How is Russell a Coon? What is the problem with editing songs on the public radio so those words don’t have to reach the youth in our country? If your old enough, you can buy the record. I see that as a fair compromise. I don’t think Russell took a “L” realtalkny, but i’ll admit he shoulda smashed on Bill Maher for tryna make wisecracks about HipHop. Even though 50, Jay aint poor, they at one time were the voice, and theirs still alot more rappers who are the voice of the poor.
You find that success still comes with a witch hunt. I think it was funny and at the same time it back fired that Russell used nigga on his show. For centuries white people been saying nigger so how in the hell is it deemed offensive to them. Bill Maher and his guests looked pretty much defensive/cold about the reverse psychology played on them. Gooooood on you Russell.
Please stop using the term coon like you know what it actually means. On the internet, it seems like the new and cool thing to do, calling people coons, Uncle Toms, or house n!ggas, you all kill me with your need to throw around sensitive slavery time related words.
Why did Russell say “this n!gga” in front of all these white people on national television? Yet he is trying to censor these words within rap? I think he is playing a game with everyone for his own image and comes off as very contradictive and hypocritical. I lost an ounce of respect for him when I heard this.
Yes, he is trying to censor the word “nigga”..but he is also trying to censor the words “bitc”h and “hoe”….why was it ok for him to say “bitch’ and “hoe,” but not nigga??
i don’t think number 7 and 8, (as well as many others in out society) aren’t listening to what he is saying. He’s not saying that those words should be erased from our vocabulary, or that rappers can’t say them. He says that we should censor them from the public radio so the youth doesn’t have to be exposed to it. Listen to what he is actually saying before you criticize him.
As much as i respect Russell, I think bill made a decent point..most rap songs that are out today are the same.Rappers need to expand on there material. Every other song is about how successful they are compared to other rappers and about how many girls they have. As for that whole nonsense regarding censorship regarding those 3 words is a total violation of our freedom of speech.And even further on that point..if a word can be said by one group of people it should be able to be said by everyone.
By Russell saying “this nigga” in front of all “these crackas” it made him look bad cuz he’s in the presence of people who dont understand the word the same way as blacks have come to know the word. Regardless I choose not to use the word, but if I do use it, it will be in front of my own people. If I were to say it around white people, more than likely i would be callin them niggers. Like “that
Nigger George Bush is a fuck up”.-Get It?!
lol this guy was basically trying 2 make a mockery of russell simmons, russell isnt trying to ban the word “nigga” he jus wants it off the mainstream radio stations so that lil kids dont hear the word. he doesnt believe in censorship, he just said if u wanna hear that stuff go 2 da club, or more importantly buy their albums
Nope….Russell “Did Him”…just like he said. He’s there to promote the book…and everyone keeps trying to tie him to Don Imus downfall. “Well you say it” shit. Jews call each other Kikes and hook nosed Jew bastards, i.e. Howard Stern. Let Jesse Jackson say it. Women call each other “Bitches”,but let a man call them a bitch. No white man call say “What up Nigga” and a black person will feel like it’s a term of endearment. It is what it is. Stop trying to blame hip hop for shit. You are totally trying to sidetrack a nigga.
And I bet that anybody that agreed with Bill Mahr is probably white. Hip Hop is about “Ego”…You goddamn right it is. It’s competition. Don’t like it don’t listen.
NIGGA…AMERICA IS ABOUT EGO..ME,ME,ME,ME. PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS AND ALL THAT SHIT!
IF YOU DON’T LIKE RAP..GO LISTEN TO OZZY, OR COLDPLAY OR SOMETHING.
FOR YALL NIGGAZ WHO DON’T REALLY LIKE RAP, YOU SURE DO STAY POSTING IN THE “HIP HOP FORUMS” AND LISTENING TO RAP.
GO WATCH SOME “WILL AND GRACE” EPISODES OR SOMETHING. I WANNA HEAR DIPSET, OR NAS AND JAY Z.
YALL NEED TO EDIT AND CENSOR SOME OF THESE UNINFORMED OPINIONS YALL GOT..YOU SHOULDN’T HEAR BITCH,HOE,NIGGA ON FREE RADIO..WHILE KIDS ARE LISTENING..DUH..(PARENTAL ADVISORY).
I DON’T KNOW WHAT YALL ARE SEEING BUT..RUSSEL SHUT THEM DOWN. THEY WERE ALL AGAINST THEM.
BASICALLY IT’S NOT CONTAINED TO THE GHETTO ANYMORE, WE ARE ALL ONE. NOW SUBURBAN KIDS ARE WILDING BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE PARENTS AT HOME NOW, AND THEY WANT TO BLAME IT ON HIP HOP.
MONITOR WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING, AND WE WONT’ HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CAM’RONS INFLUENCE OVER YA KIDS. SIMPLE.
I think Russell did alright there maaan. That dude bill is an educated clown so you have to be on game with him. Russ got some exposure for his book and handled himself fine to me at least.
Russel need to stop tryna explain the way we live to a bunch of people who don’t understand and quite frankly no matter how good of an explanation you give they aint tryna hear it
Society is full with double standards, get over it. Jews make fun of each other (Orthodox, Russian Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Moroccoan Jews, etc), Blacks make fun of each other or call each other names, Women say bitch to each other,Irish, Italian, Polish, Russians, it goes on and on. People need to stop acting like Blacks are the only one. Raps shit anyway, destroy and rebuild, they should censor swearwords on radio, get over it. People need to stop bringing up Free Speech, Free Speech entitles you the right NOT TO BE ARRESTED for saying something. Rappers, Russell, Executives, BET, MTV, Radio are all hypocrites, Like Kanye West, “They dont care about Black People”, they just want to re-enforce ignorance and stereotypes and make $$$, cant knock their hustle.
People act like Rappers are so powerful, where are the parents? The same people criticizing Rap about the language and subject matter are writing rave reviews about, Sopranos Girl Next Door Desperate Housewives and dont say shit about the soft core porn that comes on at 12am. People hold rap to a standard that they dont hold other entertainment to, as 50 cent says. But at the same time, Rappers are making the genre boring
I WAS NOT FEELING THE WHOLE CONVERSATION BETWEEN RUSSELL ANF BILL MAHER. I DON’T AGREE WITH HIS USE OF THE WORD NIGGA - IT WAS PIERCING AND EMBARRASSING. I ALSO DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE ABOUT YOGA AND I UNDERSTAND CLEARING OF THE MIND BUT ALL THAT OTHER STUFF - WHAT THE HELL WAS HE TALKING ABOUT??
I AGREE WITH A PREVIOUS POST, RUSSEL HAS LOST A BIT OF CREDIBILITY BUT IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER CAUSE HE IS STILL ‘DOING HIM’ AND MAKING A BUNCH OF PAPER. CAN’T BE TOO MAD AT HIM.
Oh yeah of course its a double standard…those people don’t have a clue what russell is trying to say,and russell don’t have a clue his got damn self at this point..He was there to talk about a book?!?..But that just shows you how left in the dark people really are about the rap genre and the black communities in general everywhere..they wanna find people to put on blast about the rap industry and thus the rap lyrics..And russell was the scapegoat for Bill Maher and his panel/audience…Rap is not as bad as the people who don’t understand it makes it out to be..Indeed some artist do make fucked up music thats a given and on the same note some people just are fucked up period..there is no getting by that, but for them to put rap lyrics on blast like that is unacceptable…just hop in the time capsule for a second and think…They destroyed the black panther party,killed Dr.King a man who preached peace an non-violence labeled him the #1 threat to america…And Despite all of this the KKK still exist…FURTHERMORE I’LL BE DAMNED IF RAP IS USED AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR AMERICA’S PROBLEMS…Just my thoughts peace
I just finished Russel’s book.Wierd,but overall,A devine read.5% of the book talked about him being a vegan.whutupwitdat??? The Bill Maher show proves one thing.you might have the cash,but u cannot cash in your face.He was worse on Russ then he was to Republicans.Russ,Next time be a more patient listner and make your points edgewise.That interview COST you a few million on your book sales.
everyone talking about what russell should do, how he made his self look bad, this man not worried about what yall or the next man or women think. I bet you one thing… THAT BOOK THAT HE IS PROMOTING IS GOING TO SELL!!!! THATS THE ONLY REASON HE CAME ON THE SHOW!!!
I’m curious, how does Russell know how we live? He hasn’t been poor or working class for over 20 years. He isn’t being affected by the gentrification of New York. Russell is at a point where he is trying to expand his political/business career at the expense of his own people. Hip Hop changed a long time ago. The voice of the people was replaced by the voice of the people trying to get theirs! When a black man says that 95% of the Diamond mines in Africa are blood free, that should tell you about that ‘brother’. He’s trying to get his money. He’s going to say what he has to in order to get his loot. In terms of using language like sell out, sambo, coon, that language needs to be brought back. It was the language we used before the man, divided us with Equal Opportunity. It identifies those individuals that are against the whole. Some people don’t like this language because it makes them look at themselves, and they usually don’t like what they see. Black people never condemn black people, especially if they have money. That is part of the problem. When that changes, things will change for us. Hopefully some good Hip Hop will come back to save our people, but right now, it doesn’t look like our people want to save themselves. For all of you who think it is better for the few to be better off than the whole, I eagerly await your replies.
I don’t think he took an “L” at all.
Bill Maher was doing what he normally does. He makes fun of situations. That’s why he has a TV show.
I think Russell approached the situation the way he did because, he had a small window to make his point and he might have felt that if he let Bill carry on he (Bill) might waste the time jokes.
They only really laughed when he made the Beverly Hills/ Compton comment.
Can’t please everyone.
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May 20th, 2007 at 10:34 am
fuck russell simmons…take this coon ass nigga to sierra leone and let him experience the oh so precious diamond industry he protects
May 20th, 2007 at 10:38 am
He did pretty well…Bill Mahr is an ass, Russel was speaking on some real..Mahr was drunk trying to get a laugh from every comment..
presumtious faggit
May 20th, 2007 at 10:55 am
How is Russell a Coon? What is the problem with editing songs on the public radio so those words don’t have to reach the youth in our country? If your old enough, you can buy the record. I see that as a fair compromise. I don’t think Russell took a “L” realtalkny, but i’ll admit he shoulda smashed on Bill Maher for tryna make wisecracks about HipHop. Even though 50, Jay aint poor, they at one time were the voice, and theirs still alot more rappers who are the voice of the poor.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:11 am
You find that success still comes with a witch hunt. I think it was funny and at the same time it back fired that Russell used nigga on his show. For centuries white people been saying nigger so how in the hell is it deemed offensive to them. Bill Maher and his guests looked pretty much defensive/cold about the reverse psychology played on them. Gooooood on you Russell.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:56 am
Please stop using the term coon like you know what it actually means. On the internet, it seems like the new and cool thing to do, calling people coons, Uncle Toms, or house n!ggas, you all kill me with your need to throw around sensitive slavery time related words.
May 20th, 2007 at 11:59 am
WHat the fuck is this faggit talking about. He should be talking about some relevant shit, this nigga is babbling about bullshit.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:04 pm
Why did Russell say “this n!gga” in front of all these white people on national television? Yet he is trying to censor these words within rap? I think he is playing a game with everyone for his own image and comes off as very contradictive and hypocritical. I lost an ounce of respect for him when I heard this.
May 20th, 2007 at 12:25 pm
Yes, he is trying to censor the word “nigga”..but he is also trying to censor the words “bitc”h and “hoe”….why was it ok for him to say “bitch’ and “hoe,” but not nigga??
May 20th, 2007 at 1:02 pm
i don’t think number 7 and 8, (as well as many others in out society) aren’t listening to what he is saying. He’s not saying that those words should be erased from our vocabulary, or that rappers can’t say them. He says that we should censor them from the public radio so the youth doesn’t have to be exposed to it. Listen to what he is actually saying before you criticize him.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:05 pm
As much as i respect Russell, I think bill made a decent point..most rap songs that are out today are the same.Rappers need to expand on there material. Every other song is about how successful they are compared to other rappers and about how many girls they have. As for that whole nonsense regarding censorship regarding those 3 words is a total violation of our freedom of speech.And even further on that point..if a word can be said by one group of people it should be able to be said by everyone.
May 20th, 2007 at 1:26 pm
By Russell saying “this nigga” in front of all “these crackas” it made him look bad cuz he’s in the presence of people who dont understand the word the same way as blacks have come to know the word. Regardless I choose not to use the word, but if I do use it, it will be in front of my own people. If I were to say it around white people, more than likely i would be callin them niggers. Like “that
Nigger George Bush is a fuck up”.-Get It?!
May 20th, 2007 at 2:38 pm
lol this guy was basically trying 2 make a mockery of russell simmons, russell isnt trying to ban the word “nigga” he jus wants it off the mainstream radio stations so that lil kids dont hear the word. he doesnt believe in censorship, he just said if u wanna hear that stuff go 2 da club, or more importantly buy their albums
May 20th, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Nope….Russell “Did Him”…just like he said. He’s there to promote the book…and everyone keeps trying to tie him to Don Imus downfall. “Well you say it” shit. Jews call each other Kikes and hook nosed Jew bastards, i.e. Howard Stern. Let Jesse Jackson say it. Women call each other “Bitches”,but let a man call them a bitch. No white man call say “What up Nigga” and a black person will feel like it’s a term of endearment. It is what it is. Stop trying to blame hip hop for shit. You are totally trying to sidetrack a nigga.
And I bet that anybody that agreed with Bill Mahr is probably white. Hip Hop is about “Ego”…You goddamn right it is. It’s competition. Don’t like it don’t listen.
NIGGA…AMERICA IS ABOUT EGO..ME,ME,ME,ME. PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS AND ALL THAT SHIT!
IF YOU DON’T LIKE RAP..GO LISTEN TO OZZY, OR COLDPLAY OR SOMETHING.
FOR YALL NIGGAZ WHO DON’T REALLY LIKE RAP, YOU SURE DO STAY POSTING IN THE “HIP HOP FORUMS” AND LISTENING TO RAP.
GO WATCH SOME “WILL AND GRACE” EPISODES OR SOMETHING. I WANNA HEAR DIPSET, OR NAS AND JAY Z.
May 20th, 2007 at 2:50 pm
YALL NEED TO EDIT AND CENSOR SOME OF THESE UNINFORMED OPINIONS YALL GOT..YOU SHOULDN’T HEAR BITCH,HOE,NIGGA ON FREE RADIO..WHILE KIDS ARE LISTENING..DUH..(PARENTAL ADVISORY).
I DON’T KNOW WHAT YALL ARE SEEING BUT..RUSSEL SHUT THEM DOWN. THEY WERE ALL AGAINST THEM.
BASICALLY IT’S NOT CONTAINED TO THE GHETTO ANYMORE, WE ARE ALL ONE. NOW SUBURBAN KIDS ARE WILDING BECAUSE THEY DONT HAVE PARENTS AT HOME NOW, AND THEY WANT TO BLAME IT ON HIP HOP.
MONITOR WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE DOING, AND WE WONT’ HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CAM’RONS INFLUENCE OVER YA KIDS. SIMPLE.
May 20th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
I think Russell did alright there maaan. That dude bill is an educated clown so you have to be on game with him. Russ got some exposure for his book and handled himself fine to me at least.
May 20th, 2007 at 3:28 pm
Bill Maher probly fucked up the women in his family after he stay banging them sistas muahahaha
May 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Russel need to stop tryna explain the way we live to a bunch of people who don’t understand and quite frankly no matter how good of an explanation you give they aint tryna hear it
May 20th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Society is full with double standards, get over it. Jews make fun of each other (Orthodox, Russian Jews, Ethiopian Jews, Moroccoan Jews, etc), Blacks make fun of each other or call each other names, Women say bitch to each other,Irish, Italian, Polish, Russians, it goes on and on. People need to stop acting like Blacks are the only one. Raps shit anyway, destroy and rebuild, they should censor swearwords on radio, get over it. People need to stop bringing up Free Speech, Free Speech entitles you the right NOT TO BE ARRESTED for saying something. Rappers, Russell, Executives, BET, MTV, Radio are all hypocrites, Like Kanye West, “They dont care about Black People”, they just want to re-enforce ignorance and stereotypes and make $$$, cant knock their hustle.
People act like Rappers are so powerful, where are the parents? The same people criticizing Rap about the language and subject matter are writing rave reviews about, Sopranos Girl Next Door Desperate Housewives and dont say shit about the soft core porn that comes on at 12am. People hold rap to a standard that they dont hold other entertainment to, as 50 cent says. But at the same time, Rappers are making the genre boring
May 20th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
I NEVER KNEW IF U HAD THAT MUCH MONEY SOMEONE COULD MAKE U LOOK SOO SMALL. “JUST A NIGGA IN A COUPE”- KAYNE WEST
May 20th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
Russel did his thing without getting upset, he kept his cool, said what he needed to say. Promoted his book and was out…. That boy got class…
-J.R.P.
May 21st, 2007 at 8:23 am
I WAS NOT FEELING THE WHOLE CONVERSATION BETWEEN RUSSELL ANF BILL MAHER. I DON’T AGREE WITH HIS USE OF THE WORD NIGGA - IT WAS PIERCING AND EMBARRASSING. I ALSO DON’T KNOW WHAT THE HELL HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. I UNDERSTAND A LITTLE ABOUT YOGA AND I UNDERSTAND CLEARING OF THE MIND BUT ALL THAT OTHER STUFF - WHAT THE HELL WAS HE TALKING ABOUT??
I AGREE WITH A PREVIOUS POST, RUSSEL HAS LOST A BIT OF CREDIBILITY BUT IT REALLY DOESN’T MATTER CAUSE HE IS STILL ‘DOING HIM’ AND MAKING A BUNCH OF PAPER. CAN’T BE TOO MAD AT HIM.
May 21st, 2007 at 4:02 pm
Oh yeah of course its a double standard…those people don’t have a clue what russell is trying to say,and russell don’t have a clue his got damn self at this point..He was there to talk about a book?!?..But that just shows you how left in the dark people really are about the rap genre and the black communities in general everywhere..they wanna find people to put on blast about the rap industry and thus the rap lyrics..And russell was the scapegoat for Bill Maher and his panel/audience…Rap is not as bad as the people who don’t understand it makes it out to be..Indeed some artist do make fucked up music thats a given and on the same note some people just are fucked up period..there is no getting by that, but for them to put rap lyrics on blast like that is unacceptable…just hop in the time capsule for a second and think…They destroyed the black panther party,killed Dr.King a man who preached peace an non-violence labeled him the #1 threat to america…And Despite all of this the KKK still exist…FURTHERMORE I’LL BE DAMNED IF RAP IS USED AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR AMERICA’S PROBLEMS…Just my thoughts peace
May 21st, 2007 at 5:27 pm
I just finished Russel’s book.Wierd,but overall,A devine read.5% of the book talked about him being a vegan.whutupwitdat??? The Bill Maher show proves one thing.you might have the cash,but u cannot cash in your face.He was worse on Russ then he was to Republicans.Russ,Next time be a more patient listner and make your points edgewise.That interview COST you a few million on your book sales.
May 21st, 2007 at 11:21 pm
It all starts in the homes and parents need to do their job.
May 22nd, 2007 at 12:23 pm
everyone talking about what russell should do, how he made his self look bad, this man not worried about what yall or the next man or women think. I bet you one thing… THAT BOOK THAT HE IS PROMOTING IS GOING TO SELL!!!! THATS THE ONLY REASON HE CAME ON THE SHOW!!!
May 23rd, 2007 at 12:01 pm
I’m curious, how does Russell know how we live? He hasn’t been poor or working class for over 20 years. He isn’t being affected by the gentrification of New York. Russell is at a point where he is trying to expand his political/business career at the expense of his own people. Hip Hop changed a long time ago. The voice of the people was replaced by the voice of the people trying to get theirs! When a black man says that 95% of the Diamond mines in Africa are blood free, that should tell you about that ‘brother’. He’s trying to get his money. He’s going to say what he has to in order to get his loot. In terms of using language like sell out, sambo, coon, that language needs to be brought back. It was the language we used before the man, divided us with Equal Opportunity. It identifies those individuals that are against the whole. Some people don’t like this language because it makes them look at themselves, and they usually don’t like what they see. Black people never condemn black people, especially if they have money. That is part of the problem. When that changes, things will change for us. Hopefully some good Hip Hop will come back to save our people, but right now, it doesn’t look like our people want to save themselves. For all of you who think it is better for the few to be better off than the whole, I eagerly await your replies.
May 27th, 2007 at 10:22 am
I don’t think he took an “L” at all.
Bill Maher was doing what he normally does. He makes fun of situations. That’s why he has a TV show.
I think Russell approached the situation the way he did because, he had a small window to make his point and he might have felt that if he let Bill carry on he (Bill) might waste the time jokes.
They only really laughed when he made the Beverly Hills/ Compton comment.
Can’t please everyone.
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