondering y album sales r down.. its right in front of ur face.. hip hop is dead period</p>
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		<title>By: blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha</title>
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		<dc:creator>blanco montana fuck ya lyfe ya guntha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CO SIGN 3 N TIME ISNT OVERHYPING IT STIOP IT REAltalk HOW MANY TIMES A DAY DO PEOPLE POST ON THIS WEB SITE N MANY OTHERS ......SO N SO THIS IS THE REASON HIP HOP IS DEAD OR OH I MISS THE OLD DAYS EVERY1 IS SAYING IT N ITS TRUE I FEEL HIP HOP ISNT WAT IT USED TO B I DONT KNOW IF ITS CUZ IM OLDER N SHYT ALWAYS SEMMED BETTER AS A KID OR IS IT REALLY DECLINING I THINK OVERALL NOT JUST RECORD SALES BUT QUALITY HAS DECLINED</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CO SIGN 3 N TIME ISNT OVERHYPING IT STIOP IT REAltalk HOW MANY TIMES A DAY DO PEOPLE POST ON THIS WEB SITE N MANY OTHERS &#8230;&#8230;SO N SO THIS IS THE REASON HIP HOP IS DEAD OR OH I MISS THE OLD DAYS EVERY1 IS SAYING IT N ITS TRUE I FEEL HIP HOP ISNT WAT IT USED TO B I DONT KNOW IF ITS CUZ IM OLDER N SHYT ALWAYS SEMMED BETTER AS A KID OR IS IT REALLY DECLINING I THINK OVERALL NOT JUST RECORD SALES BUT QUALITY HAS DECLINED</p>
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		<title>By: juicygotemcrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>juicygotemcrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, and #16</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, and #16</p>
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		<title>By: juicygotemcrazy</title>
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		<dc:creator>juicygotemcrazy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 is oh so right!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 is oh so right!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LOGIC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LOGIC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 13:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HIP-HOP IS BIGGER THAN EVER !!! I went to a seminar in Ny where Irv Gotti was speaking . He said dont let them fool you into thinking hip-hop isnt the biggest genre out . People are making millions , literally millions of dollars off ringtones alone . Hip-Hop unlike other genre&#039;s of music is a marketing MONSTER . Music overall took a hit because the mechanical sales of a cd are down . With all these I-pods , zunes and dell jukeboxes nobody buys cds anymore . Im kind of ashamed to walk around with my portable cd player anymore ( ima step it up soon ) . Irv also went on to say that . that hip-hop has a different age demographic than other genres . Example a robin thikce cd would probably have high mechanical sales oppose to Young joc . Being that alot of older people are a custom to going to a record store to buy a cd , as to were a young joc fan probably quite a bit younger is a custom to downloading it . It a whole genration of kids out there that just know how to download . aint that crazy . Where all also hurt by all the illgeal downloading . And just plain old trash albums with hot singles . I cant lie i fall victim to dowlaoding but i think the cd&#039;s hot i go and cop the official to support the artists . Hip-hop aint going anywhere though . We in the movies , fashion , they play our music on espn , during major sporting events . There&#039;s even a rapper in country music now . he&#039;s called the hip-hop cowboy ! i swear to god i seen him on the country music awards ( i was flipping throu the channels ) it was kind of funny . Check out some good music let me know what yal think 
www.myspace.com/ezlogic</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIP-HOP IS BIGGER THAN EVER !!! I went to a seminar in Ny where Irv Gotti was speaking . He said dont let them fool you into thinking hip-hop isnt the biggest genre out . People are making millions , literally millions of dollars off ringtones alone . Hip-Hop unlike other genre&#8217;s of music is a marketing MONSTER . Music overall took a hit because the mechanical sales of a cd are down . With all these I-pods , zunes and dell jukeboxes nobody buys cds anymore . Im kind of ashamed to walk around with my portable cd player anymore ( ima step it up soon ) . Irv also went on to say that . that hip-hop has a different age demographic than other genres . Example a robin thikce cd would probably have high mechanical sales oppose to Young joc . Being that alot of older people are a custom to going to a record store to buy a cd , as to were a young joc fan probably quite a bit younger is a custom to downloading it . It a whole genration of kids out there that just know how to download . aint that crazy . Where all also hurt by all the illgeal downloading . And just plain old trash albums with hot singles . I cant lie i fall victim to dowlaoding but i think the cd&#8217;s hot i go and cop the official to support the artists . Hip-hop aint going anywhere though . We in the movies , fashion , they play our music on espn , during major sporting events . There&#8217;s even a rapper in country music now . he&#8217;s called the hip-hop cowboy ! i swear to god i seen him on the country music awards ( i was flipping throu the channels ) it was kind of funny . Check out some good music let me know what yal think<br />
<a href="http://www.myspace.com/ezlogic" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/ezlogic</a></p>
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