just cause you do numbers doesnt mean youre hot shit….take a look at jean grae, talib, shit jedi mind tricks! theyre all sick emcees yet they havent done 50 cent numbers
other than that, i cosign this dude…saw him wayyyyyy back in oct of 2005 with immortal technique over at bb kings…his set was short but the dude was incredible (no homo)
im fiendingggggg to get this album man, ive been scouring the internets for the past week tryna find the torrent, if the cd’s hot, then i’ll drop the 15 dollars to buy the cd
TALIB IS BORING NOW. HE MAY HAVE OK LYRICS BUT HE NEEDS TO CHANGE HE CADENCE AND FLOW OR RELEASE A SONG WITH A DIFFERENT FLOW. THAT BACK PACKER SHIT IS BORING. IF TALIB RAPPED OVER A KANYE, DRE, TIM, OR 9TH WONDER BEAT IN ADDITION TO THE PRODUCERS HE ALREADY USES, HE MIGHT SOUND MORE APPEALING. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU AREA BACKPACKER BUT SOMETIMES OU GOTTA PUT CHEESE IN THE SPINACHE TO MAKE THE KIDS LIKE IT. LOOK AT HOW KIRK FRANKLIN DID GOSPEL. I KNOW A 100 DUDES LKE JOELL ORTIZ. HE NEEDS TO GO TO THE GYM, HE’S RIGHT.HE’LL DO BOOTLEG AND DOWNLOAD NUMBERS. AINT NOBODY BUYING THAT STUFF. AND TO WHO EVER SAID NUMBERS DONT MATTER, THEY DO CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY YAW CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT, THAT CASHS MEANS SOMETHING TO THESE ARTIST. AND BECAUSE YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE 600 THOU THAT THINKS NAS IS THE BEST, THERE ARE 1.3 MIL THAT THINK JEEZY IS BETTER AND MORE RELEVANT.
JINCE THOSE ARTIST DONT HAVE THE APPEAL THAT 50 HAS AND THE AUDIENCE WOULD RATHER HEAR WHAT 50 HAS TO SAY RATHER THAN TALIB AND MOS. SOME PEEPS LISTEN TO MUSIC FOR ENJOYMENT AND NOT TO HEAR SOMEONE TRY TO BE INTRICATE. SHIT I DONT WANNA HEAR A RAPPER’S SERMON OR HIM TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING OR POLITICAL PROPOGANDA. I LISTEN TO R&B AND SOUL MUSIC TO FORFILL OTHER NEEDS AND REGGAE TO GET MY FREAK ON WITH THE CHICKS.
smh, this nigga is nice. But theres tons of other rappers out there just like him. Thats why hip hop is dead, real hip hop artists don’t succeed in this game anymore. Instead its cone head faggots like Jeezy who rap about moving that white on every song and are idolized with suburban youth who think Jeezy is better than most real rappers out there.
AND BECAUSE YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE 600 THOU THAT THINKS NAS IS THE BEST, THERE ARE 1.3 MIL THAT THINK JEEZY IS BETTER AND MORE RELEVANT.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice anology, but if I’m right and your pointing out the numbers. Nas actually did 850,000, and because someone bought a Nas album it doesn’t mean that they are exclusive to Nas, same goes for Jeezy, just cause a nigga bought a Jeezy album, it clearly doesn’t mean they think Jeezy is “more relevant, or a better rapper”. Most people bought both albums anyways, downloaded them is more like it though.
Yeah!!!!!! That “too chubby nigga” just gained him a REAL Westcoast FAN!!!! I am SO HAPPY hip-hop is not DEAD!!! I love me a Queens nigga, but when it’s all said and done…..BROOKLYN is the REALIST!!!!
Ortiz is sick. This dude has been nice for a minute. He sounds a little like pun, but not quite there yet. I been feelin this dude for a minute. Who ever is talking down on him is obviously confused or lost.
IF ITS ALL ABOUT LYRICS PUBLISH A BOOK. RYHTM THE BEATS THAT ALL COUNTS TOO GOTTA MAKE A FULL SONG THROUGH AND OUT.
MUSIC IS LIKE A PACKAGED GIFT. YOU HAVE DJ UNK’S GIFT NICELY WRAPPED AND PACKAGED BUT AINT SHIT IN IT EMPTY. THEN YOU HAVE TWALIB’S GIFT VERY NICE BUT WITH NO WRAPPER OR PACKAGING SO THE SURPRISE IS RUINED AND YOU DONT CARE.
XLPE wrote on April 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
JINCE THOSE ARTIST DONT HAVE THE APPEAL THAT 50 HAS AND THE AUDIENCE WOULD RATHER HEAR WHAT 50 HAS TO SAY RATHER THAN TALIB AND MOS. SOME PEEPS LISTEN TO MUSIC FOR ENJOYMENT AND NOT TO HEAR SOMEONE TRY TO BE INTRICATE. SHIT I DONT WANNA HEAR A RAPPER’S SERMON OR HIM TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING OR POLITICAL PROPOGANDA. I LISTEN TO R&B AND SOUL MUSIC TO FORFILL OTHER NEEDS AND REGGAE TO GET MY FREAK ON WITH THE CHICKS.
Really, I dont give a fuck about what you rhyme about, as long as you got real lyrics and not some preschool a,b,c, type of style. Dude got lyrics and flow like a true hip-hop artist from NY should have. It’s a shame you got NYers trying to sound southern. No disrespect to the South, but if you from the East or North, why da fuck you sounding southern? As DMX once said…”DO YOU”
Dude just spoke for every artist thats nasty..standing infront of the label everyday trying to hand out a cd,going to every talent show only to get jerked because the promoter rather have his homeboy win. Since records sales are going down only true talent will shine. Look at all these dudes thats getting radio spins, promotion…..and when they come out they aint selling squat. A new day is coming and its been so long. Cant wait to by his album. I havent heard a hot album through and through since Games first album dropped. That says alot. Oh yeah cant forget about AZ’s album.Awol was crazy.
u cant say dude is wack. if u like hip-hop and u been through the same shit he’s talkin about, then u gotta say he nice. if either of those things dont apply to u, nobody gives a fuck about your opinion anyway. REALTALK and u have to admit, the only reason realtalkny posted this dude is because he has fans asking for him on the site. so give dude props. if he gotta enough fans for realtalk to put him on the site, he nice. he got more fans than yall do
this is my perspective. son, if u cant relate to whatever he says u just havent gone through it. the people who can only relate to his rhymes are the people who are strugglin and its obvious to say that his fans are not going to be looking foward to waste 10-15 dollars on his album. they’ll prolly download or bootleg the shit any day rather than using their precious money that they earned, unless they really appreciate joell’s rhymes. the only reason why these corny ass rappers talking about ‘this is why im hot’ getting all the money is because all the people with money and the people who financially stabilized are buying all the records and they can relate to whatever the rappers are saying. cmon you gotta be real.. every rapper talks about financial stability and how they are caking it in whatever business they’re in. im happy to hear that joel ortiz is speaking through real life experience and sharing his part in this industry. gotta appreciate him for going against the trend that rap music plays nowadays.
“if I don’t like, I don’t like don’t mean i’ma hater”
EVERYBODY got a opinon!
he nice on the mic but I wanna hear more from him.
Didn’t Dr. Dre sign him??? Look at what Dre does to rappers careers—-Eminem,50,Game all were “new faces” all of which are now implanted in our memory…Dr. Dre knows his sh*t, Joel Ortiz might be the sh*t too…
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April 26th, 2007 at 2:05 pm
he just gained a fan
April 26th, 2007 at 2:12 pm
Im Buying That.
April 26th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
stop posting this wack ass dude… hes trash..
April 26th, 2007 at 2:45 pm
I tried to tell ‘em this boy is gonna be a PROBLEM!!!
Two words: Ah FOOL!
April 26th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
sick, dude is what hip hop needs now
April 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
who the F is this dude stop posting him!!! and thats “realtalk” lol
April 26th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
killed it!!!!!
April 26th, 2007 at 3:13 pm
3. Jay wrote on April 26th, 2007 at 2:44 pm
stop posting this wack ass dude… hes trash..
can you spell H-A-T-E-R
April 26th, 2007 at 3:16 pm
. MarkWilly wrote on April 26th, 2007 at 2:51 pm
who the F is this dude stop posting him!!! and thats “realtalk” lol
can you spell H-A-T-E-R
April 26th, 2007 at 3:26 pm
I know I am a hater thank you..but hes wack he has 2 fans and RealTalkNY is obvious one of them..lol
April 26th, 2007 at 3:30 pm
Real Good!
April 26th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
if he does numbers, I’ll jump in front of a bus…
April 26th, 2007 at 4:23 pm
just cause you do numbers doesnt mean youre hot shit….take a look at jean grae, talib, shit jedi mind tricks! theyre all sick emcees yet they havent done 50 cent numbers
other than that, i cosign this dude…saw him wayyyyyy back in oct of 2005 with immortal technique over at bb kings…his set was short but the dude was incredible (no homo)
im fiendingggggg to get this album man, ive been scouring the internets for the past week tryna find the torrent, if the cd’s hot, then i’ll drop the 15 dollars to buy the cd
April 26th, 2007 at 4:46 pm
That nigga killed it.Ill pick that shit over niggas rapping over tracks talking about that bullshit they be dreaming anyday
April 26th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
i think hes pretty ill nd u can actually picture wuht he is sayin
April 26th, 2007 at 5:21 pm
TALIB IS BORING NOW. HE MAY HAVE OK LYRICS BUT HE NEEDS TO CHANGE HE CADENCE AND FLOW OR RELEASE A SONG WITH A DIFFERENT FLOW. THAT BACK PACKER SHIT IS BORING. IF TALIB RAPPED OVER A KANYE, DRE, TIM, OR 9TH WONDER BEAT IN ADDITION TO THE PRODUCERS HE ALREADY USES, HE MIGHT SOUND MORE APPEALING. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU AREA BACKPACKER BUT SOMETIMES OU GOTTA PUT CHEESE IN THE SPINACHE TO MAKE THE KIDS LIKE IT. LOOK AT HOW KIRK FRANKLIN DID GOSPEL. I KNOW A 100 DUDES LKE JOELL ORTIZ. HE NEEDS TO GO TO THE GYM, HE’S RIGHT.HE’LL DO BOOTLEG AND DOWNLOAD NUMBERS. AINT NOBODY BUYING THAT STUFF. AND TO WHO EVER SAID NUMBERS DONT MATTER, THEY DO CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY YAW CAN SAY WHAT YOU WANT, THAT CASHS MEANS SOMETHING TO THESE ARTIST. AND BECAUSE YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE 600 THOU THAT THINKS NAS IS THE BEST, THERE ARE 1.3 MIL THAT THINK JEEZY IS BETTER AND MORE RELEVANT.
April 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
JINCE THOSE ARTIST DONT HAVE THE APPEAL THAT 50 HAS AND THE AUDIENCE WOULD RATHER HEAR WHAT 50 HAS TO SAY RATHER THAN TALIB AND MOS. SOME PEEPS LISTEN TO MUSIC FOR ENJOYMENT AND NOT TO HEAR SOMEONE TRY TO BE INTRICATE. SHIT I DONT WANNA HEAR A RAPPER’S SERMON OR HIM TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING OR POLITICAL PROPOGANDA. I LISTEN TO R&B AND SOUL MUSIC TO FORFILL OTHER NEEDS AND REGGAE TO GET MY FREAK ON WITH THE CHICKS.
April 26th, 2007 at 5:57 pm
XLPE I agree with you 100% it’s all about appealing to the world not just your crew and hood.
April 26th, 2007 at 6:53 pm
J.O IS DAT NIGGA!
April 26th, 2007 at 6:57 pm
the niggas aight.
anybody to say anything other is hating forreal.
prolly didnt even listen to him
April 26th, 2007 at 7:04 pm
williamsburg stand up !!!!!!!!!!!! das all i got to sai
April 26th, 2007 at 7:05 pm
willlaimsburggggggggggggggggggg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 26th, 2007 at 7:31 pm
smh, this nigga is nice. But theres tons of other rappers out there just like him. Thats why hip hop is dead, real hip hop artists don’t succeed in this game anymore. Instead its cone head faggots like Jeezy who rap about moving that white on every song and are idolized with suburban youth who think Jeezy is better than most real rappers out there.
April 26th, 2007 at 7:35 pm
AND BECAUSE YOU MAY BE ONE OF THE 600 THOU THAT THINKS NAS IS THE BEST, THERE ARE 1.3 MIL THAT THINK JEEZY IS BETTER AND MORE RELEVANT.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice anology, but if I’m right and your pointing out the numbers. Nas actually did 850,000, and because someone bought a Nas album it doesn’t mean that they are exclusive to Nas, same goes for Jeezy, just cause a nigga bought a Jeezy album, it clearly doesn’t mean they think Jeezy is “more relevant, or a better rapper”. Most people bought both albums anyways, downloaded them is more like it though.
April 26th, 2007 at 8:15 pm
Yeah!!!!!! That “too chubby nigga” just gained him a REAL Westcoast FAN!!!! I am SO HAPPY hip-hop is not DEAD!!! I love me a Queens nigga, but when it’s all said and done…..BROOKLYN is the REALIST!!!!
Much love to the east from the west
April 26th, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Mark Willi…..Kill Ya Self!!!! Just end the ignorance right NOW and I hope you don’t have any kids or else we are DOOMED!!!!
April 26th, 2007 at 9:53 pm
Joell Ortiz, thats whats up! Shit is tight homie. Keep doing that shit!
April 26th, 2007 at 10:57 pm
realtalk has to stop posting this dude he is trash..
dude is wack…. lil romeo spit betta than him
April 27th, 2007 at 1:36 am
Ortiz is sick. This dude has been nice for a minute. He sounds a little like pun, but not quite there yet. I been feelin this dude for a minute. Who ever is talking down on him is obviously confused or lost.
April 27th, 2007 at 2:35 am
hands down this dude is the hardest and hungriest rapper out better then papoose saigon jae mills maino uncle murder gravy and etc etc
April 27th, 2007 at 3:14 am
IF ITS ALL ABOUT LYRICS PUBLISH A BOOK. RYHTM THE BEATS THAT ALL COUNTS TOO GOTTA MAKE A FULL SONG THROUGH AND OUT.
MUSIC IS LIKE A PACKAGED GIFT. YOU HAVE DJ UNK’S GIFT NICELY WRAPPED AND PACKAGED BUT AINT SHIT IN IT EMPTY. THEN YOU HAVE TWALIB’S GIFT VERY NICE BUT WITH NO WRAPPER OR PACKAGING SO THE SURPRISE IS RUINED AND YOU DONT CARE.
XLPE wrote on April 26th, 2007 at 5:27 pm
JINCE THOSE ARTIST DONT HAVE THE APPEAL THAT 50 HAS AND THE AUDIENCE WOULD RATHER HEAR WHAT 50 HAS TO SAY RATHER THAN TALIB AND MOS. SOME PEEPS LISTEN TO MUSIC FOR ENJOYMENT AND NOT TO HEAR SOMEONE TRY TO BE INTRICATE. SHIT I DONT WANNA HEAR A RAPPER’S SERMON OR HIM TELLING ME WHAT I SHOULD BE DOING OR POLITICAL PROPOGANDA. I LISTEN TO R&B AND SOUL MUSIC TO FORFILL OTHER NEEDS AND REGGAE TO GET MY FREAK ON WITH THE CHICKS.
April 27th, 2007 at 5:16 am
and we wonder why hip hop is dead.
defintly not because of the rappers.
its because of the FANS.
April 27th, 2007 at 7:03 am
Really, I dont give a fuck about what you rhyme about, as long as you got real lyrics and not some preschool a,b,c, type of style. Dude got lyrics and flow like a true hip-hop artist from NY should have. It’s a shame you got NYers trying to sound southern. No disrespect to the South, but if you from the East or North, why da fuck you sounding southern? As DMX once said…”DO YOU”
Big Ups to J.O., he’s really bringing NY back.
REAL TALK…
April 27th, 2007 at 9:46 am
Dude just spoke for every artist thats nasty..standing infront of the label everyday trying to hand out a cd,going to every talent show only to get jerked because the promoter rather have his homeboy win. Since records sales are going down only true talent will shine. Look at all these dudes thats getting radio spins, promotion…..and when they come out they aint selling squat. A new day is coming and its been so long. Cant wait to by his album. I havent heard a hot album through and through since Games first album dropped. That says alot. Oh yeah cant forget about AZ’s album.Awol was crazy.
April 27th, 2007 at 10:57 am
ok, ok, dudes hot!
April 27th, 2007 at 3:29 pm
u cant say dude is wack. if u like hip-hop and u been through the same shit he’s talkin about, then u gotta say he nice. if either of those things dont apply to u, nobody gives a fuck about your opinion anyway. REALTALK and u have to admit, the only reason realtalkny posted this dude is because he has fans asking for him on the site. so give dude props. if he gotta enough fans for realtalk to put him on the site, he nice. he got more fans than yall do
April 28th, 2007 at 12:03 am
hes good
April 28th, 2007 at 4:08 pm
this is my perspective. son, if u cant relate to whatever he says u just havent gone through it. the people who can only relate to his rhymes are the people who are strugglin and its obvious to say that his fans are not going to be looking foward to waste 10-15 dollars on his album. they’ll prolly download or bootleg the shit any day rather than using their precious money that they earned, unless they really appreciate joell’s rhymes. the only reason why these corny ass rappers talking about ‘this is why im hot’ getting all the money is because all the people with money and the people who financially stabilized are buying all the records and they can relate to whatever the rappers are saying. cmon you gotta be real.. every rapper talks about financial stability and how they are caking it in whatever business they’re in. im happy to hear that joel ortiz is speaking through real life experience and sharing his part in this industry. gotta appreciate him for going against the trend that rap music plays nowadays.
April 28th, 2007 at 9:32 pm
“if I don’t like, I don’t like don’t mean i’ma hater”
EVERYBODY got a opinon!
he nice on the mic but I wanna hear more from him.
Didn’t Dr. Dre sign him??? Look at what Dre does to rappers careers—-Eminem,50,Game all were “new faces” all of which are now implanted in our memory…Dr. Dre knows his sh*t, Joel Ortiz might be the sh*t too…