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but yeah this nigga hating…………

he’s rich, ur not, get over it

It don’t matter Fabolous and Street Family Run Brooklyn now

Duke took too long to share this info, Jigga solidified! This aint hurting his image.

its sad that hip hop is about the streets. hip hop should be about the music.

alright you sell drugs. how does that have anything to do with music? i get it that you talk about the way you live but people are lifting up drug dealers and gangsters. thats not what hip hops is about.

@ 4 that may be some super real talk!

In my opinion for those who think freely and have listened to a wide range of music you could tell Jigga man (jigga =jake = Cops were i’m from) was a “swagger jacker” as they say now… For shizzle my nizzle! But dude did his thing to get where he is so as for now jay’s were he is, now it depends on political ties as to weather holmes can come up to be a real threat! (in the business realm cause any body can be touched!)
I seen somethin from this guy on DVD but didn’t know if it was gonna get this deep.

I think its more about being a snake in his personal life. A lot of people have said Jay is a scandalous dude outside of rap.

I’m a go for self type of person too, but you got to take care of the people you call friends and family. Ty-Ty not moving his moms out the projects until 2005 don’t add up…no matter how you look at it.

But Jay has made a name for himself due to his skill not so much his life as a drug dealer…IMO.

@ #5 it IS about that!

It use to be bout the music but now its about how much you’re worth (supposedly) how many units you sell (even if you buy your own sh!t) and how many people you can make believe you were the supplier man, ran a block or boro!

another wack mufuker tryin to go after some1 big for publicity stunt

well i jus listened 2 the interview and this dude is a clown 2 me. how can u build and man’s character and on the same breath attempt to tear it down LOL. u saying this and that, and then u said that u wanna work 4 jay if he’d hire u LOLOL. ur just bitter old man. LOL kay slay is a funny dude. he was all over nas when him and jay had their beef. jay and nas end their beef and kay slay dont even talk bout nas anymore. kay slay was riding w/ cam’ron when he was goin at jay, but hasnt said shit bout cam’ron since the 50 cent beef. kay slay is the epitome of a hater, ur whole career has been 2 try 2 end jay’s career but that aint gonna happen LOL. akon only hired dude cuz he was a “konvict” LOLOL. akon said he’d hire paris hilton cuz she is a “konvict” as well so its not like calvein klein got hired cuz of any talent. a funny quote from the interview is when he was saying how come jay-z won’t show ppl his crib on MTV CRIBS. why would he do that?? the ppl on mtv cribs dont even own the crib they “live in” (especially these rappers). the big money makers NEVER show their cribs on tv so crazy ppl can’t find where they live. puffy, hov, j.lo, beckhams, pitt, clooney, spielberg, gates, etc etc WILL NEVER BE ON MTV CRIBS

The streets and the rap game are totally different as much as people like to make it seem like they are the same.

Dudes talents aren’t rhyming atleast thats not the talent he made his name with…

KAY SLAY ALWAYS HATING ON JAY.

SO JAY WENT INTO CHARACTER? WELL NAS AND PAC HAVE STATED THAT THEY MIGHT PUT THEMSELVES IN SOMEONE ELSE’S POSITION AND WRITE ABOUT THAT.

END OF THE DAY, KLEIN NEVER PICKED ANY OF THE BEATS, DIDN’T CREATE ANY CATCHY HOOKS, MADE ANY DOPE METAPHORS, AND NEVER COMPOSED ANYTHING.

he didn’t discredit jay on his street shit cause as you heard he did say jay and him caught that murder chargre and he took the weight……now he can’t be mad cause Irv and them got put on blast and fucked up what him and jay had goin….if jay would’ve gave this man 1$ they would’ve did him the same as they did Irv and surpreme…….Jay is a smart man and makes smart moves!!

Remember what happened to Hammer when he tried to help everybody?? You cannot take the whole hood with you. Make yo own damn moves to move up and out! I wonder if this is dude real name or if he stole an old white mans name. Don’t hate cause Jay got that cake. And that shit about Money don’t make you happy?? Well I would rather be rich and unhappy rather than poor and unhappy. If you worth 28 million dollars why are you on the radio gossiping about the next man?

It’s hard to keep up with people you came up with and still be out there getting that success, this fake ass calvin clein just wants attention for his own ego

niggaz talk that street sh!t all day but all this disloyal talk is the reason the game and the black community in general are in the position we are. FROM WHAT I HEARD… A) dude HAD28 mil when he went to jail (while Jay- z left the game as a 6 figga nigga? but was pose to be a boss) B) Dude looked after Jay obviously to some point and helped his career out as did Biggs and Dame (jay shitted on em) Jaz (jay sh!tted on him too) and lastly the dude said he wanted to come home and WORK FOR HIS AS A MAN, and jay couldn’t even be a man and say I can’t do nothin for you, instead he lied (as the story is told) and had dude waiting on him while he jus had dude stuck in position while he plotted his own moves. and this story was a long time coming dude went out his way to still help jay (as the story is told ) yet jay don’t reciprocate real love as he says he did…

sh!t after big died he was even sh!ttin on big and big helped him too.

I definitely understand the whole Preme/Inc superstition, but they should have sat down and discussed that. And to some extent Klien should have known how hot he was and could be.

MAN plz….

This OG is mad at HOV. Because he’s succesful. And because JAY, didn’t find him a spot on his team. Dude is rich and has to stay away from certain individuals. Because, the HIP HOP POLICE is watching. If they choose to run an investigation on JAYZ and Co, that would affect his money flow and will also stop endorsements from coming in.

People need to step out the box and really see that money is more powerful than who you were and Hip HOP AT THAT.

It’s funny how dude says when he came out he was humble. And maybe if he had put his foot on Jigga’S neck he be getting something. And he know Jay ain’t gonna respond. AND HE BETTER NOT. Dude think he can’t be touched. Just like HOV can he also can be touched…WHY WOULD HE??????? Does it make any sense, to respond. It was JAY-Z, 16′S that made him a SUPERSTAR. Not calvin klein.

Why is rappers and people hating JAY-Z SO MUCH????????

ARE YALL MAD BECAUSE JIGGA IS WHO YALL WANNA BE???????

INSTEAD OF HATING HIM. THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY NEED TO BE HAPPY THAT SOMEONE WITH THE SAME STRUGGLES OVERCAME THE OBSTACLES AND MADE IT TO AN UNPRECEDENTED LEVEL. AND CONTINUES ON TRACK.

Why I DON’T CONSIDER AND WOULD SEE HIM IN THE SAME LIGHT IS PUFFY. BECASUE HE BECAME RICH OF HIS RAPPERS SWEAT AND TEARS. JAY-Z DID IT HIMSELF WHEN YOU THINK OF ROCAFELLA RECORDS YOU DON’T THINK OF NO ONE ELSE BESIDES Of HOVA. YOU CAN’T COUNT kANYE BECAUSE HE CAME AFTER JAY ESTABLISHED HIMSELF AND MADE IT KNOWN HE WAS THE ONE!!!!

DAME’S BUSINESS TACTICS DIN’T MAKE ROCAFELLA. IT WAS THOSE 16′S THAT Jigga was spitting that made people buy his music.
In the mid 90’s thru late 90’s thru early 2000’s, wack rappers wasn’t getting no respect. Even if you had a hard beat you still got no spins. So your music was very important. Nowadays all you need is a hard track. And you sell records…

That was so corney !!! if u not tripp’n why is yo azz on the radio. Jay please write this nigga a check !!!!

The thing Klein said about Jay-z vs. Dame Dash seems right though. Memphis Bleek vs. Juelz santana? Cmon… Dame Dash is more then whats been put out about him. Look what happened to the ROC after Dame left… cmon. Be Real.

haha kay slay sounds so retardd sometimes.

The only reason why peopl arent going to really feel the interview, is because kay slays fucking biasness.

#10,12 and 18 Could not have said it any better! Kay Slay has always been a hater of Jay-Z, and for what? Does anyone know why? #16 you are such a hater it just doesn’t make sense to even comment because it’s not even constructive crticism “It’s str8 hate!” Bottom line is he is 1.Rich and famous (A-List) 2. Doesn’t respond to haters 3. Fucking the best pussy money can afford(Beyonce) 4. let’s face it no matter how rich you are it takes a village to help a village not 1 man or he will be broke just ask MC Hammer! Nuff said so Kool Aid Dick in the ass for 14 years Klien can stop crying and lying and get a life…….Leave Jigga alone he is rubbing shoulders with presidents feeding hungry and needy children in Gabhan WHAT THE FUCK DUDE get a life stop lying on a sucessful black man and take more dick in yo ass because that what you like to do faggot! I know I sound pissed and I am because I hate when brothers and sistas can’t see the big picture and he obviously can’t. Grow up Calvin!

They’re just mad because they ain’t him. Mo money, mo problems, and jealousy and envy it’s just something that comes with the territory…that’s all. He has the potential to be the 1st billionare rapper in the game…of course they’re gonna be salty. lol

Ok this is my thing about this whole interview homie is bitter he is mad he isnt runnin around with jigga like ta ta and them. He doesnt realize hova is on a different level. He can run around with niggas who just did 13 year bid in jail. When he is havin dinner with clinton gates beckham. Chris martin bono and kings& queens. How is that gonna look. And that entire thing bout tata not movin his moms out marcy till 05. If your from ny u kno older ppl dont like to leave ny if the spend most of there lives there no matter what i have a aunt with 3 houses outside of new york in great areas. But she cant leave brooklynn to save her life it what she is about she love knowin everything is right there. I bet homie mom never had a need. It was all taken care of.

How can this dude be called an OG and then come and dry snitch on public radio!! He just wants to be known and in order to do that, he go to give storys about the dude that we all like to hear about, the dude that’s on top. Jay never rapped about running NY as a drug dealer, his core lyrics was always about flossin. Corny B!!!!

yall r saying that the dude is jus bitter but if u were him u know u would b pissed and bitter too no one is saying that jay or anyone that makes it big is supposed to help out everyone they grew up with or cool wit but there r certain ppl who u should be there for and once again if this wasnt jay z and it was someone else like 50 yall would be like his wack and disloyal

First off Kay Slay need to shut the fuck up he’s a dick riding cocksucker that’s always running his mouth. Second thing you don’t go on public radio to air out personal shit, you deal with that in house. Third off how Klein say Jay wasn’t scared he was a soldier in the street and in the same breath diss the nigga don’t make no sense

lol…cosign with K

#10 said it all

that man spoke alot of truth,yeah jay is rich now but he made himself rich by portraying himself as a mega drug dealer/hustler which he obviously wasn’t. till this day when he’s interviewed he says he was a drug dealer but yet people want to say he wasn’t glorifing it,when in most of his rhymes he speaks about running blocks, cutting coke, having pies and so forth,come on only drug dealers speak or those that act like they were one use that terminology. hes a great rapper but by far a better actor.im glad people he knew in past speak about the fake life he portrays he comes from when he was just like nas reading books,and looking out of project windows.but yet just because its about jay people are quick to yell hater when its any other rapper that person is called a fake,a stan and a pussy,come let the truth be told and learn.

yea this nigga is kind of speakin the real cause jay ain’t a in your face type of dude cause klein seems dissapointed that jay aint set him up unconditional but the thing i dont agree with is when these o.g’s come out and think they should be still at the top 50 Cent said it the best “OLD GOATS”. you see this a similar situation that 50 has with supreme but 50 actually rebelled against preme when he wanted 50 to submit oppose to lettin him co-exist with supremee, on the other hand jay he’s more of a laid back dude oppose to 50’s aggression so jay aint gon do nuthin about this oppose to 50 sized up supreme and he said himself in the XXL “its either they (government) gives him life, or they release him and i give him life” true story 50’s more realer

the thing is, jay-z has said he was a drug dealer BECAUSE HE WAS A DRUG DEALER LOL. calvein klein was a drug lord, had niggas under him doing his work. jay-z has never said he was a drug lord, or had niggas under him. he always said ya i sold drugs, blah blah blah. find one lyric where hov says he had niggas under him or that he was a drug bosss, cuz there aint none. from him talkin bout his past in his music, u could tell that he was a soldier, not a boss. young jeezy always talkin bout how he sold drugs, did he take ur life story 2 calvin klein? LOLOLOL. get the fuck outta here. that takeover/ether there really was no truth to both songs basically just name calling (except him banging carmen and how nas did kinda fall off after illmatic). so his comment on that was irrelevant.
its like this, klein was a big drug boss who had niggas under him. most of those niggas are either dead, in jail, or doing iight. klein can still feel like yaa im still bigger then those niggas, except 4 jay, who just knew how 2 rap. klein can never say he’s close to jay’s level and that bothers him, so its jus simple jealousy. its like when u were the taller older brother 4 most of ur childhood, then ur lil brother out grows u and is taller then u now. ur happy for him somewhat but still kinda salty that he’s past u in height. hence why klein bigs him up and tears his character’s down at the same time. u such an OG, dry snitching on the radio LOLOL.

being t-pain aka i luv ray-j’s dick, road manager isnt that big of an accomplishment homie. u said u could be in any boardroom meeting hov was in, in any building LOLOL. don’t play ya’self….those bodyguards in those buildings would “throw the riff raff out.” then u said u already did it when u went to the young jeezy “soul survivor” video shoot. well that isnt a building, and it’s on the street, regular niggas from dat hood where standing next to jay to so thats not anything to brag about LOLOL. i dont even like 50 cent but he was right, yall sum “OLD GOATS” — OG, who still think they owe u suttin jus cuz u were a drug lord, these niggas are making BIG, CLEAN, MONEY…..they dont owe u shit. klein accept ur role and go and rewind ray-j’s sex tape so t-pain can jerk off to it in a few.

how is he dry snitching by saying someone didn’t sell or is faking the lifestyle they sy thet lived.people need to learn the definition of the word,you can only be a snitch if you tell on someone the commited a crime or did something illegal.since when is it dry snitching by saying someone is a fake. people believe every single word that comes out of these rappers mouth,and that jeezy example is wack pimp c already shut down that mans credibility read a book or something homie and stop glorifying everything a rapper says as gospel. its called entertainment.and jay z was never a drug dealer too many people in his past say he wasn’t that are credible like jaz-0,this guy even bleek said it.and how come no one from marcy projects ever heard of him selling drugs.

Nah real talk I don’t think he sound sbitter at al….He’s just telling it how he feels it is…plus if you look at Jigga’s track record this isn’t the first dude he’s just bounced on….Dame, Jaz-O, e-money bags and the list goes on…..all these saying the same thing so it has to be some truth to it…alot of what Kleinw as saying in that interview was real talk

Loyalty over money. You gotta look after people who has looked after you regardless of how much money you got and how big you think you are.

I a big Jay fan but I see where Klein commin from. But he did contridict himself a little by makin it seem like Jay was not a dealer but in the beginning be said Jay was a “soldier”! Like someone said, Jay never claim to be a “Don”, just a Dealer, Clien was boss. Jay was a dealer and rapped about hustling. But alot of these artist strech the story a little. Pac did and 50 did also! Jay was a dealer, Klein was a boss! 50 was a dealer and Supreme was a boss!

why kay slay dont like Jayz???

@PAYSO

jay didnt play dame, dame played himself. how u gonna wait 4 hov to go on vacation, then try to make cam’ron the president of roc-a-fella LOLOLOL. plus at the time cam’ron was brand new to the company and u wanna make him president of dat company over bleek or beanie sigel?? GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE LOLOLOL. wut happened to dame is karma. dame and cam’ron are with ja rule and them, dont count anymore.

jay please write dude a check so he can fuck off

@OLA

I co-sign 100% After Oh Boy came out Cam was pres of the ROC 5 mins after. How did that happen? Damn.

OLA hit everything on nail,comment 35 he not dry snitchin cuz he called jay fake,he dry snitchin cuz he talkin bout how the both got locked up for this,and who took the fall for it on radio and shit

The guy clearly said Jay was a soldier. What the heck do you think a soldier do? he wasn’t a punk. He put in work when he had to. Like all bosses they start as soldiers and some turn to leaders. The difference is he don’t like how Jay a acting as boss now.

yo i co-sign with #32 this is a very similar situation with 50 and supreme but 50 Cent rebelled against supreme when he did want 50 to submit i have that article of what fif was talkin about, but jay on the other hand we are gonna see if he has the rebellion in him. I dont he’s gonna though cause jay he doesnt have the sae aggression as 50 Cent so he’s gonna fall back and brush these words off but if he does that its gonna make matters worst and put the general public in a position to question jay’s credibility and thats where he’s gonna get really tested but then again it wouldnt matter anyways he’s done everything in rap anyways and is the most success rapper in the game right now plus fuckin the hottest chick in the game so we will see if jay is real or not this is an interesting story. Its about time we got someone frm the past that has information to test Jay-Z’s credibility as a real nigga

#20, 22 I hear you…

@ #23 See it how you see it but someone wit 20/20 can see the chinks in dudes (jay Z) armour. Point is he might have wrote the 16’s but if it ain’t his life you owe royalties, especially for a real street cat. I don’t know either of em but from what my eyes and hears have taken in and I have taken in a lot more of what Jay has had to say sh!t don’t add up!
p.s. was my “hating” not based on documented stuff?

OLA you’re jus a Jay fan to death (can’t see thing’s unbiased) cause even most Jay fan’s know Nas killed him with ether and it was cause he straight laid it out.

I fcks wit #’s 36 and 37

And for all the Dame haters here’s a question for ya, before Dame brought in the beanie’s and the dipset who else was able to sell records on the ROC? Was it jus other people’s inability to sell/grind hard enough or was it jay always makin moves for himself thats why he was the only one to come up?

@ 44… thats all dudes sayin! Jay ain’t learn how to be a real boss who takes care of people, and not always find somethin for self.

@ 33 Ether’s the reason Nas is on Def Jam… Jay had to try to manage the damage and wit nas on a label he’s the pres @ he could have more control on what gets released…
Instead of always payin DJ’s not to play it…lol!

DAMN ….THATS REAL TALK…I’M A BIG JAY FAN BUT THIS MADE SON LOOSE SOME POINTS I MEAN DUDE HAS SOME VALID POINTS HOWEVER I UNDERSTAND WHERE JAYS COMING FROM CAUSE I FIND MY SELF IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS YOU CANT PULL EVERYBODY UP FROM YOUR PAST PEOPLE WHO LIVE A CERTAIN LIFESTYLE CANT BRING EVERYBODY FROM THE PAST INTO A CERTAIN LIGHT CATS STILL HAVE THAT GANSTER MANTALITY AND ARE SOMETIMES NOT CAPABLE OF OPERATING IN CERTAIN ATMOSPHERES ACORDINGLY BAD FOR BUSINESS.IE.BANGUM SMURF ETC…ON THE CONTRARY BLEEK/TY-TY,MAYBE JAZ-O SHOULD HAVE MORE CAKE AT THE SAME TIME YOU CAN BRING THE HORSE TO THE WATER BUT CANT FORCE THEM TO DRINK IF I PUT YOU ON ITS NOT TO BE A FATHER AND PROVIDE FOR ANOTHER GROWN ASS MAN IT SO ONE COULD LEARN HOW TO BE A BOSS ESTABLISH THIER OWN BUSINESS VENTURES AND CONTINUE THE PROCESS BUT CATS GET IT TWISTED IE..50 CENT…G-UNIT SITUATION….RAP IS JUST ENTERTAINMENT BECAUSE IF THEY WERE REALY DOING IT TO THAT EXTENT THEY WOULD BE DEAD OR IN JAIL DOING NUMBERS AINT NO DRUG LORDS IN THE RAP GAME CATS GOT MONEY BEFORE COMING IN THE GAME BECAUSE THEY DID SHOWS AND SOLD CDS OUT THE TRUNK…..

I have 2 English degrees, Bachelor’s and Master’s… If my damn 10th grade English teacher tried to come up to me and get a piece of my check, I’d laugh in his old ass face. Fuck this nicca!

JAY-Z IS A SELF-MADE MILLIONAIRE, DID CALVIN KLEIN WRITE JAYZ’S RECORDS HOOKS ANYTHIN??? HELL NAW THEN HE TALKN BOUT DAME DASH MADE JAYZ ALL HIS FUCKN MONEY OR HE WOULD ONLY BE A SIX-FIGGA JIGGA? WUT THE FUCK IS HE OUTTA HIS MIND…JAYZ IS A TRU HUSTLA HE DEF WAS N THEM STREETS FROM BK 2 MD 2 DC ON WUTEVER…SO WUT IF HE WASNT A FUCKN DRUG LORD DOIN 15YRS N THE PEN? HE DID HIS SHIT STR8 LEGIT SO KLEIN GOT 28MILL N JAY GOT HALF A BILLION DOLLARS WHO REALLY BALLIN??? ONLY THING CALVIN KLEIN LOOKN 4 IS PROMOTION 4 HIS DVD…ITS ALL GOOD HE DID HIS THANG N THE HOOD SELLIN DRUGS KILLIN BLACK PPL WHILE JAYZ SWITCHED HIS GAME UP FROM THE BLOCK 2 THE BOOTH SPITTIN RHYMES WITOUT HAVIN TO WORRY BOUT POPO WATCHIN HIS ASS 24/7. (UNLESS U COUNT HIPHOP POPO)

Dis nigga’s str8 up hatin on Jay

@Flahomie

Cosign! But I’m sure the Feds took care of that 28 mill for him.

lol @number 44

co-sign that is so true jay’s a soft dude 50’s more hard he went at preme hard

sorry number 44 i meant

@46… I’m not even a big JayZ fan, but the truth is that a shout out is all the dude should get. Look at all these authors who write books based on stories from other people, or things that they have seen other people go through… Look at every successful person who can tell you who inspired them to do whatever… Which one of those people is cutting a damn check for the person who gave them the story or inspired them?

Like I said, a shout out is all you get. If I’m tryin to go legit and you’re a convicted felon, it’s only fitting that you go to “Convict Music” cuz on every other job application, it asks if you’ve been convicted of a felony. Like i said before… Fuck this dude… those of us who arent from NYC are probably hearing his name for the first time. His ass is in denial which is why ole girl had to get him to clarify his “legacy.” Tha fuck is the legacy of a convicted felon? Parole?

The matter is character:
for all the folks hatin what dude’s sayin peep this.
Ja rule was HOT at once if not now right? Then dudes heard he wasn’t as street as his lyric’s and folks flaked on dude!

No one said so what he still wrote his own sh!t!?!!?!

And there was a crazy ill female M.C. back in the day wit crazy tough rhymes… folks were lovin here till they found out she wasn’t street and was college educated.

People choose to see things the way they want but the inconsistant arguements kill me.

Me personally I thought the roc at 1st was one of the hardest cause they was talkin bout black owned business. But they didn’t do right by the business as far as really providing jobs and sh!t cause it was all jay.
Then on top of that he started out talkin bout leavin the game for legit ventures… then every record after was still embracin and glorifying bein in the drug game as a hustler a lord or supplier. so the positive message was lost and then he goes and works for a white man… which was totally opposite of the point cause I thought the goal was to write checks not wait for them… thats were i’m comin from! Why do these guys leave power positions Owners(or supposed positions of power) to be employees?

ondafly… more than you think. It’s intelectual property still if i’m not mistaken. The problem is these guys have illegal passes so its hard to go to court for somethin like that plus most of us don’t have faith in the system.

I respect your position but don’t agree.

Thats the reason we need black businesses like they were suppose to create. Other people can have not education and a jail record and get work cause they people own sh!t and can provide them with a job. Also I feel/heard dude was comin home on some business sh!t for real no illegal business so if you got a knuckle head dude… thats one thing but from what i see hear out of Klien he a stand up dude willin to work for his. Now if I as a man help you out while I’m on top in the illegal game, we have no fall out, i get locked and when I come home if you’re good with real business you couldn’t get a dude a job in the mail room so I can get a chance to do somethin legal rather that be stuck havin to go back to the streets?

Kay Slay has got to be Jay-z’s number 1 hater of all time. He stay gettin people (that most people don’t care about) to come on his show and shit on Jay. I guess its his hobby. And who gives a fuck about who’s more thugged out or Gangsta. Last time I checked both 50 and Jay were hustlers. And Jay is out hustlin everybody. They don’t live on the streets anymore. Ya’ll kill me with this who’s more hood shit with niggas that don’t live in the hood anymore walking around with bodygaurds.

2cents

I feel you but when he came home that Irv/Supreme shit was poppin, Klein was hot, If the feds were stressin Murder Inc, wouldn’t you think that they would be testin “Rocafella” too? Jay who Klein called a “soldier” and who held you down when ya’ll were up for attempted murder or what have you. I would say that the guy was some what lying. And another thing, if Jay was pretending to be him (Klein) in his rhymes and he says he listens to Jay’s nusic, why didn’t he name another line where Jay is allegedly spittin about his life Other than the line from Allure? And if Jay wasn’t hustler, where did he get the money to invest and be a third partner in the ROC with Dame & Biggs? It for damn sure wasnt his B’Day money!

more money more promblems my nigga big predict this shit exactly.

KB…

Not sayin I know the answers… but what if these are the answers!

They may have tested rocafella but if there’s nothin illegal goin on, and you’re dealin with a dude who’s good as long as he’s earnin it’s nothin.

As for the jay pretendin… the line he quoted if you noticed was once MENTIONING Klien. It wasn’t a line where he was like you when he said he popped up in the 4.6 it was Bigg’s I mean Klien…lol!
by the way the title of that song is interestin if you put it in context.

Wasn’t half the thing with the roc break up the fact J didn’t have the power he wanted there? Thats cause that was bigg and dame’s doin they were the bosses and j was the mc. he jus played a good game of chess that was selfish in my eyes. Personally I feel if you do somethin grimey for the greater good of people you deal wit its one thing but to do it jus to sell out you’s a sell out. As 50 said a hoes sleeps with whoever pays him…

Also if he would draw so much attention to a label and Convict signed him the same time why isn’t convict records in any trouble Or why haven’t they been in the news under indictment? the arguments aren’t consistant.

@2cents

I totally feel what you’re saying and you do have some valid points, especially about giving dude a legit job. That all makes perfectly good sense, even the part about intellectual property… I feel what the people are saying about things on the “street level.” On the streets, loyalty is number one. If you’re just looking at that, yeah, JayZ hasn’t taken care of those he should have taken care of… Even though he was just a “soldier.”

But um… these days, JayZ is far far from the streets. And, of course, once you blow up everybody wants a piece of the “cake.” So… is he supposed to go back and write checks to everybody who helped him or inspired him along the way? So, is he supposed to write a check to this dude, who supplied him his drug lyrics, and one to the chicks who supplied him his pussy lyrics, and one to Nas for the beef and that chick Carmen for those lyrics… And is Nas supposed to write JayZ a check for inspiring him to write Ether, in which he effectively ethered Jay?

If JayZ was Jeezy (never noticed how close those names are, damn subliminal messages)… then, yeah… the inspiring drug dealer probably deserves a check. But JayZ and this guy? Nah… if he wrote this dude a check, he’d be writing checks from now on, to everybody… Anyway… I appreciate the intelligent convo bros. Will mos def visit this site more often.

can somebody say CB4 lol

I’m co-signing with 2cents. That’s exactly how I see it. Jay shitted on a lot of friends, and don’t give a fucc about it. Making Cam president out of nowhere wasn’t the best choice, but that doesn’t give you the right to turn your back from dudes. And what your reason for turning your back on Biggs? Real recognize real and I can’t see Jay right now.

Im tired of these bum ass niggas expecting a nigga to put food in your mouth…you’re a fucking man…put some food in you’re own mouth.

Im not saying Jay is perfect but to me it seems like Jay-z grew up and the people from his past are mad cause the highlight of there life is being a part of Jay-z’s past.
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Biggs is Dame’s right hand man. Why would Jay trust him? Besides that in life somtimes you got to turn your back on people that will stop you from growing up especially those who don’t want to grow up at all.

Sounds like Klein just using Jay’s name for some fame….Why come out with this now?

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You think Jay stop fuccing with Biggs because that’s Damn right hand? Biggs was a important person in Jay life just like Dame was. He was just a victim of being loyal and choosing no sides, and now he’s labeled out. Dame, e-money bags, Sauce Money, Jaz-o, Biggs, and now Klein? And your going to tell me he doesn’t have loyalty issues?

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Jay never betrayed Dame, Def Jam offered Jay a deal to do it but he turned them down, and then out of the Blue Dame makes Cam the pres of the ROC after Oh Boy came out. They favored Cam the minute he got there. To be honest Beans was really president material. Dame did it to himself. But Klein did make me think, but he started the interview sayin Jay was a soldier and so on, but as we got deeper in the interview he makes it seem like Jay was soft.

And of all the lines you gonna use to expose a nigga, you will use the line that he’s giving you props and praise in. Name another line where he is using your life, if his rhymes are about Klein! and If he did Jaz-O dirty, why hasn’t Jaz-O come forth with this info? And obviously Sauce Money and Jay squashed everything becuz wasnt Sauce Money at the I Declare War Concert.

Bottom line…Even if Jay does have “loyalty issues”, who does he have to deal with that with. Ya damn right…the people who he once considered friends. Not you and me. The problem with dudes story is if Jay is so soft now, and didnt sell no dope back then. How does dude even know jay? Jay had to be puttin in work if he was once cool with a dude that had 24 mill before he got locked up.

And yes Kay-Slay is a Jay hater. You can tell by his interviews. But if Calvin Kleins only beef with Jay was the fact that Jay didnt put him on when he came home frm prison, I would understand that. But this guy tryin to act like Jay wasnt in the steets and didnt sell drugs and is rhymin his life. Fuck outta here. 90% false?, I dont beleive it cuz somebody would of been pulled his card.

Just Appreciate what you got. You are blessed to be down with convict music. Say Jay did put u on and something worst wouldv happened. Everything happens for a reason.

…LASTLY….If Jay-Z was to die tommorow, youd have a whole bunch of Jigga haters talkin bout how he was the best (including Kay-Slay). Theyd be wearin Tee-shirts and playin him all day on the radio. Big, Pac, Big L, Pun…All these ledgends would still be gettin hated on to this day if they were here. But since Jays one of the only livin legends still here, you wanna bring him down.

A BLACK BOY MADE IT OUT OF THE PROJECTS AND BECAME A MILLIONAIRE BY WRITING AND IS NOW GIVING BACK TO HIS PEOPLE AND THE LESS FORTUNATE….STOP TRYING TO BRING YOUR OWN DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WHAT ABOUT EXPOSING GEORGE BUSH, OR BILL GATES, OR JIMMY LOIVINE…..NO, BECAUSE THEY DONT LOOK LIKE YOU. FUCKIN COWARDS….

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I co-sign and again If Jay was rhymin about his life and he listens to Jay’s music, why did he only mention the line where Jay gave him a shout out? Name the other ones. He cant becuz, Jay was always rhymin about puttin in work and not about havin soldiers to put work in. Like I said Jay was a “Dealer” not a “Don”!

What many are forgetting is that Both “DAME & BIGGS”, are rich. Due to rocafella records. So How does HOVA have loyalty issues. In every business there is separation. One can’t continue with the same folks. One must move on and venture different paths. Now if JAY would have stayed loyal “like people say” which is totally ridiculous then everything he has accomplished since they parted ways would have been seen as if Jay didn’t due it himself. AND JIGGA HAS SHOWN THE WORLD THAT HE CAN DUE IT HIMSELF AND HAS PROVEN TO BE A BETTER BUSINESS MAN THAN DAME.

WHAT HAS DAME BEEN INVOLVED WITH SINCE THE SEPARATION?

WHAT YALL GONNA BLAME JAY FOR BLACKBALLIN HIM?

PLZ…. I businesses man defines himself…. Look AT FIFTY. HE WAS BLACKBALLED IN THE BEGINNING BY MURDER INC. But he overcame that and look at how much money the guy has now…. Thats another example of a business man..

Who cares what JAZZO GOT TO SAY??? I don’t…. you just mad cuz you ain’t got no money…

As for tah tah mom moving out off the projects a couple years ago. Thats ta tah’s fault that’s not Jiggas mom. Hov shouldn’t be your familys savior it should be you. Jigga man all that happen for him….. Not JAZZO, CALVIN KLEIN, TAH TAH, DAME AND WHO EVER CLAIMS HE OWES THEM..
It’s like JAY-Z HIT THE LOTTO AND EVERY ONE AND THEIR MOMMA COME FOR A HAND OUT. BUNCH OF BUM ASS DUDES AND CHICKS…

I BET YOU, WHEN KLEIN WAS ON TOP AND JAY a soldier he didn’t give MS. CARTER ANYTHING.

AS FOR KAY SLAY THE DUDE IS A PHONY. HE’S BECOMING MS. JONES. Dude is funny. You can’t trust dudes like that.

HOW YOU REALLY GET TO KNOW WHO IS YOUR REAL FRIENDS WELL ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS FALL BACK. EVENTUALLY IF THEY TRUE THEY STICK BY YOU, BUT IF THEY INTERESTED IN SOMETHING WHICH IS ALWAYS WHAT YOU HAVE THEY EVENTUALLY START TALKING ABOUT YOU… You just can’t give anyone money like that without first finding out what is their motive and intentions…

And the reason konvict records are not being investigated by the po po is because I don’t see Akon with bill clinton, bill gates, kings and queens and people of that magnitude.
and who said that HIP HOP POLICE ARE NOT INVESTIGATING THEM just because they are not being handed indictments doesn’t mean they ain’t being watched….

It’s BUSINESS NEVER PERSONAL……..

I agree wit the Juelz Vs. bleek but not that juelz is hotter..bleek got platnum and gold albums juelz never went plat..bleek still got 90’s bread..in my book id rather have 90’s hip hop money then todays hip hop money

nd hov is hov like em or hate em

People need to grow up and just face the facts.. When all you do is worry about the next man you forget about yourself and eventually you lose…

Hov doesn’t care about the next man thats why “he won’t lose”.. Just like the slogin in his new rocawear add campaign “I will not lose”.

Stay focused man. Now if he would be listening to what people saying he just like everybody else.

Honestly if Calvin Klien was any type of real OG he wouldnt have when on radio to run his mouth. If u a real nigga like you say you are then why dont you handle it without the public needing to know about it, go up to Jay and get your unpaid royalties if u bout it. What is the whole point of you going public about it? Im not tryna take away what Jay ALLEGEDLY did to Calvin, but at the same time you dont need to go on radio to talk shit and not say it to his face. that just how I feel, get mad if you want to.

The Kay Slay show is really the “haters show”
who is this chick?
This story is obviously really personal. We just hearing one side of the story.
I don’t need to hear Klein to know Jay’s not perfect as a person.
as a matter of fact he might be bastard mo’fucka. who knows.
But the idea of going live oin air to bring that out doesn’t sound like an OG move to me. What he says about “Dame was doing all the deals” or “Santana got more than Bleek” how he knos all this? He obvioulsy not in their close cypha anymore.
The dude just come on air and say whatever he wants?…
C’mon i’m not buying that. He been riding with dude, catcthing cases with dude. and he now saying the Jay has no personality? doesn’t add up! It’s so obvious he still feel Jay. I can understand he rather row with him again than with the Konvict tem but u time will tell what’s really behind that.

And that MTV crib comment wa really dumb. Jay, Diddy and real Bosses don’t let camera in their cribs. WHAT’S THE POINT?. the dude wishes he know what his former homie’s crib’s like.

On another note i hope Jay’z close entourage all have milli’s in their bank! If that is not so… that would be very ugly

Jay’s one of the last Don….

Lets not forget that he said Jay was a friend not a homeboy or one of his niggas. The last time I checked a friend don’t owe you anything. So which was it. He was flip flopping alot during the interview. Was Jay just a flunky or was he one of your boys. And how can yall say he’s disloyal, I know some of yall where in situations where you couldn’t help everybody, so does that mean yall disloyal too. And to say Julez got more cake than Bleek is crazy. Bleek own his own car shop where he customize cars and he has started his own label. And to talk about TyTy’s mom is crazy to, Jay don’t control how he spends his money. TyTy could buy expensive chains and live in the most posh apartments, and take trips on yachts, but HE can’t buy his mother a house. And better yet, how do you know if she wan’t to move or not. Some old people like their city, and they got a saying “If God ain’t let nothing happen to me yet than why should I move” He’s problibly telling some truth in this interview, but he seems a little suspect. He been out for 3 years why didn’t he been say somthing.

Fuck these “Willie Lynch” thinking niggas hov!
Stay Focus…

TO SUM IT ALL UP IF U TELL A NIGGA U GOT HIM AND U RICH HELP THE MAN COME UP ESPECIALLY IF U WORTH 2OO AND SUMTHIN MILL SUPPOSEDLY……… GIVE THE NIGGA A FAKE JOB IF YALL RAN THE STREETS AND HUSTLED TOGETHER…….. YALL INTERNET WANKSTAS WHO DISAGREE OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW NOTHIN BOUT THE G-CODE….. IF THAT MAN NEVER CROSSED U TOSS THE MAN A BONE YOU HAVE SEVERAL BUSINESS VENTURES YOU CAN LOSE THAT MAN IN…… JUST SO NIGGAS LIKE THIS CANT COME BACK AND SALT YOUR NAME AND POSSIBLY HURT YOU OR YOUR FAMILY MEMEBERS IF JAY Z ON SOME SHIT LIKE SELLIN THE MAN A BUNCH OF WOLF TICKETS AND SHIT HE DESERVE TO GET WHATEVER HEAT THIS MAN BRING

i like what dude said right here cause alot of people be talkin about who did what. some people dont understand

“Most of those guys have seen so many things that you can’t live out most of these things rappers talk about,” he said. “They living it out through the life they saw in their neighborhood. That’s just like having your way of your freedom of speech. I don’t knock them. If they don’t tell our story the way the story supposed to be told, then no one is going to know where we are really coming from.”

Growing up we all looked up to someone. Seems to me dude is mad because times have changed, he is now riding shotgun. What kills me is niggas love negative shit. Why not ride with this Blackman who looks like you? Go at them crackers who making money off all of you lames.

If I could talk to Jay, I would tell him keep doing you. The truth will come out in the end, they can’t hide who they are but for so long. I will say I wish Jay and Dame and the old Roc would all get back together, I get tired of seeing Black people always falling out once they make it or one gets caught. Stick together like our forefather use to. Stop this “Willie Lynch” train of thought…

Its funny to me that everyone is saying that Jay turned his back on all of these people from his past. As an adult sometimes you have to make decisions that may not always be politically correct or follow the rules of the streets but what is in your best interest. So some people are saying that Jay should stay around people that will eventually get him locked up or 6 feet under? That makes no sense to me. This guy is on the radio saying Jay wasnt this or that but in an article before you big up’d him? Im not following. Ohhhh but if Jay would have written that check, we would have heard nothing from this man. Is that how the streets work? 2+2=4 all day long and this guys stories and timing don’t add up…

to get straight to the point i kow for fact that jay-z was doing his thing back in the day jay use to hang out on the easternshore of maryland putting it down in the streets.it’s sounds like homeboy is a little bitter