i think this is the same clown that accused jay of worshiping the devil with a bunch of propaganda and bullshit so i already cant take him seriously. lol at him saying “jesus walks is not actually about jesus” then saying it was 2 seconds later, just not the way he wanted. he looks at shit completely out of context and trys to make it say what he wants. showing the john legend video was completely pointless…what did that prove? anyone know this guys name? instead of trying to soil the names of successful black men who are making positive contributions to the world he should follow their example and use his voice to change the world for the better instead of blatantly lying for no real reason.
Thats some bullshit. At least Kanye had tha balls to rep what he stood for. A lot of church boyz get out of church and act like thugz in front of their friends. Kanye actually made it cool to stand up for Jesus. And as far as the video,the bling bling before going into church and tha fake laying of hands on people really happens in the church. I think this dude iz just tryin to get a big name for hisself thru the internet. Just like rappers get put-on thru youtube and myspace..Thats wat he’s doing. You thought 50 had a publicity stunt….haha
WHEN IT ALL BOILS DOWN HE TRYIN TO MAKE MONEY LIKE THE DUDE ON TOP OF ME SAID(NO HOMO), CAUSE CONTREVERSY SALES JUST LIKE SEX. HE TAKES STUFF OUT OF CONTEXT AND DEMONIZE HIPHOP AND R&B FOR THE FAULTS OF THE YOUTH AND THEIR KIDS. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT STARTS AT HOME CRAIGE G. THATS HIS NAME
i agree #4…this guy has other videos where he’s talking about bone thugs…it seems like his main objective is talking about hip hop instead of preaching…#3 you’re right kids can’t relate to a pastor reading from a bible they relate to rap music and kanye touched a lot of people with that song
Everything this man is saying is blasphemy.
First and foremost why should Kanye be obligated to perform for free? More people will attend church and overings will be larger so the Pastor benifits and pulls a larger congregation. Ask homie what kind of car he drives. Some Pastors be cakin’ more then your average dope boy. I bet you if your chruch wanted him to come preach he would charge you out the ass as well. This man missed the whole point of the song and video. He reminds me of dude who comes on tv late at night trying to sell annoited hankchiefs. Everyone is a critic, didn’t God say let he who has no sin cast the first stone and thou shall not judge.
Blah..i remember goin to chuch once and they showed us this same thing..basically bashing hip hop..sorry but some of it was B/S to me..i think he’s the one who said Aaliyah died because she did a vampire movie? thats the most dumb=iest shiit i’v heard in my life..lmfao she died cause he was her time..i just dont be understanding people sometimes..but whatever im still listening to wtf i want 2..
lol at 10 this muthafuka prolly heated they dont show bet uncut nomore lol n yea he did try n gey jay talkin bout play the lucifer record backwards n it say murder murder jesus 666 lol i aint hear it nother pimp-preacher just a new way to pimp the internet
man dude was a mutha fuckin joke..He aint have a problem wit kanyae… His problem was that kanyae mad wit one song what dude dosent even make in a fuckin year!!!!!!!!!! Das wut all the anger wus about…
im not even a christian and i can tell that this man seems to have a severe misunderstanding of who or what jesus preached. then he tried to imply that having a close personal relationship with jesus is blasphemy? i thought that was the point of christianity. the point of the song is that you can be forgiven for all the sins in the world but this guy thinks that kanye is saying that jesus is fine with it if you sin. then to condemn a rapper for rapping about g-d and spirituality is moronic. what more could he want? i guarantee you this guy has worse problems to work on in his community than kanye west’s real or fake spiritual beliefs.
People are always sayin shit mad about some artist or kind of music and always got something to moan about, it will always be this way where everyone has an opinion, but with what that guy sayin if u already really into the music and the artist no matter what they say its not gona change your views or opinions your still gona like the tunes anyway, people talkin about in hip hop shouldnt be allowed to say certain things, its “derogatory” some bollocks, yet theres a fuckin pastor preachin away and shit about the devil and kanye west his tune aint about jesus, yet do the fans turn on you and say “hey u cant say that shit, ur a pastor we like the music, leave the music we love alone” music is made for people, for people to enjoy,, we love the music oh and i guess he was updatin his ipod on his lil apple mac takin off all his kanye west and jhon legend tunes, it obviously jus came wit the church the lil apple mac he’s got.
tHIs cAt is A hAM…
eRrTHING kANyE dID In THa VIdeO…
fAkE cATcHIN tHA hOLy ghOsT…
gO TO cHUrCh FOR lUSt…
aNd aLOt of thE pEOpLE jUsT gO tO jUST bE sEEn
tHEy BE dOIN IN rEAl CHURcHEs…
aLL ACroSs AMeRIcA…
tHIs cAT is JuS uSIN hiPhOP aS aN eXcUSE fOR tHe DEViL..
hE’S A lAME…
Kanye West’s song was about the fact that Jesus walked with him even though he was moving cocaine and involved with other ilegal activities. It didn’t declare he was a christian as many other religions belive in the deity of or see Jesus as a profit. Kanye was proving a point that to pharaphrase Kanye “they say you can rap anything except for Jesus” the strength of the song which was written in partnershi? with Rhymefest was that Kanye wrote a song that spoke about Jesus and was successful. It was never a Christian song or ever tried to highlight Christian Living. This is where the guy missed the point it was a song for non belivers not for belivers and if Christians want the song they probably haven’t listened to the words, look at what Jesus said when faced with a similar dilemma . Mk 9:38 - Mk 9:40 (NKJV)
Now John answered Him, saying, ?Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.? But Jesus said, ?Do not forbid him, for no one who works ings a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is on our side.
a girl on a next message board said this guy is the female version of ms jones from hot 97. her father knew him. he was a wanna be rapper and he did not made it, so he turn against rappers. Try get TJ jakes to come to your church to preach and se how much he’s gonna charge you.
I dont know….This man gets seafood flown in from the UK for $4000, then goes and charges a church/house of God $30,0000 to perform for 5-10 minutes? That is some f*cked up shit. Kanye is already paid & should’ve done the performance for free out of kindness & generosity. It’s not like he needed the money.
how do you know he got 30k?? just cos this guy said it? also the thing about kanye getting seafood from the Uk flown over (i heard it was an indian food order) but regardless that was a rumour i.e. not true.
Wat d pastor is saying make sense. All things that are meant to be carried out in church are not carried out properly anymore nowadays. When u go deeper into spirituality, which everyone is meant to, you guyz will see how much this world is sining.
For example, yall know all those lyrics them rappers spit about having orgies are damn wrong. The pastor is making a damn point and people should open there minds to what he is saying.
Point blank, any and everything you take in will influence you one way or the other. I feel the pastor on trying to make a point, but I also feel he’s very gimmicky. Why talk about “Jesus Walks” then turn around and show a completely different video?
I mean, the song and the Jonh Leged vid are somewhat related, simply because both are dealing with spiritual temptation (which is DEFINITELY in ANY and EVERYBODY’s life, Christian or not). Even in “JW” Kanye says “God show me the way because the devil’s trying to break me down,” for that pastor to deny that feeling/moment as a Christian…that’s blasphemy to me. It comes across like he has that “Holier Than Thou” syndrome. HE KNOWS he’s been tempted…EVEN JESUS was tempted, so why is he even playing. Ya dig?
the food delivery from the UK was simply a rumor and Ye denied that he did such a thing- I think on his myspace. The 30k for a church perfomance is another rumor that sounds suspect in various ways. We are gonna have to wait for a statement of a more reliable source.
But let’s assume he really got 30k for it.. what could have been his motive? I only have one explanation for it.. the pastor or whosoever wanted more ppl coming to this church, so he booked Kanye to perform. (if you also look at church being a business someone needs to run it somehow- some just have a building fond for example) I assume Kanye wasn’t called up and being asked for a free perfomance / charity event at this church. Ye was probably booked. I can not blame Kanye for that. Imagine 500 churches call his agent asking for a free performance.. he couldn’t do it.
oh yeah and the guy in the video - that’s pathetic! it’s like judging a book by it’s cover. too many ppl run around nowadays not getting really ivolved with the things they feel the urge to talk about. dig deeper, please!
THE PREACHERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE SCARED…CAUSE THINK ABOUT IT…RAP IS REALLY THE NEW NEW TESTAMENT…RAPPERS ARE THE NEW PREACHERS…THAT’S WHY IT WAS SUCH AN EASY TRANSITION FOR REV. RUN, MASE…AND SOON TO BE, DMX,PASTOR TROY, AND YEP YOU GUESSED IT KANYE WEST. ALL OF THE PREACHERS HAVE QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER, THAT’S WHY THEY HATE GAMBLING, NOT CAUSE ITS’ EVIL, IT’S BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE CHURCHES POCKET ON SUNDAY. THEY DON’T PREACH AGAINST PREMARITAL SEX, HOMOSEXUALITY, OR RACE RELATIONS. THEY LOWER THEIR STANDARDS IN ORDER TO PACK THE BENCHES.(GET THAT GWAP). HELL THE RAPPERS ALREADY HAVE STAR POWER. PLUS MOST PREACHERS GOT DIRT ON THEM ANYWAY. THE CHURCHES HAVE BEEN PENETRATED BY THE DEVIL FOR SOME TIME NOW.I TRIED GOING TO CHURCH BUT COULDN’T CONCENTRATE BECAUSE ALL THE WOMEN WERE DRESSED LIKE THEY GOING TO THE CLUB,(NOT THAT I MIND, BUT I DIDN’T COME TO CHURCH TO BE TEMPTED). BUT I DIGRESS.
pREACHERES BE AFRAID OF WASHED UP RAPPERS…THEY COMING TO A PULPIT NEAR YOU,, WITH STAR POWER…LMAO.
Yeah this guy is a joke he does this to all rappers, he just wants some of that rap money! He just said “all the kids were emailing me telling me to come to the Church but they don’t understand it cost to get me there but…” He’s about money also that’s why he makes these dumb dvd’s about rappers because it catches the attention of the youth. SMH@THIS GUY, get this guy name I’m going to make a dvd about him.
LOLOL this is the same nigga who said Jay-Z is teaching ppl about the devil b/c they played his record backyards. the song was called “lucifer” off the black album…BUT of course this nigga is gonna purposely take the song outta text to try 2 prove sum point. now hes doin this shit LOL.
first of all why should kanye perform a song 4 free?? if he does it free for one church he’d have to do it free for another, how would he make money then?
he completely misinterpreted “jesus walks” the song was saying that no matter how bad wut ur doin is, if u wanna change urself and become born again, jesus will walk 4 u. any moron could’ve figured that out.
playing that john legend video had NOTHING 2 DO W/ JESUS WALKS and again misinterpreted the vid.
it seems that his goal in life isnt to win souls but 2 destroy hip hop but that’s a losing battle cuz those kids that u preach to will go home and bust out sum dj unk LOL. dude just sounds like a bitter man who never made it in the rap business (female version of ms. jones always dissing beyonce).
the thing is more kids knew about jesus when kanye west said his name then U DID HOMIE….and 4 that u should be commending kanye 4, not trying 2 bash his character w/ miscontrued facts/information….that isn’t christian like and JESUS IS MAD AT U
and another thing, the thing w/ SUM (not all) preachers is that they can be so grimey. i mean they can be taking money from the church and buying a new whip or sum shit like dat. u seriously can’t trust all of them, but we’re so groomed 2 trust them and that they can never do any harm. the fact is, theyre not God, they’re human to and have/will make shitty mistakes. i mean history always repeats itself. look how the shitty the catholic church is (from martin luther in the 1600s - to banging choir boys in the present). black pastors 2 have been known 2 be fucked up as well. from stealing money, to having affairs….u really can’t trust every pastor u meet. atleast w/ rappers u kno theyre background and u kno wut ur gonna get…but preachers are always a mystery which they like that way. but again this is sum, not all preachers….but this guy is def jus a false prophet….God is ashamed of u, and as a christian i am 2
This Reverand is doing the same thing that all this older people in Hip-Hop& people like Al Sharpton are doing…..they don’t realize that the majority of the youth now-a-days are very free minded and have a strict mind of there own…..Kanye West was not playing wit the structure of all churches when he directed John Legends video, he simply showed how some churches/pastors actually are, and Jesus Walks is a song that if anything says to our generation that even if your sinning, or sometimes living a backsliding life jesus can forgive you and it’s okay to ask Jesus to look over you…because a lot of pastors try to separate there members from the lost out in the streets, and they make those on the outside feel like they have no hope gettin into heaven….But soon we’ll understand!!!!
@35 so true man that’s why some black people are their own worst enemy, they need to just shut-up and stop complaining about white people because it’s obvious some blacks don’t have their mess together either. I’m black too.
Now this so-called preacher I’ve seen some of his sermons at my church and that’s all he does is criticize people. He blows things out of proportion and most of the time he don’t know what he’s talking about. Like ppl said he just a bitter man with alot of baggage under his belt and so there for he picks on others especially rappers because he didn’t make it in the rap world. I condemned him for being a Christian but in Matthew Jesus says JUDGE YE NOT. Nobody even a Christian is perfect but Jesus. For we all have sin and fall short of the glory of God. Jesus is the only person that has not sin and it will continue this way until God calls his saints on earth into heaven. This guy needs to cease from his jealously and preach the Gospel. He so worried about rappers teaching the youth the wrong thing, I haven’t heard him preach to them about salvation. I swear people really contradict themselves. Leave Kanye and John Legend to GOD. Just make sure you get right with God.
i feel this man just want to target a person that has been very successful on the fact that he wrote a song about jesus what he need to realize that he is try to help the young American learn more about jesus threw his music hip hop is something that million of people listen to and that song help millions of people in many way and show a message if you stop all your wrongs jeus is there to help go on the right passage and feel that man should set down because if he talk about money what church has project and $2,000 computer
LMAO at dude talking about Kanye asking for money to appear at a church when he ststes ” i get emails from people asking “pastor, pastor can you come to my church?” when they don’t understand that cost money for you to come to the chutch” he says that with about 3:25 left
Real talk churchs should’nt mix God with music and my generation today is all messed up wit all this fake yeah I said FAKE Hip hop music. What ever happened to uplifting our people??? Went all down tha drain and we the one’s to blame for it if we really look at it change happens when you want it to happen not when u see someones else doing it first.
yea yall this the same guy who said jay did that crap with that song.any jay fan know that that song was about his best friend getting killed and he wanted to go and kill the guys that did that to his friend at the end of the song jay was talking to god saying let my friend into heaven he’s a good dude and the song he played backwards was real it came from this mixtape some dj made using jays acapella and the beatles old songs it’s called (the grey album) look it up on wekepedia this dude is pretty much bitter no diss to him but his facts are all twisted jay said he was gonna sue him he really should consider it still cause jay did more for his people than this dude ever did ha ha it’s a shame and i can’t believe he talking about kanye well he might as well get on yolanda adams cause she performed jesus walks with him oh yall seen fade to black lucifer was kanye’s song fisrt and yall know jay was raised muslim but grew up and bacame a christian anyway dude need to preach about something else cause rappers convosation is makeing u look like a real rip off
Man… The more I read these blogs, the more I see that no one cares about anything but money… If it makes you money then don’t knock it huh… If a black man makes money, then don’t say anything negative… Well, I’m not any man’s judge, but I do know that you have to be careful when using God’s name for vain purposes… But I know my comment won’t mean anything to yall… Cuz he gettin paid.
There is actually a church in my area that mixes hip hop with church. It attracts a lot of youth. They mix crunk hip hop with the word / the gospel and it is actually quite successful. If you want to get our children into church you have to appeal to them. SMH @ this “preacher” who’s money hungry himself trying to pass judgement against Kanye/John Legend. He’s taking the videos and songs all out of context and just using the net to make a name for himself.
The “preacher” mentioned that Kanye and J. Legend are “turning church into a show”. If you ask me, it’s been a show long before either one of these cats…
Further, this guys appears to be just upset that they’re getting paid more off Jesus than he is.. LOL
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June 9th, 2007 at 8:42 pm
Yeah, if he did it for free or for less…he would have to do it for every church in America.
But since the performance was for a church and a song about Jesus many will say that no matter what the performance should have been free of charge.
Dude kind of misses the point of the song and the video version he is talking about.
That scene from the Used To Love You video is the main reason I like that joint…LOL
June 9th, 2007 at 8:43 pm
je suis le premier
June 9th, 2007 at 8:52 pm
like I said in my own church..Kanye’s song taught more kids about Jesus then the church ever did
June 9th, 2007 at 8:55 pm
i think this is the same clown that accused jay of worshiping the devil with a bunch of propaganda and bullshit so i already cant take him seriously. lol at him saying “jesus walks is not actually about jesus” then saying it was 2 seconds later, just not the way he wanted. he looks at shit completely out of context and trys to make it say what he wants. showing the john legend video was completely pointless…what did that prove? anyone know this guys name? instead of trying to soil the names of successful black men who are making positive contributions to the world he should follow their example and use his voice to change the world for the better instead of blatantly lying for no real reason.
June 9th, 2007 at 9:23 pm
i aint no choir kid… he aint look like a legit pastor
lol@ him wif a mac laptop when he preaches…isnt the internet the devillll?
June 9th, 2007 at 9:30 pm
Thank you number 4 wat u said is abosoutely true this guy obviosuly didnt do research about this at all
June 9th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Thats some bullshit. At least Kanye had tha balls to rep what he stood for. A lot of church boyz get out of church and act like thugz in front of their friends. Kanye actually made it cool to stand up for Jesus. And as far as the video,the bling bling before going into church and tha fake laying of hands on people really happens in the church. I think this dude iz just tryin to get a big name for hisself thru the internet. Just like rappers get put-on thru youtube and myspace..Thats wat he’s doing. You thought 50 had a publicity stunt….haha
June 9th, 2007 at 9:48 pm
WHEN IT ALL BOILS DOWN HE TRYIN TO MAKE MONEY LIKE THE DUDE ON TOP OF ME SAID(NO HOMO), CAUSE CONTREVERSY SALES JUST LIKE SEX. HE TAKES STUFF OUT OF CONTEXT AND DEMONIZE HIPHOP AND R&B FOR THE FAULTS OF THE YOUTH AND THEIR KIDS. EVERYBODY KNOWS IT STARTS AT HOME CRAIGE G. THATS HIS NAME
June 9th, 2007 at 10:18 pm
i agree #4…this guy has other videos where he’s talking about bone thugs…it seems like his main objective is talking about hip hop instead of preaching…#3 you’re right kids can’t relate to a pastor reading from a bible they relate to rap music and kanye touched a lot of people with that song
June 9th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Everything this man is saying is blasphemy.
First and foremost why should Kanye be obligated to perform for free? More people will attend church and overings will be larger so the Pastor benifits and pulls a larger congregation. Ask homie what kind of car he drives. Some Pastors be cakin’ more then your average dope boy. I bet you if your chruch wanted him to come preach he would charge you out the ass as well. This man missed the whole point of the song and video. He reminds me of dude who comes on tv late at night trying to sell annoited hankchiefs. Everyone is a critic, didn’t God say let he who has no sin cast the first stone and thou shall not judge.
Chuuuuuuuchhhhhhhhhh
June 9th, 2007 at 10:31 pm
This pastor is undercover rap fan, how does he know about all these rappers and songs, and videos…
June 9th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
Blah..i remember goin to chuch once and they showed us this same thing..basically bashing hip hop..sorry but some of it was B/S to me..i think he’s the one who said Aaliyah died because she did a vampire movie? thats the most dumb=iest shiit i’v heard in my life..lmfao she died cause he was her time..i just dont be understanding people sometimes..but whatever im still listening to wtf i want 2..
June 9th, 2007 at 11:15 pm
lol at 10 this muthafuka prolly heated they dont show bet uncut nomore lol n yea he did try n gey jay talkin bout play the lucifer record backwards n it say murder murder jesus 666 lol i aint hear it nother pimp-preacher just a new way to pimp the internet
June 9th, 2007 at 11:49 pm
man dude was a mutha fuckin joke..He aint have a problem wit kanyae… His problem was that kanyae mad wit one song what dude dosent even make in a fuckin year!!!!!!!!!! Das wut all the anger wus about…
June 10th, 2007 at 12:04 am
haha… was this really his sermon? He must’ve had a late night in the club.
June 10th, 2007 at 12:59 am
im not even a christian and i can tell that this man seems to have a severe misunderstanding of who or what jesus preached. then he tried to imply that having a close personal relationship with jesus is blasphemy? i thought that was the point of christianity. the point of the song is that you can be forgiven for all the sins in the world but this guy thinks that kanye is saying that jesus is fine with it if you sin. then to condemn a rapper for rapping about g-d and spirituality is moronic. what more could he want? i guarantee you this guy has worse problems to work on in his community than kanye west’s real or fake spiritual beliefs.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:26 am
People are always sayin shit mad about some artist or kind of music and always got something to moan about, it will always be this way where everyone has an opinion, but with what that guy sayin if u already really into the music and the artist no matter what they say its not gona change your views or opinions your still gona like the tunes anyway, people talkin about in hip hop shouldnt be allowed to say certain things, its “derogatory” some bollocks, yet theres a fuckin pastor preachin away and shit about the devil and kanye west his tune aint about jesus, yet do the fans turn on you and say “hey u cant say that shit, ur a pastor we like the music, leave the music we love alone” music is made for people, for people to enjoy,, we love the music oh and i guess he was updatin his ipod on his lil apple mac takin off all his kanye west and jhon legend tunes, it obviously jus came wit the church the lil apple mac he’s got.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:30 am
tHIs cAt is A hAM…
eRrTHING kANyE dID In THa VIdeO…
fAkE cATcHIN tHA hOLy ghOsT…
gO TO cHUrCh FOR lUSt…
aNd aLOt of thE pEOpLE jUsT gO tO jUST bE sEEn
tHEy BE dOIN IN rEAl CHURcHEs…
aLL ACroSs AMeRIcA…
tHIs cAT is JuS uSIN hiPhOP aS aN eXcUSE fOR tHe DEViL..
hE’S A lAME…
June 10th, 2007 at 3:09 am
Kanye West’s song was about the fact that Jesus walked with him even though he was moving cocaine and involved with other ilegal activities. It didn’t declare he was a christian as many other religions belive in the deity of or see Jesus as a profit. Kanye was proving a point that to pharaphrase Kanye “they say you can rap anything except for Jesus” the strength of the song which was written in partnershi? with Rhymefest was that Kanye wrote a song that spoke about Jesus and was successful. It was never a Christian song or ever tried to highlight Christian Living. This is where the guy missed the point it was a song for non belivers not for belivers and if Christians want the song they probably haven’t listened to the words, look at what Jesus said when faced with a similar dilemma . Mk 9:38 - Mk 9:40 (NKJV)
Now John answered Him, saying, ?Teacher, we saw someone who does not follow us casting out demons in Your name, and we forbade him because he does not follow us.? But Jesus said, ?Do not forbid him, for no one who works ings a miracle in My name can soon afterward speak evil of Me. For he who is not against us is on our side.
Peaca and Blessings
Rich
June 10th, 2007 at 3:20 am
a girl on a next message board said this guy is the female version of ms jones from hot 97. her father knew him. he was a wanna be rapper and he did not made it, so he turn against rappers. Try get TJ jakes to come to your church to preach and se how much he’s gonna charge you.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:14 am
I dont know….This man gets seafood flown in from the UK for $4000, then goes and charges a church/house of God $30,0000 to perform for 5-10 minutes? That is some f*cked up shit. Kanye is already paid & should’ve done the performance for free out of kindness & generosity. It’s not like he needed the money.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:43 am
how do you know he got 30k?? just cos this guy said it? also the thing about kanye getting seafood from the Uk flown over (i heard it was an indian food order) but regardless that was a rumour i.e. not true.
June 10th, 2007 at 4:45 am
Come on Mi Mi you think Gospel artists perform at churches for free? Nope
June 10th, 2007 at 4:53 am
Wat d pastor is saying make sense. All things that are meant to be carried out in church are not carried out properly anymore nowadays. When u go deeper into spirituality, which everyone is meant to, you guyz will see how much this world is sining.
For example, yall know all those lyrics them rappers spit about having orgies are damn wrong. The pastor is making a damn point and people should open there minds to what he is saying.
June 10th, 2007 at 5:41 am
Point blank, any and everything you take in will influence you one way or the other. I feel the pastor on trying to make a point, but I also feel he’s very gimmicky. Why talk about “Jesus Walks” then turn around and show a completely different video?
I mean, the song and the Jonh Leged vid are somewhat related, simply because both are dealing with spiritual temptation (which is DEFINITELY in ANY and EVERYBODY’s life, Christian or not). Even in “JW” Kanye says “God show me the way because the devil’s trying to break me down,” for that pastor to deny that feeling/moment as a Christian…that’s blasphemy to me. It comes across like he has that “Holier Than Thou” syndrome. HE KNOWS he’s been tempted…EVEN JESUS was tempted, so why is he even playing. Ya dig?
June 10th, 2007 at 6:12 am
@ Mi Mi #20:
the food delivery from the UK was simply a rumor and Ye denied that he did such a thing- I think on his myspace. The 30k for a church perfomance is another rumor that sounds suspect in various ways. We are gonna have to wait for a statement of a more reliable source.
But let’s assume he really got 30k for it.. what could have been his motive? I only have one explanation for it.. the pastor or whosoever wanted more ppl coming to this church, so he booked Kanye to perform. (if you also look at church being a business someone needs to run it somehow- some just have a building fond for example) I assume Kanye wasn’t called up and being asked for a free perfomance / charity event at this church. Ye was probably booked. I can not blame Kanye for that. Imagine 500 churches call his agent asking for a free performance.. he couldn’t do it.
June 10th, 2007 at 6:17 am
oh yeah and the guy in the video - that’s pathetic! it’s like judging a book by it’s cover. too many ppl run around nowadays not getting really ivolved with the things they feel the urge to talk about. dig deeper, please!
June 10th, 2007 at 7:26 am
rappers/preachers no difference one justs talks over a beat and rhyme and the other doesn’t
June 10th, 2007 at 7:30 am
@ chosen2befly
Point well taken.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:32 am
lol i agree@27
June 10th, 2007 at 9:22 am
THE PREACHERS HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE SCARED…CAUSE THINK ABOUT IT…RAP IS REALLY THE NEW NEW TESTAMENT…RAPPERS ARE THE NEW PREACHERS…THAT’S WHY IT WAS SUCH AN EASY TRANSITION FOR REV. RUN, MASE…AND SOON TO BE, DMX,PASTOR TROY, AND YEP YOU GUESSED IT KANYE WEST. ALL OF THE PREACHERS HAVE QUESTIONABLE CHARACTER, THAT’S WHY THEY HATE GAMBLING, NOT CAUSE ITS’ EVIL, IT’S BECAUSE IT WILL TAKE AWAY FROM THE CHURCHES POCKET ON SUNDAY. THEY DON’T PREACH AGAINST PREMARITAL SEX, HOMOSEXUALITY, OR RACE RELATIONS. THEY LOWER THEIR STANDARDS IN ORDER TO PACK THE BENCHES.(GET THAT GWAP). HELL THE RAPPERS ALREADY HAVE STAR POWER. PLUS MOST PREACHERS GOT DIRT ON THEM ANYWAY. THE CHURCHES HAVE BEEN PENETRATED BY THE DEVIL FOR SOME TIME NOW.I TRIED GOING TO CHURCH BUT COULDN’T CONCENTRATE BECAUSE ALL THE WOMEN WERE DRESSED LIKE THEY GOING TO THE CLUB,(NOT THAT I MIND, BUT I DIDN’T COME TO CHURCH TO BE TEMPTED). BUT I DIGRESS.
pREACHERES BE AFRAID OF WASHED UP RAPPERS…THEY COMING TO A PULPIT NEAR YOU,, WITH STAR POWER…LMAO.
June 10th, 2007 at 9:41 am
Yeah this guy is a joke he does this to all rappers, he just wants some of that rap money! He just said “all the kids were emailing me telling me to come to the Church but they don’t understand it cost to get me there but…” He’s about money also that’s why he makes these dumb dvd’s about rappers because it catches the attention of the youth. SMH@THIS GUY, get this guy name I’m going to make a dvd about him.
June 10th, 2007 at 11:00 am
LOLOL this is the same nigga who said Jay-Z is teaching ppl about the devil b/c they played his record backyards. the song was called “lucifer” off the black album…BUT of course this nigga is gonna purposely take the song outta text to try 2 prove sum point. now hes doin this shit LOL.
first of all why should kanye perform a song 4 free?? if he does it free for one church he’d have to do it free for another, how would he make money then?
he completely misinterpreted “jesus walks” the song was saying that no matter how bad wut ur doin is, if u wanna change urself and become born again, jesus will walk 4 u. any moron could’ve figured that out.
playing that john legend video had NOTHING 2 DO W/ JESUS WALKS and again misinterpreted the vid.
it seems that his goal in life isnt to win souls but 2 destroy hip hop but that’s a losing battle cuz those kids that u preach to will go home and bust out sum dj unk LOL. dude just sounds like a bitter man who never made it in the rap business (female version of ms. jones always dissing beyonce).
the thing is more kids knew about jesus when kanye west said his name then U DID HOMIE….and 4 that u should be commending kanye 4, not trying 2 bash his character w/ miscontrued facts/information….that isn’t christian like and JESUS IS MAD AT U
June 10th, 2007 at 11:06 am
and another thing, the thing w/ SUM (not all) preachers is that they can be so grimey. i mean they can be taking money from the church and buying a new whip or sum shit like dat. u seriously can’t trust all of them, but we’re so groomed 2 trust them and that they can never do any harm. the fact is, theyre not God, they’re human to and have/will make shitty mistakes. i mean history always repeats itself. look how the shitty the catholic church is (from martin luther in the 1600s - to banging choir boys in the present). black pastors 2 have been known 2 be fucked up as well. from stealing money, to having affairs….u really can’t trust every pastor u meet. atleast w/ rappers u kno theyre background and u kno wut ur gonna get…but preachers are always a mystery which they like that way. but again this is sum, not all preachers….but this guy is def jus a false prophet….God is ashamed of u, and as a christian i am 2
June 10th, 2007 at 11:14 am
sometimes black people dont like anything positive for the black person and yes im black
June 10th, 2007 at 12:01 pm
This Reverand is doing the same thing that all this older people in Hip-Hop& people like Al Sharpton are doing…..they don’t realize that the majority of the youth now-a-days are very free minded and have a strict mind of there own…..Kanye West was not playing wit the structure of all churches when he directed John Legends video, he simply showed how some churches/pastors actually are, and Jesus Walks is a song that if anything says to our generation that even if your sinning, or sometimes living a backsliding life jesus can forgive you and it’s okay to ask Jesus to look over you…because a lot of pastors try to separate there members from the lost out in the streets, and they make those on the outside feel like they have no hope gettin into heaven….But soon we’ll understand!!!!
June 10th, 2007 at 12:22 pm
@35 so true man that’s why some black people are their own worst enemy, they need to just shut-up and stop complaining about white people because it’s obvious some blacks don’t have their mess together either. I’m black too.
Now this so-called preacher I’ve seen some of his sermons at my church and that’s all he does is criticize people. He blows things out of proportion and most of the time he don’t know what he’s talking about. Like ppl said he just a bitter man with alot of baggage under his belt and so there for he picks on others especially rappers because he didn’t make it in the rap world. I condemned him for being a Christian but in Matthew Jesus says JUDGE YE NOT. Nobody even a Christian is perfect but Jesus. For we all have sin and fall short of the glory of God. Jesus is the only person that has not sin and it will continue this way until God calls his saints on earth into heaven. This guy needs to cease from his jealously and preach the Gospel. He so worried about rappers teaching the youth the wrong thing, I haven’t heard him preach to them about salvation. I swear people really contradict themselves. Leave Kanye and John Legend to GOD. Just make sure you get right with God.
June 10th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
i feel this man just want to target a person that has been very successful on the fact that he wrote a song about jesus what he need to realize that he is try to help the young American learn more about jesus threw his music hip hop is something that million of people listen to and that song help millions of people in many way and show a message if you stop all your wrongs jeus is there to help go on the right passage and feel that man should set down because if he talk about money what church has project and $2,000 computer
June 10th, 2007 at 1:54 pm
LMAO at dude talking about Kanye asking for money to appear at a church when he ststes ” i get emails from people asking “pastor, pastor can you come to my church?” when they don’t understand that cost money for you to come to the chutch” he says that with about 3:25 left
June 10th, 2007 at 3:10 pm
#39 I KNOW, a complete contradiction….this dude is so sad
June 10th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
(*yawn*)…when he starts talking about solutions, instead of problems, wake me up.
June 10th, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Real talk churchs should’nt mix God with music and my generation today is all messed up wit all this fake yeah I said FAKE Hip hop music. What ever happened to uplifting our people??? Went all down tha drain and we the one’s to blame for it if we really look at it change happens when you want it to happen not when u see someones else doing it first.
June 10th, 2007 at 10:10 pm
yea yall this the same guy who said jay did that crap with that song.any jay fan know that that song was about his best friend getting killed and he wanted to go and kill the guys that did that to his friend at the end of the song jay was talking to god saying let my friend into heaven he’s a good dude and the song he played backwards was real it came from this mixtape some dj made using jays acapella and the beatles old songs it’s called (the grey album) look it up on wekepedia this dude is pretty much bitter no diss to him but his facts are all twisted jay said he was gonna sue him he really should consider it still cause jay did more for his people than this dude ever did ha ha it’s a shame and i can’t believe he talking about kanye well he might as well get on yolanda adams cause she performed jesus walks with him oh yall seen fade to black lucifer was kanye’s song fisrt and yall know jay was raised muslim but grew up and bacame a christian anyway dude need to preach about something else cause rappers convosation is makeing u look like a real rip off
June 11th, 2007 at 4:45 am
Man… The more I read these blogs, the more I see that no one cares about anything but money… If it makes you money then don’t knock it huh… If a black man makes money, then don’t say anything negative… Well, I’m not any man’s judge, but I do know that you have to be careful when using God’s name for vain purposes… But I know my comment won’t mean anything to yall… Cuz he gettin paid.
June 11th, 2007 at 6:33 am
There is actually a church in my area that mixes hip hop with church. It attracts a lot of youth. They mix crunk hip hop with the word / the gospel and it is actually quite successful. If you want to get our children into church you have to appeal to them. SMH @ this “preacher” who’s money hungry himself trying to pass judgement against Kanye/John Legend. He’s taking the videos and songs all out of context and just using the net to make a name for himself.
June 11th, 2007 at 9:17 am
The “preacher” mentioned that Kanye and J. Legend are “turning church into a show”. If you ask me, it’s been a show long before either one of these cats…
Further, this guys appears to be just upset that they’re getting paid more off Jesus than he is.. LOL