RealTalk With Pete Rock, Says There Is Really No Good Rap Music Being Made
06.25.07 at 11:54 am
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Pete Rock – True Talk!
06.25.07 at 12:11 pm
Woo Star
Damn he was quick to say “nah” when responding to working with C.L. Smooth again. Break up’s, it all started first with the Fat Boys.
06.25.07 at 12:32 pm
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PETE ROCC IZ RIGHT NIGGAZ IZ EXTRA CORNY RIGHT NOW!! WORD-LIFE …..PETE ROCC AINT GON BRING IT BAK THO HAHAHAHAH SORRY DUKE
06.25.07 at 12:36 pm
Young C'dona
I respect Pete Rock real talk but….
Why do it seem like everyone who says hip-hop is dead or hip-hop is ruined are the ones that are old vets. i think da reason vets think hip-hop is dead is because its a new sound they aint use to. they wanna pronounce it dead just because the music changed over the years and people have changed in there interest in what they like. the radio is playing what da majority of people want. hip hop aint dyin. if anything its growin more mainstream with people all over the world everyday. there was a time wen only African Americans enjoyed hip-hop now itz become more cultrul
06.25.07 at 12:36 pm
la
he told like it is
06.25.07 at 12:52 pm
loves ass
hhahha its funny how these old cats always hates on hiphop just cus they old hahaha
06.25.07 at 3:12 pm
Epic
With age comes wisdom and you young cats will never understand that. So keep leanin, snappin and rockin to this garbage ass music passing off as hip hop. And watch as hip hop gets taken from us the same way rock was. But why should you care as long as it’s hot in the club, that’s all that matters.
06.25.07 at 3:18 pm
fuck da south
Fuck The South. They destroyed hip hop.
06.25.07 at 3:30 pm
wallySMALLZ
stop hatin the south..GARBARGE MUSIC is killin our culture…dont single it out to just one region
But where is the majority of garbage music coming from? That’s right the south
06.25.07 at 4:44 pm
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THA SOUTH IS MAKIN CORNY HIP-HOP MUSIC FOR KIDZ!…BUBBLE GUM RAPS! N DANCES! WEARIN BRIGHT COLORS DANCIN WIT 30YEAR OLD MEN !…THE RADIO IZ WASHED UP! THE DJ’Z TAKE MONEY TO PLAY THESE SONGZ OVER-N-OVER BRAIN WASHING KIDS 2 TRAP-OR-DIE? BUY JORDANS ,PUT 26′Z ON PIECE OF SHIT CARZ,GOT WHITE KIDS IN THE “TRAP” WIT “GRILLS” TLKN BOUT WUT-IT-DO-NIGGA?GOT UGLY WHITE GIRLS WIT WEAVES(WHO THINK THEY BLAK) FUKN THE WHOLE SQUAD? YALL MAKIN HIP-HOP LOOK BAD IM IN DA SOUTH N ALL THESE FACTZ ARE TRUE FUK WUT U HEARD REAL HIPHOP WITH BE ALIVE FOREVER YALL JUZ GIVN THE GAME A BLAKK EYE!!!!!!!!!
06.25.07 at 4:56 pm
DJ Shakim
I think what Pete was stating is that LYRICALLY, hip hop is dying. The majority of the south have simplified the lyrics and the beats. No one has anything to say other than “ballin” or “strippers” or “Guns”. Radio sucks because its all about who will pay the most to get their record played. Why do you think there are so many “Dopeboy” artists?? Hip hop is dying because there is no emphasize on the DJ or the B-Boy. Radio must broaden it’s horizons and play more of a variety of music. Even R&B is dumbed down!!
06.25.07 at 5:24 pm
kenya
Young C’dona… im 21 years old and I know some 16-25 year old people who are saying the same thing. It seems the older cats complain more because they were around when it first started up. I know I never thought Hip Hop would fall apart like this.
06.25.07 at 6:17 pm
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good job.
of course, old cats always don’t like young one…maybe, they’ don’t think about commercial success in the golden era. but how do they think if they are young and creative in nowadays?
anyway, still we have some good music we can listen to, if we want to find out…
06.25.07 at 8:46 pm
illest
dat nigga pete man damn comedy
06.25.07 at 9:07 pm
Storm90057
Quick history lesson… SOME OF YOU GUYS QUICK TO DOWN SNAP MUSIC.. OR SOUTH MUSIC OR CRUNK MUSIC.. HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD… LETS REWIND 10 YEARS AGO WHEN SAMPLES WAS ALL OVER THE RADIO… NOT JUST A SMALL SAMPLE THEY WERE JACKING THE ENTIRE BEAT AND CALLED THEMSELVES PRODUCERS.. I was the biggest fan of Notorious BIG however juicy and big poppa were stolen beats.. nothing special about the production but BIG made that shit tight… which made him one of the greatest… Today the beat and production and the video makes an artist… its differnet times.. people were complaing 10 years ago about samples… now they complaining about snap and kiddie hip hop… if you 28 and older you are part of the few people that buy hip hop… they make this music for the people that buy the shit… peter rock needs to understand that the younger crowd want that fun snappy dancing hip hop that im not into but i dont turn my nose up at it either.. Its music and its a business… never forget that.. when you hear that wack shit on the radio… remember its targeted to a certain audience..
06.25.07 at 10:37 pm
DJ Priority
Where is the music on the radio thats targeted to the 28 and older crowd???
06.26.07 at 4:42 am
Sun Shyne
^^^^^Where is the music on the radio thats targeted to the 28 and older crowd???
…Say word.
06.26.07 at 6:08 am
Storm90057
I feel ya… the oldies stations are stuck in a time warp, but think about this.. What advertisers do you think would spend their money with old school hip hopers? Don’t get me wrong I would love the idea of an oldie hip hop station but you wont see tom Joyner and other folks go that way for another 15 years…. Sad thing is a lot of peeps don’t know who Pete rock is.. im 34 and when I have talks with the younger generation they have no clue about their hip hop history… When I mention fat boys, Brand Nubian, Beastie Boys, Big Daddy Kane, Eric B and Rakim they look clueless…
06.26.07 at 6:33 am
Frank Jumbo
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Hold up Pete…now I do agree that commercial radio is bad, the major video channels are horrible and there’s a lot of coonery goin on across the board (especially from Program Directors), but to make sweeping statements like: there is no good hip-hop being made and no good r&b artists is just plain wrong.
There are at least 10 excellent “real hip hop” albums released each year whether they show up on our radar or not is up to us. You can’t listen to Joell Ortiz, Black Milk, Kweli/Madlib, Little Brother or anything by Freddie Foxxx and tell me that it ain’t no good hip hop out.
People get carried away speaking sometimes.
And for the record Pete, you are mad, so am I and a lot of people should be the way we’ve let our culture become so corrupted. It’s Ok to be mad out here cause that’s the only way to bring about some change.
With that said Pete you still my guy so go on and drop something new so you can save us all. lol.
I guess he means “for the most part”. But Its definitly not just a south thing.
1.)Im tired of New York rappers actin harder than they really are.
2.) Im tired of radio playin shit 2,364,874 times to get you to like it.
3.) And yes…there need to be a hip-hop station for the one who like music with substance.
4.) People need to realize that Hip-Hop is being takin right out of the hands of tha people who created it, and being passed off as the REAL THING.
5.) And Yes…Alot of those people are comin from tha south, and in return its destroyin our youth and culture.
….Live HIP-HOP LIVE!!!!
06.26.07 at 10:32 pm
Shane
Its more the companies killing hip hop more than the south in a way. The major record labels are obviously paying off the radio stations to play the same fucking rotaions ALL DAY LONG! In the process brain washing the teenagers to tell them whats hot instead of playing a WIDE VARAITY and letting US the listener decide
07.02.07 at 5:20 am
xuzewyaaap
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07.02.07 at 5:09 pm
aries*
First of all, I have been a diehard Hip Hop fan since the very early 80′s
Secondly, Pete is my favorite producer! I will always, always buy his shit…….
Thirdly, he needs to acknowledge that for WHATEVER reasons, the lack of solid rap can also be attributed to the fact that all of the hottest acts from the late 90′s (ie Pete and CL, Tribe, etc..) have all broken up, could that also be the reason there is so much “garbage” in Hip Hop these days????????
02.04.08 at 1:12 pm
aceluv00
It’s not the south that is bringing down hip-hop. It’s lack of balance. Back during 84-95 or so you could hear good music from all over. Party records,Gritty underground, political joints all got love and the art form/culture grew. Now only one type of songs get played and hip-hop is worse off for it.
02.04.08 at 1:18 pm
aceluv00
We also need to start putting Dj’s and radio stations that take Payola on front street. There is a lot of good joints that never see the light of day because of this.
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Pete Rock – True Talk!
Damn he was quick to say “nah” when responding to working with C.L. Smooth again. Break up’s, it all started first with the Fat Boys.
PETE ROCC IZ RIGHT NIGGAZ IZ EXTRA CORNY RIGHT NOW!! WORD-LIFE …..PETE ROCC AINT GON BRING IT BAK THO HAHAHAHAH SORRY DUKE
I respect Pete Rock real talk but….
Why do it seem like everyone who says hip-hop is dead or hip-hop is ruined are the ones that are old vets. i think da reason vets think hip-hop is dead is because its a new sound they aint use to. they wanna pronounce it dead just because the music changed over the years and people have changed in there interest in what they like. the radio is playing what da majority of people want. hip hop aint dyin. if anything its growin more mainstream with people all over the world everyday. there was a time wen only African Americans enjoyed hip-hop now itz become more cultrul
he told like it is
hhahha its funny how these old cats always hates on hiphop just cus they old hahaha
With age comes wisdom and you young cats will never understand that. So keep leanin, snappin and rockin to this garbage ass music passing off as hip hop. And watch as hip hop gets taken from us the same way rock was. But why should you care as long as it’s hot in the club, that’s all that matters.
Fuck The South. They destroyed hip hop.
stop hatin the south..GARBARGE MUSIC is killin our culture…dont single it out to just one region
cuz if it really was the south then what about….
SCARFACE OUTKAST UGK LUDA KILLER MIKE…..nuff said.
trash is trash no matter where its from
But where is the majority of garbage music coming from? That’s right the south
THA SOUTH IS MAKIN CORNY HIP-HOP MUSIC FOR KIDZ!…BUBBLE GUM RAPS! N DANCES! WEARIN BRIGHT COLORS DANCIN WIT 30YEAR OLD MEN !…THE RADIO IZ WASHED UP! THE DJ’Z TAKE MONEY TO PLAY THESE SONGZ OVER-N-OVER BRAIN WASHING KIDS 2 TRAP-OR-DIE? BUY JORDANS ,PUT 26′Z ON PIECE OF SHIT CARZ,GOT WHITE KIDS IN THE “TRAP” WIT “GRILLS” TLKN BOUT WUT-IT-DO-NIGGA?GOT UGLY WHITE GIRLS WIT WEAVES(WHO THINK THEY BLAK) FUKN THE WHOLE SQUAD? YALL MAKIN HIP-HOP LOOK BAD IM IN DA SOUTH N ALL THESE FACTZ ARE TRUE FUK WUT U HEARD REAL HIPHOP WITH BE ALIVE FOREVER YALL JUZ GIVN THE GAME A BLAKK EYE!!!!!!!!!
I think what Pete was stating is that LYRICALLY, hip hop is dying. The majority of the south have simplified the lyrics and the beats. No one has anything to say other than “ballin” or “strippers” or “Guns”. Radio sucks because its all about who will pay the most to get their record played. Why do you think there are so many “Dopeboy” artists?? Hip hop is dying because there is no emphasize on the DJ or the B-Boy. Radio must broaden it’s horizons and play more of a variety of music. Even R&B is dumbed down!!
Young C’dona… im 21 years old and I know some 16-25 year old people who are saying the same thing. It seems the older cats complain more because they were around when it first started up. I know I never thought Hip Hop would fall apart like this.
good job.
of course, old cats always don’t like young one…maybe, they’ don’t think about commercial success in the golden era. but how do they think if they are young and creative in nowadays?
anyway, still we have some good music we can listen to, if we want to find out…
dat nigga pete man damn comedy
Quick history lesson… SOME OF YOU GUYS QUICK TO DOWN SNAP MUSIC.. OR SOUTH MUSIC OR CRUNK MUSIC.. HIP HOP IS NOT DEAD… LETS REWIND 10 YEARS AGO WHEN SAMPLES WAS ALL OVER THE RADIO… NOT JUST A SMALL SAMPLE THEY WERE JACKING THE ENTIRE BEAT AND CALLED THEMSELVES PRODUCERS.. I was the biggest fan of Notorious BIG however juicy and big poppa were stolen beats.. nothing special about the production but BIG made that shit tight… which made him one of the greatest… Today the beat and production and the video makes an artist… its differnet times.. people were complaing 10 years ago about samples… now they complaining about snap and kiddie hip hop… if you 28 and older you are part of the few people that buy hip hop… they make this music for the people that buy the shit… peter rock needs to understand that the younger crowd want that fun snappy dancing hip hop that im not into but i dont turn my nose up at it either.. Its music and its a business… never forget that.. when you hear that wack shit on the radio… remember its targeted to a certain audience..
Where is the music on the radio thats targeted to the 28 and older crowd???
^^^^^Where is the music on the radio thats targeted to the 28 and older crowd???
…Say word.
I feel ya… the oldies stations are stuck in a time warp, but think about this.. What advertisers do you think would spend their money with old school hip hopers? Don’t get me wrong I would love the idea of an oldie hip hop station but you wont see tom Joyner and other folks go that way for another 15 years…. Sad thing is a lot of peeps don’t know who Pete rock is.. im 34 and when I have talks with the younger generation they have no clue about their hip hop history… When I mention fat boys, Brand Nubian, Beastie Boys, Big Daddy Kane, Eric B and Rakim they look clueless…
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Hold up Pete…now I do agree that commercial radio is bad, the major video channels are horrible and there’s a lot of coonery goin on across the board (especially from Program Directors), but to make sweeping statements like: there is no good hip-hop being made and no good r&b artists is just plain wrong.
There are at least 10 excellent “real hip hop” albums released each year whether they show up on our radar or not is up to us. You can’t listen to Joell Ortiz, Black Milk, Kweli/Madlib, Little Brother or anything by Freddie Foxxx and tell me that it ain’t no good hip hop out.
People get carried away speaking sometimes.
And for the record Pete, you are mad, so am I and a lot of people should be the way we’ve let our culture become so corrupted. It’s Ok to be mad out here cause that’s the only way to bring about some change.
With that said Pete you still my guy so go on and drop something new so you can save us all. lol.
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I guess he means “for the most part”. But Its definitly not just a south thing.
1.)Im tired of New York rappers actin harder than they really are.
2.) Im tired of radio playin shit 2,364,874 times to get you to like it.
3.) And yes…there need to be a hip-hop station for the one who like music with substance.
4.) People need to realize that Hip-Hop is being takin right out of the hands of tha people who created it, and being passed off as the REAL THING.
5.) And Yes…Alot of those people are comin from tha south, and in return its destroyin our youth and culture.
….Live HIP-HOP LIVE!!!!
Its more the companies killing hip hop more than the south in a way. The major record labels are obviously paying off the radio stations to play the same fucking rotaions ALL DAY LONG! In the process brain washing the teenagers to tell them whats hot instead of playing a WIDE VARAITY and letting US the listener decide
Hello! Good Site! Thanks you! gwegkjeqtffngt
First of all, I have been a diehard Hip Hop fan since the very early 80′s
Secondly, Pete is my favorite producer! I will always, always buy his shit…….
Thirdly, he needs to acknowledge that for WHATEVER reasons, the lack of solid rap can also be attributed to the fact that all of the hottest acts from the late 90′s (ie Pete and CL, Tribe, etc..) have all broken up, could that also be the reason there is so much “garbage” in Hip Hop these days????????
It’s not the south that is bringing down hip-hop. It’s lack of balance. Back during 84-95 or so you could hear good music from all over. Party records,Gritty underground, political joints all got love and the art form/culture grew. Now only one type of songs get played and hip-hop is worse off for it.
We also need to start putting Dj’s and radio stations that take Payola on front street. There is a lot of good joints that never see the light of day because of this.